Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[hawker]

On 11/3/2011 1:10 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save
files from the plug in.

I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds to
a couple of minutes. So now I am wondering if this is part of the lock
up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat issue?
And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or Seamonkey.

I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?

Hawker



Hawker,

Try this suggestion to eliminate the source of your problem.

Using SM download the pdf file to your desktop.
Close SM and double click the pdf file to open the file with the Adobe
Reader X.
With Adobe Reader rendering the file print the file.

Check the timing of the download in SM.
Check the time it takes for Adobe Reader X to render the file.
Check the time it takes to print the file.

Compare the timing using SM plugin to perform the similar tasks.

If SM takes a long time to download the file check the file size of the
downloaded file, it may be several Mb in size.

Making comparisons between the two operations may help you to determine
the cause of your pdf problems.

Michael G



I'm on a supper fast pipe here, the download is not the issue. I 
understand that. The issue is when I hit print or save AFTER it has all 
cached it often crashes Acrobat and takes down Seamonkey with it.
I'm thinking it must be something with this configuration here since my 
other computer, with a very similar set up does not have this issue.




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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[JD]

Carl Gehr wrote:

On 11/03/11 01:10 pm, Michael Gordon wrote:

hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save
files from the plug in.

I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds to
a couple of minutes. So now I am wondering if this is part of the lock
up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat issue?
And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or
Seamonkey.

I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?

Hawker



Hawker,

Try this suggestion to eliminate the source of your problem.

Using SM download the pdf file to your desktop.
Close SM and double click the pdf file to open the file with the Adobe
Reader X.
With Adobe Reader rendering the file print the file.

Check the timing of the download in SM.
Check the time it takes for Adobe Reader X to render the file.
Check the time it takes to print the file.

Compare the timing using SM plugin to perform the similar tasks.

If SM takes a long time to download the file check the file size of the
downloaded file, it may be several Mb in size.

Making comparisons between the two operations may help you to determine
the cause of your pdf problems.


To respond to both this and the original post:
1) My SM does crash. About 90% of the time I click on a PDF link.
Sometimes, it is when I am not even expecting a PDF, but get the crash.
2) Since I cannot even get to the link for the PDF, downloading is not
an option.
3) Often, the PDF is not exposed [see unexpected PDF above] but SM
crashes when the hidden reference to the PDF is found.

This problem did not exist prior to SM 2.3 [which replaced 1.1.18 on my
system]




Are you using the Reader or the full blown version of Acrobat? What Version?

Whichever program you are using, click on Edit, Preferences, Internet. 
Under Web Browser Options, remove any check marks. Does this eliminate 
your problem?


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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[Carl Gehr]

On 11/03/11 01:10 pm, Michael Gordon wrote:

hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save
files from the plug in.

I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds to
a couple of minutes. So now I am wondering if this is part of the lock
up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat issue?
And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or Seamonkey.

I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?

Hawker



Hawker,

Try this suggestion to eliminate the source of your problem.

Using SM download the pdf file to your desktop.
Close SM and double click the pdf file to open the file with the Adobe
Reader X.
With Adobe Reader rendering the file print the file.

Check the timing of the download in SM.
Check the time it takes for Adobe Reader X to render the file.
Check the time it takes to print the file.

Compare the timing using SM plugin to perform the similar tasks.

If SM takes a long time to download the file check the file size of the
downloaded file, it may be several Mb in size.

Making comparisons between the two operations may help you to determine
the cause of your pdf problems.


To respond to both this and the original post:
1) My SM does crash.  About 90% of the time I click on a PDF link. 
Sometimes, it is when I am not even expecting a PDF, but get the crash.
2)  Since I cannot even get to the link for the PDF, downloading is not 
an option.
3)  Often, the PDF is not exposed [see unexpected PDF above] but SM 
crashes when the hidden reference to the PDF is found.


This problem did not exist prior to SM 2.3 [which replaced 1.1.18 on my 
system]



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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[rob]

On 11/4/2011 1:25 PM, hawker wrote:

On 11/3/2011 2:53 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:




While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also
notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?


This is a function of how the server holding the PDF file delivers it,
not anything you can control.


Try hitting  with the PDF open.


All be darned. That does it. Thank you very much!


You're welcome.

Took me months to discover it by accident. I think there's also key 
that works.

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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[hawker]

On 11/3/2011 2:53 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:




While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?


This is a function of how the server holding the PDF file delivers it,
not anything you can control.


Try hitting  with the PDF open.


All be darned. That does it.  Thank you very much!

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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[Rob Steinmetz]

David E. Ross wrote:




While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?


This is a function of how the server holding the PDF file delivers it,
not anything you can control.


Try hitting  with the PDF open.
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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[Michael Gordon]

hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save
files from the plug in.

I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds to
a couple of minutes. So now I am wondering if this is part of the lock
up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat issue?
And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or Seamonkey.

I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?

Hawker



Hawker,

Try this suggestion to eliminate the source of your problem.

Using SM download the pdf file to your desktop.
Close SM and double click the pdf file to open the file with the Adobe 
Reader X.

With Adobe Reader rendering the file print the file.

Check the timing of the download in SM.
Check the time it takes for Adobe Reader X to render the file.
Check the time it takes to print the file.

Compare the timing using SM plugin to perform the similar tasks.

If SM takes a long time to download the file check the file size of the 
downloaded file, it may be several Mb in size.


Making comparisons between the two operations may help you to determine 
the cause of your pdf problems.


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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[PhillipJones]

hawker wrote:

On 11/3/2011 11:19 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/3/11 5:43 AM, hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save
files from the plug in.

I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds to
a couple of minutes. So now I am wondering if this is part of the lock
up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat issue?
And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or
Seamonkey.

I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.


I see a freeze while the PDF file downloads, the plugin launches, and
the PDF file is displayed. Depending on the speed of your Internet
connection, this might be a brief or long freeze.

If I am running something else that consumes most of my CPU at the same
time, however, the freeze seems to be permanent. For example, I cannot
encrypt a gigabyte file and, at the same time, have SeaMonkey download
and display a two-page PDF file.


While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?


This is a function of how the server holding the PDF file delivers it,
not anything you can control.



I have noticed everything you mention for the most part.
The only difference is that what else I am doing in the back ground does
not seem to be the issue, or perhaps it is. I usually have several CPU
intensive CAD programs going in the back ground, but they are usually
not "active" when I am doing this. The control panel says in this state
that they are not consuming many resources. I notice the hang almost
only happens when I save a file or print a file so perhaps it is that
CPU hit that causes this. It started when I upgraded from 9.x to 10.x
and has been with me ever since.




Download speed has a bearing.You'd think everyone would get on the 
bandwagon a get a high-speed connection atcompanies or servers that 
transfer files. Here it is 2011 and many major companies when you 
attempt to download from their doanload sever. even  on my 3 MB DSL I 
get no more than 29KB  should be at least 10 to 20 times that speed. 
OnCable it should be even more.


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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[hawker]

On 11/3/2011 11:19 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/3/11 5:43 AM, hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save
files from the plug in.

I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds to
a couple of minutes.  So now I am wondering if this is part of the lock
up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat issue?
And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or Seamonkey.

I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.


I see a freeze while the PDF file downloads, the plugin launches, and
the PDF file is displayed.  Depending on the speed of your Internet
connection, this might be a brief or long freeze.

If I am running something else that consumes most of my CPU at the same
time, however, the freeze seems to be permanent.  For example, I cannot
encrypt a gigabyte file and, at the same time, have SeaMonkey download
and display a two-page PDF file.


While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice
that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean"
the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean
one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only
sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?


This is a function of how the server holding the PDF file delivers it,
not anything you can control.



I have noticed everything you mention for the most part.
The only difference is that what else I am doing in the back ground does 
not seem to be the issue, or perhaps it is.  I usually have several CPU 
intensive CAD programs going in the back ground, but they are usually 
not "active" when I am doing this. The control panel says in this state 
that they are not consuming many resources.  I notice the hang almost 
only happens when I save a file or print a file so perhaps it is that 
CPU hit that causes this. It started when I upgraded from 9.x to 10.x 
and has been with me ever since.



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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[WLS]

WLS wrote:

hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat 
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and 
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or 
save files from the plug in.


I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds 
to a couple of minutes.  So now I am wondering if this is part of the 
lock up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat 
issue? And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or 
Seamonkey.


I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also 
notice that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and 
"clean" the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like 
the clean one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured 
one only sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the 
other?


Hawker



You are using an outdated version, subject to security vulnerabilities.

http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/

Update to SeaMonkey 2.4.1, and see if you still have the problem.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/



As far as I am concerned it is the only answer.

Support for older versions should not be offered, but I am sure some 
kind person will assist you.


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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[David E. Ross]

On 11/3/11 5:43 AM, hawker wrote:
> I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
> For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat 
> Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and 
> thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save 
> files from the plug in.
> 
> I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds to 
> a couple of minutes.  So now I am wondering if this is part of the lock 
> up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat issue? 
> And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or Seamonkey.
> 
> I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

I see a freeze while the PDF file downloads, the plugin launches, and
the PDF file is displayed.  Depending on the speed of your Internet
connection, this might be a brief or long freeze.

If I am running something else that consumes most of my CPU at the same
time, however, the freeze seems to be permanent.  For example, I cannot
encrypt a gigabyte file and, at the same time, have SeaMonkey download
and display a two-page PDF file.

> While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also notice 
> that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and "clean" 
> the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like the clean 
> one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured one only 
> sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the other?

This is a function of how the server holding the PDF file delivers it,
not anything you can control.

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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[hawker]

On 11/3/2011 10:10 AM, WLS wrote:

hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save
files from the plug in.

I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds
to a couple of minutes. So now I am wondering if this is part of the
lock up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat
issue? And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or
Seamonkey.

I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also
notice that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and
"clean" the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like
the clean one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured
one only sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the
other?

Hawker



You are using an outdated version, subject to security vulnerabilities.

http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/

Update to SeaMonkey 2.4.1, and see if you still have the problem.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/



Not much of an answer dontcha think. I'm not that far back 2.3x and this 
problem has been going on for quite a while since 2.0.x days I think.  I 
highly doubt an update will fix this.


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Re: Seamonkey Freeze with Acrobat

[WLS]

hawker wrote:

I have read many threads about Seamonkey Freezing.
For me the only place I have seen this is since I moved from Acrobat 
Reader 9 to Acrobat 10. I always saw it as an Acrobat problem and 
thought the Acrobat Plugin was crashing Seamonkey when I print or save 
files from the plug in.


I now realize Seamonkey did not crash, just locked up for 30 seconds 
to a couple of minutes.  So now I am wondering if this is part of the 
lock up issues others are talking about? Do others see this Acrobat 
issue? And is there any known fix? I don't know is this is Acrobat or 
Seamonkey.


I live off of Acrobat and so this bug is really annoying.

While I am at it (I know this is not a Seamonkey question) I also 
notice that the Acrobat plug in has two UIs. One is stripped down and 
"clean" the other is more traditional and full featured. I don't like 
the clean one (the one that normally comes up) but the full featured 
one only sometimes comes up. Any idea how to force it one way or the 
other?


Hawker



You are using an outdated version, subject to security vulnerabilities.

http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/

Update to SeaMonkey 2.4.1, and see if you still have the problem.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

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