Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?
In the last episode of sekdnzvvw-3habjnnz2dnuvz_v6dn...@mozilla.org, Ron Hunter rphun...@charter.net said: I would like that, but there are those who think cookies are the work of the devil. Then they don't get to use that feature, do they? Not really a big deal. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ant wrote: On 10/18/2012 12:04 PM PT, Dave Warren typed: Personally, I often middle-click open a few videos that look interesting at once, but I don't want these to all start playing at once. Ditto for me. Sometimes I have 50+ tabs opened. :D Seems to me this whole issue is better addressed by YouTube having a disable auto play button that would set a cookie. MLB.com has that on team pages GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/22/2012 7:31 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote: Ant wrote: On 10/18/2012 12:04 PM PT, Dave Warren typed: Personally, I often middle-click open a few videos that look interesting at once, but I don't want these to all start playing at once. Ditto for me. Sometimes I have 50+ tabs opened. :D Seems to me this whole issue is better addressed by YouTube having a disable auto play button that would set a cookie. MLB.com has that on team pages GW I would like that, but there are those who think cookies are the work of the devil. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 2012-10-17, PhillipJones pjones...@comcast.net wrote: I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Works for me with HTML5 of FF-16.0.1-linux. -- -John (j...@os2.dhs.org) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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PhillipJones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Here is a sample video that works in ff17: http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1. I did notice Doesn't work in the latest SM. I get sound on both those links, Phillip, but then User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/18/2012 11:34 AM, Daniel wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Here is a sample video that works in ff17: http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1. I did notice Doesn't work in the latest SM. I get sound on both those links, Phillip, but then User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 So do I with FF 16.01 and Windows 7. -- Peter Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:57:24 AM Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/18/2012 11:34 AM, Daniel wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Here is a sample video that works in ff17: http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1. I did notice Doesn't work in the latest SM. I get sound on both those links, Phillip, but then User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 So do I with FF 16.01 and Windows 7. Works in SeaMonkey for me: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.1 -- openSUSE 12.2(Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop x86_64)| KDE 4.9.2 release 511|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.51) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 2012-10-18 02:34, Daniel wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Here is a sample video that works in ff17: http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1. I did notice Doesn't work in the latest SM. I get sound on both those links, Phillip, but then User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I get Flash for both those links with Firefox Opera, but the second one does not play with Firefox 16.0.1. Both work with Opera. There is no advertising in the first one. Neither link shows the video with Safari, which uses only HTML5 with YouTube. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/18/2012 2:55 PM, EE wrote: On 2012-10-18 02:34, Daniel wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Here is a sample video that works in ff17: http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1. I did notice Doesn't work in the latest SM. I get sound on both those links, Phillip, but then User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I get Flash for both those links with Firefox Opera, but the second one does not play with Firefox 16.0.1. Both work with Opera. There is no advertising in the first one. Neither link shows the video with Safari, which uses only HTML5 with YouTube. They both seem to work fine here on 17 beta. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/17/2012 10:32 AM, PhillipJones wrote: ... I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Here is a sample video that works in ff17: http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1. I did notice Doesn't work in the latest SM. Works for me with Flash turned off and WebM[1] turned on. User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.1 Build identifier: 20121011090043 [1] I was lambasted (correctly) in referring to WebM (which both those links provide) as HTML5 in my Turn Off HTML5? thread. The hierarchy, as I now think I understand it, is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5 HTML5 is a markup language for structuring and presenting content for the World Wide Web, and is a core technology of the Internet originally proposed by Opera Software.[2] It is the fifth revision of the HTML standard (created in 1990 and standardized as HTML4 as of 1997)[3] and, as of October 2012, is still under development. Its core aims have been to improve the language with support for the latest multimedia while keeping it easily readable by humans and consistently understood by computers and devices (web browsers, parsers, etc.). HTML5 is intended to subsume not only HTML 4, but XHTML 1 and DOM Level 2 HTML as well.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video The HTML5 draft specification introduced the video element for the purpose of playing videos or movies,[1] partially replacing the object element. HTML5 video is intended by its creators to become the new standard way to show video on the web without plugins, but has been hampered by lack of agreement as to which video formats should be supported in web browsers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM WebM is an audio-video format designed to provide royalty-free, open video compression for use with HTML5 video. The project's development is sponsored by Google Inc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/18/2012 12:04 PM PT, Dave Warren typed: Personally, I often middle-click open a few videos that look interesting at once, but I don't want these to all start playing at once. Ditto for me. Sometimes I have 50+ tabs opened. :D -- Whence we see spiders, flies, or ants entombed and preserved forever in amber, a more than royal tomb. --Sir Francis Bacon in Historia Vitæ et Mortis; Sylva Sylvarum, Cent. i. Exper. 100. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:06:18 -0700, Ant wrote: On 10/16/2012 9:49 AM PT, Dave Royal typed: One of the reasons I gave up SM for Fx a few years back. Yeah, it's frustrating. What do you use for e-mail, newsgroups, etc. since Firefox is only a web browser? I use Thunderbird for email - though unnecessarily complex for me really. But I have an email archive going back to Netscape in the '90s. On a tablet I use Claws. FWIW I like XPN as a newsreader, but it doesn't survive suspend on this laptop so I use Pan - which is rather buggy. Back on topic, I used SM for a year or so after Fx appeared. But there were fewer addons, and FX got better, so I changed to it; not regretted it. Dave -- (Remove any numerics from my email address.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Daniel wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705 I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec I do have the h.264 Here is a sample video that works in ff17: http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1. I did notice Doesn't work in the latest SM. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 10:01 PM, Ant wrote: On 10/16/2012 9:07 AM PT, NoOp typed: Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P If I recall that you use Prefbar... right? I also recall that you commented and participated in my thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012 In that thread I gave how to create a WebM on/off button - the same as the Flash on/off button. For others that would like to read the thread open the search bar enter: Turn Off HTML5 That will take you directly to the thread. Note that Ant was the first to comment on that thread... Scroll down to: [WebM prefbar button] Re: [Solved] Re: Turn Off HTML5? and you'll find how to turn off WebM from about:config *and* how to add a WebM on/off button for Prefbar. crosspost to Firefox dropped as the thread is only in m.s.s. If turning off HTML5, wouldn't that be for ALL? I just want videos only. You should have gone back and read the thread. Please do. Anyway: http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ant ant@zimage.comANT wrote in message news:-ekdnxsweeqevobnnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org... On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are HTML5 and some are still Flash. But they're phasing in HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other mobiles. Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube added me into a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 ... I opted out and all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5 compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues like I mentioned. :( -- Ants die in sugar. --Malawi /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. I am very glad that youtube is showing more and more videos in HTML5. It works great on Sea Monkey and on Fx 10 ESR. In fact, HTML 5 is a life saver. I had to completely remove Flash from plugin browsers. That horrible plugin container on both Fx 10 and Sea Monkey was constantly wanting to start even though the web page had NO flash on it! That plugin container is a bat out of hell. I hate it and won't allow it to start unless I wish to play Flash content, there is Flash content on the page, and there is no HTML5 ability on the page. If a video can be played both in HTML5 and Flash, you cannot have both Flash and HTML5 if you are using Fx or SM as Flash and HTML5 fight each other at youtube. Plus, the plugin container is a HORROR because I filter everything through the Proxomitron (Sidki's latest filters from Dec 2011). This means NO ADS so need for Plugin container to want to start for Flash ads. Plus, if I wish to view Flash video on a page, Proxo gives me a toggle switch. If I toggle to see the Flash movie, then and ONLY then should Plugin container start. I block Plugin container and that created so many problems that I had to uninstall Flash for plugin browsers but would like to use it on Opera. However, Fx and SM will install it without my permission! That is UNACCEPTABLE and means that I can't have Flash for Opera. So, I am very happy to not need Flash at many sites now where HTML5 is used instead. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote: I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Of course. Did you look for one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/ -- (Remove any numerics from my email address.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 16/10/2012 6:50 AM, Desiree wrote: Ant ant@zimage.comANT wrote in message news:-ekdnxsweeqevobnnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org... On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are HTML5 and some are still Flash. But they're phasing in HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other mobiles. Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube added me into a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 ... I opted out and all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5 compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues like I mentioned. :( -- Ants die in sugar. --Malawi /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. I am very glad that youtube is showing more and more videos in HTML5. It works great on Sea Monkey and on Fx 10 ESR. In fact, HTML 5 is a life saver. I had to completely remove Flash from plugin browsers. That horrible plugin container on both Fx 10 and Sea Monkey was constantly wanting to start even though the web page had NO flash on it! That plugin container is a bat out of hell. I hate it and won't allow it to start unless I wish to play Flash content, there is Flash content on the page, and there is no HTML5 ability on the page. If a video can be played both in HTML5 and Flash, you cannot have both Flash and HTML5 if you are using Fx or SM as Flash and HTML5 fight each other at youtube. Plus, the plugin container is a HORROR because I filter everything through the Proxomitron (Sidki's latest filters from Dec 2011). This means NO ADS so need for Plugin container to want to start for Flash ads. Plus, if I wish to view Flash video on a page, Proxo gives me a toggle switch. If I toggle to see the Flash movie, then and ONLY then should Plugin container start. I block Plugin container and that created so many problems that I had to uninstall Flash for plugin browsers but would like to use it on Opera. However, Fx and SM will install it without my permission! That is UNACCEPTABLE and means that I can't have Flash for Opera. So, I am very happy to not need Flash at many sites now where HTML5 is used instead. Have you ever used the Adblock Plus together with the Flashblock add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job? AW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 4:48 AM PT, Ann Watson typed: Have you ever used the Adblock Plus together with the Flashblock add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job? Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P -- An ant hole may collapse an embankment. --Japanese /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 4:18 AM PT, Dave Royal typed: I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? ... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/ Ooh, but no SeaMonkey v2.1x support yet. :( -- The sun's just a big glass, we're all ants, I LOVE YOU. --Magnified song by the Failure band /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 7:18 AM, Dave Royal wrote: On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote: I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Of course. Did you look for one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/ Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says Stops autoplay of YouTube HTML5 videos and Please note that for now this extension works only on www.youtube.com. Why would I NOT want to see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com? Why else would one GO to youtube.com? I use Flashblock to block videos on other sites where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want that on youtube.com itself? Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 8:02 AM PT, Rav typed: Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says Stops autoplay of YouTube HTML5 videos and Please note that for now this extension works only on www.youtube.com. Why would I NOT want to see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com? Why else would one GO to youtube.com? I use Flashblock to block videos on other sites where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want that on youtube.com itself? Thanks. It can still be useful for those embedded YouTube videos on other non-YouTube.com web sites. -- I killed an ant, now all my relatives are afraid of me. --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 7:55 AM PT, Ant typed: I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? ... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/ Ooh, but no SeaMonkey v2.1x support yet. :( FYI from the developer: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:01:26 +0500 From: Kashif Iqbal Khan kash...@gmail.com To: Ant Subject: Re: Stop Tube HTML5 for Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1? Hello! At the moment, StopTube is not available for SeaMonkey. This extension works only on html5 videos hosted on [1]youtube.com. Regards, Kashif Iqbal Khan... -- I killed an ant, now all my relatives are afraid of me. --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 5:50 AM, Desiree wrote: Ant ant@zimage.comANT wrote in message news:-ekdnxsweeqevobnnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org... On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are HTML5 and some are still Flash. But they're phasing in HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other mobiles. Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube added me into a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 ... I opted out and all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5 compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues like I mentioned. :( -- Ants die in sugar. --Malawi /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. I am very glad that youtube is showing more and more videos in HTML5. It works great on Sea Monkey and on Fx 10 ESR. In fact, HTML 5 is a life saver. I had to completely remove Flash from plugin browsers. That horrible plugin container on both Fx 10 and Sea Monkey was constantly wanting to start even though the web page had NO flash on it! That plugin container is a bat out of hell. I hate it and won't allow it to start unless I wish to play Flash content, there is Flash content on the page, and there is no HTML5 ability on the page. If a video can be played both in HTML5 and Flash, you cannot have both Flash and HTML5 if you are using Fx or SM as Flash and HTML5 fight each other at youtube. Plus, the plugin container is a HORROR because I filter everything through the Proxomitron (Sidki's latest filters from Dec 2011). This means NO ADS so need for Plugin container to want to start for Flash ads. Plus, if I wish to view Flash video on a page, Proxo gives me a toggle switch. If I toggle to see the Flash movie, then and ONLY then should Plugin container start. I block Plugin container and that created so many problems that I had to uninstall Flash for plugin browsers but would like to use it on Opera. However, Fx and SM will install it without my permission! That is UNACCEPTABLE and means that I can't have Flash for Opera. So, I am very happy to not need Flash at many sites now where HTML5 is used instead. The purpose of the plugin container is to prevent Firefox from crashing when plugins that are compatible with it (plugin container) crash. How can this be a problem for you? DO you LIKE crashes? I never notice that it is running because I don't continuously monitor my processes. If you just let it do its job, there would be less trouble. Ads are NOT the only things that use Flash. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 12-10-16 11:02 AM, Rav wrote: On 10/16/2012 7:18 AM, Dave Royal wrote: On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote: I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Of course. Did you look for one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/ Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says Stops autoplay of YouTube HTML5 videos and Please note that for now this extension works only on www.youtube.com. Why would I NOT want to see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com? Why else would one GO to youtube.com? I use Flashblock to block videos on other sites where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want that on youtube.com itself? Thanks. It's not a matter of blocking videos, but stopping them from automatically playing when you load the webpage, so you can choose when to start playing the video. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Rav wrote: On 10/16/2012 7:18 AM, Dave Royal wrote: On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote: I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Of course. Did you look for one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/ Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says Stops autoplay of YouTube HTML5 videos and Please note that for now this extension works only on www.youtube.com. Why would I NOT want to see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com? Why else would one GO to youtube.com? I use Flashblock to block videos on other sites where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want that on youtube.com itself? Thanks. Occasionally I'll follow a link to Youtube then decide to watch one of the other shows. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ant wrote: On 10/16/2012 4:48 AM PT, Ann Watson typed: Have you ever used the Adblock Plus together with the Flashblock add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job? Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P Err, why? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear. Instead, I will move my computer into the bedroom. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Always remember to pillage BEFORE you burn. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 07:53 AM, Ant wrote: On 10/16/2012 4:48 AM PT, Ann Watson typed: Have you ever used the Adblock Plus together with the Flashblock add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job? Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P If I recall that you use Prefbar... right? I also recall that you commented and participated in my thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012 In that thread I gave how to create a WebM on/off button - the same as the Flash on/off button. For others that would like to read the thread open the search bar enter: Turn Off HTML5 That will take you directly to the thread. Note that Ant was the first to comment on that thread... Scroll down to: [WebM prefbar button] Re: [Solved] Re: Turn Off HTML5? and you'll find how to turn off WebM from about:config *and* how to add a WebM on/off button for Prefbar. crosspost to Firefox dropped as the thread is only in m.s.s. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome. -- Peter Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:02:31 -0400, Rav wrote: ...Why would I NOT want to see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com? Why else would one GO to youtube.com? ... Because people post links to youtube without saying what they are. When I've seen the youtube page I choose whether to play it. Usually not. -- (Remove any numerics from my email address.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:55:16 -0700, Ant wrote: On 10/16/2012 4:18 AM PT, Dave Royal typed: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/ Ooh, but no SeaMonkey v2.1x support yet. :( One of the reasons I gave up SM for Fx a few years back. Have you tried editing the addon to see if it works in SM anyway? Like it's described here but you have to add the SM UID (the long number) and version numbers for SM. Copy them from an xpi that works in SM. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_an_add-on_to_change_its_compatibility Apologies if this is too technical for you. I've no idea if it will work. Anybody know? I used to do it a lot with version numbers. Dave -- (Remove any numerics from my email address.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/12 9:05 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO have audio on Flash videos. Hmm. I get the video as Flash. The media.autoplay.enabled preference variable has no effect. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 9:07 AM PT, NoOp typed: Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P If I recall that you use Prefbar... right? I also recall that you commented and participated in my thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012 In that thread I gave how to create a WebM on/off button - the same as the Flash on/off button. For others that would like to read the thread open the search bar enter: Turn Off HTML5 That will take you directly to the thread. Note that Ant was the first to comment on that thread... Scroll down to: [WebM prefbar button] Re: [Solved] Re: Turn Off HTML5? and you'll find how to turn off WebM from about:config *and* how to add a WebM on/off button for Prefbar. crosspost to Firefox dropped as the thread is only in m.s.s. If turning off HTML5, wouldn't that be for ALL? I just want videos only. -- Be thine enemy an ant, see in him an elephant. --Turkish Proverb /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 8:50 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Have you ever used the Adblock Plus together with the Flashblock add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job? Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P Err, why? Because I don't want to play right away. Sometimes I open more than one tabs to watch later. -- Be thine enemy an ant, see in him an elephant. --Turkish Proverb /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/16/2012 9:49 AM PT, Dave Royal typed: One of the reasons I gave up SM for Fx a few years back. Yeah, it's frustrating. What do you use for e-mail, newsgroups, etc. since Firefox is only a web browser? Have you tried editing the addon to see if it works in SM anyway? Like it's described here but you have to add the SM UID (the long number) and version numbers for SM. Copy them from an xpi that works in SM. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_an_add-on_to_change_its_compatibility Apologies if this is too technical for you. I've no idea if it will work. Anybody know? I used to do it a lot with version numbers. Dave Too complex. I will wait. ;) -- Be thine enemy an ant, see in him an elephant. --Turkish Proverb /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test? -- Peter Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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[Followup-To: header set to mozilla.support.firefox.] On 2012-10-14, Rufus n...@home.com wrote: John Thompson wrote: Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and opt out of the HTML5 beta program. HTH... I never opted in, but I seem to get a random presentation of Flash and/or HTML5. Haven't noticed a problem with either, really. Other than that there are some vids I can't watch on my iPad because they aren't available in HTML5...and Apple nixed their Yoo2b app with iOS6. Darned proprietary systems, anyway... -- -John (j...@os2.dhs.org) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/14/2012 12:18 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) Odd... you participated in this thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/14/2012 12:18 PM PT, Ant typed: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? See http://i.imgur.com/F8Vfn.gif as example on how it messes up. :( -- But, you may argue, our uniqueness is so extreme! More extreme than the platypus which looks like a collection of leftover parts? More unique than the societal honeybee with its division of labor? More unique than the communist ants who keep aphids as farm animals? --John Logan /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are HTML5 and some are still Flash. But they're phasing in HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other mobiles. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are HTML5 and some are still Flash. But they're phasing in HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other mobiles. Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube added me into a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 ... I opted out and all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5 compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues like I mentioned. :( -- Ants die in sugar. --Malawi /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?
On Oct 14, 3:31 pm, Ant a...@zimage.comANT wrote: On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are HTML5 and some are still Flash. But they're phasing in HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other mobiles. Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube added me into a trial:http://www.youtube.com/html5... I opted out and all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5 compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues like I mentioned. :( -- Ants die in sugar. --Malawi /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @http://antfarm.ma.cx(Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links:http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. First, the videos shown on html5 pages are just the same as some types shown on lower versions of html and xhtml pages. The difference is that html5 capable browsers have a house player built in so that you do not have to have some player installed on you computer. Unfortunately not all html5 capable browsers support the same video type/types. However the author of the page can provide the video in ogg, mp4, etc., and the html5 video code can be written to select the type of video that the browser can use. Moreover, html5 will support just about any type of video using conventional installed players on the computer, including flash. Thus one can write an html5 page with video that will be supported on most browsers. One has a selection bar that allows the viewer to select the type of video to use. When selected, the server, using php server side script, is instructed to write the html suitable for the selected video and download it to the viewing browser. In addition, extensions of php allow graphics creation much as supported by some html5 capable browsers and flash. Unlike Javascript, the viewer can not meddle with the server side php script, as it is unavailable to the client computer. See http://www.cwdjr.net/video7/RoscoeGreetings.php for an example of the above. The situation is about the same for audio in html5. The various browser providers, as usual, have greatly contributed to the problem by not agreeing on the same standard video format for a house player in html5. In addition, different browsers do not yet support all, or the same, features of html5. It is also possible to use xhtml5 to retain the important features of xhtml such as xml support. In fact I usually use xhtml5 rather than html5. One can find a discussion of how to use xhtml5 at the W3C. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 2012-10-14, Rufus n...@home.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and opt out of the HTML5 beta program. HTH... -- -John (j...@os2.dhs.org) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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John Thompson wrote: On 2012-10-14, Rufus n...@home.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and opt out of the HTML5 beta program. HTH... I never opted in, but I seem to get a random presentation of Flash and/or HTML5. Haven't noticed a problem with either, really. Other than that there are some vids I can't watch on my iPad because they aren't available in HTML5...and Apple nixed their Yoo2b app with iOS6. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/14/2012 3:24 PM, Rufus wrote: Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Thank you in advance. :) They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are HTML5 and some are still Flash. But they're phasing in HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other mobiles. Not to mention multitudes of recent problems with Flashplayer! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 10/14/2012 2:18 PM PT, John Thompson typed: Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! :( I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist? Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and opt out of the HTML5 beta program. Yeah, I did earlier. Much better. Now when will this be rolled out to everyone who has HTML5 compatible web browsers? :( -- Look not to the windmill's turning while the ant still burrows. --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. A song is/was playing on this computer: daXX - Golden Axe Title Orchestra Remix ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
