Re: Installing Sea Monkey 2.53.6

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Vivian S. Ramalingam wrote:
I have completed installing 2.53.6 (from 2.49.5) but I keep getting 
request to install every time I open Sea Monkey. Docs tells me it is 
already installed. I completed useragent string reset, but I'm still 
getting the notice.


PLZ help!

Vivian Ramalingam


You are running on a Mac?

The only thing I can think of which could cause that is moving from a 
32-bit Seamonkey to a 64-bit version without uninstalling the 32-bit one 
first, but that applies to Windows.  No idea about Macs.



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Installing Sea Monkey 2.53.6

[Vivian S. Ramalingam]

  
  
I have completed installing 2.53.6 (from 2.49.5) but
  I keep getting request to install every time I open Sea Monkey.
  Docs tells me it is already installed. I completed useragent string
  reset, but I'm still getting the notice.
  
  PLZ help!
  
  Vivian Ramalingam

  

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HELLO - IS SEA MONKEY IS working WITH WINDOWS 10 ?

[Aaron Castiel]

 

 

Regards 

 

קסטיאל אהרן Aaron Castiel

לבנדר שיווק 

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forgot password for sea monkey e mail

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Re: Sea monkey transfer to bigger tank

[EE]

t...@corporateknights.com wrote:

Hi I have my sea monkeys in a mason jar (500ml). They are about one month old 
and more than 1 CM, but just 5 of them survived.

I would like to transfer them to a 1.5 litre mason jar but do not want to hurt 
them.

Below is my plan--is this is the right way?
Fill my 1.5 litre mason with 1 litre of bottled water. Add a packet of water 
purifier. Wait 24 hours. Add the 500ml along with the 5 sea monkeys from the 
existing 500ml mason jar.

Then continue to feed them every few days with the small scoop of growth food.

Is that correct?

Thank you,

Toby


This group is about an internet suite, not about pets.

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Sea monkey transfer to bigger tank

[toby]

Hi I have my sea monkeys in a mason jar (500ml). They are about one month old 
and more than 1 CM, but just 5 of them survived.

I would like to transfer them to a 1.5 litre mason jar but do not want to hurt 
them.

Below is my plan--is this is the right way?
Fill my 1.5 litre mason with 1 litre of bottled water. Add a packet of water 
purifier. Wait 24 hours. Add the 500ml along with the 5 sea monkeys from the 
existing 500ml mason jar. 

Then continue to feed them every few days with the small scoop of growth food. 

Is that correct?

Thank you,

Toby
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Sea Monkey email sender

[Brian Mair]

Hi,
I have an older computer and two new computers. All are Windows 10 based 
and all fitted with Sea Monkey v 2.49.5. The mail Server Settings, 
Account Settings and Outgoing Server (SMTP) settings are all identical 
and all receive the same emails however it is only possible to send 
emails from the old computer. In every case on the new computers a 
message "Öutgoing server (SMTP) password required" comes up and when the 
password is inserted a message "Login to server failed" occurs. Is there 
a ready solution to this? By way of information there is no problem 
receiving and sending emails from a "gmail" address on all computers

I would be grateful if you would comment.
Regards,
Brian Mair.
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Re: Sea monkey not keep up

[Yamo']

Hi,

FMurtz a tapoté le 08/10/2019 06:02:
> Seamonkey is becoming a problem, I keep having to use chrome as many 
> video links wont work on sea monkey like some utube clips etc.


Have you tried the latest build : 2.49.5?
Download on : <https://www.seamonkey-project.org/>


Personally I'm using the unofficial 2.53.1 with very little troubles
(some rare site work only on chromium).


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Re: sea monkey error message

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Sjouke Burry wrote:

On 10.09.19 21:02, shorrel.b...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not receiving email. We can send, but not receive.We get this 
error message, "Connection to server IMAP.charter.net timed out."

What's up?


Testing:
C:\01-sjouke\test>ping IMAP.charter.net

Pinging IMAP.charter.net [47.43.18.15] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 47.43.18.15:
     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\01-sjouke\test>

Try this in a cmd window on your computer.
You should get a response.
If not , it is either down, or has disappeared.


Not all sites/servers reply to ping requests, firewalls can be set to 
block them.


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Re: sea monkey error message

[Humpty Dumpty]

shorrel.b...@gmail.com wrote:

I am not receiving email. We can send, but not receive.We get this error message, 
"Connection to server IMAP.charter.net timed out."
What's up?


I  got a similar message. A reboot solved the problem.

Bill
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Re: sea monkey error message

[Sjouke Burry]

On 10.09.19 21:02, shorrel.b...@gmail.com wrote:

I am not receiving email. We can send, but not receive.We get this error message, 
"Connection to server IMAP.charter.net timed out."
What's up?


Testing:
C:\01-sjouke\test>ping IMAP.charter.net

Pinging IMAP.charter.net [47.43.18.15] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 47.43.18.15:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\01-sjouke\test>

Try this in a cmd window on your computer.
You should get a response.
If not , it is either down, or has disappeared.
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sea monkey error message

[shorrel . barb]

I am not receiving email. We can send, but not receive.We get this error 
message, "Connection to server IMAP.charter.net timed out."
What's up?
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Re: sea monkey email addy? importing to new Win 10 computer?

[WaltS48]

On 5/20/19 7:23 PM, Rose Hollins wrote:

Hi I'm new to sea monkey.
I urgently need a new email addy to which I can redirect emails to my 
old isp's email addy which is about to be discontinued. My new isp 
doesn't provide email services.


My new computer is on Windows 10. gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc aren't good 
enough. All my email folders etc etc have now been imported onto sea 
monkey from thunderbird in my old computer (Win 7) which I'm also 
continuing to use for now.


I intend to download firefox into my new computer as in this one - sea 
monkey failed to show up as browser on it, so I renewed firefox as default.


But the urgency is 1) a new email addy. Sea Monkey seemed to say it 
could provide one. If not, any good suggestions are very welcome - please!


2) To copy/import all my email data onto my new Win 10 computer, into 
sea monkey, after setting up redirect emails with my old addy, which of 
necessity I've used to download/sign into Sea Monkey.




SeaMonkey does not provide a new email address even though the Account 
Wizard opens with "New Account Setup" and "Email" selected.


That should probably say "Existing Account Setup" even if it is new to 
SeaMonkey.


So you already created the existing old ISP's account in SeaMonkey and 
you want to redirect or forward email from that account to the new 
account, but first you have to decide on a new provider?


I'd decide on the new provider, create the account in SeaMonkey, then 
call the old ISP's customer service and ask how I would accomplish that.


2) "Create a new profile and migrate your old data

Create a new profile in the desired location and then copy selected data 
from the old to the new profile.


If you're using Thunderbird or Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey Mail, you should 
include the prefs.js file (otherwise, you will need to recreate your 
mail accounts). Once you start your Mozilla application with the new 
profile, you should then check that you can see the folders for each 
account. If they're missing, use the "Browse" button for the local 
directory in your (Mail & Newsgroups) Account Settings -> Server 
Settings and (Mail & Newsgroups) Account Settings -> Local Folders to 
specify the correct account and mail directories."


REF: 
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder#Create_a_new_profile_and_migrate_your_old_data>


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sea monkey email addy? importing to new Win 10 computer?

[Rose Hollins]

  
  
Hi I'm new to sea monkey.
  I urgently need a new email addy to which I can redirect emails to
  my old isp's email addy which is about to be discontinued. My new
  isp doesn't provide email services. 
  
  My new computer is on Windows 10. gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc aren't
  good enough. All my email folders etc etc have now been imported
  onto sea monkey from thunderbird in my old computer (Win 7) which
  I'm also continuing to use for now.
  
  I intend to download firefox into my new computer as in this one -
  sea monkey failed to show up as browser on it, so I renewed firefox
  as default.
  
  But the urgency is 1) a new email addy. Sea Monkey seemed to say
  it could provide one. If not, any good suggestions are very
  welcome - please!
  
  2) To copy/import all my email data onto my new Win 10 computer,
  into sea monkey, after setting up redirect emails with my old
  addy, which of necessity I've used to download/sign into Sea
  Monkey.
   

  

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Re: syncing google with sea monkey?

[WaltS48]

On 4/18/19 6:58 PM, Bryan Roache wrote:

Hi, I need some help, finding an ad on, to sync my google Contacts to my sea 
monkey mail program as I can’t find the old ad on to do this. Does anyone have 
any ad on
suggestions to aid with this issue?



Maybe this one "Released July 16, 2018 330.9 KiB Works with SeaMonkey 
2.14 - 2.56, Thunderbird 17.0 - 65.0"


<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gcontactsync/versions/?page=1#version-3.0.0>

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Re: syncing google with sea monkey?

[David E. Ross]

On 4/18/2019 3:58 PM, Bryan Roache wrote:
> Hi, I need some help, finding an ad on, to sync my google Contacts to my sea 
> monkey mail program as I can’t find the old ad on to do this. Does anyone 
> have any ad on 
> suggestions to aid with this issue?
> 

Do you seek an ad as in "advertisement"?  Or is it an add-on as in
adding something to SeaMonkey?

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syncing google with sea monkey?

[Bryan Roache]

Hi, I need some help, finding an ad on, to sync my google Contacts to my sea 
monkey mail program as I can’t find the old ad on to do this. Does anyone have 
any ad on 
suggestions to aid with this issue?
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Re: Sea monkey and google

[Yamo']

Hi,

FMurtz a écrit le 21/11/2018 à 13:32 :
> FMurtz wrote:
>> Google is putting the cursor on the top line of the box instead of the 
>> beginning in centre of the box and limiting the characters on view in 
>> the box ( the first part of the querie disappears as you type after 
>> about twenty characters, this does not happen with google from IE and 
>> does not happen with duck duck go in sea monkey.
>> I have XP I have sea monkey 2.49.4
> 
> Did not really expect an answer, I can not remember when I ever got a 
> useful answer in this group.
> 

When spoofing the user agent for IE8 it works!

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Re: SEA MONKEY PROBLEMS URGENT

[Alexander Yudenitsch]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 20 Nov 18 07:23:


So, SM 2.57 should support web extensions AND XUL (legacy) extensions?

> Yes. Legacy extensions will have the same limitations as in TB60 and
might need changes if they are not trivial ones.


For me, that means "No", not "Yes": Support with "limitations [that] 
might need changes" isn't really 'supporting' them; maybe "SM 2.57 and 
TB 60 will tolerate some XUL (legacy) extensions" better expresses how I 
feel about it.


Actually, that's what I was expecting all along, including from what you 
said previously about this, but I was so surprised by the apparent 
change that I had to write.  Different meanings for the same word, 
then...  and my intent to stop at SM 53 remains in place.


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Re: SEA MONKEY PROBLEMS URGENT

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Yes. Legacy extensions will have the same limitations as in TB60 and might 
need changes if they are not trivial ones.


FRG

Alexander Yudenitsch wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 17 Nov 18 13:30:

SeaMonkey 2.57 will arrive with web extension support (not yet there) and 
should in theory then support newer versions.


So, SM 2.57 should support web extensions AND XUL (legacy) extensions?


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Re: SEA MONKEY PROBLEMS URGENT

[Alexander Yudenitsch]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 17 Nov 18 13:30:

SeaMonkey 2.57 will arrive with web extension support (not yet 
there) and should in theory then support newer versions.


So, SM 2.57 should support web extensions AND XUL (legacy) extensions?

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Re: SEA MONKEY PROBLEMS URGENT

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

And uBlock origin as a replacement for ABP is here:

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases/tag/firefox-legacy-1.16.4.5

The latest compatible ABP version is 2.91 and not recommended any longer. 
SeaMonkey 2.57 will arrive with web extension support (not yet there) and 
should in theory then support newer versions.


FRG

Richmond wrote:

computerslu...@gmail.com wrote:

1. no accept more installation of UBLOCK ORIGIN and ADP that are NECESSARY to 
surf the websites that now are full of shit ad's

2. from some day appear Google as wrong search line, position, and show words 
non in column but in rows

3. to do better the open time thanks


otherwise is better to migrate to Firefox (that I no like and becouse are 14 
years a use Sea Monkey!)

thanks



I use noscript classic for blocking ads. Select option to temporarily
allow top level sites by default -> base 2nd level domains.

https://noscript.net/getit

https://secure.informaction.com/download/releases/noscript-5.1.9.xpi


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Re: SEA MONKEY PROBLEMS URGENT

[Richmond]

computerslu...@gmail.com wrote:
> 1. no accept more installation of UBLOCK ORIGIN and ADP that are NECESSARY to 
> surf the websites that now are full of shit ad's
> 
> 2. from some day appear Google as wrong search line, position, and show words 
> non in column but in rows
> 
> 3. to do better the open time thanks
> 
> 
> otherwise is better to migrate to Firefox (that I no like and becouse are 14 
> years a use Sea Monkey!)
> 
> thanks
> 

I use noscript classic for blocking ads. Select option to temporarily
allow top level sites by default -> base 2nd level domains.

https://noscript.net/getit

https://secure.informaction.com/download/releases/noscript-5.1.9.xpi
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SEA MONKEY PROBLEMS URGENT

[computerslukas]

1. no accept more installation of UBLOCK ORIGIN and ADP that are NECESSARY to 
surf the websites that now are full of shit ad's

2. from some day appear Google as wrong search line, position, and show words 
non in column but in rows

3. to do better the open time thanks


otherwise is better to migrate to Firefox (that I no like and becouse are 14 
years a use Sea Monkey!)

thanks
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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[ronrobert . nh]

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 10:29:48 AM UTC-4, gemlakef...@gmail.com 
wrote:
> All - Suddenly after 15 years, the main tool bar with the File drop down box 
> and all the rest at the very top of the screen decided to take a hiatus.  I 
> have no idea where they've gone off to or when they will be back and this is 
> a problem.  I regularly edit documents in html in Sea Monkey and can't access 
> it.  Here's a couple of facts:
> 
> 1) There is no farthest left speckled rectangle normally used to hide and 
> expose this one of the three tool bars (if you can all the File  Edit  View 
> etc. bar a tool bar).  The other tool bars are there are working well.  No 
> vaca for them!
> 
> 2) I can open composer with the button situated at the left bottom bar of the 
> screen.  The problem is I have to open documents already started and do a 
> copy in past into the composer browser, name and save it each time I go in.  
> This is annoying, but more importantly can lead to errors.
> 
> Ideas?  I've searched, but not found this particular problem stated or 
> resolved anywhere on the www.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
> 
> ~Bobbie

Try right clicking the tool bar & check Menu Bar
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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[Paul B. Gallagher]

gemlakefarms1...@gmail.com wrote:


ALT-V did the trick! (is View for "View" or just an available
character, I wonder?)


Now that you can see the toolbar, you can see that one letter of each 
menu item is underlined. ALT plus that letter calls that item: ALT-F 
calls "File," ALT-E calls "Edit," etc.



Thank you very much, Paul, Ant and each of you who took a moment to
help. Also, I will keep the new profile idea in mind for other
minefields I may run into for temp or permanent resolution. Some
times I forget the basics.


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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[gemlakefarms1797]

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 10:29:48 AM UTC-4, gemlakef...@gmail.com 
wrote:
> All - Suddenly after 15 years, the main tool bar with the File drop down box 
> and all the rest at the very top of the screen decided to take a hiatus.  I 
> have no idea where they've gone off to or when they will be back and this is 
> a problem.  I regularly edit documents in html in Sea Monkey and can't access 
> it.  Here's a couple of facts:
> 
> 1) There is no farthest left speckled rectangle normally used to hide and 
> expose this one of the three tool bars (if you can all the File  Edit  View 
> etc. bar a tool bar).  The other tool bars are there are working well.  No 
> vaca for them!
> 
> 2) I can open composer with the button situated at the left bottom bar of the 
> screen.  The problem is I have to open documents already started and do a 
> copy in past into the composer browser, name and save it each time I go in.  
> This is annoying, but more importantly can lead to errors.
> 
> Ideas?  I've searched, but not found this particular problem stated or 
> resolved anywhere on the www.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
> 
> ~Bobbie

ALT-V did the trick! (is View for "View" or just an available character, I 
wonder?)

Thank you very much, Paul, Ant and each of you who took a moment to help. Also, 
I will keep the new profile idea in mind for other minefields I may run into 
for temp or permanent resolution. Some times I forget the basics.

All the Best!
~Bobbie
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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[gemlakefarms1797]

One by one I am responding to each suggestion that came through so quickly for 
the disappearance of my major "tool" bar.

Roger, F11 did make two of the two appearing tool bars disappear and then 
reappear, but still no "File, Edit, View" bar.  Thanks for the input just the 
same~!

~Bobbie
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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[Roger Fink]

On 9/25/2018 10:29 AM, gemlakefarms1...@gmail.com wrote:

All - Suddenly after 15 years, the main tool bar with the File drop down box 
and all the rest at the very top of the screen decided to take a hiatus.  I 
have no idea where they've gone off to or when they will be back and this is a 
problem.  I regularly edit documents in html in Sea Monkey and can't access it. 
 Here's a couple of facts:

1) There is no farthest left speckled rectangle normally used to hide and 
expose this one of the three tool bars (if you can all the File  Edit  View 
etc. bar a tool bar).  The other tool bars are there are working well.  No vaca 
for them!

2) I can open composer with the button situated at the left bottom bar of the 
screen.  The problem is I have to open documents already started and do a copy 
in past into the composer browser, name and save it each time I go in.  This is 
annoying, but more importantly can lead to errors.

Ideas?  I've searched, but not found this particular problem stated or resolved 
anywhere on the www.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

~Bobbie



What you have, I think, is SeaMonkey's "unique version" of toggle full 
screen. F11 should bring it back.

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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 9/25/2018 7:29 AM, gemlakefarms1...@gmail.com wrote:

All - Suddenly after 15 years, the main tool bar with the File drop down box 
and all the rest at the very top of the screen decided to take a hiatus.  I 
have no idea where they've gone off to or when they will be back and this is a 
problem.  I regularly edit documents in html in Sea Monkey and can't access it. 
 Here's a couple of facts:

1) There is no farthest left speckled rectangle normally used to hide and 
expose this one of the three tool bars (if you can all the File  Edit  View 
etc. bar a tool bar).  The other tool bars are there are working well.  No vaca 
for them!

2) I can open composer with the button situated at the left bottom bar of the 
screen.  The problem is I have to open documents already started and do a copy 
in past into the composer browser, name and save it each time I go in.  This is 
annoying, but more importantly can lead to errors.

Ideas?  I've searched, but not found this particular problem stated or resolved 
anywhere on the www.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.


Do you get a menu if you press alt key on the keyboard (assuming 
Windows)? If so, then check to see if you can enable the menu option 
from there.

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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[Paul B. Gallagher]

gemlakefarms1...@gmail.com wrote:


All - Suddenly after 15 years, the main tool bar with the File drop
down box and all the rest at the very top of the screen decided to
take a hiatus.  I have no idea where they've gone off to or when they
will be back and this is a problem.  I regularly edit documents in
html in Sea Monkey and can't access it.  Here's a couple of facts:

1) There is no farthest left speckled rectangle normally used to hide
and expose this one of the three tool bars (if you can all the File
Edit  View etc. bar a tool bar).  The other tool bars are there are
working well.  No vaca for them!

2) I can open composer with the button situated at the left bottom
bar of the screen.  The problem is I have to open documents already
started and do a copy in past into the composer browser, name and
save it each time I go in.  This is annoying, but more importantly
can lead to errors.

Ideas?  I've searched, but not found this particular problem stated
or resolved anywhere on the www.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.


Try doing ALT-V, and from the menu that appears, choose "Show/Hide" and 
check the box next to "Menu Bar."


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Re: Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/25/2018 09:29 AM, gemlakefarms1...@gmail.com wrote:

All - Suddenly after 15 years, the main tool bar with the File drop down box 
and all the rest at the very top of the screen decided to take a hiatus.  I 
have no idea where they've gone off to or when they will be back and this is a 
problem.  I regularly edit documents in html in Sea Monkey and can't access it. 
 Here's a couple of facts:

1) There is no farthest left speckled rectangle normally used to hide and 
expose this one of the three tool bars (if you can all the File  Edit  View 
etc. bar a tool bar).  The other tool bars are there are working well.  No vaca 
for them!

2) I can open composer with the button situated at the left bottom bar of the 
screen.  The problem is I have to open documents already started and do a copy 
in past into the composer browser, name and save it each time I go in.  This is 
annoying, but more importantly can lead to errors.

Ideas?  I've searched, but not found this particular problem stated or resolved 
anywhere on the www.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

~Bobbie



A diagnostic question.
What happens if you create an additional profile - accepting all defaults.
Do things work as expected with that profile?

Not quite a "stab in the dark".
Eons of trouble shooting before I retired. (i.e. divide and conquer ;)
HTH

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Sea Monkey Browser: "File Edit View, etc." tool bar Missing

[gemlakefarms1797]

All - Suddenly after 15 years, the main tool bar with the File drop down box 
and all the rest at the very top of the screen decided to take a hiatus.  I 
have no idea where they've gone off to or when they will be back and this is a 
problem.  I regularly edit documents in html in Sea Monkey and can't access it. 
 Here's a couple of facts:

1) There is no farthest left speckled rectangle normally used to hide and 
expose this one of the three tool bars (if you can all the File  Edit  View 
etc. bar a tool bar).  The other tool bars are there are working well.  No vaca 
for them!

2) I can open composer with the button situated at the left bottom bar of the 
screen.  The problem is I have to open documents already started and do a copy 
in past into the composer browser, name and save it each time I go in.  This is 
annoying, but more importantly can lead to errors.

Ideas?  I've searched, but not found this particular problem stated or resolved 
anywhere on the www.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

~Bobbie
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Re: Need Help with Sea Monkey "Save"

[WaltS48]

Lori wrote:

Sometimes SeaMonkey doesn't let me decide where to save files and sends
them to Download Manager.
Sometimes I can't open and re-locate a file from Download Manager.

Is there any way to cut out or control Download Manager?

TIA

Lori


From the Menu Bar select Edit > Preferences > Browser > Downloads and 
set it the way you would like it.

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Need Help with Sea Monkey "Save"

[Lori]

Sometimes SeaMonkey doesn't let me decide where to save files and sends 
them to Download Manager.

Sometimes I can't open and re-locate a file from Download Manager.

Is there any way to cut out or control Download Manager?

TIA

Lori
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Jonathan N. Little]

NoOp wrote:


2. Paste the following into the command prompt window:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe"
(be sure to include the quotation marks)


You might want to try safe mode:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode


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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[NoOp]

On 2/13/2017 11:29 AM, Larry S. wrote:
> Larry S. wrote:
>> Edmund Wong wrote:
>>> Larry S. wrote:
 My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
 worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
 Her other programs work perfectly.

 She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
 manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
 wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
 luck.

 Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

>>>
>>> How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
>>> or directly from the Program Files folder?
>>>
>>> I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
>>> folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.
>>>
>>> Edmund
>>>
>> Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able
>> to start SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but
>> unused, for 8-10 hours! However, thank you for being interested in our
>> mystery.
>>
>> Perplexing!
>>
>> Larry S.
> Thank you for the suggestions. Unfortunately, we did the disc check and 
> turned off the A-V; neither one made any difference.
> 
> Can't start in safe mode unless we can at least get SM to open.
> 
> Oh, Well . . . She has defaulted to getting her e-mail through Windows 
> 10 Mail, which has loads of problems but at least downloads her mail.
> 

Try from the command mode:
1. Right click the left window icon on the taskbar (sorry, I forget what
it is called - I normally use linux) and then left click on 'Command
Prompt'.
2. Paste the following into the command prompt window:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe"
(be sure to include the quotation marks)

If the command works, then you should see nothing in the Command Prompt
window except the standard 'C:\Users\> prompt and seamonkey should
open. If not, hopefully you'll get some text in the Command Prompt
window that may give a clue as to why seamonkey isn't starting.


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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Larry S.]

Larry S. wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.



How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
or directly from the Program Files folder?

I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.

Edmund


Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able
to start SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but
unused, for 8-10 hours! However, thank you for being interested in our
mystery.

Perplexing!

Larry S.
Thank you for the suggestions. Unfortunately, we did the disc check and 
turned off the A-V; neither one made any difference.


Can't start in safe mode unless we can at least get SM to open.

Oh, Well . . . She has defaulted to getting her e-mail through Windows 
10 Mail, which has loads of problems but at least downloads her mail.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Lee]

On 2/10/17, Frank-Rainer Grahl  wrote:
>
> The last time I had a similar problem I needed to do a disk check. The disk
> developed a fault:
>
> You can check if you disk is ok with:
>
> http://gsmartcontrol.sourceforge.net/home/index.php/Downloads

Also
http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm

I took a quick look at gsmartcontrol - very quick, so I probably
missed much, but diskcheckup keeps a history of smart values
automatically & if there's errors gives you a predicted failure date.
dunno how much history it needs to make a prediction tho

> Even then there might still be some file system corruption. Schedule full
> disk
> check from the the Windows drive icon.

good idea

Regards,
Lee

>
> FRG
>
> Larry S. wrote:
>> Edmund Wong wrote:
>>> Larry S. wrote:
 My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
 worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
 Her other programs work perfectly.

 She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
 task
 manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
 wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
 luck.

 Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

>>>
>>> How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
>>> or directly from the Program Files folder?
>>>
>>> I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
>>> folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.
>>>
>>> Edmund
>>>
>> Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able to
>>
>> start SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but unused,
>> for
>> 8-10 hours! However, thank you for being interested in our mystery.
>>
>> Perplexing!
>>
>> Larry S.
>
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Arnie Goetchius]

Larry S. wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Larry S. wrote:
>>> My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
>>> worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
>>> Her other programs work perfectly.
>>>
>>> She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
>>> manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
>>> wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.
>>>
>>
>> How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
>> or directly from the Program Files folder?
>>
>> I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
>> folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
> Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able to 
> start
> SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but unused, for 8-10
> hours! However, thank you for being interested in our mystery.
> 
> Perplexing!
> 
> Larry S.
Have you tried disabling your A-V program temporarily (until net re-boot) to see
if that makes a difference?

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[...winston]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Which Antivirus is she running?

Microsoft just rolled out the anniversary update to users of Windows
TH2. Had to block it in the vm because this version is just so much
garbage. If this qot installed it might have damaged or disabled
SeaMonkey but this is a full Windows install and you or she should have
noticed.

FRG

Larry S. wrote:


My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
task manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it
still wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of
programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.




2.46 running ok here on Win10 Pro 1607. I did have to use the Sidebar 
search option to set the default search engine to my preferred instead 
of DuckDuckGo.  Afaics, based on my mail, news, and surfing patterns 
everything that was was working in the prior SM versions is still 
working in SM2.46.


With respect to the Anniversary Update, I'm not sure 'just rollled out' 
for TH2 is current information unless it was throttled locally(GPO, 
etc.) for the last 6 months or not offered due to system compatibility 
or other means.
 - The Anniversary Update(1607) was rolled out to 1511 users last 
year(started in August  2016).  TH2 was an update for 1507(Win10 RTM) 
and released in the fall of 2015.


Unrelated 1507 reaches EOL(no support, no updates, no patches) next 
month March 2017.


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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

The last time I had a similar problem I needed to do a disk check. The disk 
developed a fault:


You can check if you disk is ok with:

http://gsmartcontrol.sourceforge.net/home/index.php/Downloads

Even then there might still be some file system corruption. Schedule full disk 
check from the the Windows drive icon.


FRG

Larry S. wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.



How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
or directly from the Program Files folder?

I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.

Edmund

Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able to 
start SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but unused, for 
8-10 hours! However, thank you for being interested in our mystery.


Perplexing!

Larry S.


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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Larry S.]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.



How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
or directly from the Program Files folder?

I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.

Edmund

Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able 
to start SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but 
unused, for 8-10 hours! However, thank you for being interested in our 
mystery.


Perplexing!

Larry S.
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Third Update (Still Nothing)

[Richmond]

"Larry S."  writes:


> Here's the odd thing. Once again, if the laptop sits for hours, unused but
> turned on, sometimes SM will start. Not predictable, though, so not
> reproducible. We're totally confused!

Maybe you have disk problems. Have you checked for errors in the event
log?
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Edmund Wong]

Larry S. wrote:
> My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
> worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
> Her other programs work perfectly.
> 
> She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
> manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
> wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.
> 
> Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.
> 

How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
or directly from the Program Files folder?

I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.

Edmund

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Third Update (Still Nothing)

[Larry S.]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.

O.K., we've tried several things as suggested. It won't open in safe mode.
Reinstalled it--still won't open. In Task Manager, doesn't matter if "End Task"
is used but still won't open. Note that it shows memory usage, but not processor
or HD usage.


Just to clarify, I assume that it shows memory usage BEFORE "End Task" is used
but after "End Task" is used, the program is completely gone from Task Manager?


All other programs still work (including Edge); please don't tell me we'll wind
up using Edge!

Larry S.



As to your clarify, yes, gone after TM but memory usage before.

Here's the odd thing. Once again, if the laptop sits for hours, unused 
but turned on, sometimes SM will start. Not predictable, though, so not 
reproducible. We're totally confused!

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Third Update (Still Nothing)

[Arnie Goetchius]

Larry S. wrote:
> Larry S. wrote:
>> My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
>> worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
>> Her other programs work perfectly.
>>
>> She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
>> manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
>> wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.
>>
>> Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.
>>
>> Larry S.
> O.K., we've tried several things as suggested. It won't open in safe mode.
> Reinstalled it--still won't open. In Task Manager, doesn't matter if "End 
> Task"
> is used but still won't open. Note that it shows memory usage, but not 
> processor
> or HD usage.

Just to clarify, I assume that it shows memory usage BEFORE "End Task" is used
but after "End Task" is used, the program is completely gone from Task Manager?

> All other programs still work (including Edge); please don't tell me we'll 
> wind
> up using Edge!
> 
> Larry S.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Third Update (Still Nothing)

[WaltS48]

Larry S. wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no 
luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
O.K., we've tried several things as suggested. It won't open in safe 
mode. Reinstalled it--still won't open. In Task Manager, doesn't 
matter if "End Task" is used but still won't open. Note that it shows 
memory usage, but not processor or HD usage.


All other programs still work (including Edge); please don't tell me 
we'll wind up using Edge!


Larry S.


Just booted the Windows 10 notebook and SeaMonkey starts up just fine.

Did you try renaming the profile and profile.ini and starting SeaMonkey?




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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Larry S.]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 2/9/2017 at 8:56 AM, WaltS48's prodigious digits fired off with great
aplomb:

On 02/09/2017 04:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk
when you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite
being in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part
of the normal Suite shutdown process.

However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite
running.

Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me
think this could be your situation!!

If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.

HTH



That's called .parentlock, found in the profile.

Shouldn't she have seen the SeaMonkey is already running message? That
would be a nice clue.

Won't start doesn't tell us much.



parent.lock in Windows. And it no longer is deleted. It survies shutting
down the program. Been that way for many versions.


O.K. deleted parent.lock in all three profiles (not sure which one is 
used by new installation). Yes, we shut down the program first (Task 
Manger). Still won't start.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Third Update (Still Nothing)

[Larry S.]

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
O.K., we've tried several things as suggested. It won't open in safe 
mode. Reinstalled it--still won't open. In Task Manager, doesn't matter 
if "End Task" is used but still won't open. Note that it shows memory 
usage, but not processor or HD usage.


All other programs still work (including Edge); please don't tell me 
we'll wind up using Edge!


Larry S.
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/9/2017 at 8:56 AM, WaltS48's prodigious digits fired off with great 
aplomb:

On 02/09/2017 04:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk
when you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite
being in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part
of the normal Suite shutdown process.

However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite
running.

Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me
think this could be your situation!!

If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.

HTH



That's called .parentlock, found in the profile.

Shouldn't she have seen the SeaMonkey is already running message? That
would be a nice clue.

Won't start doesn't tell us much.



parent.lock in Windows. And it no longer is deleted. It survies shutting 
down the program. Been that way for many versions.



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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Larry S.]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/09/2017 04:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk
when you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite
being in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part
of the normal Suite shutdown process.

However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite
running.

Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me
think this could be your situation!!

If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.

HTH



That's called .parentlock, found in the profile.

Shouldn't she have seen the SeaMonkey is already running message? That
would be a nice clue.

Won't start doesn't tell us much.

Normally she would have seen the message--is familiar with it--but this 
time no message. Yes, it doesn't tell us much either. Clicking on the 
icon (or the exe file)just simply doesn't give any response. Nothing.


She was able to get SM to start--once--after letting the computer just 
sit there, doing nothing, for hours. But not again.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[NFN Smith]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

In Windows the file is parent.lock



But in that situation you normally get a "SeaMonkey is already
running..." dialog. If OP gets no response at all it could be the
executable itself is either damaged, moved, or missing. Maybe the
shortcut is corrupted. Or a bad extension or plugin.

Could try launching in safemode:

seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

But if the executable is corrupted it might be easier just to
uninstall SeaMonkey and then reinstall it. It would fix all the above
issues with exception of a bad extension. Uninstalling SeaMonkey does
NOT remove your profile.


If those steps don't work, I'm inclined to believe that 
uninstall/reinstall won't do anything for you, unless there's indication 
that there's corruption to the program binaries or related registry 
entries.  In versions of Windows later than XP, that's unusual.


I suspect that there's corruption to your profile.  Safe Mode is a good 
first step, and I have seen it happen where something misbehaving goes 
away with a one-time start in Safe Mode, followed by a normal restart. 
And of course, Safe Mode is a way of quickly disabling your extensions, 
and resetting your prefs to default settings.


However, it's possible that there's something wrong in the profile 
that's beyond the ability of Safe Mode to fix. If that's the case, the 
way of getting things back to all defaults is to create a new user 
profile:


   seamonkey.exe -profilemanager

With Seamonkey, it's a little more effort to transition to a new profile 
than it is with Firefox, because of the considerations for the mail 
client. Beyond preference settings and extensions, most of what it takes 
in a browser is moving your bookmarks.


For email, if If you're using IMAP, it's not that big of a deal, 
although you do have to move your contacts list. However, if you are 
using POP, then you also have to move your mail stores. And if you're 
making more extensive use of the mail/news client (including rules, 
news, etc.) those are additional things to account for.


To do this, you don't have to disturb your existing profile, and it's 
not a problem to have multiple profiles defined. I believe that the 
design intent for multiple profiles (as with Windows and multiple user 
IDs) is to allow more than one person to share the machine, with some 
measure of privacy, and not getting in each other's way.


However, a different use of profiles can be for one user that has need 
for different configuration sets and preferences.  In normal usage, 
that's probably unusual, but it can be really useful for 
troubleshooting.  For me personally, on all my Mozilla apps (Seamonkey, 
Firefox and Thunderbird), I keep an extra profile called "Bare metal", 
where nearly all the config settings are default.  That way, if 
something is isn't behaving in my regular profile, I can switch over to 
the bare metal one, and see how things behave with default settings. I 
can't remember a time when I've been able to replicate a problem in a 
profile with default settings.


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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk when
you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite being
in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part of the
normal Suite shutdown process.

However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite
running.

Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me
think this could be your situation!!

If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.


In Windows the file is parent.lock



But in that situation you normally get a "SeaMonkey is already 
running..." dialog. If OP gets no response at all it could be the 
executable itself is either damaged, moved, or missing. Maybe the 
shortcut is corrupted. Or a bad extension or plugin.


Could try launching in safemode:

seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

But if the executable is corrupted it might be easier just to uninstall 
SeaMonkey and then reinstall it. It would fix all the above issues with 
exception of a bad extension. Uninstalling SeaMonkey does NOT remove 
your profile.


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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[WaltS48]

On 02/09/2017 04:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no 
luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or 
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk when 
you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite being 
in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part of the 
normal Suite shutdown process.


However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file 
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a 
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite 
running.


Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me 
think this could be your situation!!


If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that 
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.


HTH



That's called .parentlock, found in the profile.

Shouldn't she have seen the SeaMonkey is already running message? That 
would be a nice clue.


Won't start doesn't tell us much.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Daniel]

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or 
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk when 
you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite being 
in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part of the 
normal Suite shutdown process.


However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file 
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a 
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite 
running.


Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me 
think this could be your situation!!


If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that 
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.


HTH

--
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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[WaltS48]

Larry S. wrote:
My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it 
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing. 
Her other programs work perfectly.


She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on 
task manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it 
still wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of 
programs; no luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


It started right up on my Dell Inspiron 15 Windows 10 with latest update 
being, Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB3211320)


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


As far as I know there was no change to SeaMonkey since 2.46 was released.

As Richmond suggests, try running SeaMonkey from the command line and 
see if there are any error messages.


If all else fails, I would just uninstall and reinstall, after backing 
up the profile.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--2nd Update

[Richmond]

Larry S. wrote:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> Which Antivirus is she running?
>>
>> Microsoft just rolled out the anniversary update to users of Windows
>> TH2. Had to block it in the vm because this version is just so much
>> garbage. If this qot installed it might have damaged or disabled
>> SeaMonkey but this is a full Windows install and you or she should have
>> noticed.
>>
>> FRG
>>
>> Larry S. wrote:
>>
>>> My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
>>> worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
>>> Her other programs work perfectly.
>>>
>>> She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
>>> task manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it
>>> still wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of
>>> programs; no luck.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.
>>>
>>> Larry S.
> Unusual observation--all (every one) of the programs and services in 
> Task Manger are running. Maybe I'm obsolete, but I'm used to many 
> running but some not. Is this odd? A clue?
Maybe you could run seamonkey from the command line and see if there is
an error message?

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Update

[WaltS48]

On 02/08/2017 04:14 PM, Larry S. wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no 
luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
Under SM Properties, her computer shows a change yesterday. Was there a 
change? I didn't see it, but I'm on windows 7.  This is puzzling--she 
was using SM earlier this morning, but later couldn't get it to start 
again. Also, the anti-virus shows nothing.


The a-v is Zone Alarm. Re FRG's message, what are TH2 and vm?

Larry S.


TH2 is Threshold 2. 



vm is virtual machine. 

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--2nd Update

[Isaac Schemm]

Larry S. wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Which Antivirus is she running?

Microsoft just rolled out the anniversary update to users of Windows
TH2. Had to block it in the vm because this version is just so much
garbage. If this qot installed it might have damaged or disabled
SeaMonkey but this is a full Windows install and you or she should have
noticed.

FRG

Larry S. wrote:


My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
task manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it
still wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of
programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.



Unusual observation--all (every one) of the programs and services in
Task Manger are running. Maybe I'm obsolete, but I'm used to many
running but some not. Is this odd? A clue?


I'm on Windows 10 and the task manager only shows programs that are 
running. Not sure if it's changed since Windows 7 in that regard.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--2nd Update

[Larry S.]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Which Antivirus is she running?

Microsoft just rolled out the anniversary update to users of Windows
TH2. Had to block it in the vm because this version is just so much
garbage. If this qot installed it might have damaged or disabled
SeaMonkey but this is a full Windows install and you or she should have
noticed.

FRG

Larry S. wrote:


My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
task manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it
still wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of
programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Unusual observation--all (every one) of the programs and services in 
Task Manger are running. Maybe I'm obsolete, but I'm used to many 
running but some not. Is this odd? A clue?

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Update

[Larry S.]

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
Under SM Properties, her computer shows a change yesterday. Was there a 
change? I didn't see it, but I'm on windows 7.  This is puzzling--she 
was using SM earlier this morning, but later couldn't get it to start 
again. Also, the anti-virus shows nothing.


The a-v is Zone Alarm. Re FRG's message, what are TH2 and vm?

Larry S.
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[chicagofan]

Larry S. wrote:
My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it 
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing. 
Her other programs work perfectly.


She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on 
task manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it 
still wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of 
programs; no luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


My first and only thought is check any/all of her Win10 settings that 
could affect browser use.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Which Antivirus is she running?

Microsoft just rolled out the anniversary update to users of Windows 
TH2. Had to block it in the vm because this version is just so much 
garbage. If this qot installed it might have damaged or disabled 
SeaMonkey but this is a full Windows install and you or she should have 
noticed.


FRG

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it 
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing. 
Her other programs work perfectly.


She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task 
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still 
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


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Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Larry S.]

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it 
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing. 
Her other programs work perfectly.


She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task 
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still 
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
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Re: What Version of Sea Monkey is on my Computer?

[xcomm]

loriv...@gmail.com a écrit :

How can I tell what version of Sea Monkey is running on my PC - Windows 7?


You can write your message with SeaMonkey.
See this link to do that for exemple :
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/creating-newsgroup-account>

Then on your published message, you can select it on type "CTRL +u", and 
see the user-agent line to see the application version that is used.

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Re: What Version of Sea Monkey is on my Computer?

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loriv...@gmail.com wrote on 04-02-17 17:43:

How can I tell what version of Sea Monkey is running on my PC - Windows 7?

Click on "Help" then click on "About Seamonkey"
Here is mine:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46

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What Version of Sea Monkey is on my Computer?

[loriview]

How can I tell what version of Sea Monkey is running on my PC - Windows 7?
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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[uku69]

Ray_Net schrieb:

Hi !
The link must not be a link, just a pure text like:

FRITZ!Box Über HTTPS: 87.147.32.46

hi again,
of course... i wrote the wrong words. :-(
I'm sorry!


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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote on 04/10/2016 11:47:

Hi Ray,

But it's still detected as a SCAM.
Have look of my last post where I suggest a modification of the mail sent.

found out the same some mitutes ago.
However - i've contacted the manufacturer of the fritz!box and hope to get a 
response, that will solve this problem. I'll post a follow-up a.s.a.p.
The last suggestion simply to rnrich the link with more information will be very 
good, hope, they'll accept this & make a change...

Regards, Uwe.


Hi !
The link must not be a link, just a pure text like:

FRITZ!Box Über HTTPS: 87.147.32.46
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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Daniel]

On 4/10/2016 7:29 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote on 04/10/2016 10:12:

On 4/10/2016 7:23 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


I don't really understand, because if you are the sender, you can
change
the content of your mail.

I have tested sending to myself: test1 http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz Perfectly ACCEPTED when downloaded
I have tested sending to myself: test2 http://dyn.dns.org";>http://www.microsoft.com Detected a a
SCAM
when downloaded


Yes. The difference is the second case displays a URL, but the first
does not. A user seeing "Fritz" knows it's not a URL and will never be
fooled into thinking that's the target, but a user seeing
"http://www.microsoft.com"; may be fooled into thinking he's already
seeing the target. So only the second can be a scam.


I know, this is a busy, busy, world, we're all go go go, but before I
click on any link, I look at the bottom of the SM screen, where SM
displays the real link address!

Am I the only one??

(This reply has been typed in the dark, due to a power failure, so I
hope it makes some sense!!)


Me too But I have a case, when I must accept the scam and click on
the pseudo url.
I have asked the creator of the SCAM - He told me that the real url is a
site who collect for statistic the number of clicks on his link THEN
redirect you on the url address shown.
So the browser is really and finally on the page of the address shown,
but detoured for a moment on another site who collect the click.


Hmm! Seems a strange way of doing it, but O.K!! Why not use a visit 
counter on the real page??


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Uwe R. Kunzmann]

Hi Ray,
> But it's still detected as a SCAM.
> Have look of my last post where I suggest a modification of the mail sent.
found out the same some mitutes ago.
However - i've contacted the manufacturer of the fritz!box and hope to get a 
response, that will solve this problem. I'll post a follow-up a.s.a.p.
The last suggestion simply to rnrich the link with more information will be 
very good, hope, they'll accept this & make a change...

Regards, Uwe.

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

uku69 wrote on 04/10/2016 11:07:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

Yes. If you click the link in Ray_Net's message, SM won't take you right
there. First it will warn you:

SeaMonkey thinks this website is suspicious! It may be trying to
impersonate the web page you want to visit. Most legitimate websites use
names instead of numbers. Are you sure you want to visit 87.147.32.46?

[Yes] [No]


...and that's ok for me :-)

But it's still detected as a SCAM.
Have look of my last post where I suggest a modification of the mail sent.
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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

uku69 wrote on 04/10/2016 10:54:

Ray_Net schrieb:

   
 TEST 6
 
 
 FRITZ!Box über HTTPS: https://87.147.32.46";>https://87.147.32.46
   


and the scam is detected not because the real url is not the url shown -
BUT because the url is an ip-adress.
when  you have an ip-adress  You don't known where you will go if
you click on it - so it's a SCAM  !


Hi Ray,

thanks a lot for this information.
I will see, if the manufacturer will change something :-(

Have a nice day!


I have done a last test:
  
TEST 8
FRITZ!Box Ãœber HTTPS: https://87.147.32.46";>FRITZ!Box
  

AND it's also a SCAM
caused by the fact that the real url in not an named-url but an 
ip-adress-url.


So the best is to remove the link as this:

TEST 9
FRITZ!Box Über HTTPS: 87.147.32.46

This is the only solution I have found to give the information about the 
ip adress of the box, avoiding the SCAM detection.

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[uku69]

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

Yes. If you click the link in Ray_Net's message, SM won't take you right
there. First it will warn you:

SeaMonkey thinks this website is suspicious! It may be trying to
impersonate the web page you want to visit. Most legitimate websites use
names instead of numbers. Are you sure you want to visit 87.147.32.46?

[Yes] [No]


...and that's ok for me :-)
Thank you all for your help!

Regards - Uwe.

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:

uku69 wrote on 04/10/2016 10:31:

Ray_Net schrieb:

So the best idea is that you forward me your offending mail at my
mailbox.

Done - thanks!


Hi ! Thanks for forwarding  I have found the culprit 
I have done the test number 6 mimicking your offending mail - this is
what I have:

   
 TEST 6
 
 
 FRITZ!Box über HTTPS: https://87.147.32.46";>https://87.147.32.46
   


and the scam is detected not because the real url is not the url shown -
BUT because the url is an ip-adress.
when  you have an ip-adress  You don't known where you will go if
you click on it - so it's a SCAM  !


Yes. If you click the link in Ray_Net's message, SM won't take you right 
there. First it will warn you:


SeaMonkey thinks this website is suspicious! It may be trying to 
impersonate the web page you want to visit. Most legitimate websites use 
names instead of numbers. Are you sure you want to visit 87.147.32.46?


[Yes] [No]

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[uku69]

Ray_Net schrieb:

   
 TEST 6
 
 
 FRITZ!Box über HTTPS: https://87.147.32.46";>https://87.147.32.46
   


and the scam is detected not because the real url is not the url shown -
BUT because the url is an ip-adress.
when  you have an ip-adress  You don't known where you will go if
you click on it - so it's a SCAM  !


Hi Ray,

thanks a lot for this information.
I will see, if the manufacturer will change something :-(

Have a nice day!

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

uku69 wrote on 04/10/2016 10:31:

Ray_Net schrieb:
So the best idea is that you forward me your offending mail at my 
mailbox.

Done - thanks!


Hi ! Thanks for forwarding  I have found the culprit 
I have done the test number 6 mimicking your offending mail - this is 
what I have:


  
TEST 6


FRITZ!Box über HTTPS: https://87.147.32.46";>https://87.147.32.46
  


and the scam is detected not because the real url is not the url shown - 
BUT because the url is an ip-adress.
when  you have an ip-adress  You don't known where you will go if 
you click on it - so it's a SCAM  !

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[uku69]

Ray_Net schrieb:

So the best idea is that you forward me your offending mail at my mailbox.

Done - thanks!

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote on 04/10/2016 10:12:

On 4/10/2016 7:23 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I don't really understand, because if you are the sender, you can 
change

the content of your mail.

I have tested sending to myself: test1 http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz Perfectly ACCEPTED when downloaded
I have tested sending to myself: test2 href="http://dyn.dns.org";>http://www.microsoft.com Detected a a 
SCAM

when downloaded


Yes. The difference is the second case displays a URL, but the first
does not. A user seeing "Fritz" knows it's not a URL and will never be
fooled into thinking that's the target, but a user seeing
"http://www.microsoft.com"; may be fooled into thinking he's already
seeing the target. So only the second can be a scam.

I know, this is a busy, busy, world, we're all go go go, but before I 
click on any link, I look at the bottom of the SM screen, where SM 
displays the real link address!


Am I the only one??

(This reply has been typed in the dark, due to a power failure, so I 
hope it makes some sense!!)


Me too But I have a case, when I must accept the scam and click on 
the pseudo url.
I have asked the creator of the SCAM - He told me that the real url is a 
site who collect for statistic the number of clicks on his link THEN 
redirect you on the url address shown.
So the browser is really and finally on the page of the address shown, 
but detoured for a moment on another site who collect the click.

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Daniel]

On 4/10/2016 7:23 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


I don't really understand, because if you are the sender, you can change
the content of your mail.

I have tested sending to myself: test1 http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz Perfectly ACCEPTED when downloaded
I have tested sending to myself: test2 http://dyn.dns.org";>http://www.microsoft.com Detected a a SCAM
when downloaded


Yes. The difference is the second case displays a URL, but the first
does not. A user seeing "Fritz" knows it's not a URL and will never be
fooled into thinking that's the target, but a user seeing
"http://www.microsoft.com"; may be fooled into thinking he's already
seeing the target. So only the second can be a scam.

I know, this is a busy, busy, world, we're all go go go, but before I 
click on any link, I look at the bottom of the SM screen, where SM 
displays the real link address!


Am I the only one??

(This reply has been typed in the dark, due to a power failure, so I 
hope it makes some sense!!)


--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote on 03/10/2016 22:50:

another idea - what especially marks an "internet address"?
The correct link sample will be as following:
https://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz!Box - may cause the "!" this behaviour?


I have done another test as per your example.
This mail contains:

  
TEST 4:Â https://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz!Box
  

And SM did not detect a scam.

So the best idea is that you forward me your offending mail at my mailbox.
(Don't forget to remove the 3 "TBR" string out of my email adress.

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Uwe R. Kunzmann]

another idea - what especially marks an "internet address"? 
The correct link sample will be as following:
https://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz!Box - may cause the "!" this behaviour?

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Uwe R. Kunzmann]

Am Montag, 3. Oktober 2016 22:03:18 UTC+2 schrieb Ray_Net:
Hi Ray,

first - thanks fro testing!

> > Regards, Uwe.
> >
> I don't really understand, because if you are the sender, you can change 
> the content of your mail.
not really. the mail will be generated by the hardware i use. Of course that 
mail could be changed, but only if the manufacturer will change the mail - or 
if I will hack it. But hoever - these solutions are not ... feasible.

> 
> I have tested sending to myself: test1  href="http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz Perfectly ACCEPTED when downloaded
> I have tested sending to myself: test2  href="http://dyn.dns.org";>http://www.microsoft.com Detected a a SCAM 
> when downloaded

I saved a mail and opened it by a text editor.
However - I found no "hided" url masking in the mail. all links are directing 
to the original address - or they are similar to the first sample you tested. 
So I am in doubt, if the scam detections comes from there - or if it's caused 
by another reason. I'd like to post a complete mail body here, but I will not 
do that because of safety reasons. 
Would we have other possibilities to check out the reason for the scam marking? 
Could I debug that somehow? Or would it be possible to add or activate some 
debug informations?

Thanks - Uwe.
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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:


I don't really understand, because if you are the sender, you can change
the content of your mail.

I have tested sending to myself: test1 http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz Perfectly ACCEPTED when downloaded
I have tested sending to myself: test2 http://dyn.dns.org";>http://www.microsoft.com Detected a a SCAM
when downloaded


Yes. The difference is the second case displays a URL, but the first 
does not. A user seeing "Fritz" knows it's not a URL and will never be 
fooled into thinking that's the target, but a user seeing 
"http://www.microsoft.com"; may be fooled into thinking he's already 
seeing the target. So only the second can be a scam.


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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote on 03/10/2016 16:11:

Hi Ray,

So ask the sender to stop showing an url adress and if you click on it,
you will be directed to ANOTHER url adress.
You must be directed on the url adress that is shown .. NOT on another one.

The sender => I am.
Can I change the content of this mail? => No.

For better understanding:

If the link 'https://nobody.nowhere.org' directs to 
'https://nobody.nowhere.org', it will be ok. But if there's a link like 
following:
...composed by your http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz!Box
it will be not ok and thats the reason for scam marking?

Regards, Uwe.

I don't really understand, because if you are the sender, you can change 
the content of your mail.


I have tested sending to myself: test1 href="http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz Perfectly ACCEPTED when downloaded
I have tested sending to myself: test2 href="http://dyn.dns.org";>http://www.microsoft.com Detected a a SCAM 
when downloaded

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[EE]

Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote:

Hi folks,

I am using seamokey for a long while and I'm mostly satified ;-)

One of the things that bothers me, is the fact, that some e-mails from 
definitly trustworthy adresses will be marked as scam.
I can't find a solution, that

leaves the scam filter ON in general,
but marks special mails to be NO scam.

Is there a possibility to do so?

The best thing would be to have another filter, that can mark special e-mail-adresses as 
"no scam", but this feature is missing in the filter rules...
So if I can mark a message manually as "no scam", this shlould be possible also 
by a filter rule...

Thanks in advance!
uku69.

The Scam notification never did work properly in Thunderbird, and 
SeaMonkey has the core of Thunderbird.  I gave up on it.


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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Uwe R. Kunzmann]

Hi Ray,
> So ask the sender to stop showing an url adress and if you click on it, 
> you will be directed to ANOTHER url adress.
> You must be directed on the url adress that is shown .. NOT on another one.
The sender => I am.
Can I change the content of this mail? => No.

For better understanding:

If the link 'https://nobody.nowhere.org' directs to 
'https://nobody.nowhere.org', it will be ok. But if there's a link like 
following:
...composed by your http://dyn.dns.org";>Fritz!Box 
it will be not ok and thats the reason for scam marking?

Regards, Uwe.

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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Ray_Net]

Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote on 03/10/2016 14:21:

Am Montag, 3. Oktober 2016 12:24:08 UTC+2 schrieb Paul B. Gallagher:

FWIW, SM doesn't evaluate the sender. It just checks HTML links to see
whether the display address and the target match. If they don't, it
treats that as a scam.

Hi Paul,

sorry, I don't understand.
The problem I have, is that I get a daily report from my internet gateway - a 
Fritz!Box by AVM. For sending these push mails I use the address of my internet 
provider - and for receiving I have an address of my preferred e-mail provider.
The sending e-mail-address is used by a secure connection and well verified.
So the sender address matches with the first gateway and the receiver should be 
also correct. What's the problem that leads to a SCAM marking in that case?

I prefer also a bit more security, but that's too much.
Uwe.
So ask the sender to stop showing an url adress and if you click on it, 
you will be directed to ANOTHER url adress.

You must be directed on the url adress that is shown .. NOT on another one.
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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Uwe R. Kunzmann]

Am Montag, 3. Oktober 2016 12:24:08 UTC+2 schrieb Paul B. Gallagher:
> FWIW, SM doesn't evaluate the sender. It just checks HTML links to see 
> whether the display address and the target match. If they don't, it 
> treats that as a scam.

Hi Paul,

sorry, I don't understand.
The problem I have, is that I get a daily report from my internet gateway - a 
Fritz!Box by AVM. For sending these push mails I use the address of my internet 
provider - and for receiving I have an address of my preferred e-mail provider.
The sending e-mail-address is used by a secure connection and well verified.
So the sender address matches with the first gateway and the receiver should be 
also correct. What's the problem that leads to a SCAM marking in that case?

I prefer also a bit more security, but that's too much.
Uwe.
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Re: Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote:


Hi folks,

I am using seamokey for a long while and I'm mostly satified ;-)

One of the things that bothers me, is the fact, that some e-mails
from definitly trustworthy adresses will be marked as scam.


FWIW, SM doesn't evaluate the sender. It just checks HTML links to see 
whether the display address and the target match. If they don't, it 
treats that as a scam.


I can see where some users would want to whitelist trusted senders, and 
I can also see where other users would not want to do so. Personally, I 
prefer to have more info, so I would let SM caution me before I click. YMMV.


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Sea Monkey & SCAM: Looking for a possibility, to mark several adresses as "No SCAM"

[Uwe R. Kunzmann]

Hi folks,

I am using seamokey for a long while and I'm mostly satified ;-)

One of the things that bothers me, is the fact, that some e-mails from 
definitly trustworthy adresses will be marked as scam.
I can't find a solution, that

leaves the scam filter ON in general,
but marks special mails to be NO scam.

Is there a possibility to do so?

The best thing would be to have another filter, that can mark special 
e-mail-adresses as "no scam", but this feature is missing in the filter rules...
So if I can mark a message manually as "no scam", this shlould be possible also 
by a filter rule...

Thanks in advance!
uku69.
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Re: Sea Monkey browser

[Pat Connors]

I have SM 2.40 which I thought was the newest.  I wouldn't mind update 
to 2.46, but do not see if offered on the site.

Thanks for trying to help.

Would you be willing to give a stable build of SM 2.46 a try to see if 
it improves things?



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Re: Sea Monkey browser

[TCW]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:30:08 -0700, Pat Connors 
wrote:

>I recently bought a new Windows 10, 64 and it took me a while to get 
>SeaMonkey up and running.  Yesterday, I was on a Reddit website where 
>one can click on an up or down arrow to show whether you liked or 
>dislike a statement someone made.  I could not do so nor could I comment.
>
>I then went over on the Microsoft E browser and brought up the same page 
>and I could then do both the clicks and comments.
>
>Any suggestions on how I can get SeaMonkey to do the same, on the old 
>Windows 7 upgraded to Windows 10, it worked fine.  I am wondering if 
>there is something in my setup that I miss or didn't do correctly.
>
>-- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Would you be willing to give a stable build of SM 2.46 a try to see if
it improves things?
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Sea Monkey browser

[Pat Connors]

I recently bought a new Windows 10, 64 and it took me a while to get 
SeaMonkey up and running.  Yesterday, I was on a Reddit website where 
one can click on an up or down arrow to show whether you liked or 
dislike a statement someone made.  I could not do so nor could I comment.


I then went over on the Microsoft E browser and brought up the same page 
and I could then do both the clicks and comments.


Any suggestions on how I can get SeaMonkey to do the same, on the old 
Windows 7 upgraded to Windows 10, it worked fine.  I am wondering if 
there is something in my setup that I miss or didn't do correctly.


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Re: Sea Monkey and Windows 10 - Location of User Profile

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 19.07.2016 20:32, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> You can just enter about:support. 

Ah, yes, that's even more easy - for people who know the trick.

BTW: Manu 'Help → Troubleshooting Information' also will open
 with Profile Folder information.

CU

Rainer

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Re: Sea Monkey and Windows 10 - Location of User Profile

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

You can just enter about:support. Show Folder will open the current 
profile folder. The location is basically the same as in Windows Vista 
to 8.1.


Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

On 18.07.2016 19:48, Larry S. wrote:


W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the saved
version.




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Re: Sea Monkey and Windows 10

[Gerd Schweizer]

Larry S. schrieb:

Second try:

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10?

Here is the german version of W10 working also with Seamonkey.

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Re: Sea Monkey and Windows 10

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/19/2016 at 5:37 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 19/07/2016 9:16 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Second try:

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10? If not, what do I have to do so it
will work? Will it have to be reinstalled? Should it be uninstalled
before the conversion?

I save up-to-date copies of the profile and ini in a separate HD, but
in W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the
saved version. Help, anyone? (What is the path to the profile, and how
do I find it?) In W7 I know the answer, but W10 is a mystery with a
confusing UI.

What happens to extensions and plug-ins?

Larry S


Yes it is compatible with Windows 10 (although I see Windows 10 isn't
listed under System Requirements, looks like it needs updating).  You
shouldn't have to do anything, it should just work.  I have upgraded 3
systems (1 form Win7 and 2 from Win 8.1) and installed it on one new Win
10 system and have not had any problems.  Type about:profiles in the url
bar and it will tell you where your profile is located.  Or click Help,
Troubleshooting Information and click on about:profiles under
application basics.

Jim


Hmm! Jim, in my Win7 install, when I click on either of your
about:profiles above, I get a 

Invalid Address

The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded.

What am I doing wrong?? (By-the-By, at installation, I have done a
"Custom" Installation, placing my profile on my E:\ drive, although I
would expect this to affect SeaMonkey, as it still works with my
selected profile!!)



Apparently, about:profiles only works in Firefox, not SeaMonkey.


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Re: Sea Monkey and Windows 10

[W3BNR]

On 07/19/16 7:21 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Hmm! Jim, in my Win7 install, when I click on either of your
>> about:profiles above, I get a 
>>
>> Invalid Address
>>
>> The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?? (By-the-By, at installation, I have done a
>> "Custom" Installation, placing my profile on my E:\ drive, although I
>> would expect this to affect SeaMonkey, as it still works with my
>> selected profile!!)
>>
>
> Sorry I'm using 2.45a1 and didn't realize about:profiles wasn't in the current
> release.  Just checked my Win. 10 machine running 2.40 and it isn't there. 
> Not sure when it was added, looks like maybe
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179129 added it.
>
> Jim

It is in SM 2.44 x64 Build identifier: 20160608085536

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