Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-27 Thread HenriK

HenriK wrote:

In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is returned
claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a file-by-file search
using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any evidence of a 2nd copy of SM
but I wasn't clear about what evidence I should have been looking for.

What is the best way to deal with this problem that won't cause me to
lose any of the existing profile data (bookmarks, mail files, etc.)and
other customization?

Thanks, in advance, for suggestions, pointers to tutorial material, and
advice.
I have tried every suggestion made in response to this query thus far 
and I still can't get rid of the update error message originally 
referenced.  As previously mentioned in the thread, SM did finally get 
updated but the error message remains.  Could the problem have 
originated because by a leftover entry in the registry from SM v.2.30 
that the upgrade to v.2.33.1 didn't remove?  If so, how does one 
identify such a registry entry and get it deleted?  If this isn't the 
cause, what could it be?


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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-19 Thread Ed Mullen

HenriK wrote on 7/19/2015 12:05 AM:

George wrote:

HenriK wrote:

In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is returned
claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a file-by-file search
using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any evidence of a 2nd copy of SM
but I wasn't clear about what evidence I should have been looking for.

What is the best way to deal with this problem that won't cause me to
lose any of the existing profile data (bookmarks, mail files, etc.)and
other customization?

Thanks, in advance, for suggestions, pointers to tutorial material, and
advice.


Just a hunch.  Look in your profile for a file named parent.lock.
Delete that file and try the install once again.

George

Interesting idea.  I tried deleting 'parent.lock' but it didn't fix the
problem.

In the process of locating the 'parent.lock' file I did notice that I
have both a 'prefs' file and a 'prefs-1' file.  Could this mean anything
given the problem I am having?


Just a stab in the dark ... close SM.  Rename prefs.js and prefs-1.js to 
prefs.js.bak and prefs-1.js.bak.


Try the update.

Also, do you have more than one profile?


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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-19 Thread HenriK

Ed Mullen wrote:

HenriK wrote on 7/19/2015 12:05 AM:

George wrote:

HenriK wrote:

In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is returned
claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a file-by-file search
using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any evidence of a 2nd copy
of SM
but I wasn't clear about what evidence I should have been looking for.

What is the best way to deal with this problem that won't cause me to
lose any of the existing profile data (bookmarks, mail files, etc.)and
other customization?

Thanks, in advance, for suggestions, pointers to tutorial material, and
advice.


Just a hunch.  Look in your profile for a file named parent.lock.
Delete that file and try the install once again.

George

Interesting idea.  I tried deleting 'parent.lock' but it didn't fix the
problem.

In the process of locating the 'parent.lock' file I did notice that I
have both a 'prefs' file and a 'prefs-1' file.  Could this mean anything
given the problem I am having?


Just a stab in the dark ... close SM.  Rename prefs.js and prefs-1.js to
prefs.js.bak and prefs-1.js.bak.

Try the update.

Also, do you have more than one profile?


Thanks for the suggestion.  In the browser mode, nothing changed after 
renaming the 'prefs' and 'prefs-1' files as you suggested.  After doing 
this, the update still wouldn't load despite several system re-boots. 
In the e-mail mode, I was prompted to establish a new e-mail account, 
something I didn't do as I want to keep the existing profile, e-mail 
files, bookmarks, etc.


This PC has two user accounts, each with their own passwords and both 
set up as 'administrator' accounts.  Each user has their own SM profile 
and SM password.


User 1's SM account has always worked fine and does not have an e-mail 
account.  User 2's SM account has e-mail set up and is the one with the 
problem.



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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-18 Thread HenriK

George wrote:

HenriK wrote:

In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is returned
claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a file-by-file search
using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any evidence of a 2nd copy of SM
but I wasn't clear about what evidence I should have been looking for.

What is the best way to deal with this problem that won't cause me to
lose any of the existing profile data (bookmarks, mail files, etc.)and
other customization?

Thanks, in advance, for suggestions, pointers to tutorial material, and
advice.


Just a hunch.  Look in your profile for a file named parent.lock.
Delete that file and try the install once again.

George
Interesting idea.  I tried deleting 'parent.lock' but it didn't fix the 
problem.


In the process of locating the 'parent.lock' file I did notice that I 
have both a 'prefs' file and a 'prefs-1' file.  Could this mean anything 
given the problem I am having?

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-17 Thread HenriK

Burry wrote:

On 17.07.15 4:41, HenriK wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/07/2015 12:33 PM, HenriK wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:


Snip


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently
indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I
still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case,
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.


Henrik, it might be a bit drastic but have you tried completely deleting
SM (but leaving your profile in place), then used a registry cleaner to
remove any bits left-over by the removal and then done a complete
re-install of SM??

Of course, before trying this, download a complete new copy of whatever
the latest version of SM that you like is and, better safe than sorry,
copy or back-up your profile.


Thanks for the comment.  I have, in fact, already deleted SM twice and
reinstalled it and that didn't fix the problem.

The problem with using a registry cleaner is that one needs to know what
one is looking for.  My past experience is that most registry cleaners
aren't particularly discriminating and often delete things one doesn't
want deleted (I have had bad experience in that regard).  Accordingly,
their use has to be handled in a very precise way to avoid problems.
The problem remains, assuming I am looking for some odd bit of SM code
remaining in the registry, what is it I need to look for?  I would had
hoped someone from the SM development team might chime in with some
pointers on what I should be looking for.


I use revo uninstall to really clean the system of trash,
be it files, directories or registery items.
Of course, save/backup your profile.
My experience with Revo is mixed and I find it too aggressive and 
frequently insufficiently discriminating.  I.e., one needs to know what 
one needs to protect in the registry and what one is looking for that is 
causing the problem at hand.

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-17 Thread George

HenriK wrote:

In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is returned
claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a file-by-file search
using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any evidence of a 2nd copy of SM
but I wasn't clear about what evidence I should have been looking for.

What is the best way to deal with this problem that won't cause me to
lose any of the existing profile data (bookmarks, mail files, etc.)and
other customization?

Thanks, in advance, for suggestions, pointers to tutorial material, and
advice.


Just a hunch.  Look in your profile for a file named parent.lock. 
Delete that file and try the install once again.


George
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-16 Thread Daniel

On 15/07/2015 12:33 PM, HenriK wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:


Snip


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case,
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.


Henrik, it might be a bit drastic but have you tried completely deleting 
SM (but leaving your profile in place), then used a registry cleaner to 
remove any bits left-over by the removal and then done a complete 
re-install of SM??


Of course, before trying this, download a complete new copy of whatever 
the latest version of SM that you like is and, better safe than sorry, 
copy or back-up your profile.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-16 Thread Burry

On 17.07.15 4:41, HenriK wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/07/2015 12:33 PM, HenriK wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:


Snip


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case,
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.


Henrik, it might be a bit drastic but have you tried completely deleting
SM (but leaving your profile in place), then used a registry cleaner to
remove any bits left-over by the removal and then done a complete
re-install of SM??

Of course, before trying this, download a complete new copy of whatever
the latest version of SM that you like is and, better safe than sorry,
copy or back-up your profile.


Thanks for the comment.  I have, in fact, already deleted SM twice and
reinstalled it and that didn't fix the problem.

The problem with using a registry cleaner is that one needs to know what
one is looking for.  My past experience is that most registry cleaners
aren't particularly discriminating and often delete things one doesn't
want deleted (I have had bad experience in that regard).  Accordingly,
their use has to be handled in a very precise way to avoid problems.
The problem remains, assuming I am looking for some odd bit of SM code
remaining in the registry, what is it I need to look for?  I would had
hoped someone from the SM development team might chime in with some
pointers on what I should be looking for.


I use revo uninstall to really clean the system of trash,
be it files, directories or registery items.
Of course, save/backup your profile.
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-16 Thread HenriK

Daniel wrote:

On 15/07/2015 12:33 PM, HenriK wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:


Snip


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case,
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.


Henrik, it might be a bit drastic but have you tried completely deleting
SM (but leaving your profile in place), then used a registry cleaner to
remove any bits left-over by the removal and then done a complete
re-install of SM??

Of course, before trying this, download a complete new copy of whatever
the latest version of SM that you like is and, better safe than sorry,
copy or back-up your profile.

Thanks for the comment.  I have, in fact, already deleted SM twice and 
reinstalled it and that didn't fix the problem.


The problem with using a registry cleaner is that one needs to know what 
one is looking for.  My past experience is that most registry cleaners 
aren't particularly discriminating and often delete things one doesn't 
want deleted (I have had bad experience in that regard).  Accordingly, 
their use has to be handled in a very precise way to avoid problems. 
The problem remains, assuming I am looking for some odd bit of SM code 
remaining in the registry, what is it I need to look for?  I would had 
hoped someone from the SM development team might chime in with some 
pointers on what I should be looking for.

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-15 Thread Ray_Net

HenriK wrote on 15/07/2015 04:44:

Ray_Net wrote:

John Duncan wrote on 14/07/2015 18:09:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version 
on a

Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running. After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what
evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of 
material

lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is
that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted. Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem? Or,
would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post
back.

I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently 
indicates no

SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process. BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

That's why I always loved that program ``Unlocker 1.9.2,'' before it
was bundled with spyware :/


Perhaps 1.9.2 from here http://filehippo.com/download_unlocker/
Thanks for the Unlocker lead.  I had never heard of this utility and 
it sounds like a most useful utility.  I downloaded it and installed 
it. Unfortunately, it couldn't find anything wrong to fix.


As previously mentioned and although I am not sufficiently 
knowledgeable enough be certain about what has gone wrong, I continue 
to suspect that that the problem has been caused by the SM v.2.33.1 
upgrade process leaving some bit of something in the Win7 registry 
that it should have deleted as part of the v.2.33.1 upgrade.  Assuming 
I identified the source of the problem, how do I find this odd bit of 
code and get rid of it?

I did not know that this program detect locked file.
I have it installed (1.9.1) on my pc. And I found a locked file by 
another way (perhaps the application who need it unlocked) then in 
Explorer, I do a right-clik on it - then choose  Unlocker

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-14 Thread John Duncan

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is
that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted.  Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem? Or, would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post back.


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.
That's why I always loved that program ``Unlocker 1.9.2,'' before it was 
bundled with spyware :/


Fixed that issue beautifully.
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-14 Thread Ray_Net

John Duncan wrote on 14/07/2015 18:09:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running. After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what 
evidence I

should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is
that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted. Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem? Or, 
would

a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post 
back.



I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.
That's why I always loved that program ``Unlocker 1.9.2,'' before it 
was bundled with spyware :/



Perhaps 1.9.2 from here http://filehippo.com/download_unlocker/
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-14 Thread HenriK

Ray_Net wrote:

John Duncan wrote on 14/07/2015 18:09:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running. After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what
evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is
that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted. Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem? Or,
would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post
back.


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

That's why I always loved that program ``Unlocker 1.9.2,'' before it
was bundled with spyware :/


Perhaps 1.9.2 from here http://filehippo.com/download_unlocker/
Thanks for the Unlocker lead.  I had never heard of this utility and it 
sounds like a most useful utility.  I downloaded it and installed it. 
Unfortunately, it couldn't find anything wrong to fix.


As previously mentioned and although I am not sufficiently knowledgeable 
enough be certain about what has gone wrong, I continue to suspect that 
that the problem has been caused by the SM v.2.33.1 upgrade process 
leaving some bit of something in the Win7 registry that it should have 
deleted as part of the v.2.33.1 upgrade.  Assuming I identified the 
source of the problem, how do I find this odd bit of code and get rid of it?

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-14 Thread HenriK

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is
that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted.  Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem? Or, would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post back.


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.
You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case, 
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is 
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple 
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-13 Thread Rick Merrill

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted.  Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem? Or, would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post back.

I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no SM is 
running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile info was left 
untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still get the error message that 
the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't install because another copy of SM (version 
not stated) is running.  After clicking past the error message window, however, I 
find that v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this nuisance 
error message?


Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really understand much 
about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but wonder if some odd bid of 
something has been left by the SM v.2.30 deinstall process in the registry or some 
other obscure place or that the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do 
something it was supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the 
nuisance error message and what is causing this problem?


Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or advice.
Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to reboot the 
whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag on a file that a program 
needed and only a reboot would clear it.

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-12 Thread HenriK

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted.  Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem?  Or, would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post back.

I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no 
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30.  Fortunately, my profile info 
was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still get 
the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't install 
because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.  After 
clicking past the error message window, however, I find that v.2.33.1 
has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this nuisance error 
message?


Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really 
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but 
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30 
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that 
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was 
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance 
error message and what is causing this problem?


Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or 
advice.

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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted.  Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem?  Or, would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by 
authoritative experts, just as you say.


Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you 
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post back.


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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-07 Thread HenriK

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.

Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see 
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.


I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material 
lurking in the registry?


If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is that 
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted.  Is that a 
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and 
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem?  Or, would 
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Thanks, in advance, for your counsel.
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-06 Thread MRoss

Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Yes! I suffered the same problem for a long time - unable to discover 
why,  yes a hidden copy of Seamonkey was still cranking according to 
Ubuntu Processor display -  as a matter of fact several Seamonkey 
timers were running. With a short amount of time they did time out  a 
new Seamonkey process could be started - no harm done. Just a nuisance!


Yet since updating to sm v2.33.1 it seems the problem is gone. At the 
same time I am sure many updates took place for Ubuntu Linux. Which 
update actually ended the problem I don't know. But it seems gone now 
for at least 2-3 months.


I am running Ubuntu Linux 12.04LTS updated,  now a Windozz system 
user complaint of the same bug, so I suggest the nuisance is more 
Seamonkey related, than OS related. But who knows?


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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager 
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?


This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.

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