Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-14 Thread Rob Lindauer

ClintonHammond wrote:

I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!

How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??



I agree with the comments by others to the effect that (1) make sure 
SeaMonkey is completely shut down before editing, (2) keep a backup in 
case you mess things up, and (3) use a plain text / programmer editor.


I edit my bookmarks files frequently (mainly to keep the versions from 
various machines in synch).  I suppose I could use a synch service of 
some sort, but I've been editing for a decade and don't see a reason to 
stop now.


I usually just copy/paste uncategorized items from/to the bottom of my 
bookmarks file, and then use the bookmark manager to move the bookmarks 
into the right categories.  That way I don't need to worry about (nor 
mess up) categories and category delimiters.


I could misremember, but I think the system generated file warning has 
been at the top of many Mozilla / Firefox / SeaMonkey files for a long 
time - maybe including the bookmark file.


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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/10/2009 5:04 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Martin Freitag:
 David E. Ross schrieb:
 On 11/10/2009 8:27 AM, ClintonHammond wrote:
 
 How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??
 It can be edited while SeaMonkey is toally terminated.  I strongly
 suggest using Wordpad and not Notepad.  The file contains some control
 characters that might cause Notepad to corrupt the file. 
 What? I never heared of that. HTML is plain text, what control
 characters should there be?
 
 I'm also wondering. *g*
 
 Hartmut

It seems that I remember the contents of the file collapsed when I
deleted an entire bookmark using Notepad.  That is, the file became one
long line of text.  This was so long ago (I was still using Netscape
4.x, before there was a Mozilla Foundation), that I can't remember
exactly what the problem was.  I do know that whatever the problem, it
did not happen with Wordpad.  Perhaps, something has changed since long
ago.

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/11/2009 8:23 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/10/2009 5:04 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Martin Freitag:
 David E. Ross schrieb:
 On 11/10/2009 8:27 AM, ClintonHammond wrote:
 How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??
 It can be edited while SeaMonkey is toally terminated.  I strongly
 suggest using Wordpad and not Notepad.  The file contains some control
 characters that might cause Notepad to corrupt the file. 
 What? I never heared of that. HTML is plain text, what control
 characters should there be?
 I'm also wondering. *g*

 Hartmut
 
 It seems that I remember the contents of the file collapsed when I
 deleted an entire bookmark using Notepad.  That is, the file became one
 long line of text.  This was so long ago (I was still using Netscape
 4.x, before there was a Mozilla Foundation), that I can't remember
 exactly what the problem was.  I do know that whatever the problem, it
 did not happen with Wordpad.  Perhaps, something has changed since long
 ago.
 

Oh, I was likely using Windows 95.  Notepad on Windows XP is different.

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-11 Thread Jens Hatlak

David E. Ross wrote:

The major deficiency in Bookmark Manager for editing is that a search
for a particular bookmark results in a new window.  A number of editing
operations are disabled in that window.  The search is useless for
editing in the main Bookmark Manager window since it does not indicate
where in 1,200 bookmarks the found entry is located.  These are very old
bug reports.


The disabling of editing features in search mode was fixed in SM 2. 
Found entries can be located through the context menu if you have 
xSidebar installed.


HTH

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-11 Thread Rufus

ClintonHammond wrote:

I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!

How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??



Do a Save As as opposed to a Save.  Then you will have a backup in 
case you mess something up and need to revert - you can simply swap the 
files in and out of your Profile.


I make copies of and edit my Bookmarks file all the time so I can e-mail 
collections of Bookmarks to people on occasion.  All they need do is 
open my edited file in a browser and click away.


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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-11 Thread Rufus

ClintonHammond wrote:

On Nov 10, 11:49 am, seree...@netscape.net wrote:

I'm not sure I understand properly what you're trying to do, but in the
Bookmark Manager, I'd go in File - New Bookmark and fill in the fields
with CTRL + C and CTRL + V. And to change the content of an existing
bookmark, there is the Properties button. Again, VTRL + C and CTRL + V
would be useful.

S.


Ya, see I don't want to edit ONE bookmark at a time... I want to add
the contents of a previous bookmarks file, and the profile importer is
worse than useless... \

Maybe I'll go back to Maxthon...



Open the file in SM Composer...but as suggested, make a copy and work 
from that.


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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-11 Thread Rufus

Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 11/10/2009 8:41 AM, ClintonHammond wrote:

On Nov 10, 11:37 am, seree...@netscape.net wrote:



I'd use Bookmarks -  Manage Bookmarks (or CTRL + B).



And if you wanted to copy/paste things INTO the bookmarks file??


The file is managed by SeaMonkey. If you really want to edit it by
hand, just shut down SeaMonkey and go for it.

You should back it up first, just in case you make a mistake while
editing.

Edit using an ASCII Editor such as word pad for PC or Text Wrangler for 
Mac and choose save not _Save As_ .




Composer works just fine for this purpose.

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-11 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/10/2009 8:27 AM, ClintonHammond wrote:

I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!

How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??



It can be edited while SeaMonkey is toally terminated.  I strongly
suggest using Wordpad and not Notepad.  The file contains some control
characters that might cause Notepad to corrupt the file.  I would also
strongly recommend copying the file to create a backup.

However, I have almost always edited the file using the Bookmark
Manager.  If you kept SeaMonkey 1.1.x and installed SeaMonkey 2 AND ITS
PROFILE in directories separate from SeaMonkey 1.1.x, you should be able
to open the Bookmark Manager for both and copy from one to the other.

The only times I have used Wordpad to edit the file was when I wanted to
change the domain names in a large number of bookmarks.  Those bookmarks
all pointed to pages in the mirror of a very large archive.  When that
mirror began to have problems, I switched to using a different mirror.
That required making the same change to about 250 bookmarks, which was
quite easy with Wordpad.

The major deficiency in Bookmark Manager for editing is that a search
for a particular bookmark results in a new window.  A number of editing
operations are disabled in that window.  The search is useless for
editing in the main Bookmark Manager window since it does not indicate
where in 1,200 bookmarks the found entry is located.  These are very old
bug reports.



I always make a copy, then edit that using Composer.

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Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread ClintonHammond
I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!

How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread sereenie

ClintonHammond wrote:


How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??




I'd use Bookmarks - Manage Bookmarks (or CTRL + B).

S.
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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread ClintonHammond
On Nov 10, 11:37 am, seree...@netscape.net wrote:


 I'd use Bookmarks - Manage Bookmarks (or CTRL + B).


And if you wanted to copy/paste things INTO the bookmarks file??
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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread sereenie

ClintonHammond wrote:




And if you wanted to copy/paste things INTO the bookmarks file??


I'm not sure I understand properly what you're trying to do, but in the 
Bookmark Manager, I'd go in File - New Bookmark and fill in the fields 
with CTRL + C and CTRL + V. And to change the content of an existing 
bookmark, there is the Properties button. Again, VTRL + C and CTRL + V 
would be useful.


S.
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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread Arne

ClintonHammond wrote:

I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!

How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??


Well, if you know what you do I guess it's okay to edit the file. But 
if you mess it up, you have been warned. ;)

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread ClintonHammond
On Nov 10, 11:49 am, seree...@netscape.net wrote:

 I'm not sure I understand properly what you're trying to do, but in the
 Bookmark Manager, I'd go in File - New Bookmark and fill in the fields
 with CTRL + C and CTRL + V. And to change the content of an existing
 bookmark, there is the Properties button. Again, VTRL + C and CTRL + V
 would be useful.

 S.

Ya, see I don't want to edit ONE bookmark at a time... I want to add
the contents of a previous bookmarks file, and the profile importer is
worse than useless... \

Maybe I'll go back to Maxthon...

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread ClintonHammond
On Nov 10, 12:16 pm, S. Beaulieu seree...@netscape.net wrote:

 Why would you use the import manager for that? In the Bookmark Manager,
 go in Tools - Import...
 S.

The first 9 times I tried that, it didn't work Now it imported
them, but it refuses to read my personal toolbar folder

I thought Seamonkey 2 was supposed to be an upgrade... Or is it an
upgrade like Windows ME was an upgrade..

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

ClintonHammond wrote:

I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!


Apparently you don't realize that that warning has been at the top of 
the bookmarks.html file since Netscape days - hence, the first line: 
NETSCAPE-Bookmark-file-1. It's nothing new, and hardly nonsense.


 How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??

To edit the file, make sure _all_ of SeaMonkey is shut down, and then 
edit it with a plain text editor. As others have advised, make a copy of 
it before you start in case you need to restore it.  -JW

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread ClintonHammond
On Nov 10, 3:26 pm, J. Weaver Jr. j...@pospamsucksbox.com wrote:

 To edit the file, make sure _all_ of SeaMonkey is shut down, and then
 edit it with a plain text editor. As others have advised, make a copy of
 it before you start in case you need to restore it.  -JW

Aaaahh... Perhaps opening it in Open Office was not the best plan
I never even think of notepad any longer (What is this, the middle
ages?)
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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/10/2009 8:27 AM, ClintonHammond wrote:
 I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
 did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
 in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
 over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!
 
 How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??
 

It can be edited while SeaMonkey is toally terminated.  I strongly
suggest using Wordpad and not Notepad.  The file contains some control
characters that might cause Notepad to corrupt the file.  I would also
strongly recommend copying the file to create a backup.

However, I have almost always edited the file using the Bookmark
Manager.  If you kept SeaMonkey 1.1.x and installed SeaMonkey 2 AND ITS
PROFILE in directories separate from SeaMonkey 1.1.x, you should be able
to open the Bookmark Manager for both and copy from one to the other.

The only times I have used Wordpad to edit the file was when I wanted to
change the domain names in a large number of bookmarks.  Those bookmarks
all pointed to pages in the mirror of a very large archive.  When that
mirror began to have problems, I switched to using a different mirror.
That required making the same change to about 250 bookmarks, which was
quite easy with Wordpad.

The major deficiency in Bookmark Manager for editing is that a search
for a particular bookmark results in a new window.  A number of editing
operations are disabled in that window.  The search is useless for
editing in the main Bookmark Manager window since it does not indicate
where in 1,200 bookmarks the found entry is located.  These are very old
bug reports.

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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-10 Thread Martin Freitag
David E. Ross schrieb:
 On 11/10/2009 8:27 AM, ClintonHammond wrote:
 I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
 did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
 in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
 over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!

 How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??

 
 It can be edited while SeaMonkey is toally terminated.  I strongly
 suggest using Wordpad and not Notepad.  The file contains some control
 characters that might cause Notepad to corrupt the file. 

What? I never heared of that. HTML is plain text, what control
characters should there be?

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