Re: Is this site working for you?
S. Beaulieu wrote: Update: I got a phone call from the tech guy. It seems that a whole bunch of stuff is going wrong since something changed in IE (?) and that the points I pushed forward about sniffing and Gecko and so on turned out really useful for them. He said they are definitely going to correct the website appropriately. Our community: 1 Shoddy programming: 0 S. How about:- Our community: 1 Shoddy programming: -1, but still a bloody lot left!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
On 08/18/2010 08:18 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote: Update: I got a phone call from the tech guy. It seems that a whole bunch of stuff is going wrong since something changed in IE (?) and that the points I pushed forward about sniffing and Gecko and so on turned out really useful for them. He said they are definitely going to correct the website appropriately. Our community: 1 Shoddy programming: 0 S. Seems like they were good to their word... the site is working now w/o spoofing. Well done! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
On 8/19/10 11:28 AM, NoOp wrote: On 08/18/2010 08:18 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote: Update: I got a phone call from the tech guy. It seems that a whole bunch of stuff is going wrong since something changed in IE (?) and that the points I pushed forward about sniffing and Gecko and so on turned out really useful for them. He said they are definitely going to correct the website appropriately. Our community: 1 Shoddy programming: 0 S. Seems like they were good to their word... the site is working now w/o spoofing. Well done! Thank you for reporting the problem as resolved. I will close bug #588046. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
NoOp a écrit : Send him these: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Browser_Detection_and_Cross_Browser_Support https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko_Compatibility_Handbook [the last is dated, but still provides useful information] Thanks: I will. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
Update: I got a phone call from the tech guy. It seems that a whole bunch of stuff is going wrong since something changed in IE (?) and that the points I pushed forward about sniffing and Gecko and so on turned out really useful for them. He said they are definitely going to correct the website appropriately. Our community: 1 Shoddy programming: 0 S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
S. Beaulieu wrote: Update: I got a phone call from the tech guy. It seems that a whole bunch of stuff is going wrong since something changed in IE (?) and that the points I pushed forward about sniffing and Gecko and so on turned out really useful for them. Heh. So, they were coding not only to a single browser, but to a particular *version* of that browser. A favorite link of mine in this regard: http://google.com/search?q=cache:m2XM97fMGMIJ:www.evolt.org/article/Forward_compatibility_and_web_standards/17/60115/index.html+*-screwed-these-*-up+*-*-broken-links-everywhere+Large-sections-*-*-disappeared+mutual+mutual+*-didn't-support-*-proprietary-*-*-*-*-*+only-includes-Netscape-*+mutual+table-layout-images-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+it.did.not+*-*-*-*-incorrect-content-type-header#comment-60184 http://tinyurl.com/StandardsMatter http://www.evolt.org/article/Forward_compatibility_and_web_standards/17/60115/index.html#comment-60184 He said they are definitely going to correct the website appropriately. Better late than never. Our community: 1 Shoddy programming: 0 Heh. Standards DO matter. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
S. Beaulieu wrote: I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca but ever since they revamped their site, I keep getting an XML analysis error that keeps me from even seeing the site (the whole screen is a yellowinh beige with the error message and part of a coding line that seems to go on off-screen, yet can't be fully viewed). I know there are some coding errors and that's likely the problem. I emailed their web technical support about this and it seems like they are working on it. That being said, what is strange is that the site works with Firefox. I've never yet seen a site work with FF while being totally unaccessible using SeaMonkey. So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all. Any help would be much appreciated. S. No go in seamonkey works fine firefox 3.6.3 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
S. Beaulieu wrote: I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca but ever since they revamped their site, I keep getting an XML analysis error that keeps me from even seeing the site (the whole screen is a yellowinh beige with the error message and part of a coding line that seems to go on off-screen, yet can't be fully viewed). I know there are some coding errors and that's likely the problem. I emailed their web technical support about this and it seems like they are working on it. That being said, what is strange is that the site works with Firefox. I've never yet seen a site work with FF while being totally unaccessible using SeaMonkey. So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all. Any help would be much appreciated. S. Doesn't work for me, but like you it works with FF. Also works in Chromium and Opera. I have seen sites work with other browsers while SM shows a similar error message. Sorry I can't help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
On 8/17/10 7:16 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote: I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca but ever since they revamped their site, I keep getting an XML analysis error that keeps me from even seeing the site (the whole screen is a yellowinh beige with the error message and part of a coding line that seems to go on off-screen, yet can't be fully viewed). I know there are some coding errors and that's likely the problem. I emailed their web technical support about this and it seems like they are working on it. That being said, what is strange is that the site works with Firefox. I've never yet seen a site work with FF while being totally unaccessible using SeaMonkey. So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all. Any help would be much appreciated. S. I tested it. It is definitely a case of invalid sniffing. Not only is the server sniffing for Firefox when it should instead sniff for Gecko -- if they can justify sniffing at all -- but also the sniffing code crashes when it finds an unrecognized browser. See my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. Note that the XML Parsing Error message you got is very similar to the second message under the fouth bullet from the top. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
David E. Ross a écrit : I tested it. It is definitely a case of invalid sniffing. Not only is the server sniffing for Firefox when it should instead sniff for Gecko -- if they can justify sniffing at all -- but also the sniffing code crashes when it finds an unrecognized browser. See myhttp://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. Note that the XML Parsing Error message you got is very similar to the second message under the fouth bullet from the top. Wow! Thank you! S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
On 8/17/10 7:52 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote: David E. Ross a écrit : I tested it. It is definitely a case of invalid sniffing. Not only is the server sniffing for Firefox when it should instead sniff for Gecko -- if they can justify sniffing at all -- but also the sniffing code crashes when it finds an unrecognized browser. See myhttp://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. Note that the XML Parsing Error message you got is very similar to the second message under the fouth bullet from the top. Wow! Thank you! S. This is now bug #588046. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
S. Beaulieu wrote: I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca but ever since they revamped their site, I keep getting an XML analysis error that keeps me from even seeing the site (the whole screen is a yellowinh beige with the error message and part of a coding line that seems to go on off-screen, yet can't be fully viewed). I know there are some coding errors and that's likely the problem. I emailed their web technical support about this and it seems like they are working on it. That being said, what is strange is that the site works with Firefox. I've never yet seen a site work with FF while being totally unaccessible using SeaMonkey. So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all. WFM with SM 2.0.6, with NOT Firefox/3.6 in my UA. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca but ever since they revamped their site, I keep getting an XML analysis error that keeps me from even seeing the site (the whole screen is a yellowinh beige with the error message and part of a coding line that seems to go on off-screen, yet can't be fully viewed). I know there are some coding errors and that's likely the problem. I emailed their web technical support about this and it seems like they are working on it. That being said, what is strange is that the site works with Firefox. I've never yet seen a site work with FF while being totally unaccessible using SeaMonkey. So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all. WFM with SM 2.0.6, with NOT Firefox/3.6 in my UA. -JW Ditto. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net All generalizations are false. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca ... So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all. No, the problem is with (more and more) clueless web authors. WFM with SM 2.0.6, with NOT Firefox/3.6 in my UA. -JW This seems to be the solution for a lot of threads recently. See the trouble with hotmail page thread as another example... -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
Rick wrote:
On 8/17/2010 9:16 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote:
I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca but ever since they revamped their
site, I keep getting an XML analysis error that keeps me from even
seeing the site (the whole screen is a yellowinh beige with the error
message and part of a coding line that seems to go on off-screen, yet
can't be fully viewed). I know there are some coding errors and that's
likely the problem. I emailed their web technical support about this and
it seems like they are working on it.
That being said, what is strange is that the site works with Firefox.
I've never yet seen a site work with FF while being totally unaccessible
using SeaMonkey.
So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all.
Any help would be much appreciated.
S.
It works in IE too. My guess is that the site was designed to work only
with IE, I have come across some other sites where this is an issue.
You might write their corporate Sales Dept. and ask them if they
were intentionally blocking millions of users from accessing
their site or if their Web designers failed to inform them that
they had done so.
Should get a rise out of them ... especially in this economy!
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d...@kd4e.com a écrit : You might write their corporate Sales Dept. and ask them if they were intentionally blocking millions of users from accessing their site or if their Web designers failed to inform them that they had done so. Should get a rise out of them ... especially in this economy! I did, last week! And their technician was really quick to replay about it and seemed to really take an interest in solving the problem. That being said, I just received a final reply from him where he more or less told me to use another browser. I'm currently composing an appropriate reply... No doubt that if more people act on the bug report with proper Gecko is Gecko-type information, it should get things moving. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this site working for you?
On 8/17/10 10:54 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote: d...@kd4e.com a écrit : You might write their corporate Sales Dept. and ask them if they were intentionally blocking millions of users from accessing their site or if their Web designers failed to inform them that they had done so. Should get a rise out of them ... especially in this economy! I did, last week! And their technician was really quick to replay about it and seemed to really take an interest in solving the problem. That being said, I just received a final reply from him where he more or less told me to use another browser. I'm currently composing an appropriate reply... No doubt that if more people act on the bug report with proper Gecko is Gecko-type information, it should get things moving. S. Write a postal letter to the head of Subaru Canada: Mr. Shiro Ohta, President Subaru Canada, Inc 560 Suffolk Court Mississauga, ON L5R 4J7 Do not be too technical. However, point out that suggestions to use some other brand of browser will be treated as if it were suggested to use some other brand of automobile. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
