Re: Auto-Update "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey..."
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: My recollection is 2.35, but either way, the point is you have to install one update manually to get past the certificate issue, and from then on auto updates will work again. I was able to visit over the holidays, and the new SM is now installed and working. It turns out that it could have been done without admin rights anyway; I must have originally installed it "per user" and that's why the updates had been working for over five years. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto-Update "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey..."
Edmund Wong wrote: Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, I don't fully understand the cause of the issue (client cert, server cert, string mismatch), but I did notice some about:config values in my own correctly updated 2.38 version. I wonder if they change app.update.cert.requireBuiltIn true -> false would it allow them to get past the error and receive the new version? The basic issue is that around 2.38b1 (iirc), we had changed certs, so anything < 2.38b1 won't be able to upgrade to the latest version and will require a full download and install. So while 2.38 -> 2.39 works, 2.x -> 2.38+ (where x <38) won't update. My recollection is 2.35, but either way, the point is you have to install one update manually to get past the certificate issue, and from then on auto updates will work again. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto-Update "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey..."
Gerry Hickman wrote: > Hi, > > I don't fully understand the cause of the issue (client cert, server > cert, string mismatch), but I did notice some about:config values in my > own correctly updated 2.38 version. > > I wonder if they change > app.update.cert.requireBuiltIn > true -> false > would it allow them to get past the error and receive the new version? The basic issue is that around 2.38b1 (iirc), we had changed certs, so anything < 2.38b1 won't be able to upgrade to the latest version and will require a full download and install. So while 2.38 -> 2.39 works, 2.x -> 2.38+ (where x <38) won't update. Edmund ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Mike C wrote: EE wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? Use it in the sidebar. That is sorted correctly. By sidebar do you mean he left window where the folders are? Or something else? The sidebar opens in the browser window. I have to open it by pressing Option plus either Page Up or Page Down, but with Windows you can open it with F9. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Original Message *Subject: *Re: Auto Update *From: *Mike C rp...@earthlink.net *To: * *Date: *Fri Sep 26 2014 01:38:34 GMT+0200 (CEST) Ed Mullen wrote: EE wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? Use it in the sidebar. That is sorted correctly. Click the email column to sort by that. Then click the Name column. No idea how this got screwed up in an update. Hey Ed, Thanks for the post. BUT Clicking name at top of column doesn't fix it. However... If I sort by email column AND THEN resort by name it goes correct. BUT... the next time address book is opened it's back to being incorrect. (This is with both 2.29 and 2.29.1) I am aware that if I go back to 2.26 all will be well again. Not important enough to do that. It's not so serious, just inconvenient. For this issue and Gosthery unsupport in SM 2.29, I back to SM 2.26.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? In my 2.26.1 and all previous versions, the address book has been sortable -- click on a column title (e.g., Name) to sort by that parameter, click it again to reverse the order. Does that not work for you? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
stan wrote: Michael Speier wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 I think it is better to upgrade your Windows XP before downgrade your SeaMonkey! So are you saying that if I want to continue using SM that I must upgrade to Windows 7 or 8? Maybe one day when the development environment will be upgraded (probably by the Firefox people) this will be needed anyway. I guess Michael wanted to tell you that the security holes (well known!) in XP are MUCH bigger problems than your seamonkey problems. And they NEVER will be fixed! Just my 2cc, Mycroft -- There's another way to survive. Mutual trust -- and help. -- Kirk, Day of the Dove, stardate unknown ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? Use it in the sidebar. That is sorted correctly. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
EE wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? Use it in the sidebar. That is sorted correctly. By sidebar do you mean he left window where the folders are? Or something else? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
EE wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? Use it in the sidebar. That is sorted correctly. Click the email column to sort by that. Then click the Name column. No idea how this got screwed up in an update. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? In my 2.26.1 and all previous versions, the address book has been sortable -- click on a column title (e.g., Name) to sort by that parameter, click it again to reverse the order. Does that not work for you? Doesn't work in 2.29 or 2.29.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Ed Mullen wrote: EE wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? Use it in the sidebar. That is sorted correctly. Click the email column to sort by that. Then click the Name column. No idea how this got screwed up in an update. Hey Ed, Thanks for the post. BUT Clicking name at top of column doesn't fix it. However... If I sort by email column AND THEN resort by name it goes correct. BUT... the next time address book is opened it's back to being incorrect. (This is with both 2.29 and 2.29.1) I am aware that if I go back to 2.26 all will be well again. Not important enough to do that. It's not so serious, just inconvenient. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Mike C wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: EE wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? Use it in the sidebar. That is sorted correctly. Click the email column to sort by that. Then click the Name column. No idea how this got screwed up in an update. Hey Ed, Thanks for the post. BUT Clicking name at top of column doesn't fix it. However... If I sort by email column AND THEN resort by name it goes correct. BUT... the next time address book is opened it's back to being incorrect. (This is with both 2.29 and 2.29.1) I am aware that if I go back to 2.26 all will be well again. Not important enough to do that. It's not so serious, just inconvenient. Well, that is what I said to do. I agree, the fix does not hold from instance to instance SM. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
On 09/25/2014 04:26 PM, Mike C wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Mike C wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? In my 2.26.1 and all previous versions, the address book has been sortable -- click on a column title (e.g., Name) to sort by that parameter, click it again to reverse the order. Does that not work for you? Doesn't work in 2.29 or 2.29.1 Works for me. User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29.1 Build identifier: 20140923221706 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
WaltS48 wrote: On 09/23/2014 07:27 PM, stan wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false Well I cant logo into Tools Password Manager it crashes Also it crashes if I want to use this forum. To me that is BAD. -Stan What does Tools Password Manager have to do with auto updates? Nothing! Disabling auto update prevents loading of SM2.29 and I want to run SM2.26 until these bugs will be fixed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
On 09/24/2014 09:40 AM, stan wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 09/23/2014 07:27 PM, stan wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false Well I cant logo into Tools Password Manager it crashes Also it crashes if I want to use this forum. To me that is BAD. -Stan What does Tools Password Manager have to do with auto updates? Nothing! Disabling auto update prevents loading of SM2.29 and I want to run SM2.26 until these bugs will be fixed. Just saw on the mozillaZine forums that a SM 2.29.1 is imminent. [1072088 – (SM2.29.1) Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.29.1](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072088) -- Sponsored by Firefox 33.0b6 and Thunderbird 31.1.1 GO Bucs, Steelers, Pitt, Pens, Bills and Sabres! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 I think it is better to upgrade your Windows XP before downgrade your SeaMonkey! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
stan wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false Well I cant logo into Tools Password Manager it crashes Also it crashes if I want to use this forum. To me that is BAD. -Stan Those must be Windows problems only. I use Mac OS and I can open the data manager without having any crashes, and this newsgroup is not posing any problem either. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
Michael Speier wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 I think it is better to upgrade your Windows XP before downgrade your SeaMonkey! So are you saying that if I want to continue using SM that I must upgrade to Windows 7 or 8? That would be pretty stupid. It would only make several Billon$ for Microsoft. -Stan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical. Has anyone figured out how to correct it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false Or you can do it the safe/easy way through the user interface: Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation ... SeaMonkey: [x] Automatically check for updates ( ) daily (•) weekly [ ] Automatically download and install the update If you uncheck the second box, you'll get nagged once a week but SM won't install anything without permission. If you uncheck both boxes, SM will never check and never nag (and obviously, never install anything). You can still check manually via Help | Check for Updates. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false Well I cant logo into Tools Password Manager it crashes Also it crashes if I want to use this forum. To me that is BAD. -Stan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto Update
On 09/23/2014 07:27 PM, stan wrote: EE wrote: stan wrote: How can I suppress Auto Update for SM? The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26 -Stan I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them. The address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can import them. To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and change these settings: app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false Well I cant logo into Tools Password Manager it crashes Also it crashes if I want to use this forum. To me that is BAD. -Stan What does Tools Password Manager have to do with auto updates? -- Sponsored by Firefox 33.0b6 and Thunderbird 31.1.1 GO Bucs, Steelers, Pitt, Pens, Bills and Sabres! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto-update language packs
Francesco Presel wrote: I'm currently using the Linux 64-bit experimental build, only available in English, which means I must use a language pack in order to localize seamonkey. Every time I update Seamonkey, the language pack is not automatically updated, and the old, now incompatible version remains. So, every time I update SM, I have to manually download and install again the language pack, for every single user and profile I have on this computer, and sometimes I even have to reactivate and set again the default language. It would be nice if, like every other addon (like Lightning, which always needs to be updated after every SM update), it was automatically updated (eg, when I update SM to 2.11 every language pack I have is updated to 2.11). I haven't found any other report of this; is there a better place to report this? TIA Francesco, your suggestion about getting the updated language pack at the same time as SM is update is a good one, but, as I understand it, the language packs are not made by the SeaMonkey Council, but rather by individuals who need the packs and they then release it to the Council for others, such as yourself, to use. So once the new version of SM is released, it takes some time (a couple of days, maybe) for the other packs to become available. One option might be to download the language pack to your hard drive and then copy it to a flash drive for coping to the other computers and install from the hard drive. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
