Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: flyguy wrote: if you'd read his message... you'd know he already tried compact... Did he compact the Trash folder? I wasn't sure from his description if he'd done that. In every version of SeaMonkey I've ever had, telling the program to compact folders has resulted in compaction of all folders within the selected account, including Trash. But I suppose if he has it set up to direct deletions to Trash in a different account, compacting the source account would not affect that Trash folder. I see that you can now right-click a folder and tell the program to compact this folder, but that's new to me. I've always just done File | Compact Folders and gotten them all in one pass. I was astonished to read Justin's statement that compacting folders could take as long as an hour. In my experience, it's never taken more than about five minutes, and it usually takes less than two. And I'm not working with some ultrafast multi-CPU machine, but I do have folders with thousands of messages. It's my understanding that the process can be more effective if you File-Empty Trash before you Compact Folders. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Daniel wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: flyguy wrote: if you'd read his message... you'd know he already tried compact... Did he compact the Trash folder? I wasn't sure from his description if he'd done that. In every version of SeaMonkey I've ever had, telling the program to compact folders has resulted in compaction of all folders within the selected account, including Trash. But I suppose if he has it set up to direct deletions to Trash in a different account, compacting the source account would not affect that Trash folder. I see that you can now right-click a folder and tell the program to compact this folder, but that's new to me. I've always just done File | Compact Folders and gotten them all in one pass. I was astonished to read Justin's statement that compacting folders could take as long as an hour. In my experience, it's never taken more than about five minutes, and it usually takes less than two. And I'm not working with some ultrafast multi-CPU machine, but I do have folders with thousands of messages. It's my understanding that the process can be more effective if you File-Empty Trash before you Compact Folders. Went ahead and compacted all folders one at a time again. This is the 3rd time I did this. The first time I just did FileCompact folders. The second time I did them individually. (Right click, compact folder). The 3rd time I did them individually again. I do not know why compacting the folders the previous 2 times did not fix the problem. I am pretty sure the trash folder was the problem. Emails now delete properly. Thanks for all your suggestions because they were helpful in the event I missed something. Bernie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I was astonished to read Justin's statement that compacting folders could take as long as an hour. In my experience, it's never taken more than about five minutes, and it usually takes less than two. And I'm not working with some ultrafast multi-CPU machine, but I do have folders with thousands of messages. In one account, a while ago, I had over 40k mails (many due to innordinate spam, and never really caring to actually filter it). Lets just say, that I had deleted a good number of spam (or moved it in some cases, if I found it humorous in the first place), as well as being subscribed to many mailing lists, that I also had filters set to move to different folders. Lets just say that my compacting took about 49 minutes. It also wasn't the fastest HD/CPU at the time, but that was an extreme case. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 8/18/2011 1:06 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie Bernie, Can you try Compact on the folders you are experiencing this issue in, (right click on the folder in the folder-list, and select the Compact entry) The action of compacting can take a while depending on many factors, size of the message database being one of them. So even if SeaMonkey seems to freeze when you do that, allow it to continue running, (I'd say, max 1 hour should be sufficient even on slow computers) After that, restart seamonkey (and even your computer) to get the memory use flushed, for certain, and then try again, let us know if this helps your situation. if you'd read his message... you'd know he already tried compact... -- Only the dead will know the end of the war. ~ Plato courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
On 8/19/2011 1:05 PM, sean nathan bean wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 8/18/2011 1:06 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie Bernie, Can you try Compact on the folders you are experiencing this issue in, (right click on the folder in the folder-list, and select the Compact entry) The action of compacting can take a while depending on many factors, size of the message database being one of them. So even if SeaMonkey seems to freeze when you do that, allow it to continue running, (I'd say, max 1 hour should be sufficient even on slow computers) After that, restart seamonkey (and even your computer) to get the memory use flushed, for certain, and then try again, let us know if this helps your situation. if you'd read his message... you'd know he already tried compact... Did he compact the Trash folder? I wasn't sure from his description if he'd done that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
flyguy wrote: if you'd read his message... you'd know he already tried compact... Did he compact the Trash folder? I wasn't sure from his description if he'd done that. In every version of SeaMonkey I've ever had, telling the program to compact folders has resulted in compaction of all folders within the selected account, including Trash. But I suppose if he has it set up to direct deletions to Trash in a different account, compacting the source account would not affect that Trash folder. I see that you can now right-click a folder and tell the program to compact this folder, but that's new to me. I've always just done File | Compact Folders and gotten them all in one pass. I was astonished to read Justin's statement that compacting folders could take as long as an hour. In my experience, it's never taken more than about five minutes, and it usually takes less than two. And I'm not working with some ultrafast multi-CPU machine, but I do have folders with thousands of messages. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
I just wrote: I was astonished to read Justin's statement that compacting folders could take as long as an hour. In my experience, it's never taken more than about five minutes, and it usually takes less than two. And I'm not working with some ultrafast multi-CPU machine, but I do have folders with thousands of messages. Confirmed. I just compacted all folders in all three of my mail accounts within a single profile (2.9 GB of content), and it took under two minutes. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie But why would anyone want to delete their email messages one at a time, especially since this will be so slow? Anyway 2.4 is not far away, and maybe the developers will schedule a return to the faster execution, as an improvement, in a future release. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie But why would anyone want to delete their email messages one at a time, especially since this will be so slow? Anyway 2.4 is not far away, and maybe the developers will schedule a return to the faster execution, as an improvement, in a future release. In the past I would read the message and delete as necessary. This was extremely fast. Some I might keep for future reference. This was never in issue in the past but now it is. Maybe it is a just a habit of mine to read and delete. I guess i should just read all the emails and then bulk delete to get around the problem for now. Bernie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie But why would anyone want to delete their email messages one at a time, especially since this will be so slow? I do it all the time. I read a message, hit Del, read a message, hit Del, etc. Sometimes I keep them, sometimes I reply, but a lot of times I don't know I'm going to delete a message until I've read it. Sometimes I can see from the author/subject that it's not worth reading, but most of those are already in the Junk folder. It would be annoying if I had to wait a few extra seconds after every deletion before resuming my reading. Fortunately, I don't have that problem in 2.2. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie But why would anyone want to delete their email messages one at a time, especially since this will be so slow? I do it all the time. I read a message, hit Del, read a message, hit Del, etc. Sometimes I keep them, sometimes I reply, but a lot of times I don't know I'm going to delete a message until I've read it. Sometimes I can see from the author/subject that it's not worth reading, but most of those are already in the Junk folder. It would be annoying if I had to wait a few extra seconds after every deletion before resuming my reading. Fortunately, I don't have that problem in 2.2. I also use the Read and Delete method regularly and have no delay with 2.3 and Win 7. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
Interviewed by CNN on 18/08/2011 14:06, bern...@nospam.com told the world: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie Just a wild guess, but... have you tried compacting your mail folder? -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Xerox copier. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
On 8/18/2011 1:06 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie Bernie, Can you try Compact on the folders you are experiencing this issue in, (right click on the folder in the folder-list, and select the Compact entry) The action of compacting can take a while depending on many factors, size of the message database being one of them. So even if SeaMonkey seems to freeze when you do that, allow it to continue running, (I'd say, max 1 hour should be sufficient even on slow computers) After that, restart seamonkey (and even your computer) to get the memory use flushed, for certain, and then try again, let us know if this helps your situation. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 18/08/2011 14:06, bern...@nospam.com told the world: ... Compacting the folder did not help. Just a wild guess, but... have you tried compacting your mail folder? Just a wild guess, but have you tried reading his post? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3
On 8/18/2011 5:44 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/18/2011 1:06 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie Bernie, Can you try Compact on the folders you are experiencing this issue in, (right click on the folder in the folder-list, and select the Compact entry) The action of compacting can take a while depending on many factors, size of the message database being one of them. So even if SeaMonkey seems to freeze when you do that, allow it to continue running, (I'd say, max 1 hour should be sufficient even on slow computers) After that, restart seamonkey (and even your computer) to get the memory use flushed, for certain, and then try again, let us know if this helps your situation. He should also compact the Trash folder, and if that doesn't do it, delete half the entries, compact, and try again. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
