Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 05/02/2021 06:39, Daniel wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 4/2/21 11:57 pm:
...>


Indeed. In the tests where I was able to enable and disable 
i.ebayimg.com images in eBay emails, [Preferences>Privacy & Security>Images] 
remained at "Load all images".



O.K., just looking a bit further, how about ...

Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Cookies.

Might you have selected "Allow cookies for the originating website only 
(no third-party cookies)" or "Block cookies" rather than either of the 
other two??


And in the same tests, "Allow cookies for the originating website ..." 
and "Accept for current session" were set.


I don't think cookies are the problem. Nor is it likely that 
i.ebayimg.com is being blocked by Mozilla's attack/phishing blocklists.


As previously suggested, OP needs to test with a new profile, for which 
instructions ought to be all over the Web but this 
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_manager> is the best SM-oriented page 
I could see.


/df

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[Daniel]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 4/2/21 11:57 pm:

On 04/02/2021 08:30, Daniel wrote:
 >...>
 >
 > Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Images
 >
 > Might not help, but you never know!!

Indeed. In the tests where I was able to enable and disable 
i.ebayimg.com images in eBay emails, this setting remained at "Load all 
images".


/df


O.K., just looking a bit further, how about ...

Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Cookies.

Might you have selected "Allow cookies for the originating website only 
(no third-party cookies)" or "Block cookies" rather than either of the 
other two??

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1 Build identifier: 20201115194905


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210118013008

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[Paul in Houston, TX]

EE wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Note that that make break other sites, so you can make it specific
to ebay if you want to:
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

Etc.


Why not make the version in rv match the Firefox version?  That is the 
way the default works anyhow.  Also, since it is an override, why not 
remove the SeaMonkey version from end of the user-agent?


Agreed.  My own overrides are like you mentioned.
What I was thinking was to have the OP make various changes to see if 
one worked.  In retrospect, I think it more likely that it may be some 
other setting on his comp.

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[EE]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Note that that make break other sites, so you can make it specific
to ebay if you want to:
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

Etc.


Why not make the version in rv match the Firefox version?  That is the 
way the default works anyhow.  Also, since it is an override, why not 
remove the SeaMonkey version from end of the user-agent?


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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 04/02/2021 08:30, Daniel wrote:
>...>
>
> Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Images
>
> Might not help, but you never know!!

Indeed. In the tests where I was able to enable and disable 
i.ebayimg.com images in eBay emails, this setting remained at "Load all 
images".


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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[Daniel]

Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote on 3/2/21 9:41 pm:

Paul in Houston, TX schrieb:


This is your current UA string:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.6


I suggest changing your UA until you find one that works.
Try:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:80.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/88.0


Note that that make break other sites, so you can make it specific
to ebay if you want to:
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

Etc.


Thanks Paul, but that didn't work.
In 20 years I had not to go such deep into SeaMonkey configuration!
I changed the entries for "useragent" in about:config as follows:
devtools.inspector.showUserAgentStyles;    false
dom.push.userAgentID;
general.useragent.compatMode.firefox;    false
general.useragent.compatMode.strict-firefox;    false
general.useragent.locale;    de
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com;    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.de;    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;    true
mailnews.headers.showUserAgent;    false
services.sync.prefs.sync.mailnews.headers.showUserAgent;    true





What is so special in ebay that prevents the display in the emails ?


If I can through my tuppence-worth into the ring 

A while ago, I was trying to buy something from amazon.ca (sure that was 
in the browser screen rather than in an e-mail, but ..!!) but 
couldn't get to the checkout because there was no Cash-register 
icon-thingee, 'cause I had set my SeaMonkey set to not display images 
from "third-party" web-sites and amazon.ca used the "check-out" icon 
from amazon.com, i.e. a "third-party" web-site.


Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Images

Might not help, but you never know!!
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SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1 Build identifier: 20201115194905


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210118013008

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX schrieb:


This is your current UA string:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.6


I suggest changing your UA until you find one that works.
Try:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:80.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/88.0


Note that that make break other sites, so you can make it specific
to ebay if you want to:
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

Etc.


Thanks Paul, but that didn't work.
In 20 years I had not to go such deep into SeaMonkey configuration!
I changed the entries for "useragent" in about:config as follows:
devtools.inspector.showUserAgentStyles;    false
dom.push.userAgentID;
general.useragent.compatMode.firefox;    false
general.useragent.compatMode.strict-firefox;    false
general.useragent.locale;    de
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com;    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.de;    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;    true
mailnews.headers.showUserAgent;    false
services.sync.prefs.sync.mailnews.headers.showUserAgent;    true

There was only one graphic which was successfully displayed. See the 
part of the HTML source here:


href=3D"https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11001.m43.l2648/7?euid=3Dc7cc04c=
68c1a4609880cfe8368d91f74=3D43205459488=3D11001=3D2021020222= 

4348=3D-1~1=3Dosgood=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F= 

254849557957=3Dbu=3Dbu,ch=3Dch,segname=3Dsegname,crd=3Dcrd,url=3Dlo= 

c,osub=3Dosub" aria-label=3D"Artikel ansehen" style=3D"border: none; 
text-d=
ecoration: none;">style=3D"max-=
height: 300px !important; border-style: none; color: #0654BA; font-size: 
16=
px; line-height: 18px; font-weight: 200; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, 
san=
s-serif;" 
src=3D"https://svcs.ebay.com/imageser/v1/image/render?item-id=3D2=
54849557957_USER_ID=3D43205459488=3D43205459488= 

id=3D11001_SITE_ID=3D77=3D11001_DT=3D202102021043= 

48=3D0=3D0=3D0529d582-8f21-4= 

7ae-8afd-a2ba220e9ee2=3D20210202104348=3D1=3D= 

77=3D7722b8c2-c37d-4d08-a21d-c928bbb730af=3D1168=3D0= 


" alt=3D"Digitalkamera HP PhotoSmart 850 4.1 MP 8 fach optischer Zoom
Aktuelles Gebot: EUR 6,17
Ihr H=C3=B6chstgebot: EUR 5,67
Endet 05. Feb. 2021 21:26 MEZ"/>


Extract from a display that didn't work:
href=3D"https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11021.m43.l1120/7?euid=3Da92cb43=
b35284ad08e57af75d4286bd7=3D43205459488=3DRU=3D11021=3D20= 

210203030743=3D-1~1=3Dosgood=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%= 

2Fitm%2F224337180166=3Dbu=3Dbu,ut=3Dut,ch=3Dch,segname=3Dsegname,cr= 


d=3Dcrd,url=3Dloc,osub=3Dosub" aria-hidden=3D"true" tabindex=3D"-1" style=
=3D"color: initial; display: block;">
max-widt=
h: 100%; max-height: 100%; display: block;" 
src=3D"https://i.ebayimg.com/im=
ages/g/XzEAAOSwnQtgECXn/s-l300/p.jpg" alt=3D"Voigtl=C3=A4nder 
Gegenlichtble=

nde 32 mm 31=E2=80=A6" />


What is so special in ebay that prevents the display in the emails ?


I agree with Dirk.
Could an anti-virus shield be blocking the images?
Try turning them off for testing if you use them.
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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 03/02/2021 10:41, Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote:

...>
What is so special in ebay that prevents the display in the emails ?


Whatever's happening isn't an eBay problem, as I tested the procedure 
that I posted earlier using a similar email from eBay. Fortunately the 
sort of JS snafu that occurs with web pages isn't involved in email 
display and so UA spoofing was always a long shot.


As you can see from the message source i.ebayimg.com is the image host 
for the missing item pictures, such as the lens hood/gegenlichtblende in 
your example.


I really think that there is some issue with your display permissions. 
If it can't be fixed by manipulating the UI as I described, some obscure 
about:config setting may be the problem. If so, or perhaps anyway, you 
need to test this with a clean profile.


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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

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Paul in Houston, TX schrieb:
 
This is your current UA string:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6

I suggest changing your UA until you find one that works.
Try:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:80.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/88.0

Note that that make break other sites, so you can make it specific
to ebay if you want to:
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2
Etc.


Thanks Paul, but that didn't work.
In 20 years I had not to go such deep into SeaMonkey configuration!
I changed the entries for "useragent" in about:config as follows:
devtools.inspector.showUserAgentStyles; false
dom.push.userAgentID;
general.useragent.compatMode.firefox;   false
general.useragent.compatMode.strict-firefox;false
general.useragent.locale;   de
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.de; Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;  true
mailnews.headers.showUserAgent; false
services.sync.prefs.sync.mailnews.headers.showUserAgent;true

There was only one graphic which was successfully displayed. See the part of 
the HTML source here:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11001.m43.l2648/7?euid=3Dc7cc04c=
68c1a4609880cfe8368d91f74=3D43205459488=3D11001=3D2021020222=
4348=3D-1~1=3Dosgood=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F=
254849557957=3Dbu=3Dbu,ch=3Dch,segname=3Dsegname,crd=3Dcrd,url=3Dlo=
c,osub=3Dosub" aria-label=3D"Artikel ansehen" style=3D"border: none; text-d=
ecoration: none;">https://svcs.ebay.com/imageser/v1/image/render?item-id=3D2=
54849557957_USER_ID=3D43205459488=3D43205459488=
id=3D11001_SITE_ID=3D77=3D11001_DT=3D202102021043=
48=3D0=3D0=3D0529d582-8f21-4=
7ae-8afd-a2ba220e9ee2=3D20210202104348=3D1=3D=
77=3D7722b8c2-c37d-4d08-a21d-c928bbb730af=3D1168=3D0=
" alt=3D"Digitalkamera HP PhotoSmart 850 4.1 MP 8 fach optischer Zoom
Aktuelles Gebot: EUR 6,17
Ihr H=C3=B6chstgebot: EUR 5,67
Endet 05. Feb. 2021 21:26 MEZ"/>


Extract from a display that didn't work:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11021.m43.l1120/7?euid=3Da92cb43=
b35284ad08e57af75d4286bd7=3D43205459488=3DRU=3D11021=3D20=
210203030743=3D-1~1=3Dosgood=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%=
2Fitm%2F224337180166=3Dbu=3Dbu,ut=3Dut,ch=3Dch,segname=3Dsegname,cr=
d=3Dcrd,url=3Dloc,osub=3Dosub" aria-hidden=3D"true" tabindex=3D"-1" style=
=3D"color: initial; display: block;">
https://i.ebayimg.com/im=
ages/g/XzEAAOSwnQtgECXn/s-l300/p.jpg" alt=3D"Voigtl=C3=A4nder Gegenlichtble=
nde 32 mm 31=E2=80=A6" />


What is so special in ebay that prevents the display in the emails ?

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

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Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote:

Sorry my last post was nonsense.
Thanks for your hints but it doesn't work..
I tried it and removed the "Block images" entry in the display options.
Also I added the entries for allowing loading images in the permissions 
section of the ebay data sets for ebay.de, ebay.com etc.


The  display content - the frame is still visible - is only missing on 
ebay pages !

On other pages there is no problem.
What does ebay do that blocks the graphics ?
Thanks for help
Jochen


This is your current UA string:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.6


I suggest changing your UA until you find one that works.
Try:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:80.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/88.0


Note that that make break other sites, so you can make it specific
to ebay if you want to:
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

Etc.

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

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Sorry my last post was nonsense.
Thanks for your hints but it doesn't work..
I tried it and removed the "Block images" entry in the display options.
Also I added the entries for allowing loading images in the permissions section 
of the ebay data sets for ebay.de, ebay.com etc.

The  display content - the frame is still visible - is only missing on ebay 
pages !
On other pages there is no problem.
What does ebay do that blocks the graphics ?
Thanks for help
Jochen

Dr.J.Elz-Fianda schrieb:

Thanks, Dirk.
The problem was that the display of the folder list on the left was switched 
off after the updsdate.
I could easily switch it on again.
Problem solved.
Jochen

Dirk Fieldhouse schrieb:

On 02/02/2021 01:19, Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote:

yesterday I upgraded from V2.53.5.1 to 2.53.6.
After that i get no display of article pictures from ebay.
 From other senders I receive still the pictures to display in-line as I have 
chosen.
In the HTML source code for such an image i can find, e.g.:
https://i.ebayimg.com/im=
ages/g/BgMAAOSw4QhgDUDt/s-l300/p.jpg" alt=3D"Praktica MTL5 Camera SLR Penta=
con 35m=E2=80=A6" />
Is this an error otherwise known ?
Is there a hidden option in SeaMonkey to switch this display on or off?


You probably have 'Block images and other content from remote sources'set in 
Preferences>Mail & Newsgroups>Message Display.

When this setting blocks content in HTML mail, you should see a warning ribbon 'To protect your privacy ...' above the message headers containing an 'Options' button. In the options that the button offers, select to 'Allow remote content from 
https://i.ebayimg.com'.


If you don't see this, or just to verify the setting, open Tools>Data Manager and select 'Permissions only' in the pull-down at the top left. You should see an entry for Domain 'ebayimg.com' in the domain list; if you select this, it should show 
'https://i.ebayimg.com Load Images' with Allow selected and 'Use Default' unchecked. Set these values if not (eg, you may have Block selected).


You can add this permission manually if necessary. Open Tools>Data Manager, select the Permissions tab, Add at the bottom, then enter 'https://i.ebayimg.com' (without the quotes) in the field 'Enter a host name', bottom right, with type 'Load Images' 
and 'Add'; then uncheck 'Use Default' under the line that appears and select 'Allow' (even though it's already selected). ebayimg.com should bein the Domain list on the left.


Your UI may vary depending on language and any installed theme.

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are nc longer displayed

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Thanks, Dirk.
The problem was that the display of the folder list on the left was switched 
off after the updsdate.
I could easily switch it on again.
Problem solved.
Jochen

Dirk Fieldhouse schrieb:

On 02/02/2021 01:19, Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote:

yesterday I upgraded from V2.53.5.1 to 2.53.6.
After that i get no display of article pictures from ebay.
 From other senders I receive still the pictures to display in-line as I have 
chosen.
In the HTML source code for such an image i can find, e.g.:
https://i.ebayimg.com/im=
ages/g/BgMAAOSw4QhgDUDt/s-l300/p.jpg" alt=3D"Praktica MTL5 Camera SLR Penta=
con 35m=E2=80=A6" />
Is this an error otherwise known ?
Is there a hidden option in SeaMonkey to switch this display on or off?


You probably have 'Block images and other content from remote sources' set in 
Preferences>Mail & Newsgroups>Message Display.

When this setting blocks content in HTML mail, you should see a warning ribbon 'To protect your privacy ...' above the message headers containing an 'Options' button. In the options that the button offers, select to 'Allow remote content from 
https://i.ebayimg.com'.


If you don't see this, or just to verify the setting, open Tools>Data Manager and select 'Permissions only' in the pull-down at the top left. You should see an entry for Domain 'ebayimg.com' in the domain list; if you select this, it should show 
'https://i.ebayimg.com Load Images' with Allow selected and 'Use Default' unchecked. Set these values if not (eg, you may have Block selected).


You can add this permission manually if necessary. Open Tools>Data Manager, select the Permissions tab, Add at the bottom, then enter 'https://i.ebayimg.com' (without the quotes) in the field 'Enter a host name', bottom right, with type 'Load Images' and 
'Add'; then uncheck 'Use Default' under the line that appears and select 'Allow' (even though it's already selected). ebayimg.com should be in the Domain list on the left.


Your UI may vary depending on language and any installed theme.

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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are nc longer displayed

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On 02/02/2021 01:19, Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote:

yesterday I upgraded from V2.53.5.1 to 2.53.6.
After that i get no display of article pictures from ebay.
 From other senders I receive still the pictures to display in-line as I 
have chosen.

In the HTML source code for such an image i can find, e.g.:
max-widt=
h: 100%; max-height: 100%; display: block;" 
src=3D"https://i.ebayimg.com/im=
ages/g/BgMAAOSw4QhgDUDt/s-l300/p.jpg" alt=3D"Praktica MTL5 Camera SLR 
Penta=

con 35m=E2=80=A6" />
Is this an error otherwise known ?
Is there a hidden option in SeaMonkey to switch this display on or off?


You probably have 'Block images and other content from remote sources' 
set in Preferences>Mail & Newsgroups>Message Display.


When this setting blocks content in HTML mail, you should see a warning 
ribbon 'To protect your privacy ...' above the message headers 
containing an 'Options' button. In the options that the button offers, 
select to 'Allow remote content from https://i.ebayimg.com'.


If you don't see this, or just to verify the setting, open Tools>Data 
Manager and select 'Permissions only' in the pull-down at the top left. 
You should see an entry for Domain 'ebayimg.com' in the domain list; if 
you select this, it should show 'https://i.ebayimg.com Load Images' with 
Allow selected and 'Use Default' unchecked. Set these values if not (eg, 
you may have Block selected).


You can add this permission manually if necessary. Open Tools>Data 
Manager, select the Permissions tab, Add at the bottom, then enter 
'https://i.ebayimg.com' (without the quotes) in the field 'Enter a host 
name', bottom right, with type 'Load Images' and 'Add'; then uncheck 
'Use Default' under the line that appears and select 'Allow' (even 
though it's already selected). ebayimg.com should be in the Domain list 
on the left.


Your UI may vary depending on language and any installed theme.

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Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are nc longer displayed

[Dr.J.Elz-Fianda via support-seamonkey]

Hello experts,
yesterday I upgraded from V2.53.5.1 to 2.53.6.
After that i get no display of article pictures from ebay.
From other senders I receive still the pictures to display in-line as I have 
chosen.
In the HTML source code for such an image i can find, e.g.:
https://i.ebayimg.com/im=
ages/g/BgMAAOSw4QhgDUDt/s-l300/p.jpg" alt=3D"Praktica MTL5 Camera SLR Penta=
con 35m=E2=80=A6" />
Is this an error otherwise known ?
Is there a hidden option in SeaMonkey to switch this display on or off?

thanks for help

Jochen.
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Re: Images don't display on Costco emails

[Yamo']

Hi,

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 27/11/2020 15:00:
> I think the main issue with remote images in emails is that they can 
> include unique image URLs in each email they send, even if the emails 
> otherwise appear identical (e.g. advertising offers), so they know that 
> you've opened the copy they sent to you.  So it is a good idea to block 
> them by default, so that you don't reveal anything just by opening the 
> email (spammers can use the same trick to work out which addresses are 
> actually being read and opened, to target with more spam).  But the same 
> applies to the link to open the email in the browser - it will probably 
> include a unique ID, so they know it was opened from the email they sent 
> to you, as opposed to anyone else.


It's why it's often say to never open spam-mail to avoid this.

Sometime I open them (without load any remote content) to see the
progression of spammers.

If you want to check if it spam or not look at the source of the mail
 (Ctrl u) and copy an URL like this  to a text-application like notepad,
mousepad ... :
 http://someurl.example/blahbfbqsldbqshdkdjzecjg2654135416
Remove all strings after / and if it spam often there's nothing on :
http://someurl.example/
http or https. In this case https is not a protection.

The "blahbfbqsldbqshdkdjzecjg2654135416" is a key to match your mail
adress and the program say  "yes sold this real mail send it more and
more spam!" and after it load an image or other remote content (CSS, ...).

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Re: Images don't display on Costco emails

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

William Greenwood wrote:

What setting do I need to adjust?


EE wrote:
Have you examined Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message Display?  Is 
"Block images and other content from remote sources" checked?


Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
That's a deliberate policy in my case, but those few mails where I 
actually want to look at the pretty pictures normally come with a link: 
"Open in Browser" or "View this email in your browser".


That's dependent on the sender of the email including such a link, and 
hosting a copy of the email as a web page on their server.  Even when 
they do include such a link, they may not host the copy indefinitely - 
so it might stop working some time in future.


I think the main issue with remote images in emails is that they can 
include unique image URLs in each email they send, even if the emails 
otherwise appear identical (e.g. advertising offers), so they know that 
you've opened the copy they sent to you.  So it is a good idea to block 
them by default, so that you don't reveal anything just by opening the 
email (spammers can use the same trick to work out which addresses are 
actually being read and opened, to target with more spam).  But the same 
applies to the link to open the email in the browser - it will probably 
include a unique ID, so they know it was opened from the email they sent 
to you, as opposed to anyone else.  That's probably not an issue for 
companies you have dealings with anyway - but the point is that using 
the link to open the message in the browser is not really any better 
than allowing remotely hosted images to be shown in that specific email.


Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Suppressing full html is a security option, some pretty nasty things can 
be spread via html (or MS Word) mails.  I must admit I thought you could 
have exceptions (such as permit full html for costco.com) but I can't 
see how to manipulate them so that could be wrong.


I also have "Block images and other content from remote sources" set. 
When an email contains embedded images from a remote server, SeaMonkey 
displays a green banner saying "To protect your privacy, SeaMonkey has 
blocked remote content in this message" with an "Options" button giving 
the option to show that content.  That shows the content just for that 
email, without having to change the main preference.


That banner also includes options to always allow remote content based 
on the sender or the domain hosting the content.  Those permissions can 
be modified via the "Permissions" settings in Tools > Data Manager 
("Load Images" permissions under the "*" domain for specific senders, or 
the specific domain hosting content).  That might be what you were 
thinking of for setting exceptions.  There's also an option in address 
book entries for whether they prefer to receive messages as plain text 
or HTML - but that's for the format used for outgoing messages you send 
to that address, not how you view messages received from them.


If you don't get that banner, or if selecting the option to show remote 
content still doesn't show the images, there may be something else going 
on.  e.g. the image URLs in the email may be wrong, or the sender may 
have stopped hosting them (I sometimes find that images are no longer 
available if I open an email a couple of months old - depends on the 
sender though).


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Re: Images don't display on Costco emails

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

William Greenwood wrote:

What setting do I need to adjust?


That's a deliberate policy in my case, but those few mails where I 
actually want to look at the pretty pictures normally come with a link: 
"Open in Browser" or "View this email in your browser".
Suppressing full html is a security option, some pretty nasty things can 
be spread via html (or MS Word) mails.  I must admit I thought you could 
have exceptions (such as permit full html for costco.com) but I can't 
see how to manipulate them so that could be wrong.


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Re: Images don't display on Costco emails

[EE]

William Greenwood wrote:

What setting do I need to adjust?
Have you examined Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message Display?  Is 
"Block images and other content from remote sources" checked?

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Images don't display on Costco emails

[William Greenwood]

What setting do I need to adjust?
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"search' in emails

[alexyu]

In SM, you can activate 'search' for email drafts by the shortcut 
'Ctrl-F'.  Does anyone know if it's possible to change some 
settings/options/whatever so that every email draft always opens with 
the 'search' field active?


And, while I'm on this subject, is there some way to change the order of 
the options in the first 'advanced search' (for folders) so that "Body" 
is the first option, instead of "subject"?  I imagine this is 
'hard-coded'. but perhaps there's some way to change it...


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Re: Recovering list emails

[sean]

Daniel wrote:

sean wrote on 3/02/2020 6:49 AM:

Daniel wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/02/2020 7:18 AM:

Daniel wrote:

(Reading a response, here, by NFN Smith to Smiles prompts me to
ask )

About two years ago, I mistakenly, after doing some testing in
 SeaMonkey which required me setting up additional profiles,
when I then deleted those test profiles, I also deleted my
entire SeaMonkey main Profile which contained all my e-mails
and news group posts dating back over twenty years.

At that time I was using Windows 7 (and still am), so I tried
to reclaim the profile from the Win7 Recycle Bin,  but
without success.

I've not emptied the Recycle Bin, yet, so, if anyone wants to
divulge how they recovered from making a similar mistake, I'm
all ears!!



Well if you deleted the profile by selecting in Explorer the 
directory in:


%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles AND it hasn't been deleted
or over written, find the profile RANDOM.default in Recycle Bin
and restore it. Then edit the profiles.ini to include restored
profile's directory name. Start SeaMonkey with  -profileManager
switch and select profile.


Thank you, Jonathan, I'll give it a go.



Should Jonathan's suggestion not be satisfactory, you may also try 
unsubscribing from any news.mozilla.org newsgroups. Rename the 
associated entries in your profile so they don't get reused, then

open a new newsgroup account instance and allow all the posts to the
groups that interest you since their creation to arrive. You can then
search the group posts you are interested in.


A reasonable suggestion, Sean, but I'm not looking to save entire news
group postings, just the copies of my posts to those news groups!



Well, once all the messages had downloaded, you'd just search for your 
email address...


loks like you've resolved your issue though.


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Darker text in emails

[JAS]

	I am using SM version 2.49.5 and is there a way to make the text darker 
when reading or composing an email?


Thanks,

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Re: Recovering list emails

[Daniel]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 7/02/2020 5:29 AM:

Daniel wrote:


A reasonable suggestion, Sean, but I'm not looking to save entire news
group postings, just the copies of my posts to those news groups!


Default unless you changed it newsgroup posts you make are saved in:

PROFILE_DIR\Mail\Local Folders\Sent


Yeap, thanks, Jonathan.

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Re: Recovering list emails

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:
> 
> A reasonable suggestion, Sean, but I'm not looking to save entire news
> group postings, just the copies of my posts to those news groups!

Default unless you changed it newsgroup posts you make are saved in:

PROFILE_DIR\Mail\Local Folders\Sent

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Re: Recovering list emails

[Daniel]

sean wrote on 3/02/2020 6:49 AM:

Daniel wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/02/2020 7:18 AM:

Daniel wrote:

(Reading a response, here, by NFN Smith to Smiles prompts me to
ask )

About two years ago, I mistakenly, after doing some testing in
 SeaMonkey which required me setting up additional profiles,
when I then deleted those test profiles, I also deleted my
entire SeaMonkey main Profile which contained all my e-mails
and news group posts dating back over twenty years.

At that time I was using Windows 7 (and still am), so I tried
to reclaim the profile from the Win7 Recycle Bin,  but
without success.

I've not emptied the Recycle Bin, yet, so, if anyone wants to
divulge how they recovered from making a similar mistake, I'm
all ears!!



Well if you deleted the profile by selecting in Explorer the 
directory in:


%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles AND it hasn't been deleted
or over written, find the profile RANDOM.default in Recycle Bin
and restore it. Then edit the profiles.ini to include restored
profile's directory name. Start SeaMonkey with  -profileManager
switch and select profile.


Thank you, Jonathan, I'll give it a go.



Should Jonathan's suggestion not be satisfactory, you may also try 
unsubscribing from any news.mozilla.org newsgroups. Rename the 
associated entries in your profile so they don't get reused, then

open a new newsgroup account instance and allow all the posts to the
groups that interest you since their creation to arrive. You can then
search the group posts you are interested in.


A reasonable suggestion, Sean, but I'm not looking to save entire news
group postings, just the copies of my posts to those news groups!

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Re: Recovering list emails

[sean]

Daniel wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/02/2020 7:18 AM:

Daniel wrote:
(Reading a response, here, by NFN Smith to Smiles prompts me to ask 
)


About two years ago, I mistakenly, after doing some testing in SeaMonkey
which required me setting up additional profiles, when I then deleted
those test profiles, I also deleted my entire SeaMonkey main Profile
which contained all my e-mails and news group posts dating back over
twenty years.

At that time I was using Windows 7 (and still am), so I tried to reclaim
the profile from the Win7 Recycle Bin,  but without success.

I've not emptied the Recycle Bin, yet, so, if anyone wants to divulge
how they recovered from making a similar mistake, I'm all ears!!



Well if you deleted the profile by selecting in Explorer the directory 
in:


%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles AND it hasn't been deleted or over
written, find the profile RANDOM.default in Recycle Bin and restore it.
Then edit the profiles.ini to include restored profile's directory name.
Start SeaMonkey with  -profileManager switch and select profile.


Thank you, Jonathan, I'll give it a go.



Should Jonathan's suggestion not be satisfactory, you may also try 
unsubscribing from any news.mozilla.org newsgroups. Rename the 
associated entries in your profile so they don't get reused, then open a 
new newsgroup account instance and allow all the posts to the groups 
that interest you since their creation to arrive. You can then search 
the group posts you are interested in.






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Re: Recovering list emails

[Daniel]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/02/2020 7:18 AM:

Daniel wrote:

(Reading a response, here, by NFN Smith to Smiles prompts me to ask )

About two years ago, I mistakenly, after doing some testing in SeaMonkey
which required me setting up additional profiles, when I then deleted
those test profiles, I also deleted my entire SeaMonkey main Profile
which contained all my e-mails and news group posts dating back over
twenty years.

At that time I was using Windows 7 (and still am), so I tried to reclaim
the profile from the Win7 Recycle Bin,  but without success.

I've not emptied the Recycle Bin, yet, so, if anyone wants to divulge
how they recovered from making a similar mistake, I'm all ears!!



Well if you deleted the profile by selecting in Explorer the directory in:

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles AND it hasn't been deleted or over
written, find the profile RANDOM.default in Recycle Bin and restore it.
Then edit the profiles.ini to include restored profile's directory name.
Start SeaMonkey with  -profileManager switch and select profile.


Thank you, Jonathan, I'll give it a go.

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Re: Recovering list emails

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:
> (Reading a response, here, by NFN Smith to Smiles prompts me to ask )
> 
> About two years ago, I mistakenly, after doing some testing in SeaMonkey
> which required me setting up additional profiles, when I then deleted
> those test profiles, I also deleted my entire SeaMonkey main Profile
> which contained all my e-mails and news group posts dating back over
> twenty years.
> 
> At that time I was using Windows 7 (and still am), so I tried to reclaim
> the profile from the Win7 Recycle Bin,  but without success.
> 
> I've not emptied the Recycle Bin, yet, so, if anyone wants to divulge
> how they recovered from making a similar mistake, I'm all ears!!
> 

Well if you deleted the profile by selecting in Explorer the directory in:

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles AND it hasn't been deleted or over
written, find the profile RANDOM.default in Recycle Bin and restore it.
Then edit the profiles.ini to include restored profile's directory name.
Start SeaMonkey with  -profileManager switch and select profile.

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Recovering list emails

[Daniel]

(Reading a response, here, by NFN Smith to Smiles prompts me to ask )

About two years ago, I mistakenly, after doing some testing in SeaMonkey 
which required me setting up additional profiles, when I then deleted 
those test profiles, I also deleted my entire SeaMonkey main Profile 
which contained all my e-mails and news group posts dating back over 
twenty years.


At that time I was using Windows 7 (and still am), so I tried to reclaim 
the profile from the Win7 Recycle Bin,  but without success.


I've not emptied the Recycle Bin, yet, so, if anyone wants to divulge 
how they recovered from making a similar mistake, I'm all ears!!


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emails

[Russell Kolish]

Where can I find my emails?  (Inbox?)
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How do I get to my mail and newsgroups section (emails inbox) in the new Seamonkey

[Russell Kolish]

How do I get to my mail and newsgroups section (emails inbox) in the new
Seamonkey

Thank you very, very much

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Re: (dotted emails) - mail duplicates

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 23/11/19 23:25, Ray_Net wrote:


Klaus Weber wrote on 23-11-19 22:16:
I am very impressed with your helpfulness. Unfortunately the search 
program Remove Duplicate Messages doesn't work with my configuration, 
neither with Seamonkey nor with Thunderbird. ...


Have you read this 
 ?




The linked page from the above claims success with a version for SM from 
the "Remove Duplicate Messages (Alternate)" installation page 
. Unfortunately I 
confirm that the currently offered SM version doesn't work with 2.49.5.


I raised bug .

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Re: (dotted emails) - mail duplicates

[Ray_Net]

Have you readed this 
<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=3037165> ?



Klaus Weber wrote on 23-11-19 22:16:
I am very impressed with your helpfulness. Unfortunately the search 
program Remove Duplicate Messages doesn't work with my configuration, 
neither with Seamonkey nor with Thunderbird. Finding the cause won't 
be easy, since I use 3 Windows and 3 Linux systems each. Many thanks 
for the corresponding hints.
I use pop3 but I can't exclude that I already experimented with IMAP 
on a computer. Maybe I will follow the advice to delete the mails 
manually, but with 4000 mails a lot of work.


Klaus

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 22/11/2019 2:18 AM:

Yes, I have a lot of two copies of one email in the 'Sent' folder.

Klaus


Is your 'Sent' folder on an IMAP server?

If so, it might be that both SeaMonkey and your mail provider are 
both storing a copy of emails you send there.  If SeaMonkey is 
configured to store a copy there (under Mail & Newsgroup Account 
Settings), it would do so when you send an email from SeaMonkey.  
Some mail providers put a copy of emails you send via their outgoing 
(SMTP) server in a 'Sent' folder.  So if both are storing a copy in 
the same folder on an IMAP server, you'd end up with two copies of 
every email you send from SeaMonkey Mail via their outgoing server.


You could disable SeaMonkey storing a copy for that account, and just 
rely on your mail provider saving emails you send in your 'Sent' 
folder.  But then you might not get a copy saved if for any reason 
you send an email via a different outgoing server (may not be a 
concern if you never do that).  You'd also be relying on your mail 
provider continuing to store a copy - if they stop doing it, you 
wouldn't get copies saved until you notice and re-enable SeaMonkey 
storing them.


Your mail provider might also provide an option to disable saving a 
copy from their side.  But then you might not get a copy saved if you 
use webmail or a different mail client (again, may not be a concern 
if you never do that).






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Re: (dotted emails) - mail duplicates

[Klaus Weber]

I am very impressed with your helpfulness. Unfortunately the search 
program Remove Duplicate Messages doesn't work with my configuration, 
neither with Seamonkey nor with Thunderbird. Finding the cause won't be 
easy, since I use 3 Windows and 3 Linux systems each. Many thanks for 
the corresponding hints.
I use pop3 but I can't exclude that I already experimented with IMAP on 
a computer. Maybe I will follow the advice to delete the mails manually, 
but with 4000 mails a lot of work.


Klaus

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 22/11/2019 2:18 AM:

Yes, I have a lot of two copies of one email in the 'Sent' folder.

Klaus


Is your 'Sent' folder on an IMAP server?

If so, it might be that both SeaMonkey and your mail provider are both 
storing a copy of emails you send there.  If SeaMonkey is configured 
to store a copy there (under Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings), it 
would do so when you send an email from SeaMonkey.  Some mail 
providers put a copy of emails you send via their outgoing (SMTP) 
server in a 'Sent' folder.  So if both are storing a copy in the same 
folder on an IMAP server, you'd end up with two copies of every email 
you send from SeaMonkey Mail via their outgoing server.


You could disable SeaMonkey storing a copy for that account, and just 
rely on your mail provider saving emails you send in your 'Sent' 
folder.  But then you might not get a copy saved if for any reason you 
send an email via a different outgoing server (may not be a concern if 
you never do that).  You'd also be relying on your mail provider 
continuing to store a copy - if they stop doing it, you wouldn't get 
copies saved until you notice and re-enable SeaMonkey storing them.


Your mail provider might also provide an option to disable saving a 
copy from their side.  But then you might not get a copy saved if you 
use webmail or a different mail client (again, may not be a concern if 
you never do that).




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Re: dotted emails

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Klaus Weber wrote on 22/11/2019 2:18 AM:

Yes, I have a lot of two copies of one email in the 'Sent' folder.

Klaus


Is your 'Sent' folder on an IMAP server?

If so, it might be that both SeaMonkey and your mail provider are both 
storing a copy of emails you send there.  If SeaMonkey is configured to 
store a copy there (under Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings), it would 
do so when you send an email from SeaMonkey.  Some mail providers put a 
copy of emails you send via their outgoing (SMTP) server in a 'Sent' 
folder.  So if both are storing a copy in the same folder on an IMAP 
server, you'd end up with two copies of every email you send from 
SeaMonkey Mail via their outgoing server.


You could disable SeaMonkey storing a copy for that account, and just 
rely on your mail provider saving emails you send in your 'Sent' folder. 
 But then you might not get a copy saved if for any reason you send an 
email via a different outgoing server (may not be a concern if you never 
do that).  You'd also be relying on your mail provider continuing to 
store a copy - if they stop doing it, you wouldn't get copies saved 
until you notice and re-enable SeaMonkey storing them.


Your mail provider might also provide an option to disable saving a copy 
from their side.  But then you might not get a copy saved if you use 
webmail or a different mail client (again, may not be a concern if you 
never do that).


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Re: dotted emails

[BigBlue]

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 3:12:07 PM UTC-6, Klaus Weber wrote:
> SM 2.49.2, Windows 10
> 
> Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?
> 
> Klaus

Might not be the best solution, but view the 'Sent' folder, sort by date or 
subject (so all the e-mails are listed in pairs) and then click on every other 
line and delete. It's not elegant but it makes it easy to click through lots of 
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Re: dotted emails

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 21/11/19 15:18, Klaus Weber wrote:

Daniel schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 8:12 AM:

SM 2.49.2, Windows 10

Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?

...>
O.K., Klaus, do you mean that when you send a e-mail out to someone, 
you end up with two copies of the email in your 'Sent' folder?? Or is 
it one copy in 'Sent' and one somewhere else??



> Yes, I have a lot of two copies of one email in the 'Sent' folder.

There is an extension for Thunderbird and SeaMonkey that may solve your 
problem: <http://removedupes.mozdev.org/index.html>.


Otherwise, how about this? Obviously, I haven't tested this exact procedure.

1.	Select the smallest easily identifiable set of Sent messages that 
includes all the possible duplicates ("replicas") and move those 
messages to a new temporary folder.


2.	Export 'all messages in folder' in EML format from the temporary 
folder to a Windows filesystem directory.


3.	Use a file de-duplication tool, such as "Duplicate Files Finder" or 
one of the other tools listed here 
<https://lifehacker.com/the-best-duplicate-file-finder-for-windows-1696492476>, 
on the files in that directory, leaving only one copy of each exported 
message.


4.	Import 'all messages from folder' from the directory to a new mail 
folder.


5.	If you're happy with the resulting message list in the new folder, 
move the imported messages to the Sent folder and delete the new import 
folder and the temporary folder with its original messages. If not, move 
the original messages back to the Sent folder and delete the temporary 
folder and the new import folder with its unwanted messages.


If either the extension or step 3 fails because the apparently duplicate 
messages are somehow not completely identical, you might be able to use 
whatever is different to create a message filter that will separate one 
copy of each duplicate.


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Re: dotted emails

[Daniel]

Klaus Weber wrote on 22/11/2019 2:18 AM:

Yes, I have a lot of two copies of one email in the 'Sent' folder.

Klaus

Daniel schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 6:22 PM:
Obviously deepl.com gave a wrong translation. I meant double copies 
of emails (replicas).

I hope to be clear now.

Klaus

Daniel schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 8:12 AM:

SM 2.49.2, Windows 10

Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?

Klaus

'dotted emails'?? What??



O.K., Klaus, do you mean that when you send a e-mail out to someone, 
you end up with two copies of the email in your 'Sent' folder?? Or is 
it one copy in 'Sent' and one somewhere else??





Hmm!! I was, sort of, hoping it was the other way!

I've got no idea how to fix your situation, sorry, Klaus, but maybe 
someone else reading here will have a suggestion!


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Re: dotted emails

[Klaus Weber]

Yes, I have a lot of two copies of one email in the 'Sent' folder.

Klaus

Daniel schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 6:22 PM:
Obviously deepl.com gave a wrong translation. I meant double copies 
of emails (replicas).

I hope to be clear now.

Klaus

Daniel schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 8:12 AM:

SM 2.49.2, Windows 10

Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?

Klaus

'dotted emails'?? What??



O.K., Klaus, do you mean that when you send a e-mail out to someone, 
you end up with two copies of the email in your 'Sent' folder?? Or is 
it one copy in 'Sent' and one somewhere else??




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Re: dotted emails

[Daniel]

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 6:22 PM:
Obviously deepl.com gave a wrong translation. I meant double copies of 
emails (replicas).

I hope to be clear now.

Klaus

Daniel schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 8:12 AM:

SM 2.49.2, Windows 10

Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?

Klaus

'dotted emails'?? What??



O.K., Klaus, do you mean that when you send a e-mail out to someone, you 
end up with two copies of the email in your 'Sent' folder?? Or is it one 
copy in 'Sent' and one somewhere else??


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Re: dotted emails

[Klaus Weber]

Obviously deepl.com gave a wrong translation. I meant double copies of 
emails (replicas).

I hope to be clear now.

Klaus

Daniel schrieb:

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 8:12 AM:

SM 2.49.2, Windows 10

Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?

Klaus

'dotted emails'?? What??



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Re: dotted emails

[Hartmut Figge]

Daniel:
>Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 8:12 AM:

>> SM 2.49.2, Windows 10
>> 
>> Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?
>
>'dotted emails'?? What??

Thanks for asking that. :)

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Re: dotted emails

[Daniel]

Klaus Weber wrote on 21/11/2019 8:12 AM:

SM 2.49.2, Windows 10

Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?

Klaus

'dotted emails'?? What??

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dotted emails

[Klaus Weber]

SM 2.49.2, Windows 10

Is there a possibility to delete lots of dotted emails?

Klaus
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Re: Problem with Getting Unwanted List Emails

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On 10/9/2019 2:16 PM, Jim Curland wrote:
> The other day I got this email from SeaMonkey support:
> 
> 
> Your membership in the mailing list support-seamonkey has been
> disabled by yourself.  You will not get any more messages from this
> list until you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 2 more
> reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted.
> 
> To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
> (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at
> 
> 
> I just replied to that email and now I'm getting all of these unwanted emails 
> from people asking questions about SeaMonkey.  Can you please advise how I 
> can get rid of this and yet satisfy the concern that somehow the system 
> thought I disabled my membership from the mailing list.  I want the ability 
> to go on the forum with my Mozilla sign in to ask SeaMonkey questions, but I 
> don't want to be on a mailing list where I get questions and answers for 
> other members having their own issues.
> 
> Thanks for clarifying!

Did you recall really disabling your subscription?  If not, that E-mail
might have been spam.

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Re: Problem with Getting Unwanted List Emails

[WaltS48]

On 10/9/19 5:16 PM, Jim Curland wrote:

The other day I got this email from SeaMonkey support:


Your membership in the mailing list support-seamonkey has been
disabled by yourself.  You will not get any more messages from this
list until you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 2 more
reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
(leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at


I just replied to that email and now I'm getting all of these unwanted emails 
from people asking questions about SeaMonkey.  Can you please advise how I can 
get rid of this and yet satisfy the concern that somehow the system thought I 
disabled my membership from the mailing list.  I want the ability to go on the 
forum with my Mozilla sign in to ask SeaMonkey questions, but I don't want to 
be on a mailing list where I get questions and answers for other members having 
their own issues.

Thanks for clarifying!


Jim



What forum can you go to with a Mozilla sign in to get support for 
SeaMonkey?


You can unsubscribe from the list by going to 
<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey>, scroll down to 
where you enter the email address you used to subscribe and click the 
"Unsubscribe or edit options" button.



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Problem with Getting Unwanted List Emails

[Jim Curland]

  
  
The other day I got this email from SeaMonkey
  support:
  

Your membership in the mailing list support-seamonkey has been
disabled by yourself.  You will not get any more messages from this
list until you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 2 more
reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
(leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at


I just replied to that email and now I'm getting all of these unwanted emails from people asking questions about SeaMonkey.  Can you please advise how I can get rid of this and yet satisfy the concern that somehow the system thought I disabled my membership from the mailing list.  I want the ability to go on the forum with my Mozilla sign in to ask SeaMonkey questions, but I don't want to be on a mailing list where I get questions and answers for other members having their own issues.

Thanks for clarifying!


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?? in my emails

[Pat Connors]

Thanks for all your help, I have tried the one where I used Frank Lion's 
solution, now time will tell if it worked for me.

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Re: ?? in my emails

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/4/19 2:14 PM, Pat Connors wrote:
Recently, whenever I send an email, I find the ?? (two question marks) 
are showing in empty spaces after they are sent.?? Before sending, the 
email has no ??.?? Is there a setting that can fix this.?? I have been 
using SM since it started and this just happened in the past week.


Thanks in advance for your help.



Try this solution.





I looked at that entry - not that I have this problem - and was shocked 
by the level of technical competence exhibited by one of the 
participants.  Then again, I've use about:config before so I know where 
it goes.


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Re: ?? in my emails

[WaltS48]

On 6/4/19 2:14 PM, Pat Connors wrote:
Recently, whenever I send an email, I find the ?? (two question marks) 
are showing in empty spaces after they are sent.?? Before sending, the 
email has no ??.?? Is there a setting that can fix this.?? I have been 
using SM since it started and this just happened in the past week.


Thanks in advance for your help.



Try this solution.



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?? in my emails

[Pat Connors]

Recently, whenever I send an email, I find the ?? (two question marks) 
are showing in empty spaces after they are sent.?? Before sending, the 
email has no ??.?? Is there a setting that can fix this.?? I have been 
using SM since it started and this just happened in the past week.


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


rick-shar wrote:
...don't suppose you have any insights for the first one I described, 
with [x] references called out in the html code?


I don't really understand what your problem is with the first one. 
It's quite a common convention in plain-text emails where, unlike 
HTML, there is no formatting to turn arbitrary words into a link to a 
URL - the full URL has to be included as part of the text. Rather than 
include long URLs within the main text, which might make the it 
difficult to read, the sender has included the URLs at the bottom like 
numbered footnotes. The numbers in square brackets within the text 
refer you, the reader, to the corresponding footnote to find the URL. 
That's just a convention for human readability; there's no magic 
formatting in plain text which would turn the words next to the 
reference into a link to the URL.


What are you expecting to happen that's not happening? Or what's 
happening that you're not expecting?


The OP has said these are HTML messages (and he posted relevant code 
excerpts), so the normal expectation is for the display text to be 
hyperlinked to the URLs. In that case, the display text is what the 
reader sees, and the URL, no matter how long, is not visible. His 
complaint was that the hyperlinks don't work -- he mouses over and the 
cursor changes shape as it should, but nothing appears in the SM status 
bar and nothing happens when he clicks.


If you want more, read the thread as most people who want to help will do.


I have read the thread. I explained the issue with the second example he 
gave, which I can reproduce (some extra spaces at the beginning of the 
URL seem to prevent the link from working).


The message source provided for the first example started "Content-Type: 
text/plain" and did not include any HTML formatting - so looks like a 
plain-text email to me. Maybe that email also has an HTML part, in which 
case my guess would be that it's the same issue - but that's only a 
guess since as far as I can see looking back over the thread we haven't 
actually seen the HTML part of that message.


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


rick-shar wrote:
...don't suppose you have any insights for the first one I described, 
with [x] references called out in the html code?


I don't really understand what your problem is with the first one. It's 
quite a common convention in plain-text emails where, unlike HTML, there 
is no formatting to turn arbitrary words into a link to a URL - the full 
URL has to be included as part of the text. Rather than include long 
URLs within the main text, which might make the it difficult to read, 
the sender has included the URLs at the bottom like numbered footnotes. 
The numbers in square brackets within the text refer you, the reader, to 
the corresponding footnote to find the URL. That's just a convention for 
human readability; there's no magic formatting in plain text which would 
turn the words next to the reference into a link to the URL.


What are you expecting to happen that's not happening? Or what's 
happening that you're not expecting?


The OP has said these are HTML messages (and he posted relevant code 
excerpts), so the normal expectation is for the display text to be 
hyperlinked to the URLs. In that case, the display text is what the 
reader sees, and the URL, no matter how long, is not visible. His 
complaint was that the hyperlinks don't work -- he mouses over and the 
cursor changes shape as it should, but nothing appears in the SM status 
bar and nothing happens when he clicks.


If you want more, read the thread as most people who want to help will do.

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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

rick-shar wrote:
...don't suppose you have any insights for the 
first one I described, with [x] references called out in the html code?


I don't really understand what your problem is with the first one. It's 
quite a common convention in plain-text emails where, unlike HTML, there 
is no formatting to turn arbitrary words into a link to a URL - the full 
URL has to be included as part of the text. Rather than include long 
URLs within the main text, which might make the it difficult to read, 
the sender has included the URLs at the bottom like numbered footnotes. 
The numbers in square brackets within the text refer you, the reader, to 
the corresponding footnote to find the URL. That's just a convention for 
human readability; there's no magic formatting in plain text which would 
turn the words next to the reference into a link to the URL.


What are you expecting to happen that's not happening? Or what's 
happening that you're not expecting?


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[RicklesP]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:




Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with 
the message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, 
and hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a 
hyperlink. But clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected 
URL of the link in the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail 
window.  If I view the message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the 
section which includes the on-screen text.





Here's the beginning of the html area after the mail headers:

"--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew 
Now' centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a 
URL which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.



  
 style=3D"text-align:center;vertical-align:top;">
   style=3D"margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;">
   style=3D"mso-hide:all;wid=

th:auto;">
 cellspacing=3D"0" sty=
le=3D"mso-hide:all;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;" width=3D"180" 
heigh=

t=3D"50">
   
 style=3D"text-alig=
n:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;vertical-align:middle;color:#f= 

f;display:block;background-color:#3da32e;border-radius:4px;" 
width=3D"180" =

height=3D"50" class=3D"td-cta-tbl">   
http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" 
style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;= 

margin:0 
auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" tar= 

get=3D"_blank">sans-serif"=
  size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=
oration:none;">style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#ff=

;">Renew Now
   
 
   
 
 
   

Does this suggest anything?


In the "href=" part, there are a couple of spaces between the opening 
quote and the start of the URL. A quick experiment sending myself an 
email with:

   http://www.example.com/;>Click Here
has exactly the effect you describe - the text is recognised as a link 
(blue underline and cursor changes to a hand), but the URL is not 
recognised (not shown in the status bar, and clicking has no effect). 
Note that I had to manually craft that email, since inserting a link 
SeaMonkey's HTML mail editor strips the extra spaces from the href!


An HTML document with the same link opened in SeaMonkey's browser works 
fine, and clicking it leads to .


The HTML5 specification [1] says that the value of the href attribute 
must be "a valid URL potentially surrounded by spaces". I haven't found 
a clear statement in specs for earlier HTML versions.


Although the unnecessary presence of those spaces in the href is a bit 
odd, it appears they shouldn't strictly cause any problem so the fact 
they do may be a bug in SeaMonkey mail (which isn't present in the 
browser). The difference in behaviour between mail and browser does seem 
a bit odd, as I thought they used the same rendering engine, so perhaps 
this is intentional for some reason.


Possibly related to bug 680352, in that whatever blocks links without a 
protocol might also block links with the leading spaces (since the link 
doesn't start with a protocol). That may well be intentional as a 
security protection, since a link to "www.example.com" actually 
references a file relative to the email, not "http://www.example.com;!


[1] 
 



Makes perfect sense, syntax is everything in text-based media.  That 
explains the second email, don't suppose you have any insights for the 
first one I described, with [x] references called out in the html code?

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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[RicklesP]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In this case, it seems clear that the sender is to blame. They're 
using footnotes and putting the URLs in the notes, not hyperlinking 
them in the body text.


OK Paul, can you decipher the other one I had this with?  Here's the 
beginning of the html area after the mail headers:


...

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew 
Now' centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a 
URL which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.


...

   
http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" 
style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;= 

margin:0 
auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" tar= 

get=3D"_blank">sans-serif"=
  size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=
oration:none;">style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#ff=

;">Renew Now

...

Does this suggest anything?


That much looks like a valid link to me (fair warning: I'm not a web 
designer, I could've overlooked something)...


Are you using an ad blocker that would prevent SM from honoring your 
click and going to the linked page?



No ad blocker in SM.  That's why I'm surprised this is happening at all.
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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Rick & Sharon wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:




Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with 
the message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink. 
But clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the 
link in the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I 
view the message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which 
includes the on-screen text.




Here's the 
beginning of the html area after the mail headers:


"--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew Now' 
centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a URL 
which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.



  
     
   
   style=3D"mso-hide:all;wid=

th:auto;">
     sty=
le=3D"mso-hide:all;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;" width=3D"180" 
heigh=

t=3D"50">
   
     style=3D"text-alig=
n:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;vertical-align:middle;color:#f= 

f;display:block;background-color:#3da32e;border-radius:4px;" 
width=3D"180" =

height=3D"50" class=3D"td-cta-tbl">http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" 
style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;=
margin:0 
auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" 
tar=
get=3D"_blank">sans-serif"=
  size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=
oration:none;">style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#ff=

;">Renew Now
   
     
   
     
     
   

Does this suggest anything?


In the "href=" part, there are a couple of spaces between the opening 
quote and the start of the URL. A quick experiment sending myself an 
email with:

  http://www.example.com/;>Click Here
has exactly the effect you describe - the text is recognised as a link 
(blue underline and cursor changes to a hand), but the URL is not 
recognised (not shown in the status bar, and clicking has no effect). 
Note that I had to manually craft that email, since inserting a link 
SeaMonkey's HTML mail editor strips the extra spaces from the href!


An HTML document with the same link opened in SeaMonkey's browser works 
fine, and clicking it leads to .


The HTML5 specification [1] says that the value of the href attribute 
must be "a valid URL potentially surrounded by spaces". I haven't found 
a clear statement in specs for earlier HTML versions.


Although the unnecessary presence of those spaces in the href is a bit 
odd, it appears they shouldn't strictly cause any problem so the fact 
they do may be a bug in SeaMonkey mail (which isn't present in the 
browser). The difference in behaviour between mail and browser does seem 
a bit odd, as I thought they used the same rendering engine, so perhaps 
this is intentional for some reason.


Possibly related to bug 680352, in that whatever blocks links without a 
protocol might also block links with the leading spaces (since the link 
doesn't start with a protocol). That may well be intentional as a 
security protection, since a link to "www.example.com" actually 
references a file relative to the email, not "http://www.example.com;!


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick & Sharon wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In this case, it seems clear that the sender is to blame. They're 
using footnotes and putting the URLs in the notes, not hyperlinking 
them in the body text.


OK Paul, can you decipher the other one I had this with?  Here's the 
beginning of the html area after the mail headers:


...

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew Now' 
centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a URL 
which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.


...

http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" 
style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;=
margin:0 
auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" 
tar=
get=3D"_blank">sans-serif"=
  size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=
oration:none;">style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#ff=

;">Renew Now

...

Does this suggest anything?


That much looks like a valid link to me (fair warning: I'm not a web 
designer, I could've overlooked something)...


Are you using an ad blocker that would prevent SM from honoring your 
click and going to the linked page?


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Rick & Sharon]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs 
in plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as 
plain text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with 
the message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink.  
But clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the 
link in the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I view 
the message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which includes the 
on-screen text.


In one email, the on-screen text is followed by what appears to be an 
index "[1]" which you don't see on the HTML render.  Other items have 
similar but different indexes next to them, and there is a "Links:" 
section to the doc, with those same links defined.  The first such 
link includes the URL that I should be referred to by the hyperlink.


From the source, here's part of the message just after the routing and 
AV status messages from the header:


...

{Openquote  "Any questions? No need to call. Just take a look at our 
guide [1] where you'll find everything you need to know.


  Plusnet Community [2]

  Plusnet Help [3]

  Facebook [4]

  YouTube [5]

...

Links:
--
[1] 
https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/How-to-change-your-outgoing-server-on-a-mail-client/td-p/1606155?utm_source=customerutm_medium=res-emailutm_content=update_email_settingsutm_campaign=spf_records 


...

Wordy, but it explains what I'm seeing (or not).  Ideas?


In this case, it seems clear that the sender is to blame. They're using 
footnotes and putting the URLs in the notes, not hyperlinking them in 
the body text.


OK Paul, can you decipher the other one I had this with?  Here's the 
beginning of the html area after the mail headers:


"--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew Now' 
centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a URL 
which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.



 

  
  style=3D"mso-hide:all;wid=

th:auto;">
sty=

le=3D"mso-hide:all;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;" width=3D"180" heigh=
t=3D"50">
  
style=3D"text-alig=

n:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;vertical-align:middle;color:#f=
f;display:block;background-color:#3da32e;border-radius:4px;" width=3D"180" =
height=3D"50" class=3D"td-cta-tbl">http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;=
margin:0 auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" tar=
get=3D"_blank"> size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=

oration:none;">Renew Now
  

  


  

Does this suggest anything?
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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs 
in plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as 
plain text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with the 
message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink.  But 
clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the link in 
the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I view the 
message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which includes the 
on-screen text.


In one email, the on-screen text is followed by what appears to be an 
index "[1]" which you don't see on the HTML render.  Other items have 
similar but different indexes next to them, and there is a "Links:" 
section to the doc, with those same links defined.  The first such link 
includes the URL that I should be referred to by the hyperlink.


From the source, here's part of the message just after the routing and 
AV status messages from the header:


...

{Openquote  "Any questions? No need to call. Just take a look at our 
guide [1] where you'll find everything you need to know.


  Plusnet Community [2]

  Plusnet Help [3]

  Facebook [4]

  YouTube [5]

...

Links:
--
[1] 
https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/How-to-change-your-outgoing-server-on-a-mail-client/td-p/1606155?utm_source=customerutm_medium=res-emailutm_content=update_email_settingsutm_campaign=spf_records 


...

Wordy, but it explains what I'm seeing (or not).  Ideas?


In this case, it seems clear that the sender is to blame. They're using 
footnotes and putting the URLs in the notes, not hyperlinking them in 
the body text.


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Rick & Sharon]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Win10 Pro workgroup PC.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4---Build identifier: 
20180713174829


Have recently noticed that hyperlinks in received messages don't show 
URL info at the bottom of the current window, and also don't do 
anything when clicked.  The cursor does change when hovering so the 
link is recognized, it's just not acted on.  If I use 'Copy link 
location' and then try to paste that, there's nothing to paste.


Most of the time email links are a no-no, but 2 have been legitimate 
(one from my AV supplier, one from my ISP) and both failed to do 
anything.


Nothing obvious in Preferences, and shutting my AV completely off had 
no effect.


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs in 
plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as plain 
text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with the 
message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink.  But 
clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the link in 
the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I view the 
message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which includes the 
on-screen text.


In one email, the on-screen text is followed by what appears to be an 
index "[1]" which you don't see on the HTML render.  Other items have 
similar but different indexes next to them, and there is a "Links:" 
section to the doc, with those same links defined.  The first such link 
includes the URL that I should be referred to by the hyperlink.


From the source, here's part of the message just after the routing and 
AV status messages from the header:


{Openquote  "This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--=_0931b06fb16784e0bd59e458376562d2
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Important - you might need to update your email settings

We're changing the way our emails work" EndQuote}

Then there's some body text, and then the end of the first part:

{Openquote  "Any questions? No need to call. Just take a look at our 
guide [1] where you'll find everything you need to know.


Plusnet Community [2]

Plusnet Help [3]

Facebook [4]

YouTube [5]

 Plusnet plc
Registered Office: The Balance, 2 Pinfold Street, Sheffield, S1 2GU
Registered in England no: 3279013
VAT No: 245 7193 48



Links:
--
[1] 
https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/How-to-change-your-outgoing-server-on-a-mail-client/td-p/1606155?utm_source=customerutm_medium=res-emailutm_content=update_email_settingsutm_campaign=spf_records

[2] https://community.plus.net/
[3] http://www.twitter.com/plusnethelp
[4] http://www.facebook.com/plusnet
[5] http://www.youtube.com/PlusNetTV; EndQuote}

I have the same behavior with the message in the preview pane, or opened 
in its own window, and none of those links works.


The second part of the message is a Base64-graphic which appears to be 
the background graphic everything else is laid down on.


A previous message from another source had a small on-screen green 
rectangle with enbedded text as another hyperlink.  The layout of the 
message source was nowhere near as described above, but the URL was 
clearly available in the source, and did resolve/render when I pasted it 
into my browser address bar.  I can't copy that link because it was 
against my existing AVG account.


Wordy, but it explains what I'm seeing (or not).  Ideas?
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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Win10 Pro workgroup PC.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4---Build identifier: 20180713174829


Have recently noticed that hyperlinks in received messages don't show 
URL info at the bottom of the current window, and also don't do anything 
when clicked.  The cursor does change when hovering so the link is 
recognized, it's just not acted on.  If I use 'Copy link location' and 
then try to paste that, there's nothing to paste.


Most of the time email links are a no-no, but 2 have been legitimate 
(one from my AV supplier, one from my ISP) and both failed to do anything.


Nothing obvious in Preferences, and shutting my AV completely off had no 
effect.


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs in 
plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as plain 
text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


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Links in emails not sending?

[Rick & Sharon]

Win10 Pro workgroup PC.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4---Build identifier: 20180713174829


Have recently noticed that hyperlinks in received messages don't show 
URL info at the bottom of the current window, and also don't do anything 
when clicked.  The cursor does change when hovering so the link is 
recognized, it's just not acted on.  If I use 'Copy link location' and 
then try to paste that, there's nothing to paste.


Most of the time email links are a no-no, but 2 have been legitimate 
(one from my AV supplier, one from my ISP) and both failed to do anything.


Nothing obvious in Preferences, and shutting my AV completely off had no 
effect.


Suggestions?
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Re: Identify duplicate emails in folder - recovering from operator error :

[cyberzen]

Richard Owlett a écrit :
I had just manually *copied* two treads from a primary folder to a 
special purpose folder.


I then applied the wrong set of filters to the special purpose folder.

The result was *MOVING* all content of the special folder back to the 
original.


Any automated way to identify duplicates within a particular folder?
I can do it manually but is tedious and possibly error prone.

TIA


addon remove duplicates (alternative)
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Identify duplicate emails in folder - recovering from operator error :

[Richard Owlett]

I had just manually *copied* two treads from a primary folder to a 
special purpose folder.


I then applied the wrong set of filters to the special purpose folder.

The result was *MOVING* all content of the special folder back to the 
original.


Any automated way to identify duplicates within a particular folder?
I can do it manually but is tedious and possibly error prone.

TIA
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Moving emails to subfolders in Seamonkey 2.49.3

[Bill Spikowski]

I've had this problem before, and it's back.

I have an elaborate folder structure for storing emails, going back maybe 20 
years.

Usually it's a snap to drag one or a group of emails from my inbox to a 
subfolder. The past few days (on several computers running Win 7 or Win10), the 
focus often changes to the subfolder after I drag an email. This happens most 
often when the system pauses for moment when the email being moved is hovering 
over the subfolder.

I've always assumed that when this happens, the receiving subfolder has gotten 
too large, causing the pause -- so I regularly organize the subfolders so that 
the top-level receiving subfolders don't have too many messages, and I keep 
them compacted.

My usual tricks aren't working any more; I'm wondering if there might be 
something else causing this behavior?
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All Emails Not DL'g In New Profile... SM 2.49.4, W 10 Pro, Lenovo Laptop

[bo1953]

Hello all, after making a new profile, I had only 75 emails from 2016 dl 
and then 45 emails from 2018 dl... everything in between no populating...


This is for my Gmail account, any ideas or suggestions as to where I 
have gone astray and how to correct?


If I can only dl the emails for 2018, I would be happier as it were... ;-)

TIA - bo1953
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Re: odd things popping up in emails

[Paul B. Gallagher]

I just wrote:


Pat Connors wrote:

A few weeks ago, my email, both out going and incoming, started having 
weird A's with an upside down v over it , popping up.  A recent email 
only of only 2 lines long had 8 of them!  Yesterday, I updated to 
Seamonkey 2.49.4 and they are just as bad.


How can I get rid of them??
Thanks in advance for your help.


Most likely Unicode messages being displayed in some other encoding, 
such as Western. For example, “curly quotes” will come out as mojibake 
(文字化け, Japanese word for "gibberish resulting from incorrect 
decoding" ) if you do this. Some 
senders or sending programs send messages in Unicode but fail to mention 
that fact, as if they're assuming your program knows, or mislabel them, 
effectively lying to your program. And some recipients have their 
programs set to use Western no matter what, and anything else gets garbled.


Try View | Text Encoding | Unicode and see if it helps. This message is 
a good test.


P.S. Most of the time, setting View | Text Encoding to "Auto-Detect" 
works, but for malformed messages as noted above, you may have to select 
Unicode manually.


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Re: odd things popping up in emails

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Pat Connors wrote:

A few weeks ago, my email, both out going and incoming, started having 
weird A's with an upside down v over it , popping up.  A recent email 
only of only 2 lines long had 8 of them!  Yesterday, I updated to 
Seamonkey 2.49.4 and they are just as bad.


How can I get rid of them??
Thanks in advance for your help.


Most likely Unicode messages being displayed in some other encoding, 
such as Western. For example, “curly quotes” will come out as mojibake 
(文字化け, Japanese word for "gibberish resulting from incorrect decoding" 
) if you do this. Some senders 
or sending programs send messages in Unicode but fail to mention that 
fact, as if they're assuming your program knows, or mislabel them, 
effectively lying to your program. And some recipients have their 
programs set to use Western no matter what, and anything else gets garbled.


Try View | Text Encoding | Unicode and see if it helps. This message is 
a good test.


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Re: odd things popping up in emails

[WaltS48]

On 8/23/18 2:56 AM, Pat Connors wrote:
A few weeks ago, my email, both out going and incoming, started having 
weird A's with an upside down v over it , popping up.  A recent email 
only of only 2 lines long had 8 of them!  Yesterday, I updated to 
Seamonkey 2.49.4 and they are just as bad.


How can I get rid of them??
Thanks in advance for your help.



What View > Layout are you using?

There is a bug report indicating that changing the layout causes an 
encoding problem and that character appears.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1485469#c7

I just tested that by switching my Thunderbird layout from Classic View 
to Wide View and confirmed the problem exists. Changed back to Classic 
View and I didn't see the character anymore.


Try changing View > Layout and see if that fixes it.

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Re: odd things popping up in emails

[GerardJan]

Pat Connors wrote:
A few weeks ago, my email, both out going and incoming, started having weird A's 
with an upside down v over it , popping up.  A recent email only of only 2 lines 
long had 8 of them!  Yesterday, I updated to Seamonkey 2.49.4 and they are just 
as bad.


How can I get rid of them??
Thanks in advance for your help.


install 2.49.3 again that is stable

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odd things popping up in emails

[Pat Connors]

A few weeks ago, my email, both out going and incoming, started having 
weird A's with an upside down v over it , popping up.  A recent email 
only of only 2 lines long had 8 of them!  Yesterday, I updated to 
Seamonkey 2.49.4 and they are just as bad.


How can I get rid of them??
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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 6:23:39 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> Hello again.
> 
> I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
> no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM. 
>  Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to 
> keep the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an 
> email?
> 
> Thanks.

I use Insert Image.  Is this incorrect?
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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[GerardJan]

Ray_Net wrote:

Jeffrey Needle wrote on 15-05-18 03:23:

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?


Thanks.

I do a simple copy/paste and I never encouter a check box ...

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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Ray_Net]

Jeffrey Needle wrote on 15-05-18 03:23:

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?

Thanks.

I do a simple copy/paste and I never encouter a check box ...
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Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Jeffrey Needle]

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?

Thanks.
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hundreds of duplicate emails - SM 2.49.2 bug or server problem?

[David H. Durgee]

In the past few weeks I have been encountering cases when one or more of 
my six active email accounts suddenly has hundreds, in some cases 
thousands, of duplicate emails.  I am able to deal with this the remove 
duplicates add-in, but it is annoying.


Is anyone else encountering this?  The accounts are on Verizon and 
Yahoo, so since they merged for email all based on the same servers.


Dave
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SUCCESS ! {Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses}

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/18/2017 06:40 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/18/17 6:59 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

During that call the problem account was given a new password.
I just tried to read mail on that account and was blocked with
SeaMonkey asking for a password. I entered the new password. I could
then read mail BUT still have the same error message when attempting
to send.



Did you change the password for the SMTP server? Changing the password
for receiving mail does not change both.



SUCCESS!
You phrasing hit me with a large enough stick to get my attention ;/

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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[WaltS48]

On 10/18/17 6:59 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

During that call the problem account was given a new password.
I just tried to read mail on that account and was blocked with SeaMonkey 
asking for a password. I entered the new password. I could then read 
mail BUT still have the same error message when attempting to send.



Did you change the password for the SMTP server? Changing the password 
for receiving mail does not change both.


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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/18/2017 03:27 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 18/10/2017 21:26, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have two email accounts with my ISP.
I can receive mail on both accounts.
My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an old backup.

The error message is:
"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  From
address must match authenticated address.  Please verify that your email
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."

Is there some way to locally capture outgoing messages from both
accounts for comparison purposes?

Is there a way to print out all the settings for each account?


Your two accounts are probably using the same SMTP settings.

Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings...
Bottom option = Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Create the other setting, then make the account point to the
new setting.

Might be uselful:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
https://www.lifewire.com/pop-imap-smtp-traffic-thunderbird-1173156

Regards.



Thanks for the links. I'll be able to study them tomorrow.


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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/18/2017 03:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


I have two email accounts with my ISP. I can receive mail on both
accounts. My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an
old backup.

The error message is: "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail
server responded:  From address must match authenticated address.
Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
preferences and try again."


Many mail servers do this as a way of blocking spam.



That's evidently not the case. My ISP is local and I spoke to them 
before making this post. That why I was looking for a detailed log of 
what was going out.


During that call the problem account was given a new password.
I just tried to read mail on that account and was blocked with SeaMonkey 
asking for a password. I entered the new password. I could then read 
mail BUT still have the same error message when attempting to send.




Here's a workaround:

1) Create a second SMTP server with all the same settings but the other
username.

2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

Detailed instructions:

1) Create a second SMTP server:

a) From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings...
and scroll to the bottom of the list, where you'll see "Outgoing Server
(SMTP)." Click once to expand it.

b) Choose the existing SMTP server and click "Edit." Note down all the
settings (without changing any), or if you find it more convenient, take
a screenshot and print it out. Click "Cancel" to exit without saving
changes.

c) In the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" dialog, click "Add" and create a new
SMTP server with all the same settings except the username at bottom.
Make sure to give it a different name ("Description" at the top) so you
and SM can tell them apart. Save.

2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings..., and
click the name of the second mail account." Near the bottom of the
dialog, click "Outgoing Server (SMTP):". From the pull-down list, choose
the new server you just created, and click "OK" to save.

That should do it. You may be prompted for a new password the first time
SM uses it, but probably not.



I will have to wait until tomorrow to try that.

Thank you.

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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Richard Owlett wrote:


I have two email accounts with my ISP. I can receive mail on both
accounts. My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an
old backup.

The error message is: "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail
server responded:  From address must match authenticated address.
Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
preferences and try again."


Many mail servers do this as a way of blocking spam.

Here's a workaround:

1) Create a second SMTP server with all the same settings but the other 
username.


2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

Detailed instructions:

1) Create a second SMTP server:

a) From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings... 
and scroll to the bottom of the list, where you'll see "Outgoing Server 
(SMTP)." Click once to expand it.


b) Choose the existing SMTP server and click "Edit." Note down all the 
settings (without changing any), or if you find it more convenient, take 
a screenshot and print it out. Click "Cancel" to exit without saving 
changes.


c) In the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" dialog, click "Add" and create a new 
SMTP server with all the same settings except the username at bottom. 
Make sure to give it a different name ("Description" at the top) so you 
and SM can tell them apart. Save.


2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings..., 
and click the name of the second mail account." Near the bottom of the 
dialog, click "Outgoing Server (SMTP):". From the pull-down list, choose 
the new server you just created, and click "OK" to save.


That should do it. You may be prompted for a new password the first time 
SM uses it, but probably not.


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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Mason83]

On 18/10/2017 21:26, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have two email accounts with my ISP.
> I can receive mail on both accounts.
> My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an old backup.
> 
> The error message is:
> "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  From 
> address must match authenticated address.  Please verify that your email 
> address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."
> 
> Is there some way to locally capture outgoing messages from both 
> accounts for comparison purposes?
> 
> Is there a way to print out all the settings for each account?

Your two accounts are probably using the same SMTP settings.

Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings...
Bottom option = Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Create the other setting, then make the account point to the
new setting.

Might be uselful:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
https://www.lifewire.com/pop-imap-smtp-traffic-thunderbird-1173156

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Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Richard Owlett]

I have two email accounts with my ISP.
I can receive mail on both accounts.
My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an old backup.

The error message is:
"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  From 
address must match authenticated address.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


Is there some way to locally capture outgoing messages from both 
accounts for comparison purposes?


Is there a way to print out all the settings for each account?

TIA

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Re: Emails don't go through

[NFN Smith]

Crystal Wacker Knapp wrote:

I compose emails in SeaMonkey. They are sent through my database,
Sumac, using centurylink server. Both Sumac and Century Link tech
support say that on their respective ends, all is correct and should
be sending and receiving emails accordingly; they say the problem
must be with Sea Monkey.

I have successfully used this system for a year. Until yesterday
emails were delivered. Now, only one-word "Testing" emails go
through.



For the messages that are being rejected, you need two critical pieces 
of information -- the exact error message of the rejection, and the ID 
of the server doing the rejection.


I've never heard of Sumac, and if it's primarily a database server, it's 
odd to use that as a Mail Transport Agent, although I suppose it may 
have a small MTA built in, as a way of facilitating outbound mail sent 
by stuff originating in a database.  However, even if you're the only 
user of that mail server, I would strongly discourage you from using 
that for any kind of general purpose use -- that is, mail that's not 
related to the database, especially stuff you compose in Seamonkey.


It's not clear if your use of Sumac is as a stand-alone SMTP client, or 
if it's configured to use CenturyLink as a smart host.


If you're down-line from CenturyLink, then I would encourage you to 
reconfigure your outbound mail settings so that they relay through 
CenturyLink's server. Although there may be reason for you to use Sumac 
as the outbound MTA for your database application, there's no reason for 
you to use that for mail that originates outside the database.


I did a quick lookup of Sumac, and the temptation of using its mail 
handling capacities bundled with your database package is attractive, 
but IMO, it's a mistake. Over a lot of years, I've worked in a similar 
database environment and run mail servers, as well, and I can tell you 
that expertise in one area doesn't really translate to the other. In 
this case, it's likely that Sumac's technical strengths are on the 
database side, and where they've figured out email enough to make things 
work (more or less), but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't have 
anybody who really has an in-depth knowledge of the mechanics of how 
email servers work.


In any case, using Sumac's MTA merely complicates troubleshooting of 
mail flow issues. It may be possible for you to reconfigure Sumac (and 
the supporting server) so that all outbound mail is submitted directly 
to CenturyLink's outbound mail server, and where you're not using any of 
the mail handling capacities provided by Sumac. If so, I urge you to get 
Sumac out of the equation, in the same way you need to have Seamonkey 
not trying to send through the Sumac server.


Without error reports from rejected messages, or the identity of 
servers, I can't tell where your problems are, but it's a good guess 
that the problem is related to your messages getting through the Sumac 
server. However, it's common that when these kinds of problems crop up, 
it's common for service vendors to claim that their stuff works, and 
point fingers at somebody else. And because Seamonkey isn't widely 
known, it's easy for both to blame Seamonkey.  In reality, it's doubtful 
that Seamonkey is the culprit (although not impossible). For the 
purposes of external support, you may be better off telling them that 
you're running Thunderbird, and not even mentioning Seamonkey -- at the 
level of SMTP exchange, they're pretty much identical, and the true 
differences at UI level should be entirely irrelevant to a mail service 
provider.


Seeing what Sumac is, I'd be curious to find out more about your 
organization. Feel free to contact me off-list. My posting address is valid.


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Re: Emails don't go through

[JAS]

Crystal Wacker Knapp wrote:

I compose emails in SeaMonkey.
They are sent through my database, Sumac, using centurylink server.
Both Sumac and Century Link tech support say that on their respective ends, all 
is correct and should be sending and receiving emails accordingly; they say the 
problem must be with Sea Monkey.

I have successfully used this system for a year. Until yesterday emails were delivered. 
Now, only one-word "Testing" emails go through.


Maybe the receiving party's mailbox is too full on their server??
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Re: Emails don't go through

[WaltS48]

On 02/15/2017 04:42 PM, Crystal Wacker Knapp wrote:

I compose emails in SeaMonkey.
They are sent through my database, Sumac, using centurylink server.
Both Sumac and Century Link tech support say that on their respective ends, all 
is correct and should be sending and receiving emails accordingly; they say the 
problem must be with Sea Monkey.

I have successfully used this system for a year. Until yesterday emails were delivered. 
Now, only one-word "Testing" emails go through.




What changed in SeaMonkey yesterday?

What changed on your system yesterday?

What operating system and version of SeaMonkey?

Does the same problem occur when running in safe mode?

<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode>

How do you run email through a database? What is Sumac?

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Emails don't go through

[Crystal Wacker Knapp]

I compose emails in SeaMonkey.
They are sent through my database, Sumac, using centurylink server.
Both Sumac and Century Link tech support say that on their respective ends, all 
is correct and should be sending and receiving emails accordingly; they say the 
problem must be with Sea Monkey.

I have successfully used this system for a year. Until yesterday emails were 
delivered. Now, only one-word "Testing" emails go through. 

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Re: emails will no longer download

[Luis Carlos González Moráles]

Maybee he's saying Altaba?

WaltS48 escribió:
> On 01/30/2017 03:56 PM, p...@wasatchrental.com wrote:
>> Since aabaco took over yahoo. seamonkey email app will no longer
>> download from my domain email account. Because I don't use internet
>> explorer, Seamonkey is greek to aabaco  tech support can not help
>> (Pat)
>>
>
> I thought Verizon was buying Yahoo?
>
> Who or what is aabaco?
>
> Maybe this thread from Jan. 19, 2017 will help.
>
> 
>
>

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Re: emails will no longer download

[WaltS48]

On 01/30/2017 03:56 PM, p...@wasatchrental.com wrote:

Since aabaco took over yahoo. seamonkey email app will no longer download from 
my domain email account. Because I don't use internet explorer, Seamonkey is 
greek to aabaco  tech support can not help
(Pat)



I thought Verizon was buying Yahoo?

Who or what is aabaco?

Maybe this thread from Jan. 19, 2017 will help.



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emails will no longer download

[pat]

Since aabaco took over yahoo. seamonkey email app will no longer download from 
my domain email account. Because I don't use internet explorer, Seamonkey is 
greek to aabaco  tech support can not help 
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Re: Merging saved emails from (MULTIPLE profiles) _AND_ (MULTIPLE machines) - What to read?

[Richard Owlett]

On 12/13/2016 11:37 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/13/2016 5:33 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 12/13/2016 1:00 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/12/2016 4:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I am currently using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro. I have always
used, and will continue to use) a POP Mail Server. Over the years
I've accumulated multiple profiles on multiple machines. ...
  I know I have duplicates. My major focus will be on
SeaMonkey 2.x files. ...

...

Do tools exist for this situation?
What should I be reading?
What would be productive keywords for web search?



Richard,

Try this add-on:

https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/importexporttools-en.html
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/

I'd definitely do a few test runs on backup test profiles before you try
on your work profiles.

Gary



Thank you. It does not address what I see as my key problem -
duplicated messages.

*HOWEVER* reading the feature list did break me out of the mental
rut I was in.
When I was looking at Tcl/Tk several years ago, I experimented
with some text manipulation routines. If I can find them, it may
prove useful.
Thanks again.



For duplicates:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Duplicate_messages_received
You can experiment with dupe addons:
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/remove-duplicate-messages/>
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/remove-duplicate-messages-alte/>
Re the last addon see: <http://removedupes.mozdev.org/>

Other articles that might be of help/interest:
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Migration>
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_Utilities>

If you also use linux you could try recoll.



The kb.mozillazine.org links provided two things I was looking 
for -- keywords AND links to references with more links.


One of the secondary links pointed to an approach similar enough 
to what I was planning to assure me that I wasn't out in left field.


The mention of recoll {http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/} is 
a gem!
That it is a Linux program is no problem as the timing of my 
initial post was the move from Windows to Debian ;)
It also solves, admittedly from a different direction, the 
problems that had me considering creating a relational database 
of emails.


Now I've got to work on something that I said would be done by 
the weekend.

Thanks.

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Re: Merging saved emails from (MULTIPLE profiles) _AND_ (MULTIPLE machines) - What to read?

[NoOp]

On 12/13/2016 5:33 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 12/13/2016 1:00 AM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 12/12/2016 4:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I am currently using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro. I have always
>>> used, and will continue to use) a POP Mail Server. Over the years
>>> I've accumulated multiple profiles on multiple machines. ...
>>>  I know I have duplicates. My major focus will be on
>>> SeaMonkey 2.x files. ...
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Do tools exist for this situation?
>>> What should I be reading?
>>> What would be productive keywords for web search?
>>>
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> Try this add-on:
>>
>> https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/importexporttools-en.html
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/
>>
>> I'd definitely do a few test runs on backup test profiles before you try
>> on your work profiles.
>>
>> Gary
>>
> 
> Thank you. It does not address what I see as my key problem - 
> duplicated messages.
> 
> *HOWEVER* reading the feature list did break me out of the mental 
> rut I was in.
> When I was looking at Tcl/Tk several years ago, I experimented 
> with some text manipulation routines. If I can find them, it may 
> prove useful.
> Thanks again.
> 

For duplicates:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Duplicate_messages_received
You can experiment with dupe addons:


Re the last addon see: 

Other articles that might be of help/interest:



If you also use linux you could try recoll.



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Re: Merging saved emails from (MULTIPLE profiles) _AND_ (MULTIPLE machines) - What to read?

[Gérard]

NoOp wrote on 12/13/2016 08:00 AM:

On 12/12/2016 4:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I am currently using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro. I have always
used, and will continue to use) a POP Mail Server. Over the years
I've accumulated multiple profiles on multiple machines. The
profiles have generally used the same fine structure as they were
usually created as " 'temporary' workarounds" for assorted
hardware/software problems. Toss in changing email providers as
well. I know I have duplicates. My major focus will be on
SeaMonkey 2.x files. [If things go well I might go as far back as
Netscape ;]

I have good experience with /imap/ and /seamonkey/.


There is no lack of temporary storage. I'm assuming there will be
a NEW profile to be the eventual recipient. Right now I'm dealing
with 2 machines, one with 5 profiles and one with 14 profiles.
There are some duplicate profile names in common.

Do tools exist for this situation?
What should I be reading?
What would be productive keywords for web search?

[For the future I'm considering creating a relational database of
some messages. As I've not used a data base since days of "dBase
II", that's not in the near future.]

Thank you.




Richard,

Try this add-on:

https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/importexporttools-en.html
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/

I'd definately do a few test runs on backup test profiles before you try
on your work profiles.

Gary




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Re: Merging saved emails from (MULTIPLE profiles) _AND_ (MULTIPLE machines) - What to read?

[Richard Owlett]

On 12/13/2016 1:00 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/12/2016 4:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I am currently using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro. I have always
used, and will continue to use) a POP Mail Server. Over the years
I've accumulated multiple profiles on multiple machines. ...
 I know I have duplicates. My major focus will be on
SeaMonkey 2.x files. ...

...

Do tools exist for this situation?
What should I be reading?
What would be productive keywords for web search?



Richard,

Try this add-on:

https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/importexporttools-en.html
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/

I'd definitely do a few test runs on backup test profiles before you try
on your work profiles.

Gary



Thank you. It does not address what I see as my key problem - 
duplicated messages.


*HOWEVER* reading the feature list did break me out of the mental 
rut I was in.
When I was looking at Tcl/Tk several years ago, I experimented 
with some text manipulation routines. If I can find them, it may 
prove useful.

Thanks again.

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Re: Merging saved emails from (MULTIPLE profiles) _AND_ (MULTIPLE machines) - What to read?

[NoOp]

On 12/12/2016 4:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I am currently using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro. I have always 
> used, and will continue to use) a POP Mail Server. Over the years 
> I've accumulated multiple profiles on multiple machines. The 
> profiles have generally used the same fine structure as they were 
> usually created as " 'temporary' workarounds" for assorted 
> hardware/software problems. Toss in changing email providers as 
> well. I know I have duplicates. My major focus will be on 
> SeaMonkey 2.x files. [If things go well I might go as far back as 
> Netscape ;]
> 
> There is no lack of temporary storage. I'm assuming there will be 
> a NEW profile to be the eventual recipient. Right now I'm dealing 
> with 2 machines, one with 5 profiles and one with 14 profiles. 
> There are some duplicate profile names in common.
> 
> Do tools exist for this situation?
> What should I be reading?
> What would be productive keywords for web search?
> 
> [For the future I'm considering creating a relational database of 
> some messages. As I've not used a data base since days of "dBase 
> II", that's not in the near future.]
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 

Richard,

Try this add-on:

https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/importexporttools-en.html
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/

I'd definately do a few test runs on backup test profiles before you try
on your work profiles.

Gary

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Merging saved emails from (MULTIPLE profiles) _AND_ (MULTIPLE machines) - What to read?

[Richard Owlett]

I am currently using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro. I have always 
used, and will continue to use) a POP Mail Server. Over the years 
I've accumulated multiple profiles on multiple machines. The 
profiles have generally used the same fine structure as they were 
usually created as " 'temporary' workarounds" for assorted 
hardware/software problems. Toss in changing email providers as 
well. I know I have duplicates. My major focus will be on 
SeaMonkey 2.x files. [If things go well I might go as far back as 
Netscape ;]


There is no lack of temporary storage. I'm assuming there will be 
a NEW profile to be the eventual recipient. Right now I'm dealing 
with 2 machines, one with 5 profiles and one with 14 profiles. 
There are some duplicate profile names in common.


Do tools exist for this situation?
What should I be reading?
What would be productive keywords for web search?

[For the future I'm considering creating a relational database of 
some messages. As I've not used a data base since days of "dBase 
II", that's not in the near future.]


Thank you.



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Re: Where are the SENT newsgroup messages. Like TBird keeps for eMails.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mozillian wrote:


I use Seamonkey for Newsgroups and TBird for eMails to keep the two
rascals apart so one function will not bog the other function down.

So where are the SENT messages?

When a message fails to get to the newsgroup it is now lost!
All that typing down the tubes.


With the cursor in the newsgroup folder, choose Edit | Mail & Newsgroups 
Account Settings... | Copies and Folders. Look under:


When sending messages
[x] Automatically place a copy in
(•) "Sent" folder on [Account name]
(o) Other folder: [Folder name]

This will tell you where to look. If you don't like what you see, make 
the appropriate changes.


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Re: Where are the SENT newsgroup messages. Like TBird keeps for eMails.

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-06-25 12:57 PM, Mozillian wrote:

I use Seamonkey for Newsgroups and TBird for eMails to keep the two
rascals apart so one function will not bog the other function down.

So where are the SENT messages?

When a message fails to get to the newsgroup it is now lost!
All that typing down the tubes.


There should be Sent folder in the Local Folders account. If in doubt, 
go to Account settings, and within the settings for your news server 
account, there should be a panel called "Copies & Folders". That will 
tell you where sent messages are saved.


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Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
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Where are the SENT newsgroup messages. Like TBird keeps for eMails.

[Mozillian]

I use Seamonkey for Newsgroups and TBird for eMails to keep the two 
rascals apart so one function will not bog the other function down.


So where are the SENT messages?

When a message fails to get to the newsgroup it is now lost!
All that typing down the tubes.
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