Re: What theme do you use?

2014-03-04 Thread chicagofan

EE wrote:

WaltS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


Well, I'm really sad today, I decided to add Walnut 2 to my choices of
themes, and it worked fine except it doesn't allow me to see the
address/subject lines in the compose e-mail window.   I still like the
no white backgrounds style of Walnut though.



I see the address/subject lines in the compose window using the Walnut 2
theme.


Anyway, I clicked to enable my Hearts persona and answer my mail, 
and it

is not the persona that I had.  It now has just a black border.  Is the
old style gone, where can I determine if it is still available, or is
there just something wrong with my version of SM?  [I am using 2.17.l
now.] TIA for any help.  :)
bj


Don't know what Hearts theme you may be talking about, so I added
Assorted Hearts, restarted and everything looks fine.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.24.


I added 8 themes to SeaMonkey.  Some were older and have needed 
patching to work with SeaMonkey's present capabilities, but I could 
copy code from themes that have been kept up to date.


Blue Essence 1.1 - old - needed much patching, but worth it
Classic Firefox theme for SM 0.0.13 - improved by giving it Halloween 
colours

Early Blue 2.24 - up to date
Firefox 3 theme for SM 1.2.0 - improved with Glowywine colours
Kilome 2.3 - a bit out of date - improved with Bloody Red colours
LCARStrek 2.24 - up to date
SeaMonkey Gray Modern  1.0 - improved with Pitchdark colours  sepia 
buttons -

given own internal name
Walnut2 2.0.22 - almost up to date - had to change import lines in 
messenger.css

 messageWindow.css



Nice list.  I have several of those.

For anyone who wonders if I solved the problem with my favorite persona, 
I realized it messed up because it has been removed from the SeaMonkey 
archive.  So, I googled for it and found it listed under Firefox 
additions.  When I clicked to install, it gave me an almost instant pop 
up that it was installed, and when I restarted this time, it was back as 
it was originally.   Don't know what bug kept it from remaining there 
correctly, when I added a different theme, but I am just delighted that 
I could get it back.  It is puzzling that it is still listed under 
Firefox but not SeaMonkey though.:)

bj

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Re: What theme do you use?

2014-03-03 Thread EE

WaltS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Desiree wrote:

On 11/26/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how
many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been
being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme,
or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I use a Persona.  I think Personas use the default theme's
buttons...they used to do that...but I don't know what theme the
buttons belong to today.  I haven't used a theme since Personas were
first introduced for Fx and Sm.  I have several Personas for each
browser and I change them frequently.

I think any problems are due to the buttons used not any Persona.
Plus, I know persona was dropped but calling Personas themes now
and calling what used to be themes complete themes now is confusing
and convoluted.

So, I think what you want to know is what, if any, complete theme is
being used by SeaMonkey users not what persona or theme (as they are
now called) is being used.


LOL... I am really confused now, so all I can say is I'm using what is
known to me as a Persona, and it's one of the reasons I am lagging
on SM updates.  I don't want to lose it.   :)   Haven't had a problem
with the spell window if that matters.
bj



Well, I'm really sad today, I decided to add Walnut 2 to my choices of
themes, and it worked fine except it doesn't allow me to see the
address/subject lines in the compose e-mail window.   I still like the
no white backgrounds style of Walnut though.




I see the address/subject lines in the compose window using the Walnut 2
theme.



Anyway, I clicked to enable my Hearts persona and answer my mail, and it
is not the persona that I had.  It now has just a black border.  Is the
old style gone, where can I determine if it is still available, or is
there just something wrong with my version of SM?  [I am using 2.17.l
now.] TIA for any help.  :)
bj



Don't know what Hearts theme you may be talking about, so I added
Assorted Hearts, restarted and everything looks fine.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.24.


I added 8 themes to SeaMonkey.  Some were older and have needed patching 
to work with SeaMonkey's present capabilities, but I could copy code 
from themes that have been kept up to date.


Blue Essence 1.1 - old - needed much patching, but worth it
Classic Firefox theme for SM 0.0.13 - improved by giving it Halloween 
colours

Early Blue 2.24 - up to date
Firefox 3 theme for SM 1.2.0 - improved with Glowywine colours
Kilome 2.3 - a bit out of date - improved with Bloody Red colours
LCARStrek 2.24 - up to date
SeaMonkey Gray Modern  1.0 - improved with Pitchdark colours  sepia 
buttons -

given own internal name
Walnut2 2.0.22 - almost up to date - had to change import lines in 
messenger.css

 messageWindow.css

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Re: What theme do you use?

2014-03-02 Thread chicagofan

chicagofan wrote:

Desiree wrote:

On 11/26/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how 
many

many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been 
being

discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?

I use a Persona.  I think Personas use the default theme's 
buttons...they used to do that...but I don't know what theme the 
buttons belong to today.  I haven't used a theme since Personas were 
first introduced for Fx and Sm.  I have several Personas for each 
browser and I change them frequently.


I think any problems are due to the buttons used not any Persona. 
Plus, I know persona was dropped but calling Personas themes now 
and calling what used to be themes complete themes now is confusing 
and convoluted.


So, I think what you want to know is what, if any, complete theme is 
being used by SeaMonkey users not what persona or theme (as they are 
now called) is being used.


LOL... I am really confused now, so all I can say is I'm using what is 
known to me as a Persona, and it's one of the reasons I am lagging 
on SM updates.  I don't want to lose it.   :)   Haven't had a problem 
with the spell window if that matters.

bj


Well, I'm really sad today, I decided to add Walnut 2 to my choices of 
themes, and it worked fine except it doesn't allow me to see the 
address/subject lines in the compose e-mail window.   I still like the 
no white backgrounds style of Walnut though.


Anyway, I clicked to enable my Hearts persona and answer my mail, and it 
is not the persona that I had.  It now has just a black border.  Is the 
old style gone, where can I determine if it is still available, or is 
there just something wrong with my version of SM?  [I am using 2.17.l 
now.] TIA for any help.  :)

bj
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Re: What theme do you use?

2014-03-02 Thread WaltS

chicagofan wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Desiree wrote:

On 11/26/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how
many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been
being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I use a Persona.  I think Personas use the default theme's
buttons...they used to do that...but I don't know what theme the
buttons belong to today.  I haven't used a theme since Personas were
first introduced for Fx and Sm.  I have several Personas for each
browser and I change them frequently.

I think any problems are due to the buttons used not any Persona.
Plus, I know persona was dropped but calling Personas themes now
and calling what used to be themes complete themes now is confusing
and convoluted.

So, I think what you want to know is what, if any, complete theme is
being used by SeaMonkey users not what persona or theme (as they are
now called) is being used.


LOL... I am really confused now, so all I can say is I'm using what is
known to me as a Persona, and it's one of the reasons I am lagging
on SM updates.  I don't want to lose it.   :)   Haven't had a problem
with the spell window if that matters.
bj



Well, I'm really sad today, I decided to add Walnut 2 to my choices of
themes, and it worked fine except it doesn't allow me to see the
address/subject lines in the compose e-mail window.   I still like the
no white backgrounds style of Walnut though.




I see the address/subject lines in the compose window using the Walnut 2 
theme.




Anyway, I clicked to enable my Hearts persona and answer my mail, and it
is not the persona that I had.  It now has just a black border.  Is the
old style gone, where can I determine if it is still available, or is
there just something wrong with my version of SM?  [I am using 2.17.l
now.] TIA for any help.  :)
bj



Don't know what Hearts theme you may be talking about, so I added 
Assorted Hearts, restarted and everything looks fine.


I am using SeaMonkey 2.24.
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Re: What theme do you use?

2014-03-02 Thread chicagofan

WaltS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Well, I'm really sad today, I decided to add Walnut 2 to my choices of
themes, and it worked fine except it doesn't allow me to see the
address/subject lines in the compose e-mail window.   I still like the
no white backgrounds style of Walnut though.




I see the address/subject lines in the compose window using the Walnut 
2 theme.


Where is whatever you click to open or close the address/subject lines 
on the tool bars?  I couldn't find anything.





Anyway, I clicked to enable my Hearts persona and answer my mail, and it
is not the persona that I had.  It now has just a black border. Is the
old style gone, where can I determine if it is still available, or is
there just something wrong with my version of SM?  [I am using 2.17.l
now.] TIA for any help.  :)
bj



Don't know what Hearts theme you may be talking about, so I added 
Assorted Hearts, restarted and everything looks fine.


I am using SeaMonkey 2.24.


It is The Heart Demands and did have hearts and flowers on it.  I saw 
after looking again at what is available now through Add Ons that it has 
disappeared.   I just don't see why adding Walnut and reverting back to 
it... changed what I had.   :(   So I guess unless I restore a backup 
it's just gone, as I feared it might be, if I updated SM [which I did 
several months ago to what I thought might be a safe version from what i 
had read].   :)



Thanks for your response!
bj



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Re: What theme do you use?

2014-03-02 Thread WaltS

chicagofan wrote:

WaltS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Well, I'm really sad today, I decided to add Walnut 2 to my choices of
themes, and it worked fine except it doesn't allow me to see the
address/subject lines in the compose e-mail window.   I still like the
no white backgrounds style of Walnut though.




I see the address/subject lines in the compose window using the Walnut
2 theme.


Where is whatever you click to open or close the address/subject lines
on the tool bars?  I couldn't find anything.





I see what you mean now. It is missing, but can be restored using the 
default theme. Just click the  under Send, Address, Attach, c.





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Re: What theme do you use?

2014-03-02 Thread chicagofan

WaltS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

WaltS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Well, I'm really sad today, I decided to add Walnut 2 to my choices of
themes, and it worked fine except it doesn't allow me to see the
address/subject lines in the compose e-mail window.   I still like the
no white backgrounds style of Walnut though.




I see the address/subject lines in the compose window using the Walnut
2 theme.


Where is whatever you click to open or close the address/subject lines
on the tool bars?  I couldn't find anything.




I see what you mean now. It is missing, but can be restored using the 
default theme. Just click the  under Send, Address, Attach, c.


Thanks, Walt!  I'll check that out tomorrow.  Do you know how I can get 
rid of that TABS bar in e-mail in the Walnut theme?  I thought I clicked 
every where to see if there was a customize option for it but didn't 
find it.   TIA ... if you know.   :)

bj
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-06 Thread Wolf

LnrB schrieb, Am 01.12.2013 01:28:

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


Modern Theme since NS7 was released in August 2002.
(';')


Modern Theme, small icons with text, the best you can get, I love it.

Greetings
Wolf

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2013 4:28 PM PT, LnrB typed:

Modern Theme since NS7 was released in August 2002.
(';')


IIRC, modern theme was out with Mozilla suites that Netscape v6 was 
based on.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Exalm

NoOp пишет:

I like that theme. Unfortunately I ran into this issue:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=5t=2743823
quote
I've noticed since SM 2.20 that a small white box was appearing in the
top-left of my screen and staying there, on top of everything else. I
didn't think it was anything to do with SeaMonkey until one day I tried
to track it down and after closing all programs, I checked the Task
Manager and noticed that SM was still running. When I killed it, the
white box disappeared.

I've tracked it down to the new mail notification box. I no longer get
the little box in the bottom-right of the screen nor do I get a tray
notification icon.
/quote

At first I thought it was libnotify/libindicatior/etc or some other
system issue, but after removing the theme and restarting with the
default SeaMonkey theme, everything is back to normal.


Thanks, fixed for GNOMErunner/GTK Revived 0.3. :)
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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread regz91

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/1/13 3:32 PM +0900, regz91 wrote:

LnrB wrote:

WaltS wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This
theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/



I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
(';')

You should have tried out more newbie friendly distros rather than using
build everything yourself and use command line for everything
distros.


You must mean Slackware. :^)

Yes. slack is included. The best list of easy to use vs difficult to use 
distros is beautifully compiled by Arch wiki. Whatever is put  under 
Source-based and Minimalist are going to be really tough to use.


Link:- 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions


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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread WaltS

On 12/01/2013 08:29 AM, regz91 wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/1/13 3:32 PM +0900, regz91 wrote:

LnrB wrote:

WaltS wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This
theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily,
but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/



I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
(';')

You should have tried out more newbie friendly distros rather than using
build everything yourself and use command line for everything
distros.


You must mean Slackware. :^)


Yes. slack is included. The best list of easy to use vs difficult to use
distros is beautifully compiled by Arch wiki. Whatever is put  under
Source-based and Minimalist are going to be really tough to use.

Link:-
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions




Must be why I switched from Fedora to openSUSE :)

[quote]
openSUSE is centered around the RPM package format and its well-regarded 
YaST2 GUI-driven configuration tool, which is a one-stop shop for most 
users' system configuration needs, including package management. Arch 
does not offer such a facility as it goes against The Arch Way. 
openSUSE, therefore, is widely regarded as more appropriate for 
less-experienced users, or those who want a more GUI-driven environment, 
auto-configuration and expected functionality out of the box.

[/quote]

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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Trane Francks

On 12/1/13 10:29 PM +0900, regz91 wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/1/13 3:32 PM +0900, regz91 wrote:

LnrB wrote:

WaltS wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This
theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/



I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
(';')

You should have tried out more newbie friendly distros rather than using
build everything yourself and use command line for everything
distros.


You must mean Slackware. :^)


Yes. slack is included. The best list of easy to use vs difficult to use
distros is beautifully compiled by Arch wiki. Whatever is put  under
Source-based and Minimalist are going to be really tough to use.

Link:-
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions

I learned Linux on Slackware, starting with Slackware 3.1 (AKA Slackware 
96). I stuck with the distro through Slackware 12.0, after which I 
bailed to OS X as my primary OS. As a web host admin, I also work with 
CentOS and Ubuntu. I rather like Ubuntu, but still have an emotional 
connection with Slack after all these years.


There was a time in Slackware's history where Patrick decided to drop 
SeaMonkey as an official package. I was most grateful when he reversed 
the decision. SeaMonkey is still maintained as an official package under 
Slackware.


One of the great things about SeaMonkey over all my years with it is 
that its profiles port easily between Linux and OS X. When I moved from 
Linux to Tiger, all that was required was FTPing my profile from the 
Linux box to Tiger and changing write perms. It simply could not have 
been easier. Much love to SeaMonkey in that regard.


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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread sean nathan

WaltS wrote, On 11/30/2013 10:17 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:

Hi,

Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?


https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/


I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also every
time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This theme
not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?







It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/




ahhh ... have never messed with debian (obviously), my linux distro is 
peppermintOS


http://www.peppermintos.com

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread LnrB

Ant wrote:

On 11/30/2013 4:28 PM PT, LnrB typed:
 Modern Theme since NS7 was released in August 2002.
 (';')

IIRC, modern theme was out with Mozilla suites that Netscape v6 was
based on.


But I didn't use NS6 nor Mozilla at that time so I didn't use the Modern 
Theme.


I've used the Modern Theme *since NS7 was released*.
(';')
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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread LnrB

regz91 wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:
 On 12/1/13 3:32 PM +0900, regz91 wrote:
 LnrB wrote:
 WaltS wrote:
 sean nathan wrote:
  Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
  Hi,
 
  Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
  What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?
 
  https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/
 
  I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
  personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
 every
  time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This
 theme
  not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...
 
  This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
  I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?
 
 
 
 


 It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

 http://www.debian.org/


 I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
 that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
 (';')
 You should have tried out more newbie friendly distros rather than using
 build everything yourself and use command line for everything
 distros.

 You must mean Slackware. :^)

Yes. slack is included. The best list of easy to use vs difficult to use
distros is beautifully compiled by Arch wiki. Whatever is put  under
Source-based and Minimalist are going to be really tough to use.

Link:-
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions



Dennis sent me a CD of Slackware once, trying to help out.  It wouldn't 
even install!  THAT was the frosting on the proverbial Penguin cake.

(';')
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


Do you use buttons, or just text? I set to display both, and I click the
button not the text.

The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything else
passable is still beyond me...



I show just text, Ive always felt the buttons waste valuable vertical
space. I never noticed the Download Progress Progress even had buttons.
It's only there for a brief second or two.

GW


What's valuable space in a dialog that you're going to close once the
action is complete?


we /were/ talking about toolbarsWhere else is there a Reply button?

You changed the topic in your head

GW
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


Do you use buttons, or just text? I set to display both, and I click
the
button not the text.

The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything else
passable is still beyond me...



I show just text, Ive always felt the buttons waste valuable vertical
space. I never noticed the Download Progress Progress even had buttons.
It's only there for a brief second or two.

GW


What's valuable space in a dialog that you're going to close once the
action is complete?


we /were/ talking about toolbarsWhere else is there a Reply button?

You changed the topic in your head

GW


...no, you *assumed* I was talking about Toolbars - my problem isn't 
with the Toolbars and never was.  It's with the overly small interface 
buttons in the Download Progress dialog, and always has been.


The Toolbars are just fine and maintain the size/design standard of the 
rest of the Theme; though as I've said I don't click on text I click on 
buttons.  The Download Progress graphic interface has violated 
that...for no good reason.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking
any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


Do you use buttons, or just text? I set to display both, and I click
the
button not the text.

The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything else
passable is still beyond me...



I show just text, Ive always felt the buttons waste valuable vertical
space. I never noticed the Download Progress Progress even had buttons.
It's only there for a brief second or two.

GW


What's valuable space in a dialog that you're going to close once the
action is complete?


we /were/ talking about toolbarsWhere else is there a Reply button?

You changed the topic in your head

GW


...no, you *assumed* I was talking about Toolbars - my problem isn't
with the Toolbars and never was. It's with the overly small interface
buttons in the Download Progress dialog, and always has been.



I don't think those are Theme related.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking
any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


Do you use buttons, or just text? I set to display both, and I click
the
button not the text.

The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything
else
passable is still beyond me...



I show just text, Ive always felt the buttons waste valuable vertical
space. I never noticed the Download Progress Progress even had
buttons.
It's only there for a brief second or two.

GW


What's valuable space in a dialog that you're going to close once the
action is complete?


we /were/ talking about toolbarsWhere else is there a Reply
button?

You changed the topic in your head

GW


...no, you *assumed* I was talking about Toolbars - my problem isn't
with the Toolbars and never was. It's with the overly small interface
buttons in the Download Progress dialog, and always has been.



I don't think those are Theme related.

GW


They at least matched the rest of the SM Modern Theme in size until they 
were changed and made too small - I don't know what they look like in 
the Default now.  But they can't be changed by the user - they're locked 
into the dialog box formatting.


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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Dennis
LnrB wrote:
 regz91 wrote:
 Trane Francks wrote:
 On 12/1/13 3:32 PM +0900, regz91 wrote:
 LnrB wrote:
 WaltS wrote:
 sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
 every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This
 theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






 It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

 http://www.debian.org/


 I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
 that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
 (';')
 You should have tried out more newbie friendly distros rather than using
 build everything yourself and use command line for everything
 distros.

 You must mean Slackware. :^)

 Yes. slack is included. The best list of easy to use vs difficult to use
 distros is beautifully compiled by Arch wiki. Whatever is put  under
 Source-based and Minimalist are going to be really tough to use.

 Link:-
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions

 
 Dennis sent me a CD of Slackware once, trying to help out.  It wouldn't 
 even install!  THAT was the frosting on the proverbial Penguin cake.
 (';')
 

I do remember sending you a CD of a linux distribution but in all
honesty I do not recall sending Slackware. Knowing that you were new to
linux I believe I would have sent something a little easier, maybe Suse.
The free version of Suse is now openSuse. Slackware is not really hard
to install but at the time it did not have a simple GUI installer and
involved a lot of choices during the install. Back then if linux did not
want to install there were a couple of quick edits that could easily be
done during the boot process that would have probably worked. I do not
remember if you asked for help trying to install or not.

Now, I rarely have any problems installing linux on any machine. It just
seems to work.

Dennis

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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-12-01 Thread Dennis
Dennis wrote:
 LnrB wrote:
 regz91 wrote:
 Trane Francks wrote:
 On 12/1/13 3:32 PM +0900, regz91 wrote:
 LnrB wrote:
 WaltS wrote:
 sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
 every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This
 theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






 It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

 http://www.debian.org/


 I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
 that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
 (';')
 You should have tried out more newbie friendly distros rather than using
 build everything yourself and use command line for everything
 distros.

 You must mean Slackware. :^)

 Yes. slack is included. The best list of easy to use vs difficult to use
 distros is beautifully compiled by Arch wiki. Whatever is put  under
 Source-based and Minimalist are going to be really tough to use.

 Link:-
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions


 Dennis sent me a CD of Slackware once, trying to help out.  It wouldn't 
 even install!  THAT was the frosting on the proverbial Penguin cake.
 (';')

 
 I do remember sending you a CD of a linux distribution but in all
 honesty I do not recall sending Slackware. Knowing that you were new to
 linux I believe I would have sent something a little easier, maybe Suse.
 The free version of Suse is now openSuse. Slackware is not really hard
 to install but at the time it did not have a simple GUI installer and
 involved a lot of choices during the install. Back then if linux did not
 want to install there were a couple of quick edits that could easily be
 done during the boot process that would have probably worked. I do not
 remember if you asked for help trying to install or not.
 
 Now, I rarely have any problems installing linux on any machine. It just
 seems to work.
 

After slightly more thought, that was quite a while ago. I was probably
using RedHat and would have probably sent that CD to you. I didn't
switch to Suse/openSuse until 2007.

Dennis


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread sean nathan

Ed Mullen wrote, On 11/27/2013 12:33 AM:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?


Seamonkey Modern... no issues with cut off drop down menus on my machine.



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OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread sean nathan

Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:

Hi,

Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?


https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/


I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on 
personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also every 
time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This theme 
not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...


This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but 
I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?





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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread WaltS

sean nathan wrote:

Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:

Hi,

Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?


https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/


I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also every
time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This theme
not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?







It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


Do you use buttons, or just text? I set to display both, and I click the
button not the text.

The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything else
passable is still beyond me...



I show just text, Ive always felt the buttons waste valuable vertical 
space.  I never noticed the Download Progress Progress even had buttons. 
 It's only there for a brief second or two.


GW
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread LnrB

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


Modern Theme since NS7 was released in August 2002.
(';')
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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread LnrB

WaltS wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/


I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head 
that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.

(';')
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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread WaltS

On 11/30/2013 07:32 PM, LnrB wrote:

WaltS wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/



I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
(';')




I don't find it GeekWare at all, and probably don't speak Penguin.
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


Do you use buttons, or just text? I set to display both, and I click the
button not the text.

The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything else
passable is still beyond me...



I show just text, Ive always felt the buttons waste valuable vertical
space.  I never noticed the Download Progress Progress even had buttons.
  It's only there for a brief second or two.

GW


What's valuable space in a dialog that you're going to close once the 
action is complete?


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread Rufus

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Rufus:


Not the problem...I'm talking about the stupid too-small
stop/cancel/close buttons in the Download Progress dialog.


These ones? http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/do131130.png


Those are not customizable, and they are too small


They are. I remember a thread in the past with strong complaints. Maybe,
there is even a bug about this.

Luckily i am not affected by this, because i am using wget. :)

Hartmut



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Re: OT Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-30 Thread regz91

LnrB wrote:

WaltS wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
 Stéphane Grégoire wrote, On 11/30/2013 06:10 AM:
 Hi,

 Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 27/11/2013 08:33:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/debian-simple/

 I've mostly never understood why folks spend so much time on
 personas/themes etc... As long as everything works I'm happy. Also
every
 time someone mentions a theme, I'm usually confronted with This theme
 not available for Seamonkey 2.whatever ...

 This simple grey installed fine, everything works satisfactorily, but
 I'm wondering why there's a giant swirly in the upper right corner?






It is the Debian logo, and part of the theme design.

http://www.debian.org/



I had that once, a long time ago, before I got it through my thick head
that Linux was GeekWare and I would never speak Penguin.
(';')
You should have tried out more newbie friendly distros rather than using 
build everything yourself and use command line for everything distros.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Ant

On 11/28/2013 8:49 PM PT, Rufus typed:
...
 slow your mouse/trackpad down.  I view text only for the buttons and

have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works?  No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.


I wonder if there is a way to slow the pointer down only for SeaMonkey 
software.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of 
a rectangle?


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Ant wrote:

On 11/28/2013 8:49 PM PT, Rufus typed:
...
  slow your mouse/trackpad down.  I view text only for the buttons and

have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works?  No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.


I wonder if there is a way to slow the pointer down only for SeaMonkey
software.


...hmmnn...I'm probably hallucinating, but I do seem to recall some sort 
of utility that can provide app-specific mouse behavior.  I may be 
thinking of my Griffin iMate, though.


But that's not really the problem - the problem is that the buttons are 
simply too damn small - very near the size of the pointer itself, and 
the pointer can obscure the buttons.  For someone with limited vision 
(that might want to use a larger cursor) or problems with motor control 
this can be a genuine accessibility issue.


On top of that it graphically doesn't match anything in any other dialog 
in the Theme, and just plain looks like another problem.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the
olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of
a rectangle?

GW


I don't click the p, I click a nice, large, iconic Reply button.  If 
the button is only the size of the cursor (no matter what it's shape) 
it's *not* as easy.


And I'm not thinking specifically about myself - I'm thinking from the 
standpoint of general accessibility; for impaired users.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread PhillipJones

rob wrote:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:33:07 -0500, Ed Mullen e...@edmullen.net wrote:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?




Is it time for your medication or mine?


Orbit 3+1.


That's what I was using until I switched the SeaMonkey 2.2.2 series

The the author would fix it so it works. It works great on FireFox.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the
olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of
a rectangle?

GW


I don't click the p, I click a nice, large, iconic Reply button. If
the button is only the size of the cursor (no matter what it's shape)
it's *not* as easy.



well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the pointer 
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any 
letter in the word without missing.


Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.

GW
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Geoff Welsh wrote:


well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem
clicking any letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


OK, have a look at this.

With the toolbar showing, right-click in an empty area of the toolbar 
and choose Customize. See if the option Use small icons is checked. 
If so, try unchecking it and see if the larger icons suit you.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the
olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of
a rectangle?

GW


I don't click the p, I click a nice, large, iconic Reply button. If
the button is only the size of the cursor (no matter what it's shape)
it's *not* as easy.



well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.

GW


Do you use buttons, or just text?  I set to display both, and I click 
the button not the text.


The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress 
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything else 
passable is still beyond me...


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem
clicking any letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


OK, have a look at this.

With the toolbar showing, right-click in an empty area of the toolbar
and choose Customize. See if the option Use small icons is checked.
If so, try unchecking it and see if the larger icons suit you.



Not the problem...I'm talking about the stupid too-small 
stop/cancel/close buttons in the Download Progress dialog.  Those are 
not customizable, and they are too small - and they don't even match up 
with any other presentation in the Theme, like they did before they were 
reduced in size.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Hartmut Figge
Rufus:

Not the problem...I'm talking about the stupid too-small 
stop/cancel/close buttons in the Download Progress dialog.

These ones? http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/do131130.png

Those are not customizable, and they are too small

They are. I remember a thread in the past with strong complaints. Maybe,
there is even a bug about this.

Luckily i am not affected by this, because i am using wget. :)

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread NoOp
On 11/27/2013 05:58 AM, Pololo wrote:
 On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 
 GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits
 

I like that theme. Unfortunately I ran into this issue:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=5t=2743823
quote
I've noticed since SM 2.20 that a small white box was appearing in the
top-left of my screen and staying there, on top of everything else. I
didn't think it was anything to do with SeaMonkey until one day I tried
to track it down and after closing all programs, I checked the Task
Manager and noticed that SM was still running. When I killed it, the
white box disappeared.

I've tracked it down to the new mail notification box. I no longer get
the little box in the bottom-right of the screen nor do I get a tray
notification icon.
/quote

At first I thought it was libnotify/libindicatior/etc or some other
system issue, but after removing the theme and restarting with the
default SeaMonkey theme, everything is back to normal.
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Daniel

WaltS wrote:

On 11/27/2013 09:12 AM, Daniel wrote:

Pololo wrote:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits


In SeaMonkey, View-Apply Theme shows ...??




GNOMErunner/GTK Revived 0.2 is a complete theme.

[GNOMErunner/GTK Revived :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/gnomerunnergtk-revived/)


This is a continuation of GNOMErunner/GTK theme that works with
SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer versions.


Oh!! O.K., thanks Walt, I thought Pololo was just giving his OS/DE

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Peter Nieman

On 28/11/13 01:40, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Peter Nieman wrote, On 11/27/2013 09:21 PM:

I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for
some time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons
(small icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown
menu instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default
action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly
annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still
cares about Modern?

pn

Modern Toolbar customize Text gives a text-button with the
default-action, located next to the toggle-button grippy, which will
show the menu. (Modern is being maintained even better than the Default
Theme).


Yes, but I don't want Text, I want Icons.
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread EE

NFN Smith wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



I mostly use the Default one, although I have both Modern and Kilome
installed.

After reading through this thread, I did a bit of playing with the other
two, to see if I could remember why I switched back to Default.

In the process, I discovered that with the Modern theme, there's not the
issue with line spacing that appeared with the release of Seamonkey
2.22. On the other hand, I'm still seeing the near-truncated display of
the dialog window for the spell-checker.

Smith


Perhaps I should have mentioned that I patched all the themes I added to 
SeaMonkey to correct the half-missing button problem.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Geoff Welsh

Ant wrote:

On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?


Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third
party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is
the best IMO.


after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern, 
over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?


Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third
party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is
the best IMO.


after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern,
over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7

GW


Pretty much the same in my case...wasn't the SM Modern theme or 
something much like it once the default anyway?  That's what I'd 
always used.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how
many
many years ago?


Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third
party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is
the best IMO.


after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern,
over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7

GW


Pretty much the same in my case...wasn't the SM Modern theme or
something much like it once the default anyway? That's what I'd always
used.



or maybe classic vs modern.  IDR and I'm not gonna un-box my machine 
with Mozilla 1.0 (or whatever it was) to find outlol


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden 
days but that's not just a SM thing.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how
many
many years ago?


Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third
party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is
the best IMO.


after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern,
over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7

GW


Pretty much the same in my case...wasn't the SM Modern theme or
something much like it once the default anyway? That's what I'd always
used.



or maybe classic vs modern.  IDR and I'm not gonna un-box my machine
with Mozilla 1.0 (or whatever it was) to find outlol



...I think you're right...but sometimes it can be fun to pull out the 
old stuff!



I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.

Another odd thing I've noticed is with the Profile Manager - if it's 
invoked at start up the dialog graphics match the current look, but if I 
invoke Switch Profile from within the Browser the dialog graphic looks 
like the old-school NS presentation...and (go figure) there are problems 
lingering that are solved by not using the Profile Manager.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down.  I view text only for the buttons and 
have no problem


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread WaltS

Trane Francks wrote:

On 11/27/13 11:26 PM +0900, WaltS wrote:

On 11/27/2013 09:12 AM, Daniel wrote:

Pololo wrote:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits


In SeaMonkey, View-Apply Theme shows ...??




GNOMErunner/GTK Revived 0.2 is a complete theme.

[GNOMErunner/GTK Revived :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/gnomerunnergtk-revived/)


This is a continuation of GNOMErunner/GTK theme that works with
SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer versions.


That looks pretty nice. The Ambiance business would plug right into
Ubuntu 12 and look completely at home.




If I was to use a complete theme it would probably be Kilome.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-28 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down.  I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine 
works?  No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.


I use the Default theme, and I have the problem.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Trane Francks

On 11/27/13 4:33 PM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?

I use the Default theme on OS X because it more closely resembles native 
Mac applications.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Desiree

On 11/26/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?

I use a Persona.  I think Personas use the default theme's 
buttons...they used to do that...but I don't know what theme the buttons 
belong to today.  I haven't used a theme since Personas were first 
introduced for Fx and Sm.  I have several Personas for each browser and 
I change them frequently.


I think any problems are due to the buttons used not any Persona.  Plus, 
I know persona was dropped but calling Personas themes now and 
calling what used to be themes complete themes now is confusing and 
convoluted.


So, I think what you want to know is what, if any, complete theme is 
being used by SeaMonkey users not what persona or theme (as they are now 
called) is being used.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Peter Nieman

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for some 
time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons (small 
icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown menu 
instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default 
action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly 
annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still 
cares about Modern?


pn
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Philip Taylor


Ed Mullen wrote:

 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

None, as far as I am aware.  I eschew themes, shells, chromes,
and anything else that seeks to tart up a tool that should
be solely functional.  If I /am/ using a theme, then it is
whatever theme is intrinsic to Seamonkey.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Charani
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:33:07 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:

 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?

Default with no problems.

Charani
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread David H. Durgee

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.



I have always used LittleMonkey with SeaMonkey here on Linux Mint x64.

Dave

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Pololo

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread WaltS

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?



Seamonkey Default Theme 2.22

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Daniel

Philip Taylor wrote:



Ed Mullen wrote:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?


None, as far as I am aware.  I eschew themes, shells, chromes,
and anything else that seeks to tart up a tool that should
be solely functional.  If I /am/ using a theme, then it is
whatever theme is intrinsic to Seamonkey.

Philip Taylor


View-Apply Theme shows ...??

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Daniel

Pololo wrote:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits


In SeaMonkey, View-Apply Theme shows ...??

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread WaltS

On 11/27/2013 09:12 AM, Daniel wrote:

Pololo wrote:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits


In SeaMonkey, View-Apply Theme shows ...??




GNOMErunner/GTK Revived 0.2 is a complete theme.

[GNOMErunner/GTK Revived :: Add-ons for 
SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/gnomerunnergtk-revived/)


This is a continuation of GNOMErunner/GTK theme that works with 
SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer versions.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Petr Voralek
   Hello!

  On 11/27/2013 08:33 AM, *Ed Mullen* wrote, and I quote (in part):

 I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many 
 many years ago?

  I'm on the same boat as you.  Previously, I have also used the Gray
Modern, but this theme is probably abandoned by author now...
http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread chicagofan

Desiree wrote:

On 11/26/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?

I use a Persona.  I think Personas use the default theme's 
buttons...they used to do that...but I don't know what theme the 
buttons belong to today.  I haven't used a theme since Personas were 
first introduced for Fx and Sm.  I have several Personas for each 
browser and I change them frequently.


I think any problems are due to the buttons used not any Persona. 
Plus, I know persona was dropped but calling Personas themes now 
and calling what used to be themes complete themes now is confusing 
and convoluted.


So, I think what you want to know is what, if any, complete theme is 
being used by SeaMonkey users not what persona or theme (as they are 
now called) is being used.


LOL... I am really confused now, so all I can say is I'm using what is 
known to me as a Persona, and it's one of the reasons I am lagging on 
SM updates.  I don't want to lose it.   :)   Haven't had a problem with 
the spell window if that matters.

bj


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread regz91

Pololo wrote:


GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits
I too use the same theme .The theme also installs an addon which allows 
you to customise various stuff like removing grippies etc.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread EE

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I have 8 themes added to SeaMonkey.

Blue Essence  - needed extensive patching  bumping of max version - had 
to add Mozapps, Chatzilla, Messenger, plus new scrollbars


Classic Firefox for SeaMonkey - used Halloween (Firefox) colours to make 
it look nicer


EarlyBlue - just made the white areas yellow  repainted browser toolbar 
buttons


Firefox 3 for SeaMonkey - used Glowy Wine (Thunderbird) colour scheme  
had to add Messenger


Kilome - used Bloody Red (Firefox) colours - had to bump up max version

LCARStrek - had to make some areas more readable

SeaMonkey Gray Modern - used Pitchdark (Firefox) colours - had to patch 
installer to give it its own internal name


Walnut 2 for SeaMonkey - had to fix a few small things

All of these themes have been patched in some ways, some more than 
others.  All of the older ones had to be patched to make the plugins 
work properly.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread PhillipJones

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?
 I would love to use Orbit 3 +1 But evidently the develop is un 
interested in updating it.

 I have it working in FireFox looks great.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Rufus

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I've used the SM Modern Theme continually since the introduction of the 
latest Default.


I've looked for alternatives but haven't found a single one that I like 
better than SM Modern.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread NFN Smith

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



I mostly use the Default one, although I have both Modern and Kilome 
installed.


After reading through this thread, I did a bit of playing with the other 
two, to see if I could remember why I switched back to Default.


In the process, I discovered that with the Modern theme, there's not the 
issue with line spacing that appeared with the release of Seamonkey 
2.22. On the other hand, I'm still seeing the near-truncated display of 
the dialog window for the spell-checker.


Smith
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Peter Nieman wrote, On 11/27/2013 09:21 PM:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for 
some time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons 
(small icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown 
menu instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default 
action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly 
annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still 
cares about Modern?


pn
Modern Toolbar customize Text gives a text-button with the 
default-action, located next to the toggle-button grippy, which will 
show the menu. (Modern is being maintained even better than the Default 
Theme).

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Geoff Welsh

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



Modern, not that I can recall the difference or why, but I'm not about 
to mess with it after all these yrs.


GW
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-27 Thread Ant

On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?


Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third 
party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is 
the best IMO.

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What theme do you use?

2013-11-26 Thread Ed Mullen

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many 
many years ago?


I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being 
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so 
it seems to me in some posts.


So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of 
SM users are on what theme.


http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?
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