Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-04 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > Lenovo R60e Celeron.

Grab a barebone T61 15.4 or 14.1 with Intel Graphics from ebay. You 
usually can have them for small change now. You can use the keyboard, 
battery, memory and harddisk from the 60. Using one with Windows and is 
fine for SeaMonkey. Should be even faster with Linux.


Also the processor and ram should be upgradable on the 60.


Bought my Thinkpad L530 off of eBay for $200 a year ago to replace my 
old Latitude D820. Wiped the Win7 and have 16.04 running really well. 
Worked so well that a friend bought two similar, the T530s, and she paid 
less than $200 for each.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-04 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

M.Ross wrote:
I tried upgrading to 14.04 LTS shortly after it released, years ago. Not 
workable on this Lenovo R60e Celeron. So forget 16.04/or better. Most 
errors that occurred over the years since I installed 12.04 LTS proved 
to be graphical - according to Ubuntu -- Not Debian nor Ubuntu Linux 
code errors. Mostly desktop problems.


With such old under-powered hardware going Xubuntu or Lubuntu would be a 
better choice. Maxing out RAM to the 2GB would also help.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-04 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

> Lenovo R60e Celeron.

Grab a barebone T61 15.4 or 14.1 with Intel Graphics from ebay. You usually 
can have them for small change now. You can use the keyboard, battery, memory 
and harddisk from the 60. Using one with Windows and is fine for SeaMonkey. 
Should be even faster with Linux.


Also the processor and ram should be upgradable on the 60.

FRG


M.Ross wrote:

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 19:09 -0800 NoOp wrote:
On 2/28/2018 8:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS




You might want to upgrade to 16.04.2 LTS:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS reached its regular End of Life on April 28, 2017. No
more package updates, including security updates, will be accepted to
the 12.04 primary archive.


I doubt this old Ubuntu to be the problem I report on. And I am aware of 12.04 
LTS demise. Quickly - and being Off Topic, I will stop here.


I tried upgrading to 14.04 LTS shortly after it released, years ago. Not 
workable on this Lenovo R60e Celeron. So forget 16.04/or better. Most errors 
that occurred over the years since I installed 12.04 LTS proved to be 
graphical - according to Ubuntu -- Not Debian nor Ubuntu Linux code errors. 
Mostly desktop problems.


I try Lubuntu and Debian LXDE now. Maybe I can upgrade Linux that way. Unity 
unnecessary; Gnome Classic not really the problem, nor is Nautilus v3.4 FM. 
Cinnamon and Mate tried and failed -- overloaded -- over-coded desktops/FMs.


I need a good Linux Forum, similar to this one for Seamonkey. Something that 
welcomes older X86 laptops. But DSL too limited I think.


Anybody tag me direct, off list, with Debian/Ubuntu/etc Linux Forum List 
ideas. Include "linux4ross" in subject line. Thanks!



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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-04 Thread M.Ross 

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 19:09 -0800 NoOp wrote:
On 2/28/2018 8:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS




You might want to upgrade to 16.04.2 LTS:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS reached its regular End of Life on April 28, 2017. No
more package updates, including security updates, will be accepted to
the 12.04 primary archive.


I doubt this old Ubuntu to be the problem I report on. And I am aware of 
12.04 LTS demise. Quickly - and being Off Topic, I will stop here.


I tried upgrading to 14.04 LTS shortly after it released, years ago. Not 
workable on this Lenovo R60e Celeron. So forget 16.04/or better. Most 
errors that occurred over the years since I installed 12.04 LTS proved 
to be graphical - according to Ubuntu -- Not Debian nor Ubuntu Linux 
code errors. Mostly desktop problems.


I try Lubuntu and Debian LXDE now. Maybe I can upgrade Linux that way. 
Unity unnecessary; Gnome Classic not really the problem, nor is Nautilus 
v3.4 FM. Cinnamon and Mate tried and failed -- overloaded -- over-coded 
desktops/FMs.


I need a good Linux Forum, similar to this one for Seamonkey. Something 
that welcomes older X86 laptops. But DSL too limited I think.


Anybody tag me direct, off list, with Debian/Ubuntu/etc Linux Forum List 
ideas. Include "linux4ross" in subject line. Thanks!


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-01 Thread NoOp 
On 2/28/2018 8:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:
> Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More
> 
> Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?
> 
> Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

You might want to upgrade to 16.04.2 LTS:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS reached its regular End of Life on April 28, 2017. No
more package updates, including security updates, will be accepted to
the 12.04 primary archive.






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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-01 Thread EE 

WaltS48 wrote:
Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


If you want just a browser, you could try Pale Moon.  It is pretty good.

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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-02-28 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
Correct. I know about it and a few other cases too. I can spend time fixing 
these or real bugs. Same for the other devs and maintainers.


As long as no people stepping forward and actively help out it will be a 
dollar short a lot of times.


Checkout the website code at:

https://hg.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/seamonkey-project-org/

File a bug and add a patch.

Set a reviewer. You can add me if you want.

Only filing a bug won't get it fixed btw.

FRG

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for 



This look like SM developers weren't aware the link existed. The link was 
added to about:plugins in Firefox, and the code looks like this:


--
deprecationLink.href = 
Services.urlFormatter.formatURLPref("app.support.baseURL") + "npapi";

--

"app.support.baseURL" is preference setting which tells you the URL of the 
support site, then it adds "npapi".


That code is probably Firefox code that SeaMonkey uses, and 
"app.support.baseURL" in SeaMonkey is set to 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/



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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-02-28 Thread Chris Ilias 

On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for 



This look like SM developers weren't aware the link existed. The link 
was added to about:plugins in Firefox, and the code looks like this:


--
deprecationLink.href = 
Services.urlFormatter.formatURLPref("app.support.baseURL") + "npapi";

--

"app.support.baseURL" is preference setting which tells you the URL of 
the support site, then it adds "npapi".


That code is probably Firefox code that SeaMonkey uses, and 
"app.support.baseURL" in SeaMonkey is set to 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-02-28 Thread WaltS48 

On 02/28/2018 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for 

-snip-
Page Not Found
We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for.

The page or file you're looking for wasn't found on our site. It's 
possible that you clicked a link that's out of date, or typed in the 
address incorrectly.


     If you typed in the address, please double check the spelling.
     If you followed a link from somewhere, please let us know at 
webmas...@seamonkey-project.org. Tell us where you came from and what 
you were looking for, and we'll do our best to fix it.


Or you can just jump over to some of the popular pages on our website.

     Were you looking for our downloads?
     Or maybe information about the SeaMonkey project?
     It might just be best to start at the SeaMonkey Home Page.
-snip-

No Webmaster? I know there is turmoil in Zilla-Land, but is it time to 
take a holiday from using Zillas until matters are solved?


Problem is no worthy GUI browser exits. Firefox is too immature, and 
much of it has infected Seamonkey from the stable work it seemed to be 
when first taken over by the original Seamonkey group. Now it is back in 
Moz-Hands for a while.


Chromium is Google junk. Opera is too clumsy / buggy / overloaded / 
bloated / ... -- but it seems Seamonkey is no better than Opera now; 
over-coded or something. What? So---


Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! 
But too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. 
Modularize Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -

applications.



So you didn't click the webmas...@seamonkey-project.org and ask about 
the Page Not Found?


This might help if you are curious about plugins.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-02-28 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

M.Ross wrote:

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS


Are you saying you are still running 12.04.5 LTS?

Dude you need to upgrade! ;-)

12.04 is well passed its sell-by date. You should be on at lease 14.04 
LTS and that release goes EOL next year and 16.04 would be a better long 
term solution. You may have a library issue that is not backported to 12.04.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-02-28 Thread WaltS48 

On 2/28/18 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:
I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! 
But too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. 
Modularize Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -
applications. 



Those are called Firefox and Thunderbird. ;-)

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