Re: Java no longer working in SM 2.14.1

2013-01-16 Thread David E. Ross 
On 1/16/13 12:15 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 1/16/13 8:17 AM, flyguy wrote:
>> This is on a XP sp 3 machine.
>>
>> Yesterday, I updated to the newest Java. It ran properly, asking me if I 
>> wanted to run applications each time. Later in day, I got "need a plugin 
>> to run this" messages, and discovered Java had magically disappeared 
>> from my machine according to the Add-on Manager. It was still in my 
>> programs folder, however. I quit for the day.
>>
>> Today, I reinstalled it; it shows in the Add-ons manager as "Java 
>> Deployment Toolkit 7.0.110.21"; it's enabled, but Java applications 
>> still say "need a plugin to run this".
>>
>> I removed Java, reinstalled, but nothing has changed. IE 8 uses Java 
>> without problems.
>>
>> How do I get SM to use Java?
>>
> 
> For both Java 7u10 and Java 7u11, I had a great difficulty getting a
> good installation.  After uninstalling the prior version, I had to
> search my hard drive for any remnants of Java and JRE that were not
> removed, being careful not to touch JavaScript.  Then I had to edit my
> Windows registry to remove all keys and values for Java and JRE, again
> being careful not to touch either JavaScript or things like "objres".
> Only then was I able to get a good installation.
> 
> It's damned annoying that, having cleaned everything for installing Java
> 7u10, I then had to do it again for Java 7u11.  I would not bother even
> having Java, but I need it for a Web-design tool that I occasionally
> use.  I also enjoy a Web game that uses it.
> 
> I reported this problem to Oracle a year ago relative to Java 7u10.
> Yesterday, I updated that report for Java 7u11.
> 

Oops!  While my description of my problems installing Java are correct,
my last sentence is wrong.  My first (and only) report was yesterday.  I
don't even think Java 7u10 existed a year ago.

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Re: Java no longer working in SM 2.14.1

2013-01-16 Thread David E. Ross 
On 1/16/13 8:17 AM, flyguy wrote:
> This is on a XP sp 3 machine.
> 
> Yesterday, I updated to the newest Java. It ran properly, asking me if I 
> wanted to run applications each time. Later in day, I got "need a plugin 
> to run this" messages, and discovered Java had magically disappeared 
> from my machine according to the Add-on Manager. It was still in my 
> programs folder, however. I quit for the day.
> 
> Today, I reinstalled it; it shows in the Add-ons manager as "Java 
> Deployment Toolkit 7.0.110.21"; it's enabled, but Java applications 
> still say "need a plugin to run this".
> 
> I removed Java, reinstalled, but nothing has changed. IE 8 uses Java 
> without problems.
> 
> How do I get SM to use Java?
> 

For both Java 7u10 and Java 7u11, I had a great difficulty getting a
good installation.  After uninstalling the prior version, I had to
search my hard drive for any remnants of Java and JRE that were not
removed, being careful not to touch JavaScript.  Then I had to edit my
Windows registry to remove all keys and values for Java and JRE, again
being careful not to touch either JavaScript or things like "objres".
Only then was I able to get a good installation.

It's damned annoying that, having cleaned everything for installing Java
7u10, I then had to do it again for Java 7u11.  I would not bother even
having Java, but I need it for a Web-design tool that I occasionally
use.  I also enjoy a Web game that uses it.

I reported this problem to Oracle a year ago relative to Java 7u10.
Yesterday, I updated that report for Java 7u11.

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Re: Java no longer working in SM 2.14.1

2013-01-16 Thread flyguy 

On 1/16/2013 9:49 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Isn't this to do with JavaFX ?  I removed my Java completely
yesterday after being warned by UAC that clicking on an e-mail link
in a PDF would cause Oracle's "ssvagent" to run.  Checking further, I
found that :


ssvagent is run when java detects registry is not correct and then
ssvagent tries to recover it.


The last think I want is Java message with my registry when I try to
send an e-mail.


Uninstall JavaFX

If the Java (TM) Platform plugin is no longer detected in your
Mozilla browser after updating to the latest Java 7 JRE (Java
Runtime Environment), this can be caused by an outdated JavaFX
installation, which prevents the Java plugin from being properly
registered. This issue has been reported after updating to Java 7
Update 10. To resolve, uninstall JavaFX from the Windows Control
Panel list of installed programs, as suggested in this java.com
help page. Note: JavaFX used to be bundled as a standalone program
that was automatically installed with earlier versions of the Java
7 JRE but is now included as part of the JRE. [40] [41] [42] [43]
[44]


Philip Taylor 

Larry S. wrote:


flyguy wrote:



How do I get SM to use Java?



Same problem here. It's there in Add/Remove Programs and Program
Files, but not in About Plug-ins or Add-on Manager/Plug-ins.
Applications (e.g. time.gov) say I need a plug-in. It all worked
before today's update.


Philip has the clue - it's JavaFx that's the issue. I found the problem 
resolution on the Java site:


http://www.java.com/en/download/help/firefox_java.xml

Following the instructions to remove javafx and java, running the MS 
uninstall utility, then running the installer file (same one that failed 
earlier) did the trick.

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Re: Java no longer working in SM 2.14.1

2013-01-16 Thread Philip TAYLOR 
Isn't this to do with JavaFX ?  I removed my Java completely
yesterday after being warned by UAC that clicking on an e-mail
link in a PDF would cause Oracle's "ssvagent" to run.  Checking
further, I found that :

> ssvagent is run when java detects registry is not correct and then ssvagent 
> tries to recover it.

The last think I want is Java message with my registry when I try
to send an e-mail.

> Uninstall JavaFX
> 
> If the Java (TM) Platform plugin is no longer detected in your Mozilla 
> browser after updating to the latest Java 7 JRE (Java Runtime Environment), 
> this can be caused by an outdated JavaFX installation, which prevents the 
> Java plugin from being properly registered. This issue has been reported 
> after updating to Java 7 Update 10. To resolve, uninstall JavaFX from the 
> Windows Control Panel list of installed programs, as suggested in this 
> java.com help page. Note: JavaFX used to be bundled as a standalone program 
> that was automatically installed with earlier versions of the Java 7 JRE but 
> is now included as part of the JRE. [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] 

Philip Taylor


Larry S. wrote:

> flyguy wrote:

>> How do I get SM to use Java?

> Same problem here. It's there in Add/Remove Programs and Program Files, but 
> not in About Plug-ins or Add-on Manager/Plug-ins.
> Applications (e.g. time.gov) say I need a plug-in. It all worked before 
> today's update.
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Re: Java no longer working in SM 2.14.1

2013-01-16 Thread Larry S. 

flyguy wrote:

This is on a XP sp 3 machine.

Yesterday, I updated to the newest Java. It ran properly, asking me if I
wanted to run applications each time. Later in day, I got "need a plugin
to run this" messages, and discovered Java had magically disappeared
from my machine according to the Add-on Manager. It was still in my
programs folder, however. I quit for the day.

Today, I reinstalled it; it shows in the Add-ons manager as "Java
Deployment Toolkit 7.0.110.21"; it's enabled, but Java applications
still say "need a plugin to run this".

I removed Java, reinstalled, but nothing has changed. IE 8 uses Java
without problems.

How do I get SM to use Java?
Same problem here. It's there in Add/Remove Programs and Program Files, 
but not in About Plug-ins or Add-on Manager/Plug-ins. Applications (e.g. 
time.gov) say I need a plug-in. It all worked before today's update.


Larry S.
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Java no longer working in SM 2.14.1

2013-01-16 Thread flyguy 

This is on a XP sp 3 machine.

Yesterday, I updated to the newest Java. It ran properly, asking me if I 
wanted to run applications each time. Later in day, I got "need a plugin 
to run this" messages, and discovered Java had magically disappeared 
from my machine according to the Add-on Manager. It was still in my 
programs folder, however. I quit for the day.


Today, I reinstalled it; it shows in the Add-ons manager as "Java 
Deployment Toolkit 7.0.110.21"; it's enabled, but Java applications 
still say "need a plugin to run this".


I removed Java, reinstalled, but nothing has changed. IE 8 uses Java 
without problems.


How do I get SM to use Java?
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