Modern Theme
Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ When in doubt assume that, once again, you've outsmarted yourself. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Ed Mullen pounded out : Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Hmm. Made a new profile. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. Obviously installing those themes changed something. And it didn't go away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager. Closed SM. Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile. Started SM. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. I find that pretty strange. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ If you were driving your car at the speed of light, and you turned on your headlights. Would anything happen? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Ed Mullen wrote: Ed Mullen pounded out : Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Hmm. Made a new profile. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. Obviously installing those themes changed something. And it didn't go away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager. Closed SM. Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile. Started SM. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. I find that pretty strange. I'd noticed that too...but I hadn't made a connection. Thanks for the fix! -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? I had that to happen to me after I tried that new Fangled Metal Line when I turned it on it was Black on Black with some blue. Worst than awful. After I switched back to my Orbits 3 +1 the sliders all had this rounded affect. There you to be a file you dump and would cure appearance screw-ups when you tried different Themes it was something RDF. One had to do it twice since I've used Communicator, Mozilla, SeaMonkey. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Original Message Ed Mullen pounded out : Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Hmm. Made a new profile. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. Obviously installing those themes changed something. And it didn't go away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager. Closed SM. Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile. Started SM. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. I find that pretty strange. The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension. Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Roger Fink wrote: Original Message Ed Mullen pounded out : Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Hmm. Made a new profile. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. Obviously installing those themes changed something. And it didn't go away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager. Closed SM. Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile. Started SM. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. I find that pretty strange. The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension. Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully. what is the name of this extension. Maybe they are try out apple's succomorphism (?) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
PhillipJones wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Original Message Ed Mullen pounded out : Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Hmm. Made a new profile. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. Obviously installing those themes changed something. And it didn't go away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager. Closed SM. Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile. Started SM. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. I find that pretty strange. The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension. Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully. what is the name of this extension. Maybe they are try out apple's succomorphism (?) I Found it was extension for that new Theme. I removed the theme and the extension and back to normal. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
PhillipJones wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Original Message Ed Mullen pounded out : Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Hmm. Made a new profile. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. Obviously installing those themes changed something. And it didn't go away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager. Closed SM. Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile. Started SM. Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to. I find that pretty strange. The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension. Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully. what is the name of this extension. Maybe they are try out apple's succomorphism (?) -- Vink home:http://ciudadpatricia.com User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 Q: Why did the astrophysicist order three hamburgers? A: Because he was hungry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. The only way to solve it was deleting the .xpi folders/files. VERY poor practice/design. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." - Charles McCabe ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 wrote: Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. On the Mac version these are hidden to an extent - they certainly didn't show up in my Add-on list...and they have/had random character .xpi names. I had to fish out the offenders by trial and error to get rid of them. So I have zero idea of just what they were, were doing...or what *else* they might have been doing. So beware - this is just one more way you can have your machine compromised! -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
On 06/23/2014 03:06 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. On the Mac version these are hidden to an extent - they certainly didn't show up in my Add-on list...and they have/had random character .xpi names. I had to fish out the offenders by trial and error to get rid of them. So I have zero idea of just what they were, were doing...or what *else* they might have been doing. So beware - this is just one more way you can have your machine compromised! So, maybe you should get involved, and notify the theme developer. The support link is on the AMO pages, and the mozillaZine post I linked to in my OP. -- Sponsored by Thunderbird 24.6.0 or 31.0b1 EQT Three Rivers Regatta - July 2-4, 2014 <http://www.threeriversregatta.net/> GO Bucs! GO USA! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. You should have noticed that with these two themes. Not to mention users should do that with all software. -- Sponsored by Thunderbird 24.6.0 or 31.0b1 EQT Three Rivers Regatta - July 2-4, 2014 <http://www.threeriversregatta.net/> GO Bucs! GO USA! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... No, and I have never seen that happen. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. On the Mac version these are hidden to an extent - they certainly didn't show up in my Add-on list...and they have/had random character .xpi names. I had to fish out the offenders by trial and error to get rid of them. So I have zero idea of just what they were, were doing...or what *else* they might have been doing. So beware - this is just one more way you can have your machine compromised! If you examine the content of the installer .xpi archive, you can see if there is another file in addition to the theme in there. I do see that, since I always change things in themes. I have yet to find a perfect theme. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
EE wrote: Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. On the Mac version these are hidden to an extent - they certainly didn't show up in my Add-on list...and they have/had random character .xpi names. I had to fish out the offenders by trial and error to get rid of them. So I have zero idea of just what they were, were doing...or what *else* they might have been doing. So beware - this is just one more way you can have your machine compromised! If you examine the content of the installer .xpi archive, you can see if there is another file in addition to the theme in there. I do see that, since I always change things in themes. I have yet to find a perfect theme. I don't have a .xpi archive with a Mac Profile...at least not one that I can determine. I managed to find the offending files in the Extensions Folder, but even then I had to do some scrounging as they had randomized file names. In fact, *most* of the filespecs in my Extensions Folder are randomized characters. Anyway, once I had the hint I managed to get rid of what I needed to to return appearances to normal. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 wrote: On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. You should have noticed that with these two themes. Not to mention users should do that with all software. ...I'll be noticing from now on, that's for sure...and I probably won't be installing any more Themes, seeing as how SM Modern suits my tastes just fine. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. You should have noticed that with these two themes. Not to mention users should do that with all software. NO! It's an official Mozilla site. The install purported to only install a theme, nothing else, and made no Mention of the theme breaking/modifying a standard Mozilla build. But it did. BAD!!! Bad on the author's part and bad on Mozilla's part. And, frankly, stupid on both their parts. Is this enough bad publicity for both of them? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 pounded out : Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh I expected to only install what the mozilla.addons told me I was installing. And, as far as I can tell, that is only what was installed. The author of this extension/theme needs to fix his mess. And, while, the addons.mozilla pages state a caution that mozilla has not reviewd the extension, Mozilla needs to adjust its policies. This is totally unaccepable that something hosted on Mozilla breaks a basic Mozilla sw build. The extension should NOT be hosted at an official Mozilla site. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
On 06/23/2014 08:51 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh I expected to only install what the mozilla.addons told me I was installing. And, as far as I can tell, that is only what was installed. Well, I guess you are as blind as a bat if you can't see the two items in each screen shot I posted links for, that mozilla.addons told me I would be installing. Probably didn't look at them. How about taking one so we can see what you were offered to install. The author of this extension/theme needs to fix his mess. So tell him on his support site. And, while, the addons.mozilla pages state a caution that mozilla has not reviewd the extension, Mozilla needs to adjust its policies. This is totally unaccepable that something hosted on Mozilla breaks a basic Mozilla sw build. The extension should NOT be hosted at an official Mozilla site. All themes change the default theme of SeaMonkey, Firefox or Thunderbird, because the developer didn't like the default themes. The Modern theme in SeaMonkey changes the default theme. -- Sponsored by Thunderbird 24.6.0 or 31.0b1 EQT Three Rivers Regatta - July 2-4, 2014 <http://www.threeriversregatta.net/> GO Bucs! GO USA! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
On 06/23/2014 08:55 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. You should have noticed that with these two themes. Not to mention users should do that with all software. NO! It's an official Mozilla site. The install purported to only install a theme, nothing else, and made no Mention of the theme breaking/modifying a standard Mozilla build. But it did. BAD!!! Bad on the author's part and bad on Mozilla's part. What did my two screen shots show? The theme and the scroll bars. You really don't understand themes. Do you? SeaMonkey Modern modifies the standard default theme. Some would say it breaks it. And, frankly, stupid on both their parts. Is this enough bad publicity for both of them? I see no bad publicity, just a user that doesn't understand themes and didn't pay attention to what they were installing. -- Sponsored by Thunderbird 24.6.0 or 31.0b1 EQT Three Rivers Regatta - July 2-4, 2014 <http://www.threeriversregatta.net/> GO Bucs! GO USA! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 08:55 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. You should have noticed that with these two themes. Not to mention users should do that with all software. NO! It's an official Mozilla site. The install purported to only install a theme, nothing else, and made no Mention of the theme breaking/modifying a standard Mozilla build. But it did. BAD!!! Bad on the author's part and bad on Mozilla's part. What did my two screen shots show? The theme and the scroll bars. You really don't understand themes. Do you? SeaMonkey Modern modifies the standard default theme. Some would say it breaks it. And, frankly, stupid on both their parts. Is this enough bad publicity for both of them? I see no bad publicity, just a user that doesn't understand themes and didn't pay attention to what they were installing. Walt, you apparently aren't reading what I'm writing, and have not directly replied to what I've written so I'm going to ignore you from now on. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
On 06/23/2014 09:22 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 08:55 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. You should have noticed that with these two themes. Not to mention users should do that with all software. NO! It's an official Mozilla site. The install purported to only install a theme, nothing else, and made no Mention of the theme breaking/modifying a standard Mozilla build. But it did. BAD!!! Bad on the author's part and bad on Mozilla's part. What did my two screen shots show? The theme and the scroll bars. You really don't understand themes. Do you? SeaMonkey Modern modifies the standard default theme. Some would say it breaks it. And, frankly, stupid on both their parts. Is this enough bad publicity for both of them? I see no bad publicity, just a user that doesn't understand themes and didn't pay attention to what they were installing. Walt, you apparently aren't reading what I'm writing, and have not directly replied to what I've written so I'm going to ignore you from now on. I'm reading it, and you aren't reading what I am writing. So OK we will ignore each other. Still sorry you don't get it. -- Sponsored by Thunderbird 24.6.0 or 31.0b1 EQT Three Rivers Regatta - July 2-4, 2014 <http://www.threeriversregatta.net/> GO Bucs! GO USA! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. On the Mac version these are hidden to an extent - they certainly didn't show up in my Add-on list...and they have/had random character .xpi names. I had to fish out the offenders by trial and error to get rid of them. So I have zero idea of just what they were, were doing...or what *else* they might have been doing. So beware - this is just one more way you can have your machine compromised! If you examine the content of the installer .xpi archive, you can see if there is another file in addition to the theme in there. I do see that, since I always change things in themes. I have yet to find a perfect theme. I don't have a .xpi archive with a Mac Profile...at least not one that I can determine. I managed to find the offending files in the Extensions Folder, but even then I had to do some scrounging as they had randomized file names. In fact, *most* of the filespecs in my Extensions Folder are randomized characters. Anyway, once I had the hint I managed to get rid of what I needed to to return appearances to normal. The installers are .xpi files. I download the installers and then tweak the themes before installing them. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme
WaltS48 wrote: On 06/23/2014 09:22 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 08:55 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : Rufus wrote: EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I may be losing my mind. I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey" I removed them. I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different. Notice the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots: <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg> <http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg> Umm, have they looked like that before? Or did temporarily installing those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme? Or am I just losing it? Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars. ...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one. Now I'm *really* suspicious... They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme. Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons? Looking at the Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Scrollbars II. I like the Silver theme best. Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension. I went to the Mozillazine artice cited in the OP. There I clicked the two links: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-silver-sea-monkey/> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/metal-lion-sea-monkey/> Each points to a Mozilla add-ons page where I clicked the "Add to SeaMonkey" buttons. The only new things that showed up in my Add-ons Manager were those two themes. When I Removed them in Add-ons Manager their .xpi folders/files remained behind, causing the issue I first cited. Interesting. There were no Scrollbars extensions shown and zero indication that something that modifies the Modern theme was going to be installed. This is what I see when I click "Add to SeaMonkey" for the Metal Lion Silver theme. Note I can choose to Cancel or Install Now. http://imgur.com/KkHJNKn For the Metal Lion Theme. http://imgur.com/feuzkAJ Sorry if you didn't see that there is a Scrollbars extension for each theme. You were installing a complete theme, not a lightweight theme, and you expected it to not change your Modern theme? smdh *Yes* and *YES* - I expect all Themes to be self contained...one of them should not have any effect on any of the others. From now on I'll be watching for ones that install anything outside of themselves. You should have noticed that with these two themes. Not to mention users should do that with all software. NO! It's an official Mozilla site. The install purported to only install a theme, nothing else, and made no Mention of the theme breaking/modifying a standard Mozilla build. But it did. BAD!!! Bad on the author's part and bad on Mozilla's part. What did my two screen shots show? The theme and the scroll bars. You really don't understand themes. Do you? SeaMonkey Modern modifies the standard default theme. Some would say it breaks it. And, frankly, stupid on both their parts. Is this enough bad publicity for both of them? I see no bad publicity, just a user that doesn't understand themes and didn't pay attention to what they were installing. Walt, you apparently aren't reading what I'm writing, and have not directly replied to what I've written so I'm going to ignore you from now on. I'm reading it, and you aren't reading what I am writing. So OK we will ignore each other. Still sorry you don't get it. Are you not aware that you can right-click that install button and choose save? You can then open the archive that downloaded and see what is inside. You can also extract things, alter and put them back in if you want. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Modern Theme in 2.6.1
On my Win 7 machine SM 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my XP laptop 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my wife's XP system SM 2.6.1 tells me the Modern Theme is incompatible with 2.6.1. Huh? The install.rdf files in the modern xpi are identical. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Confidence is the feeling you have before you really understand the problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme in 2.6.1
My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on 12/26/2011 6:45 PM: On my Win 7 machine SM 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my XP laptop 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my wife's XP system SM 2.6.1 tells me the Modern Theme is incompatible with 2.6.1. Huh? The install.rdf files in the modern xpi are identical. Is it able to be removed via the Add-ons screen? If so, it may have some how been manually installed from the previous version 2.6.0. You could try removing it and restarting to see if the intrinsic 2.6.1 theme is there afterward. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme in 2.6.1
Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on 12/26/2011 6:45 PM: On my Win 7 machine SM 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my XP laptop 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my wife's XP system SM 2.6.1 tells me the Modern Theme is incompatible with 2.6.1. Huh? The install.rdf files in the modern xpi are identical. Is it able to be removed via the Add-ons screen? If so, it may have some how been manually installed from the previous version 2.6.0. You could try removing it and restarting to see if the intrinsic 2.6.1 theme is there afterward. Thanks, that did the trick. ;-) -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Why does a cowboy have two spurs? If one side of the horse goes, so does the other. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Modern Theme in 2.6.1
My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on 12/27/2011 8:33 AM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on 12/26/2011 6:45 PM: On my Win 7 machine SM 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my XP laptop 2.6.1 is using the Modern Theme. On my wife's XP system SM 2.6.1 tells me the Modern Theme is incompatible with 2.6.1. Huh? The install.rdf files in the modern xpi are identical. Is it able to be removed via the Add-ons screen? If so, it may have some how been manually installed from the previous version 2.6.0. You could try removing it and restarting to see if the intrinsic 2.6.1 theme is there afterward. Thanks, that did the trick. ;-) yw, cheers! -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.15 - SM Modern Theme Dropdowns...
...are still partially/incompletely drawn. I think there was a bug written already, right? -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Help Wanted for Modern Theme Improvements
The "Modern" theme in SeaMonkey 2 needs your help: We have a bug on file for updating the Modern theme for SeaMonkey 2.0 (<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=456757>), and we even have some good work from AKIHIRO Misaki (a.k.a Kuden), who volunteered in mozillaZine forums (<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=748735>) to help with theme design in the missing areas. So, this sounds like success? Well, almost. As you might know, the only way to get changes into the Mozilla repositories is by doing patches, getting reviews and addressing the review comments. And that's where we're stuck right now: We need someone to take Kuden's work, bring it up as patches, submit those for review and address review comments coming up. Ideally, this would be someone who uses Modern and has some knowledge of CSS and theme work as well as our review process. The work to be done is basically picking up existing pieces and driving them into the tree. Sounds easy? Might be something for you! Even if you don't know the review process that well, as long as you know or are able to learn how to create patches and you are able to address requests for changes in theme CSS, you should be able to help. Please contact us if you can give us a hand with this and make Modern fit for the future! Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.15 - SM Modern Theme Dropdowns...
Rufus wrote: ...are still partially/incompletely drawn. I think there was a bug written already, right? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812050 -- Rich(Pull thorn from address to e-mail me.) SeaMonkey - Surfing the net has never been so suite! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.15 - SM Modern Theme Dropdowns...
Rich Gray wrote: Rufus wrote: ...are still partially/incompletely drawn. I think there was a bug written already, right? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812050 Thought so. Very annoying...hope it's fixed ASAP. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
I really think that some of the personas would look good with the SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? -- WaltS using Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.8.5 SeaMonkey Release Free Pussy Riot! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Has Ed been barred?? (was: Re: Modern Theme)
On 24/06/14 11:32, WaltS48 wrote: On 06/23/2014 09:22 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 08:55 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 pounded out : On 06/23/2014 03:09 PM, Rufus wrote: Has Ed Mullen been banned from m.s.seamonkey?? Looking at the quote lines (whatever they're called) that I've left above Rufus replied WaltS48 replied Ed Mullen replied WaltS48 replied Ed Mullen replied WaltS48 replied and now I've replied but in my Threads Pane, I see Rufus replied WaltS48 replied (Rufus replied in a separate sub-Thread) WaltS48 replied WaltS48 replied and now I've replied!! So is Ed now being deleted from m.s.seamonkey?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140415200419 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140408191805 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote: > I really think that some of the personas would look good with the > SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. > > Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme. Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the Persona will show through. Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
On 08/18/2012 01:23 PM, Philip Chee wrote: > On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote: >> I really think that some of the personas would look good with the >> SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. >> >> Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? > > There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme. > Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension > but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include > fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme > Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a > Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via > Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the > Persona will show through. > > Phil > Thanks for the reply. I may look into this further. Smooth Slate isn't too bad with the Default theme. -- WaltS using Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.8.5 Thunderbird Beta Free Pussy Riot! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
My bloviated meandering follows what Philip Chee graced us with on 8/18/2012 10:23 AM: On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote: I really think that some of the personas would look good with the SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme. Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the Persona will show through. Persona Switcher should work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightweight-theme-switcher -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
On 08/18/2012 03:11 PM, Sailfish wrote: > My bloviated meandering follows what Philip Chee graced us with on > 8/18/2012 10:23 AM: >> On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote: >>> I really think that some of the personas would look good with the >>> SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. >>> >>> Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? >> >> There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme. >> Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension >> but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include >> fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme >> Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a >> Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via >> Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the >> Persona will show through. >> > Persona Switcher should work: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightweight-theme-switcher > Thanks! I'll play with it, and see if I can get it to work, since it is "Not available for Firefox 2.11". -- WaltS using Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.8.5 Thunderbird Beta Free Pussy Riot! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
My bloviated meandering follows what WLS graced us with on 8/18/2012 1:00 PM: On 08/18/2012 03:11 PM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Philip Chee graced us with on 8/18/2012 10:23 AM: On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote: I really think that some of the personas would look good with the SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme. Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the Persona will show through. Persona Switcher should work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightweight-theme-switcher Thanks! I'll play with it, and see if I can get it to work, since it is "Not available for Firefox 2.11". Fx 2.11? I thought you were using Seamonkey? Also, are you really still using Fx 2.11? :) -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
Interviewed by CNN on 18/08/2012 17:00, WLS told the world: > On 08/18/2012 03:11 PM, Sailfish wrote: >> My bloviated meandering follows what Philip Chee graced us with on >> 8/18/2012 10:23 AM: >>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote: >>>> I really think that some of the personas would look good with the >>>> SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. >>>> >>>> Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? >>> >>> There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme. >>> Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension >>> but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include >>> fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme >>> Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a >>> Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via >>> Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the >>> Persona will show through. >>> >> Persona Switcher should work: >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightweight-theme-switcher >> > > Thanks! I'll play with it, and see if I can get it to work, since it is > "Not available for Firefox 2.11". > It is tagged as compatible with SM, only Sailfish gave you the Firefox URL. The SM URL is this: <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightweight-theme-switcher/> Note that the only difference is the replacement of "firefox" with "seamonkey" in the path name... I have to do this all the time when I get a link to an interesting add-on. If it's not tagged as "Seamonkey Compatible" you will usually be redirected back to the Firefox page. By the way, I'm using the Persona Switcher for a few weeks now, but I never tried to use it with a different base theme... I'll have to experiment with it a bit now -- perhaps some third-party theme combined with a Persona will yield interesting results? -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Xerox Star. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.11 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together
My bloviated meandering follows what MCBastos graced us with on 8/18/2012 1:55 PM: Interviewed by CNN on 18/08/2012 17:00, WLS told the world: On 08/18/2012 03:11 PM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Philip Chee graced us with on 8/18/2012 10:23 AM: On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote: I really think that some of the personas would look good with the SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme. Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme? There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme. Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the Persona will show through. Persona Switcher should work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightweight-theme-switcher Thanks! I'll play with it, and see if I can get it to work, since it is "Not available for Firefox 2.11". It is tagged as compatible with SM, only Sailfish gave you the Firefox URL. The SM URL is this: Opps, my bad! :) [snip /] -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Modern Theme causes SeaMonkey on Linux to run faster
I have SeaMonkey (i686 Linux) running on a 32-bit desktop with an AMD Athlon CPU (600 MHz), 512Mb RAM on Debian 6.0.7 (Squeeze). When I used SeaMonkey with the Classic Theme, I noticed that it would run a bit slow on this hardware and thought that it might be graphics-related. The system is using a custom xorg.conf file, because the graphics default to 16-bit color without that file, it has an S3 Savage 4 AGP card and the xorg.conf file forces it to use 24-bit color, which is supported by the chip. Then when I switched SeaMonkey to use the Modern Theme, it began to noticeably run faster. Is there something that one theme does that the other theme does not, graphics-wise? Just curious. Thanks in advance. -- Edward ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Did SM v2.53.1 remove its column sort arrows? Modern theme was the cause.
On 3/1/2020 10:19 PM, Ant wrote: On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: Ant wrote: On 3/1/2020 5:40 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Ant wrote: They used to be there in v2.49.5 and earlier. :( I just discovered that they appear when you click on the column. HTH Not in my v2.53.1. :( I see the arrows. I am running the MacOS version of SeaMonkey 2.53.1. WFM. Interesting. I still see the missing arrows after I downloaded and upgraded an old SM v2.49.5 to v2.53.1 with https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.1/mac/en-US/seamonkey-2.53.1.en-US.mac.dmg in updated mac OS Mojave v10.14.6. :( OK. I figured out what was causing it. "SeaMonkey Modern" theme. Default showed the arrows just fine. I'll update my bug report about this. -- "Are you slower than an ant?" --Sai Yuk from The Legend of Fong Sai Yuk movie (English subtitles) Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Did SM v2.53.1 remove its column sort arrows? Modern theme was the cause.
Ant wrote: On 3/1/2020 10:19 PM, Ant wrote: On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: Ant wrote: On 3/1/2020 5:40 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Ant wrote: They used to be there in v2.49.5 and earlier. :( I just discovered that they appear when you click on the column. HTH Not in my v2.53.1. :( I see the arrows. I am running the MacOS version of SeaMonkey 2.53.1. WFM. Interesting. I still see the missing arrows after I downloaded and upgraded an old SM v2.49.5 to v2.53.1 with https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.1/mac/en-US/seamonkey-2.53.1.en-US.mac.dmg in updated mac OS Mojave v10.14.6. :( OK. I figured out what was causing it. "SeaMonkey Modern" theme. Default showed the arrows just fine. I'll update my bug report about this. Confirmed and edited your bug report. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Did SM v2.53.1 remove its column sort arrows? Modern theme was the cause.
On 3/2/2020 7:23 PM, WaltS48 wrote: ... OK. I figured out what was causing it. "SeaMonkey Modern" theme. Default showed the arrows just fine. I'll update my bug report about this. Confirmed and edited your bug report. Thanks. :) -- "Everything tastes better at a picnic... the ants, the sand, everything." --unknown Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
