Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Daniel]

On 6/05/2016 9:11 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2016-05-06 5:21 AM, gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


YES, I AM USING SEAMONKEY 2.43.


The latest release is 2.40. 

I noticed that in the post as well, Chris, and was thinking "Could he be 
using an Alpha or Nightly??" His User Agent of G2/1.0 doesn't help!


--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-05-06 5:21 AM, gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


YES, I AM USING SEAMONKEY 2.43.


The latest release is 2.40. 

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 12:01:16 PM UTC-7, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
> On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT), ...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> 
> >On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 6:40:24 AM UTC-7, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
> >> On Wed, 4 May 2016 13:10:36 -0700 (PDT), ...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)
> >> >Windows 7 32-bit
> >> >At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
> >> >Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager)
> >> >
> >> >Video card (info via Speccy program):
> >> >ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570
> >> >  ManufacturerATI
> >> >  Model   AMD Radeon HD 6570
> >> >  GPU Turks
> >> >  Device ID   1002-6759
> >> >  Subvendor   Diamond (1092)
> >> >  Current Performance Level   Level 0
> >> >  Voltage 0.900 V
> >> >  Die Size118 mm²
> >> >  Release DateApr 19, 2011
> >> >  DirectX Support 11.0
> >> >  DirectX Shader Model5.0
> >> >  OpenGL Support  4.2
> >> >  GPU Clock   650.0 MHz
> >> >  Temperature 52 °C
> >> >  Core Voltage1.050 V
> >> >  Bios Core Clock 100.00
> >> >  Bios Mem Clock  150.00
> >> >  Driver version  8.950.0.0
> >> >  BIOS Version113-930-930
> >> >  ROPs32
> >> >  Shaders 480 unified
> >> >  Memory Type DDR3
> >> >  Memory  2048 MB
> >> >  Pixel Fillrate  20.8 GPixels/s
> >> >  Bandwidth   21.3 GB/s
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for prompt response.
> >> >
> >> >--SLMorris
> >> 
> >> Since you're on a 32-bit system and some others have explained it's
> >> memory limits, you might be experiencing memory pressure issues.
> >> Meaning, you're hitting a memory ceiling and the system is starved for
> >> resources with your tabs open. These web sites might have intensive
> >> images and other resource gobbling code. If you have anything else
> >> running on your system while Firefox is running, it too will eat up
> >> memory only making the problem worse. Not much you can do.
> >> 
> >> You have a 4GB system with a 2GB video card. That 4GB of system RAM
> >> works out to be about 3.1GB usable to the *whole* system. It's a
> >> 32-bit OS limitation.  That 2GB video card eats up 2GB of RAM
> >> automatically for address space leaving you with 1.1GB of free RAM. If
> >> anything else is using memory, you're going to run out of free RAM
> >> quickly. Thus, experience CPU churn and hard disk swapping virtual
> >> RAM.
> >> 
> >> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
> >
> >@The Chicago Wolf:
> >
> >If the upper limit on a 32-bit system is 4GB, why are you saying that it's 
> >really 3.1 GB? Do you mean that if I switch out to 64-bit Win7, I will get 
> >the full 4GB?
> 
> It's possible it is reporting usable RAM at 3.5GB as you may not have
> many components in your system occupying address space. I'm not saying
> Speccy is wrong, but in most cases a 32-bit system with 4GB of RAM
> will have 3.1GB usable. With a 64-bit system, usable RAM on a 4GB
> system would be nearly the full 4GB.
> 
> On my lowly Latitude E6500 (released in 2008!) with 4GB RAM:
> 
> Physical Memory
> Memory Usage  65 %
> Total Physical3.93 GB
> Available Physical1.36 GB
> Total Virtual 7.85 GB
> Available Virtual 4.82 GB
> 
> As you can see, I'm seeing 3.93GB of the 4096 that 4GB of RAM totals.
> 
> >Right this second, Speccy (sysinfo untility) reports:
> >
> >Physical Memory
> > Memory Usage53 %
> > Total Physical  3.50 GB
> > Available Physical  1.62 GB
> > Total Virtual   7.00 GB
> > Available Virtual   4.32 GB
> >
> >Take a guess how much I want to:
> >(a) upgrade to 64-bit Windows 7;
> >(b) purchase new hardware.
> >
> >The only reason I upgraded from 64-bit WinXP to 32-bit Win7 is because I got 
> >a 5TB external USB 3.0 hard drive and WinXP-32 and Win XP-64 have a 2TB 
> >partition size limit and cannot see a drive that large (unless it's already 
> >formatted to partitions no larger than 2TB). That and the fact that 
> >Microsoft finally and completely dumped XP support.
> >
> >Whatever computer hardware I buy now can only be cheap used hardware at a 
> >local computer store that specializes in selling used PCs, presumably 
> >obsoleted out by businesses.
> 
> I don't know how new your system is presently, but you ought to be
> able to buy a used Optiplex 960, 980 or 7010 for cheap on eBay with a
> 64-bit version of Win 7. I think you might even be able to grab a
> 64-bit Win 10 install CD from Microsoft and use your 32-bit key. Might
> want to research that option a bit more.
> 
> 
> >Given what you wrote, and the fact that I have no money for new computer 
> >hardware, do you suggest: choosing the most resource-light browser I can 
> >find and then only running that browser on my system with no other programs 
> >running? I know this is a SeaMonkey site, but which browser is the least CPU 
> >& memory intensive?
> >
> >Note that my preferred method of Web-surfing means running 2 or 3 browsers 
> >(SM, FF and Maxthon) 

Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[EE]

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?


Not if you turn that off.  Personally, I hate automatic updates.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]]

On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 6:40:24 AM UTC-7, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2016 13:10:36 -0700 (PDT), ...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)
>> >Windows 7 32-bit
>> >At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
>> >Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager)
>> >
>> >Video card (info via Speccy program):
>> >ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570
>> >ManufacturerATI
>> >Model   AMD Radeon HD 6570
>> >GPU Turks
>> >Device ID   1002-6759
>> >Subvendor   Diamond (1092)
>> >Current Performance Level   Level 0
>> >Voltage 0.900 V
>> >Die Size118 mm²
>> >Release DateApr 19, 2011
>> >DirectX Support 11.0
>> >DirectX Shader Model5.0
>> >OpenGL Support  4.2
>> >GPU Clock   650.0 MHz
>> >Temperature 52 °C
>> >Core Voltage1.050 V
>> >Bios Core Clock 100.00
>> >Bios Mem Clock  150.00
>> >Driver version  8.950.0.0
>> >BIOS Version113-930-930
>> >ROPs32
>> >Shaders 480 unified
>> >Memory Type DDR3
>> >Memory  2048 MB
>> >Pixel Fillrate  20.8 GPixels/s
>> >Bandwidth   21.3 GB/s
>> >
>> >Thanks for prompt response.
>> >
>> >--SLMorris
>> 
>> Since you're on a 32-bit system and some others have explained it's
>> memory limits, you might be experiencing memory pressure issues.
>> Meaning, you're hitting a memory ceiling and the system is starved for
>> resources with your tabs open. These web sites might have intensive
>> images and other resource gobbling code. If you have anything else
>> running on your system while Firefox is running, it too will eat up
>> memory only making the problem worse. Not much you can do.
>> 
>> You have a 4GB system with a 2GB video card. That 4GB of system RAM
>> works out to be about 3.1GB usable to the *whole* system. It's a
>> 32-bit OS limitation.  That 2GB video card eats up 2GB of RAM
>> automatically for address space leaving you with 1.1GB of free RAM. If
>> anything else is using memory, you're going to run out of free RAM
>> quickly. Thus, experience CPU churn and hard disk swapping virtual
>> RAM.
>> 
>> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
>
>@The Chicago Wolf:
>
>If the upper limit on a 32-bit system is 4GB, why are you saying that it's 
>really 3.1 GB? Do you mean that if I switch out to 64-bit Win7, I will get the 
>full 4GB?

It's possible it is reporting usable RAM at 3.5GB as you may not have
many components in your system occupying address space. I'm not saying
Speccy is wrong, but in most cases a 32-bit system with 4GB of RAM
will have 3.1GB usable. With a 64-bit system, usable RAM on a 4GB
system would be nearly the full 4GB.

On my lowly Latitude E6500 (released in 2008!) with 4GB RAM:

Physical Memory
Memory Usage65 %
Total Physical  3.93 GB
Available Physical  1.36 GB
Total Virtual   7.85 GB
Available Virtual   4.82 GB

As you can see, I'm seeing 3.93GB of the 4096 that 4GB of RAM totals.

>Right this second, Speccy (sysinfo untility) reports:
>
>Physical Memory
>   Memory Usage53 %
>   Total Physical  3.50 GB
>   Available Physical  1.62 GB
>   Total Virtual   7.00 GB
>   Available Virtual   4.32 GB
>
>Take a guess how much I want to:
>(a) upgrade to 64-bit Windows 7;
>(b) purchase new hardware.
>
>The only reason I upgraded from 64-bit WinXP to 32-bit Win7 is because I got a 
>5TB external USB 3.0 hard drive and WinXP-32 and Win XP-64 have a 2TB 
>partition size limit and cannot see a drive that large (unless it's already 
>formatted to partitions no larger than 2TB). That and the fact that Microsoft 
>finally and completely dumped XP support.
>
>Whatever computer hardware I buy now can only be cheap used hardware at a 
>local computer store that specializes in selling used PCs, presumably 
>obsoleted out by businesses.

I don't know how new your system is presently, but you ought to be
able to buy a used Optiplex 960, 980 or 7010 for cheap on eBay with a
64-bit version of Win 7. I think you might even be able to grab a
64-bit Win 10 install CD from Microsoft and use your 32-bit key. Might
want to research that option a bit more.


>Given what you wrote, and the fact that I have no money for new computer 
>hardware, do you suggest: choosing the most resource-light browser I can find 
>and then only running that browser on my system with no other programs 
>running? I know this is a SeaMonkey site, but which browser is the least CPU & 
>memory intensive?
>
>Note that my preferred method of Web-surfing means running 2 or 3 browsers 
>(SM, FF and Maxthon) simultaneously with each browser running multiple tabs, 
>while at the same time playing music on the PC, perhaps also with Foxit (PDF 
>reader) and OpenOffice also running. When I monitor my system for the purpose 
>of this thread, then I do have only 1 browser (Seamonkey) 

Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 6:40:24 AM UTC-7, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2016 13:10:36 -0700 (PDT), ...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> 
> >SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)
> >Windows 7 32-bit
> >At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
> >Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager)
> >
> >Video card (info via Speccy program):
> >ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570
> > ManufacturerATI
> > Model   AMD Radeon HD 6570
> > GPU Turks
> > Device ID   1002-6759
> > Subvendor   Diamond (1092)
> > Current Performance Level   Level 0
> > Voltage 0.900 V
> > Die Size118 mm²
> > Release DateApr 19, 2011
> > DirectX Support 11.0
> > DirectX Shader Model5.0
> > OpenGL Support  4.2
> > GPU Clock   650.0 MHz
> > Temperature 52 °C
> > Core Voltage1.050 V
> > Bios Core Clock 100.00
> > Bios Mem Clock  150.00
> > Driver version  8.950.0.0
> > BIOS Version113-930-930
> > ROPs32
> > Shaders 480 unified
> > Memory Type DDR3
> > Memory  2048 MB
> > Pixel Fillrate  20.8 GPixels/s
> > Bandwidth   21.3 GB/s
> >
> >Thanks for prompt response.
> >
> >--SLMorris
> 
> Since you're on a 32-bit system and some others have explained it's
> memory limits, you might be experiencing memory pressure issues.
> Meaning, you're hitting a memory ceiling and the system is starved for
> resources with your tabs open. These web sites might have intensive
> images and other resource gobbling code. If you have anything else
> running on your system while Firefox is running, it too will eat up
> memory only making the problem worse. Not much you can do.
> 
> You have a 4GB system with a 2GB video card. That 4GB of system RAM
> works out to be about 3.1GB usable to the *whole* system. It's a
> 32-bit OS limitation.  That 2GB video card eats up 2GB of RAM
> automatically for address space leaving you with 1.1GB of free RAM. If
> anything else is using memory, you're going to run out of free RAM
> quickly. Thus, experience CPU churn and hard disk swapping virtual
> RAM.
> 
> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

@The Chicago Wolf:

If the upper limit on a 32-bit system is 4GB, why are you saying that it's 
really 3.1 GB? Do you mean that if I switch out to 64-bit Win7, I will get the 
full 4GB?

Right this second, Speccy (sysinfo untility) reports:

Physical Memory
Memory Usage53 %
Total Physical  3.50 GB
Available Physical  1.62 GB
Total Virtual   7.00 GB
Available Virtual   4.32 GB

Take a guess how much I want to:
(a) upgrade to 64-bit Windows 7;
(b) purchase new hardware.

The only reason I upgraded from 64-bit WinXP to 32-bit Win7 is because I got a 
5TB external USB 3.0 hard drive and WinXP-32 and Win XP-64 have a 2TB partition 
size limit and cannot see a drive that large (unless it's already formatted to 
partitions no larger than 2TB). That and the fact that Microsoft finally and 
completely dumped XP support.

Whatever computer hardware I buy now can only be cheap used hardware at a local 
computer store that specializes in selling used PCs, presumably obsoleted out 
by businesses.

Given what you wrote, and the fact that I have no money for new computer 
hardware, do you suggest: choosing the most resource-light browser I can find 
and then only running that browser on my system with no other programs running? 
I know this is a SeaMonkey site, but which browser is the least CPU & memory 
intensive?

Note that my preferred method of Web-surfing means running 2 or 3 browsers (SM, 
FF and Maxthon) simultaneously with each browser running multiple tabs, while 
at the same time playing music on the PC, perhaps also with Foxit (PDF reader) 
and OpenOffice also running. When I monitor my system for the purpose of this 
thread, then I do have only 1 browser (Seamonkey) open. However, right now I am 
running both FF and SM and CPU usage ranges primarily from 15-30% (while 
watching Task Manager I also see spikes to 55%).

Thank you.

--SLMorris
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]]

On Wed, 4 May 2016 13:10:36 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com
wrote:

>SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)
>Windows 7 32-bit
>At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
>Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager)
>
>Video card (info via Speccy program):
>ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570
>   ManufacturerATI
>   Model   AMD Radeon HD 6570
>   GPU Turks
>   Device ID   1002-6759
>   Subvendor   Diamond (1092)
>   Current Performance Level   Level 0
>   Voltage 0.900 V
>   Die Size118 mm²
>   Release DateApr 19, 2011
>   DirectX Support 11.0
>   DirectX Shader Model5.0
>   OpenGL Support  4.2
>   GPU Clock   650.0 MHz
>   Temperature 52 °C
>   Core Voltage1.050 V
>   Bios Core Clock 100.00
>   Bios Mem Clock  150.00
>   Driver version  8.950.0.0
>   BIOS Version113-930-930
>   ROPs32
>   Shaders 480 unified
>   Memory Type DDR3
>   Memory  2048 MB
>   Pixel Fillrate  20.8 GPixels/s
>   Bandwidth   21.3 GB/s
>
>Thanks for prompt response.
>
>--SLMorris

Since you're on a 32-bit system and some others have explained it's
memory limits, you might be experiencing memory pressure issues.
Meaning, you're hitting a memory ceiling and the system is starved for
resources with your tabs open. These web sites might have intensive
images and other resource gobbling code. If you have anything else
running on your system while Firefox is running, it too will eat up
memory only making the problem worse. Not much you can do.

You have a 4GB system with a 2GB video card. That 4GB of system RAM
works out to be about 3.1GB usable to the *whole* system. It's a
32-bit OS limitation.  That 2GB video card eats up 2GB of RAM
automatically for address space leaving you with 1.1GB of free RAM. If
anything else is using memory, you're going to run out of free RAM
quickly. Thus, experience CPU churn and hard disk swapping virtual
RAM.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]]

On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
>> 
>> Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. 
>> Now what??
>
>Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
>
>http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

The Seamonkey build and update system has been busted for quite some
time now on Mozilla.org. However...

Please try with 2.43 from here as it's being built by a Mozilla person
on a loaner machine until they fix things properly at Mozilla.:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/



Also read https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2340.

"Adrian Kalla is still producing his localized builds. Ratty suggests
that we should put out a notice on the default SM start page to tell
people where they can download the latest 2.4x release builds
(Mozilla-release is currently at Firefox 45 which corresponds to
SeaMonkey 2.42)."

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Paul B. Gallagher]

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

xxx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?


Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??


Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
problem), or was that a typo?

--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher


What 5-year-old software?


SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.

--
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--
Paul B. Gallagher


I already answered.

2.40 Two point four zero


OK, two point forty. Thanks for your first clear answer. The only other 
time you'd mentioned two point forty was to say that there are no more 
recent versions than that -- as if you thought "2.4 = 2.40." It isn't.


So we'll have to look elsewhere for the problem.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Paul in Houston, TX]

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


2 Seamonkey windows, first with 1 tab, second with 20, 6 of which are Facebook. 
Facebook is one of those sites that normally kills my browser. CPU% went up to 
65% while pages loading, now in the teens, was below that, right now went up to 
52% while I was typing, right now at 13-23%.
Seamonkey is using 1.0 GB of memory.
Anybody care to guess what the problem was and what happened?


Not enough memory for all those things.
32 bit limits you to about 4g ram.
Vital processes and video will eat about 1.5g, leaving you 2.5g to do fun stuff 
with.
Don't run anything else at the same time as SM and keep tabs to absolute min, like less 
than 2.  Clear SM cache often, let Win handle the o/s page file.


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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:37:55 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:08:06 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > > xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > > >> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> > > >>> wrote:
> > >  On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> > >  wrote:
> > > > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates 
> > > > automatically!?!?
> > > 
> > >  Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
> > >  window. Now what??
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> > > >>
> > > >> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
> > > >> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
> > > >> problem), or was that a typo?
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Paul B. Gallagher
> > > >
> > > > What 5-year-old software?
> > > 
> > > SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > > --
> > > Paul B. Gallagher
> > 
> > I already answered.
> > 
> > 2.40 Two point four zero
> 
> TWO POINT FOUR ZERO
> 
> I already tried Safe Mode. It did not help at all.
> 
> Per Speccy: here's the software and hardware (video card detailed above but 
> repeated now):
> 
> Operating System
>   Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1
>   Computer type: Desktop
>   Installation Date: 12/23/2015 4:13:11 AM
>   Serial Number: X-X-X-X-X
>   Windows Security Center
>   User Account Control (UAC)  Disabled
>   Windows Update
>   AutoUpdate  Notify prior to download
>   Windows Defender
>   Windows DefenderEnabled
>   .NET Frameworks installed
>   v4.6 Full
>   v4.6 Client
>   v3.5 SP1
>   v3.0 SP2
>   v2.0 SP2
>   Internet Explorer
>   Version 11.0.9600.18124
> CPU
>   AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
>   Cores   2
>   Threads 2
>   NameAMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
>   Code Name   Brisbane
>   Package Socket  AM2 (940)
>   Technology  65nm
>   Specification   AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
>   Family  F
>   Extended Family F
>   Model   B
>   Extended Model  6B
>   Stepping1
>   RevisionBH-G1
>   InstructionsMMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2,
>   SSE3, AMD 64, NX, VMX
>   Virtualization  Supported, Enabled
>   Hyperthreading  Not supported
>   Fan Speed   1473 RPM
>   Rated Bus Speed 1004.4 MHz
>   Stock Core Speed2100 MHz
>   Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz
>   Average Temperature 34 °C
>   Caches
>   L1 Data Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
>   L1 Instructions Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
>   L2 Unified Cache Size   2 x 512 KBytes
>   Cores [table, deleted here]
> RAM
>   Memory slots
>   Total memory slots  4
>   Used memory slots   4
>   Free memory slots   0
>   Memory
>   TypeDDR2
>   Size4096 MBytes
>   Channels #  Dual
>   DRAM Frequency  200.9 MHz
>   CAS# Latency (CL)   6 clocks
>   RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)   6 clocks
>   RAS# Precharge (tRP)6 clocks
>   Cycle Time (tRAS)   18 clocks
>   Bank Cycle Time (tRC)   25 clocks
>   Command Rate (CR)   2T
>   Physical Memory
>   Memory Usage43 %
>   Total Physical  3.50 GB
>   Available Physical  1.96 GB
>   Total Virtual   7.00 GB
>   Available Virtual   5.17 GB
>   SPD
>  

Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:08:06 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > >> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> > >>> wrote:
> >  On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> >  wrote:
> > > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> > 
> >  Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
> >  window. Now what??
> > >>>
> > >>> Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
> > >> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
> > >> problem), or was that a typo?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > >> --
> > >> Paul B. Gallagher
> > >
> > > What 5-year-old software?
> > 
> > SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.
> > 
> > -- 
> > War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > --
> > Paul B. Gallagher
> 
> I already answered.
> 
> 2.40 Two point four zero

TWO POINT FOUR ZERO

I already tried Safe Mode. It did not help at all.

Per Speccy: here's the software and hardware (video card detailed above but 
repeated now):

Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1
Computer type: Desktop
Installation Date: 12/23/2015 4:13:11 AM
Serial Number: X-X-X-X-X
Windows Security Center
User Account Control (UAC)  Disabled
Windows Update
AutoUpdate  Notify prior to download
Windows Defender
Windows DefenderEnabled
.NET Frameworks installed
v4.6 Full
v4.6 Client
v3.5 SP1
v3.0 SP2
v2.0 SP2
Internet Explorer
Version 11.0.9600.18124
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
Cores   2
Threads 2
NameAMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
Code Name   Brisbane
Package Socket  AM2 (940)
Technology  65nm
Specification   AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
Family  F
Extended Family F
Model   B
Extended Model  6B
Stepping1
RevisionBH-G1
InstructionsMMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2,
SSE3, AMD 64, NX, VMX
Virtualization  Supported, Enabled
Hyperthreading  Not supported
Fan Speed   1473 RPM
Rated Bus Speed 1004.4 MHz
Stock Core Speed2100 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz
Average Temperature 34 °C
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
L1 Instructions Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
L2 Unified Cache Size   2 x 512 KBytes
Cores [table, deleted here]
RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots  4
Used memory slots   4
Free memory slots   0
Memory
TypeDDR2
Size4096 MBytes
Channels #  Dual
DRAM Frequency  200.9 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL)   6 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)   6 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP)6 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS)   18 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC)   25 clocks
Command Rate (CR)   2T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage43 %
Total Physical  3.50 GB
Available Physical  1.96 GB
Total Virtual   7.00 GB
Available Virtual   5.17 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules   4
Slot #1
Slot #2
Slot #3
Slot #4
Motherboard

Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> >> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
>  On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> 
>  Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
>  window. Now what??
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> >>
> >> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
> >> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
> >> problem), or was that a typo?
> >>
> >> --
> >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> >> --
> >> Paul B. Gallagher
> >
> > What 5-year-old software?
> 
> SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher

I already answered.

2.40 Two point four zero
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Paul B. Gallagher]

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

xxx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?


Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??


Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
problem), or was that a typo?

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What 5-year-old software?


SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[WaltS48]

On 05/04/2016 06:24 PM, gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

xxx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?

Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??

Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
problem), or was that a typo?


Paul B. Gallagher

What 5-year-old software?


Dude just answer the question. Are you using SeaMonkey 2.40 or the five 
year old 2.4 version.


It would be nice to know.

We got it it you are running a 32-bit version on a 32-bit OS. What is 
your CPU speed? How much memory does your computer have?


What are the addresses of the 14 tabs you have open that are causing 
your problem?


Those are just some of the things you should have stated in your first 
post, and need to answer if you want help.


Do you know what safe mode is? Have you tried it?



Does it solve your problem?

If not did you try a new profile?



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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> >>
> >> Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
> >> window. Now what??
> >
> > Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> >
> > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are 
> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the 
> problem), or was that a typo?
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher

What 5-year-old software?
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Paul B. Gallagher]

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?


Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??


Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are 
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the 
problem), or was that a typo?


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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> 
> Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. 
> Now what??

Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?

Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[WaltS48]

On 05/04/2016 03:08 PM, gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

Right now SeaMonkey is consuming 85% of my CPU. I am not watching any Flash 
videos, I am just surfing. I have one instance of SeaMonkey running and 14 tabs 
open.


It must hungry and the CPU tasty.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Ant]

On 5/4/2016 1:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)


Say again???

SeaMonkey 2.4 was released September 27, 2011.


Maybe v2.40. :P
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Paul B. Gallagher]

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)


Say again???

SeaMonkey 2.4 was released September 27, 2011.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)
Windows 7 32-bit
At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager)

Video card (info via Speccy program):
ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570
ManufacturerATI
Model   AMD Radeon HD 6570
GPU Turks
Device ID   1002-6759
Subvendor   Diamond (1092)
Current Performance Level   Level 0
Voltage 0.900 V
Die Size118 mm²
Release DateApr 19, 2011
DirectX Support 11.0
DirectX Shader Model5.0
OpenGL Support  4.2
GPU Clock   650.0 MHz
Temperature 52 °C
Core Voltage1.050 V
Bios Core Clock 100.00
Bios Mem Clock  150.00
Driver version  8.950.0.0
BIOS Version113-930-930
ROPs32
Shaders 480 unified
Memory Type DDR3
Memory  2048 MB
Pixel Fillrate  20.8 GPixels/s
Bandwidth   21.3 GB/s

Thanks for prompt response.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]]

On Wed, 4 May 2016 12:08:55 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com
wrote:

>Right now SeaMonkey is consuming 85% of my CPU. I am not watching any Flash 
>videos, I am just surfing. I have one instance of SeaMonkey running and 14 
>tabs open.

What version of Seamonkey? 32 or 64-bit? What version of Flash? What
video card and driver version? What OS? OS is 32 or 64 bit? Need more
info.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
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SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

[gobruins91786]

Right now SeaMonkey is consuming 85% of my CPU. I am not watching any Flash 
videos, I am just surfing. I have one instance of SeaMonkey running and 14 tabs 
open.
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