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Hello Stefan ! Not that this is extremly important, but... This list has an amazing side-effect, which is : getting to know new words things that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. M?l?e : which Google translates in german to something like fray in naval warfare? !? M?l?e? Probably the French accents got lost, somewhere in America... You meant Mêlée? O:-) Sure I meant Mêlée and I did originally write it that way, problem seems to be that Eudora (which I'm still using for some reasons ;-)) seems to modify text in certain ways that I haven't figured out yet ! Let's see how the word Séparée ends up in quotes, if this mail gets any more attention, which it shouldn't , cause there is alreadyenough mail out there and here 8-) Now back to the important things in this forum with surrounding regards Carsten -- Carsten Bohn BigNoteMusic Bogenstr.52, 20144 Hamburg/Germany fon : 0049 - 40 - 420 97 98 fax : 0049 - 40 - 420 96 47 email : c...@bignote.de website: http://www.bignote.de fansite: http://www.bohn-musik.de -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121012/b317f77a/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.ptwrote: Sampo Syreeni wrote: How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/108150639213488?fref=ts C-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121011/41002919/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? On 11 October 2012 17:55, Charlie Richmond charlie@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Sampo Syreeni wrote: How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/108150639213488?fref=ts C-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121011/41002919/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- 07580951119 augustine.leudar.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121011/dc1249e7/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Email is still a valid and reliable technology. For archives (with search): https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.sursound Marc Augustine Leudar augustineleu...@gmail.com a écrit : What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? On 11 October 2012 17:55, Charlie Richmond charlie@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Sampo Syreeni wrote: How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/108150639213488?fref=ts C-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121011/41002919/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Martin Leese wrote: Carsten Bohn wrote: It has sort of got lost in the melee. ... This list has an amazing side-effect, which is : getting to know new words things that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. M?l?e : which Google translates in german to something like fray in naval warfare? !? My English dictionary gives, mixed fight, or crowd. I was trying to convey the idea of a disorganised fight. Given the accents (which I omitted because I can never remember how to do them on my keyboard) the word was probably borrowed from French. Regards, Martin M?l?e? Probably the French accents got lost, somewhere in America... You meant Mêlée? O:-) Best, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Augustine Leudar wrote: What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? No, but forums are s 90s. FB is sooo noughties. Best, Stefan On 11 October 2012 17:55, Charlie Richmond charlie@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Sampo Syreeni wrote: How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/108150639213488?fref=ts C-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121011/41002919/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.ptwrote: Augustine Leudar wrote: What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? No, but forums are s 90s. FB is sooo noughties. Google+ ? *ducking* Well that is the latest major format, taint it? C-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121011/aa1398a8/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Charlie Richmond charlie@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.ptwrote: Sampo Syreeni wrote: How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/108150639213488?fref=ts There a FB page for Abramowitz Stegun too, but these are simply auto-generated from the corresponding Wikipedia article. However, I do see there is a Surround Music group on FB that looks pretty active. https://www.facebook.com/groups/472608276094365/ Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) Menlo Park, CA US ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On 10/11/2012 06:59 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? not at all. if a facebook group works for some people, by all means go ahead. it's not going to diminish the usefulness of this list. the interesting question is (as usual) a technical one: how do i mirror and archive a facebook group conversation? note the solipsistic I as opposed to some ephemeral facebook inc. or whatever... and how do i a facebook discussion _thread_ in my client application of choice without distracting blink? as soon as someone answers these simple questions, i'm all gung-ho for facebook, because i'm a sucker for targetted advertising: yesterday, i ordered on ebay a rubber transmission belt for a 1970s EIKI 16mm film projector, and today, wherever i go, all adverts are about transmission belts. that's sublime :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On 2012-10-11, Charlie Richmond wrote: How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/108150639213488?fref=ts On FB, pages and groups are several. I just liked the page/interest you referred to. What we just put up is a group where you can also talk about things. Naturally it would make sense to link those two constructs together. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On 2012-10-11, Augustine Leudar wrote: What about a forum? An FB group is definitely a forum already. I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics? If search functionality is wanted, I'd advocate for more and better functionality for this list. Whose search functionality -- while not google-worthy -- is not half bad even now. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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However, I do see there is a Surround Music group on FB that looks pretty active. https://www.facebook.com/groups/472608276094365/ a quote from that page: I’m playing a VDT (Verband Deutche Tonmeister) event at Galaxy 10/6 using an 8.0 setup (quad on the ground and quad in the air). I don’t think that this has ever been done before … Here goes! oh dear, this is indeed a parallel world! Etienne This group might then benefit from an immediate mindmeld with ours. All admins as admins in the new group, all members being automatically added to the other, the remainig group's name and description being edited to bear, plus of course the other group deleted. Let's see if it can happen. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- http://etiennedeleflie.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly available archive. Etienne On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM, etienne deleflie edelef...@gmail.com wrote: However, I do see there is a Surround Music group on FB that looks pretty active. https://www.facebook.com/groups/472608276094365/ a quote from that page: I’m playing a VDT (Verband Deutche Tonmeister) event at Galaxy 10/6 using an 8.0 setup (quad on the ground and quad in the air). I don’t think that this has ever been done before … Here goes! oh dear, this is indeed a parallel world! Etienne This group might then benefit from an immediate mindmeld with ours. All admins as admins in the new group, all members being automatically added to the other, the remainig group's name and description being edited to bear, plus of course the other group deleted. Let's see if it can happen. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- http://etiennedeleflie.net -- http://etiennedeleflie.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Also http://www.mail-archive.com/sursound@music.vt.edu/ M. I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly available archive. Etienne You are at http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.sursound/2709 ... and I always thought this list was 'private' ... ;-( (I think ... I may ... have seen other mirrors ... but not sure ...) Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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yes indeed, my mistake. Etienne On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Michael Chapman s...@mchapman.com wrote: Also http://www.mail-archive.com/sursound@music.vt.edu/ M. I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly available archive. Etienne You are at http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.sursound/2709 ... and I always thought this list was 'private' ... ;-( (I think ... I may ... have seen other mirrors ... but not sure ...) Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- http://etiennedeleflie.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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It has sort of got lost in the melee. Try: http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal Regards, Martin This list has an amazing side-effect, which is : getting to know new words things that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. Mêlée : which Google translates in german to something like fray in naval warfare³ !? So, even though I thought of cancelling my subscription to this list, I decided to stay, cause the learning effect is just too valuable to stay away from ;-) with best regards from Hamburg/Germany Carsten -- Carsten Bohn BigNoteMusic Bogenstr.52, 20144 Hamburg/Germany fon : 0049 - 40 - 420 97 98 fax : 0049 - 40 - 420 96 47 email : c...@bignote.de website: http://www.bignote.de fansite: http://www.bohn-musik.de ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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It definitely behoves you to remain among us Carsten (=; On 10 October 2012 11:29, Carsten Bohn c...@bignote.de wrote: It has sort of got lost in the melee. Try: http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 https://www.facebook.com/**TransDimensionalPortalhttps://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal Regards, Martin This list has an amazing side-effect, which is : getting to know new words things that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. Mêlée : which Google translates in german to something like fray in naval warfare³ !? So, even though I thought of cancelling my subscription to this list, I decided to stay, cause the learning effect is just too valuable to stay away from ;-) with best regards from Hamburg/Germany Carsten -- Carsten Bohn BigNoteMusic Bogenstr.52, 20144 Hamburg/Germany fon : 0049 - 40 - 420 97 98 fax : 0049 - 40 - 420 96 47 email : c...@bignote.de website: http://www.bignote.de fansite: http://www.bohn-musik.de __**_ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sursoundhttps://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- 07580951119 augustine.leudar.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121010/f714de6b/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Carsten Bohn wrote: It has sort of got lost in the melee. ... This list has an amazing side-effect, which is : getting to know new words things that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. M?l?e : which Google translates in german to something like fray in naval warfare? !? My English dictionary gives, mixed fight, or crowd. I was trying to convey the idea of a disorganised fight. Given the accents (which I omitted because I can never remember how to do them on my keyboard) the word was probably borrowed from French. Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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an academic duel to the death over facebook - swashbuckling stuff ! On 10 October 2012 18:20, Martin Leese martin.le...@stanfordalumni.orgwrote: Carsten Bohn wrote: It has sort of got lost in the melee. ... This list has an amazing side-effect, which is : getting to know new words things that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. M?l?e : which Google translates in german to something like fray in naval warfare? !? My English dictionary gives, mixed fight, or crowd. I was trying to convey the idea of a disorganised fight. Given the accents (which I omitted because I can never remember how to do them on my keyboard) the word was probably borrowed from French. Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- 07580951119 augustine.leudar.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121010/6e1aef65/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Augustine Leudar wrote: so ... what's all this about a portal ? It has sort of got lost in the melee. Try: http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Marc Lavallée wrote : This list is not the place to explain why, but I must also mention that I'm strictly non-Facebook. Amen ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Eric Benjamin wrote : I don't understand what would be the benefit of a facebook group I certainly sympathize with all of those who have posted anti-facebook comments. That is why I maintain only a minimal facebook presence. But it does seem to me that there are some benefits. Like accompanying commentary with supplementary pictures or audio recordings. Thought TBL sorted that in 198? err, a webpage? Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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John Leonard wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Ditto. In my case, the reason was elegantly explained by Douglas Adams: I've [Douglas Adams has] come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technology: 1. Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things. [From The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, 2002] Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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Oh well, looks like I am the odd one out, again...I am on FB, but under what for convenience I will call my stage name, which my friends know and understand but my music students or the idly curious will never find; On 08/10/2012 21:54, Fons Adriaensen wrote: In my case, the *reason* is that IMHO FB is a big swindle, and not stimulating anything positive, au contraire. I was not aware this was a requirement of a website. I doubt very much my own website stimulates anything much at all - hmm, donations via paypal remain conspicuous by their absence...so this must be the reason, then. Clearly the internet should be a commerce-free zone, like what it used to be, I guess. Earning money is so last century. Who pays for FB ? The advertisers. Who pays the advertisers ? The consumers who buy the product or services advertised. Hmm, not me - I don't buy anything. The adverts I see are all irrelevant, and sometimes amusingly random. And, really, not very intrusive. It's hard to believe they would find any paying customers at all. I think it amounts to rather less than the ultimate conspiracy theory. So in the end we, the consumers, are paying ourselves for being profiled, analysed and swindled by targeted commercial 'information'. The only thing I am paying for is my ISP; I use FB as a free resource. I rather suspect, au contraire, I am being swindled by my supplier of electricity and gas. With one or two exceptions, all my FB Friends are actually friends in real life. I don't spend hours on it (except when I forget to log off). I have had the odd useful chat with someone to arrange to meet up or whatever. I sometimes use it a bit like twitter (which I have yet to sign up to) without the 140 char limit, when it amuses me to do so. The most the profilers will get from me is random pictures of cute animals, flowers, or views of Stourhead (ho, dangerously valuable personal info there!), and the odd shared link of topical interest. Strangely, I see no adverts at all for either flowers or cute animals. But, I did close my LinkedIn account, as I really could not see the point of it, for me. YMMV etc. Richard Dobson ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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It is rather alarming how insubstantial it all is-- google ,facebook, apple selling gadgets that are really quite useless and google and facebook making money on ads and no other way(google sells how far up the search list you are but that is ad stuff too in effect) The whole USA and a good deal of the world economy seems to be turning into castles in the air. Robert On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Richard Dobson wrote: Oh well, looks like I am the odd one out, again...I am on FB, but under what for convenience I will call my stage name, which my friends know and understand but my music students or the idly curious will never find; On 08/10/2012 21:54, Fons Adriaensen wrote: In my case, the *reason* is that IMHO FB is a big swindle, and not stimulating anything positive, au contraire. I was not aware this was a requirement of a website. I doubt very much my own website stimulates anything much at all - hmm, donations via paypal remain conspicuous by their absence...so this must be the reason, then. Clearly the internet should be a commerce-free zone, like what it used to be, I guess. Earning money is so last century. Who pays for FB ? The advertisers. Who pays the advertisers ? The consumers who buy the product or services advertised. Hmm, not me - I don't buy anything. The adverts I see are all irrelevant, and sometimes amusingly random. And, really, not very intrusive. It's hard to believe they would find any paying customers at all. I think it amounts to rather less than the ultimate conspiracy theory. So in the end we, the consumers, are paying ourselves for being profiled, analysed and swindled by targeted commercial 'information'. The only thing I am paying for is my ISP; I use FB as a free resource. I rather suspect, au contraire, I am being swindled by my supplier of electricity and gas. With one or two exceptions, all my FB Friends are actually friends in real life. I don't spend hours on it (except when I forget to log off). I have had the odd useful chat with someone to arrange to meet up or whatever. I sometimes use it a bit like twitter (which I have yet to sign up to) without the 140 char limit, when it amuses me to do so. The most the profilers will get from me is random pictures of cute animals, flowers, or views of Stourhead (ho, dangerously valuable personal info there!), and the odd shared link of topical interest. Strangely, I see no adverts at all for either flowers or cute animals. But, I did close my LinkedIn account, as I really could not see the point of it, for me. YMMV etc. Richard Dobson ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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This is funny but it is of course wrong, I like facebook a lot, but I dislike text messages, and so on. Which general types of things one likes may develop early, but the details are not set in stone. This kind of thing is an excuse for all kinds of bad stuff that is supposed to be progress but is really just bad--but not all of it is bad! Robert On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Martin Leese wrote: John Leonard wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Ditto. In my case, the reason was elegantly explained by Douglas Adams: I've [Douglas Adams has] come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technology: 1. Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things. [From The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, 2002] Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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so ... what's all this about a portal ? On 9 October 2012 01:24, Robert Greene gre...@math.ucla.edu wrote: This is funny but it is of course wrong, I like facebook a lot, but I dislike text messages, and so on. Which general types of things one likes may develop early, but the details are not set in stone. This kind of thing is an excuse for all kinds of bad stuff that is supposed to be progress but is really just bad--but not all of it is bad! Robert On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Martin Leese wrote: John Leonard wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Ditto. In my case, the reason was elegantly explained by Douglas Adams: I've [Douglas Adams has] come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technology: 1. Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things. [From The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, 2002] Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/**martin_leese/http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ __**_ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sursoundhttps://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound __**_ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sursoundhttps://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- 07580951119 augustine.leudar.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121009/bfa5e6f6/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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I requested membership. Looking forward to learning as much as I can about Ambisonics. I've been a lurker here a couple years. -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Sampo Syreeni Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:46 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal On 2012-10-06, Charlie Richmond wrote: I'd put up a group already if said persons were part of my FB-circuit. I'm in. So you are. The group resides at https://www.facebook.com/groups/355566654536126/ and Charlie is already an admin. Let's go from there, with every long time talker on this list promoted to an admin and very few left out. Perhaps make that group a nice, pretty, talking point over ambisonic, while retaining this list for hardcore technical discussion? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On 2012-10-07, Tom Wilkinson wrote: I requested membership. Looking forward to learning as much as I can about Ambisonics. I've been a lurker here a couple years. Do keep your membership here even if the Facebook group succeeds: groups are better for lighter discussion and publicity. Mailing lists have always been and will remain the right forum for sorting real, scientific-technological, heavier thoughts out. There is no way Facebook could ever support the kinds of discussions that are to be found in the list archives. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, John Leonard j...@johnleonard.co.uk wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Sampo changed the name of the group to Surround sound to get away from the ambisonics label and we now have almost 100 members. Charlie -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121007/df6b339a/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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That's good to hear, but it's one of my rules that I won't subscribe to Facebook. I think it's probably one of the main scourges of the internet, run by a deeply unpleasant person and existing solely for the purpose of selling targeted advertising - or spam. I get enough of that without adding to it. Regards, John On 7 Oct 2012, at 21:55, Charlie Richmond charlie@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, John Leonard j...@johnleonard.co.uk wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Sampo changed the name of the group to Surround sound to get away from the ambisonics label and we now have almost 100 members. Charlie -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121007/df6b339a/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On 7 Oct 2012, at 16:53, John Leonard j...@johnleonard.co.uk wrote: I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Ditto. I use FB, but in an extremely limited way, and I refuse to do apps, games, likes and any of that crap. Ronald ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 10:03:52PM +0100, John Leonard wrote: That's good to hear, but it's one of my rules that I won't subscribe to Facebook. Same here. -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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This list is not the place to explain why, but I must also mention that I'm strictly non-Facebook. I hope that the results of the TDP project will be available not only on FB... This project is like my domestic ambisonics project; I postponed it because of a lack of time and energy, but I already have most of the hardware; 12 KEF satellites, D-class amps, a computer, a tutorial by Jörn Nettingsmeier... I planned to build 4 small near-field directional subs (ripols) because I suspect that 3 KEF Kube-1 surround subs are not optimal for ambisonics (I may be wrong, as often). Marc John Leonard j...@johnleonard.co.uk a écrit : Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Regards, John On 7 Oct 2012, at 06:46, Sampo Syreeni de...@iki.fi wrote: On 2012-10-06, Charlie Richmond wrote: I'd put up a group already if said persons were part of my FB-circuit. I'm in. So you are. The group resides at https://www.facebook.com/groups/355566654536126/ and Charlie is already an admin. Let's go from there, with every long time talker on this list promoted to an admin and very few left out. Perhaps make that group a nice, pretty, talking point over ambisonic, while retaining this list for hardcore technical discussion? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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At 15:53 07/10/2012, John Leonard wrote: I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. I am with you, John, and the others that have agreed. David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
[Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
Hi All, At present, no more details on this are available, but it looks like one to watch: http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
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On 2012-10-06, Aaron Heller wrote: There's more info about this at https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? With a number of the current best-knowing, FB-willing people as admins? No transdimensional nonsense there, but just the same, usual, well-founded stuff we mostly talked about for years on this list? As the FB-counterpart and adjunct to this list? I'd put up a group already if said persons were part of my FB-circuit. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
