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Welcome to the biofuels-biz group
Hello, I've added you to my biofuels-biz group at Yahoo! Groups, a free, easy-to-use service. Yahoo! Groups makes it easy to send and receive group messages, coordinate events, share photos and files, and more. (NOTE: biofuels-biz is an announcement/newsletter group, so only the group moderator may post messages.) My introductory message to you: bfb join Description of the group: This group is now closed. Please see the Biofuel mailing list.Address and subscription:http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel The Biofuel mailing list is for anyone who is making their own fuel or has an interest in biofuels - all aspects of biofuels use are covered. There are resources, FAQs, how-to's, full recipes and an online Biofuels Library at the Journey to Forever website, the premier source of small-scale biofuels information: Biofuels http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biodiesel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html Biodiesel - "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Straight vegetable oil (SVO) http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html Biofuels Library http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html Ethanol http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol.html List home: http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel All messages are archived at the independent Info-Archive at NNYTech - fast, one-time searching and NO ADS: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Best wishesJourney to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/ Important information about the biofuels-biz group * To leave the group, you can unsubscribe by replying to this message, or by sending an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * To learn more about the biofuels-biz group, please visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz * To view and modify all of your groups, visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Regards, Moderator, biofuels-biz Report abuse: Because Yahoo! Groups values your privacy, it is a violation of our service rules for moderators to add subscribers to a group against their wishes. If you feel this has happened, please notify us: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/abuse/index.html You may also change your email preferences to prevent group owners from adding you to their groups. To do so, please go here: http://groups.yahoo.com/s?tag=UBoeRDz1z7R20skVeHW79BfX_Sr43QnDuG1h9450lXsvu9v-lkuhKTOiiC0QTNZoPwJvsjEtxr4mlA Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[biofuel] Biofuels-biz list closing
Hello all The Biofuels-biz list is closing today. The reasons for this have been discussed in recent list messages, mainly these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4095/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4096/ The first one says this, among other things: "... some excellent biofuels business operations have been set up by Biofuel list members who've gained the information and advice they've needed from discussion at the Biofuel list, not the Biofuels-biz list." It also points to an interesting recent discussion at the Biofuel list on the ethics of commercial production, worth a read: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30316/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30354/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30366/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30401/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30405/ So we'd like to invite all Biofuels-biz list members to join the Biofuel list, if they haven't already done so (about half are members of both lists). Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Post message: biofuel@yahoogroups.com List URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel We haven't yet decided how to handle the Biofuels-biz message archives at Martin's Information Archive at NNYTech, for the time being it will remain unchanged. We'd like to thank all concerned for contributing to the list during its two-and-a-half years of existence. Our thanks and best wishes to all. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Biofuels-biz list closing
Hello all The Biofuels-biz list is closing today. The reasons for this have been discussed in recent list messages, mainly these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4095/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4096/ The first one says this, among other things: "... some excellent biofuels business operations have been set up by Biofuel list members who've gained the information and advice they've needed from discussion at the Biofuel list, not the Biofuels-biz list." It also points to an interesting recent discussion at the Biofuel list on the ethics of commercial production, worth a read: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30316/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30354/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30366/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30401/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30405/ So we'd like to invite all Biofuels-biz list members to join the Biofuel list, if they haven't already done so (about half are members of both lists). Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Post message: biofuel@yahoogroups.com List URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel We haven't yet decided how to handle the Biofuels-biz message archives at Martin's Information Archive at NNYTech, for the time being it will remain unchanged. We'd like to thank all concerned for contributing to the list during its two-and-a-half years of existence. Our thanks and best wishes to all. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Biofuels-biz list closing
Hello all The Biofuels-biz list is closing today. The reasons for this have been discussed in recent list messages, mainly these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4095/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4096/ The first one says this, among other things: "... some excellent biofuels business operations have been set up by Biofuel list members who've gained the information and advice they've needed from discussion at the Biofuel list, not the Biofuels-biz list." It also points to an interesting recent discussion at the Biofuel list on the ethics of commercial production, worth a read: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30316/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30354/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30366/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30401/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30405/ So we'd like to invite all Biofuels-biz list members to join the Biofuel list, if they haven't already done so (about half are members of both lists). Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Post message: biofuel@yahoogroups.com List URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel We haven't yet decided how to handle the Biofuels-biz message archives at Martin's Information Archive at NNYTech, for the time being it will remain unchanged. We'd like to thank all concerned for contributing to the list during its two-and-a-half years of existence. Our thanks and best wishes to all. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Biofuels-biz list closing
Hello all The Biofuels-biz list is closing today. The reasons for this have been discussed in recent list messages, mainly these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4095/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/4096/ The first one says this, among other things: "... some excellent biofuels business operations have been set up by Biofuel list members who've gained the information and advice they've needed from discussion at the Biofuel list, not the Biofuels-biz list." It also points to an interesting recent discussion at the Biofuel list on the ethics of commercial production, worth a read: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30316/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30354/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30366/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30401/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30405/ So we'd like to invite all Biofuels-biz list members to join the Biofuel list, if they haven't already done so (about half are members of both lists). Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Post message: biofuel@yahoogroups.com List URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel We haven't yet decided how to handle the Biofuels-biz message archives at Martin's Information Archive at NNYTech, for the time being it will remain unchanged. We'd like to thank all concerned for contributing to the list during its two-and-a-half years of existence. Our thanks and best wishes to all. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] new US small producer/distributor/co-op discussion list
hi folks, Keith Addison is deleting his Yahoogroups "Biofuels-biz" discussion list shortly, with the hope that the relevant discussion continues on Biofuel. I am starting a new discussion list for small producers/small distributors in the US. I was hoping to start this and to actually give the list serious attention after the upcoming California Biodiesel Consumers' Conference (www.biodieselconsumers.org, which focuses entirely on small and locally-controlled biodiesel business) and the National Biodiesel Board convention (which focuses on the exact opposite!), but because Biofuels-biz is ending today, I wanted to form the new list and announce it now so as to catch any interested Biofuels-biz members. We have a decent amount of experience with local, B100-focused , community-based distribution of biodiesel here in Northern California at this point, and I think there are probably others in the co-op and small distributor business who could benefit from a focused discussion on the topic of nontraditional biodiesel business and distribution. My other incentive in starting 'yet another list' after the closing of Biofuels-biz, is to provide more of a focus for the scattered US discussion of an upcoming legal challenge to the current NBB stranglehold over EPA registration of producers, which shuts smaller operators out of biodiesel production. I very much want the new list to focus on small producers of under 500,000 gallons per year, as well as nonprofit and local-focused ventures. To join the list, please go to www.groups.yahoo.com/group/local-b100-biz See you there (and here) mark Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] EPA "guidelines" - was Re: [biofuel] Request
ld have been held to that, and to their previous undertakings, not asked. Sheesh. They could have been forced, now they have to be begged or entreated or something. What will they say next, that it has to meet the ASTM standards for rocket fuel? So it's all up in the air now, once again, going right back to the beginning where we started more than a year ago, examining whether the NBB has the right to claim as its own Health Effects Data research paid for out of soy check-off dollars, which is public money, and so on. >- > >I'm confident in my abilities to launch a small producing business. I'm not >confident in "big government". Well, that's just an American bugaboo, not without some substance but much too broad-brush to be meaningful or useful. This gets a bit closer to it: "There are some good people at USDA but for the most part, its a captured agency. An agency captured by the monied interests it is supposed to be regulating. An agency that serves those interests and not the public." - From a recent message to SANET on the BSE crisis. Just change the names and you've got the picture, IMO. Re this: >I'm interested in making the best product possible. It seems to me that "big >government" is getting the way of small business. Big business's cosy ties with bureaucracies, more like. Anyway, making the best product possible and meeting the EPA guidelines are not the same thing, though the two are often confused. Submitting one test batch per year for ASTM D6751 testing or whatever it is that's required for registration and quality control measures are different issues. Some months back there was a fuss in California after World Energy distributed a consignment of sub-spec biodiesel. Details here: http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/25291/ Bad quality at World Energy? what's that again about "Now what's that again about homebrewers, quality, and out-of-spec fuel, and the quality control standards that only industry can provide??" http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/2888/ Re: even more shady quality control in commercial biodiesel World Energy withdrew the consignment, and their VP Sales Graham Noyes posted this explanation: "First, this biodiesel is crappy not because it is Yellow Grease (aka recycled) biodiesel but because it is out of spec biodiesel. Prior to triggering this railcar, we received lab analysis showing that it met ASTM spec. The good work of Dr. Dan alerted us that there might be an issue with the fuel. We sent samples to an independent lab and found it did not meet spec. We then pulled all product and stopped supplying. If you have product that does not meet spec, we will replace it with ASTM spec fuel. We guarantee that our fuel meets ASTM spec and back that up as necessary." I asked him how it was possible that the first lab had okayed it but he didn't reply. There's been quite a lot of this in industry, various industries, where labs just rubber-stamp stuff, at best, or falsify the tests, at worst. (Again, check out how much actual "inspecting" is done by the USDA's meat inspectors where it would clash with industry profits.) Anyway, you're kind of forced to the conclusion that there is no quality testing at the commercial (NBB) level, or at least not necessarily. Further to which, the second ref. above (from Mark) says this, among other things: "... That manufacturer apparently reacted their material just enough to drop the viscosity, and never actually retracted glycerine (so the guy had 10% more (monoglyceride soup) product to sell, quality be damned... The point of their story is that ASTM D-671 is not particularly enforcable at the moment, though it seems that in theory this producer could be shut down. It's an interesting story- we've been told before that small producers can get in all this legal trouble for not joining the NBB and selling onroad fuel, and yet here are five industry people telling me that there's no real enforcement mechanism for ASTM, and that there's nothing anyone's going to do about this producer at the moment." Mark also posted this a month or so back: >We've had serious problems with bad quality substandard non-spec >biodiesel coming out of NBB member Imperial Western Products' plant >this summer and fall, with drivers having big repair bills as a >result, but the NBB has no clue that this is happening and still >believes that small producers would have quality control problems. >I asked my acquaintance in the NBB if he had any idea about this >issue and of course no one had told them. As usual the NBB is >somewhat out of touch on B100 issues. > >Amusingly, the next thing schedul
[biofuels-biz] Re: Coconut and Palm Kernel Oil STD antagonists.
Hi Ken, Im not an expert on the subject but my guess is the glycerol molecule is eaten up by bacteria/enzymes in our stomach thereby breaking the triglyceride into free fatty acids. our body produces the monolaurin from the VCO by the reaction mentioned. it is the monolaurin that breaks the lipid coating of HIV. I hope this helps. for more info on VCO, i recommend the book "Healing Miracles of Coconut Oil" by Dr. Bruce Fife,N.D. regards, Enrico --- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Ken Gotberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Enrico > > Thanks for the info. I've been looking for other > useful things that can be made from WVO and came > across the articles mentioned. I've seen some > advertisements from people selling VCO claiming > anti-bacterial/viral activity due to lauric acid and > am curious about this. VCO is a triglyceride where > the lauric is attached to glycerol and is not in free > form. A figure in one of the articles cited shows a > bacterial cell before and after treatment with capric > acid/monocaprin and the claim is that the these > compounds disrupt the mitochondria inside the cell. > My guess is that the smaller free molecules have a > better chance of crossing the cell membrane than the > bulky triglyceride? Can you clarify this point i.e. > does the fatty acid have to be separated from glycerol > before it is effective? > > Thanks again and best regards, > > Ken > > --- blexdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lauric acid in unrefined coconut oil (virgin)is also > > a powerful agent > > against STDs. VCO contains 47-50% lauric acid and is > > under research > > right now for cure of AIDS. > > > > regards, > > Enrico > > > > --- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Ken Gotberg > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Capric acid (C10:0) and monocaprin (capric > > > monoglyceride) have been found to be sexually > > > transmitted diseases antagonists. > > > > > > Coconut oil 4.5-to-9.7 % capric > > > Palm kernel oil 3.0-to-7.0% capric > > > > > > Seminal papers: > > > > > > In Vitro Susceptibilities of Neisseria gonorrhoeae > > to > > > Fatty Acids and Monoglycerides > > > http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/43/11/2790 > > > > > > In Vitro Killing of Candida albicans by Fatty > > Acids > > > and Monoglycerides > > > http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/45/11/3209 > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > PS Sanrego is an Indonesian herbal Viagra that can > > be > > > used to further scientific research in this > > exciting > > > area. > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" > > Sweepstakes > > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] minor correction to NBB fee structure post
OOPS! It got pointed out to me that I put a dollar sign in the wrong place in the NBB fee structure post, though I think it was fairly obvious what the real numbers should have been. Everywhere I said something like: .01 cents per gallon produced (one hundredth of a cent) it actually should have said $.01 (ie one cent, not a fraction of a cent) Mark by the way this fee structure info comes from http://www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/Pages/biodiesel24.html Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Coconut and Palm Kernel Oil STD antagonists.
Hi Enrico Thanks for the info. Ive been looking for other useful things that can be made from WVO and came across the articles mentioned. Ive seen some advertisements from people selling VCO claiming anti-bacterial/viral activity due to lauric acid and am curious about this. VCO is a triglyceride where the lauric is attached to glycerol and is not in free form. A figure in one of the articles cited shows a bacterial cell before and after treatment with capric acid/monocaprin and the claim is that the these compounds disrupt the mitochondria inside the cell. My guess is that the smaller free molecules have a better chance of crossing the cell membrane than the bulky triglyceride? Can you clarify this point i.e. does the fatty acid have to be separated from glycerol before it is effective? Thanks again and best regards, Ken --- blexdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lauric acid in unrefined coconut oil (virgin)is also > a powerful agent > against STDs. VCO contains 47-50% lauric acid and is > under research > right now for cure of AIDS. > > regards, > Enrico > > --- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Ken Gotberg > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Capric acid (C10:0) and monocaprin (capric > > monoglyceride) have been found to be sexually > > transmitted diseases antagonists. > > > > Coconut oil 4.5-to-9.7 % capric > > Palm kernel oil 3.0-to-7.0% capric > > > > Seminal papers: > > > > In Vitro Susceptibilities of Neisseria gonorrhoeae > to > > Fatty Acids and Monoglycerides > > http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/43/11/2790 > > > > In Vitro Killing of Candida albicans by Fatty > Acids > > and Monoglycerides > > http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/45/11/3209 > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ken > > > > PS Sanrego is an Indonesian herbal Viagra that can > be > > used to further scientific research in this > exciting > > area. > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" > Sweepstakes > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: Coconut and Palm Kernel Oil STD antagonists.
Lauric acid in unrefined coconut oil (virgin)is also a powerful agent against STDs. VCO contains 47-50% lauric acid and is under research right now for cure of AIDS. regards, Enrico --- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Ken Gotberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Capric acid (C10:0) and monocaprin (capric > monoglyceride) have been found to be sexually > transmitted diseases antagonists. > > Coconut oil 4.5-to-9.7 % capric > Palm kernel oil 3.0-to-7.0% capric > > Seminal papers: > > In Vitro Susceptibilities of Neisseria gonorrhoeae to > Fatty Acids and Monoglycerides > http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/43/11/2790 > > In Vitro Killing of Candida albicans by Fatty Acids > and Monoglycerides > http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/45/11/3209 > > Best regards, > > Ken > > PS Sanrego is an Indonesian herbal Viagra that can be > used to further scientific research in this exciting > area. > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Citing Fire Risk, U.S. to Expand California Logging
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[biofuel] Re: ending of biofuels-biz list
Hi Darryl >Sorry to be coming in a bit late. Had a little trouble recovering from >moving e- mail from one computer to another. (And apparently still >am - my first >send was bounced by my ISP.) > >Keith, I understand your reasoning. I am one who is subscribed to both >lists, and have found that most of the postings on biofuels-biz of late >have been a subset of those on biofuel. Not that it is in any way my >call, but I concur with your decision. I hope it frees up some time for >you for other pursuits. > >I may yet set up a small-scale operation. My initial "business" interest >in biofuels was a desire to interest some local government-operated fleets >in using biodiesel. No luck to date. However, the archives (especially >Martin's) will remain for my future use (and others who may be >interested). > >However, the main reason for this post is to thank Keith for the effort he >has put into maintaining the operation of the two lists to date, and I >sincerely hope, the biofuel list into the future (and the JtF website). Rest assured, no plans at all to close either of those, quite the opposite, especially with the JtF website, lots of expansion in the queue in all categories, we're hoping to give it more time soon. >Given the demands on your time Keith, I don't know how you manage it. :-) Did you ever see a plate-spinner at a circus? >Thank you so very much. Thankyou Darryl, much appreciated. But I should say again that you can work as hard as you like but it won't make any difference unless the people you're working with are fertile ground in the first place. That's definitely the case with the Biofuel list members, both present and past, and also with the Biofuels-biz membership in the past. But the situation has changed, I believe they'd be better off here now. Best wishes Keith >Darryl McMahon Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Washington DC January 28th: Environmentally Friendly Vehicle Conference
I just spoke with them and verified that pretty much anyone could attend. No charge, I think. I want to add that I think at some point these conferences get very confusing and time-consuming and are of dubious value, but, at the same time, they can hit the spot for a person sometimes, if you have a desire to see some of the cars or meet some of the interesting people, or report on some of these matters to other discussion group people, car fans, etc.. http://www.japantransport.com/01-2004-Conf/flyer0104.htm _ We invite you to a conference entitled, "The Development & Dissemination of Environmentally Friendly Vehicles (EFVs): Attaining an Environmentally Friendly Automobile Society," where you can see the newest in automobile technology. This is an opportunity to learn more about the future of fuel cell vehicles, hybrid powered vehicles, and other EFVs that will help shape our transportation future as well as see some examples of what we may be driving tomorrow. It's a one-day free event that features a display of the environmentally-friendly vehicles from Honda, Nissan, Toyota, DaimlerChrysler, Ford, and General Motors, and several distinguished keynote speakers such as Alan Lloyd, Chairman of the California Air Resources Board, and Margo T. Oge, Director of the EPA Office of Transportation and Air Quality. There is no charge for this conference, but advanced registration is required. Please pre-register for this event today! Date: January 28,2004 Time: Conference 2:00-5:00 pm Reception5:00-7:00 pm Car Display 1:00-7:00 pm Price: No charge. Please pre-register either through the website (www.japantransport.com) or by calling JITI 202-833-9763 Location: Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center 1300 Pennsylvania Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20004 Keynote Speakers: Alan Lloyd, Chairman, California Air Resources Board Margo T. Oge, Director, Office of Transportation and Air Quality, US Environmental Protection Agency Kanji Nakayama, Director General, Engineering and Safety Department, Japanese Ministry of Land Infrastructure and Transport Yasuhiro Daisho, Professor, School of Engineering, Waseda University Panelists: Yoshio Kimura, Senior Staff Engineer, Toyota Motor Corporation Chairman-Committee for Electric Propulsion Vehicles, Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association Gregory Dana, Vice President-Environmental Affairs, Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers Kenji Nagamatsu, Senior Representative, Japan International Transport Institute The conference is being co-hosted by the Japan International Transport Institute and the Japan Automobile Standards Internationalization Center. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: Commercial production
iF ANY ONE CAN TELL ME ABOUT COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION I ll BE THANKFUL --- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Jim > > >Sunday, January 18, 2004 > > > >Dear Keith: > > > >Thank you for your thoughtful reply. When I joined the list, I Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] EERE Network News -- 01/21/04
the second-warmest years on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Global temperatures for both years averaged 1.01 degrees Fahrenheit (0.56 degrees Celsius) above the long-term average. The warmest year on record was 1998, when average global temperatures hit 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.44 degrees Celsius) above the long-term average. See the <http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2003/ann/global.html>ann ual review of global temperatures on NOAA's National Climatic Data Center Web site. In a series of announcements over the past three years, President Bush has acknowledged the long-term challenge of global climate change and the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. In early 2003, DOE launched Climate VISION (Voluntary Innovative Sector Initiatives: Opportunities Now), a Presidential public-private partnership to help meet the President's goal of reducing greenhouse gas intensity by 18 percent in 10 years. In December, DOE launched a new <http://www.climatevision.gov/index.html>Climate VISION Web site, which includes <http://www.climatevision.gov/statements.html>President Bush's statements regarding climate change. This newsletter is funded by DOE's <http://www.eere.energy.gov/>Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE) and is also available on the <http://www.eere.energy.gov/news/>EERE news page. You can <http://www.eere.energy.gov/news/about.cfm>subscribe to the EERE Network News using our simple online form, and you can also <http://www.eere.energy.gov/news/changes.cfm>update your email address or <http://www.eere.energy.gov/news/unsubscribe.cfm>unsubscribe online. If you have questions or comments about this newsletter, please <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>contact the editor, Kevin Eber, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are currently subscribed as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: ending of biofuels-biz list
Sorry to be coming in a bit late. Had a little trouble recovering from moving e- mail from one computer to another. (And apparently still am - my first send was bounced by my ISP.) Keith, I understand your reasoning. I am one who is subscribed to both lists, and have found that most of the postings on biofuels-biz of late have been a subset of those on biofuel. Not that it is in any way my call, but I concur with your decision. I hope it frees up some time for you for other pursuits. I may yet set up a small-scale operation. My initial "business" interest in biofuels was a desire to interest some local government-operated fleets in using biodiesel. No luck to date. However, the archives (especially Martin's) will remain for my future use (and others who may be interested). However, the main reason for this post is to thank Keith for the effort he has put into maintaining the operation of the two lists to date, and I sincerely hope, the biofuel list into the future (and the JtF website). Given the demands on your time Keith, I don't know how you manage it. Thank you so very much. Darryl McMahon Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Biodiesel in winter
I reffed some information on this page before, though it wasn't finished yet and wasn't linked from anywhere. Now it's finished, lots more info there, and it's not even spring yet! http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Biodiesel in winter It's linked from this page: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html Biodiesel and your vehicle Best Keith Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] ending of biofuels-biz list
>As the very first contributor to the list, my thanks to Keith for his >sterling work, and an obvious question: >Will the archives still be accessible from Martin Klingensmith's NNYTech >site? > >David T. Thankyou David for your kind words. And thankyou for your contributions all this time. I remember your first message, signed Aeolus, right? About what to do with sub-spec brew. Martin and I have been discussing the archives. I was thinking of merging it with the Biofuel list archives. Would you prefer to have a separate archives? In a merged archives you'd find information from Biofuels-biz, but you'd find a lot more too, more depth, but searching wouldn't be any less efficient or slower. AFAIK. Interested to hear your opinion on this, and any other opinions. Maybe it could be both stand-alone and merged with Biofuel, but I'd have to ask Martin about that, I don't want to put him to too much bother. Regards Keith Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] PLEASE READ: Commercial production - was Re: End of US Biodiesel Research Program
t Regards, > >Jim Miller > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- >Keith Addison wrote: > >>Jim Miller wrote: >> >>>Dr. Tyson: >> >>Dr Tyson is not a list member, her message was forwarded by Tom >>Leue. But maybe someone will forward it to her. >> >>>Your situation is probably a "blessing in disguise". Those of us >>>interested in developing commercial level biodiesel production >>>probably would not have benefited much from future funding by the >>>Feds. >>> >>>1. The sciences is well known and widely distributed. >>> >>>2. Technology transfer has been slow from government and >>>universities to producers. >>> >>>3. A small market exists for B100 and a growing market exists for B20. >>> >>>4. There are not enough truly knowledgeable folks available to >>>guide business startups in B100 production. >>> >>>5. No resolution is in sight for the excessive cost of testing >>>batches of B100 in accordance with ASTM D6751. >>> >>>6. Except for Baker Commodies and a few others, there is no >>>network of companies which collect waste vegetable oils from >>>restaurants and commercial kitchens as feedstock for B100. >>> >>>These issues need more resolution and less research. For instance >>>there is no really competent "cookbook" for the entire B100 >>>process, including regulatory compliance, marketing and product >>>testing. All of the home brew articles are lacking in complete >>>scientific and economic foundations for commercial applications. >> >>That is because the purpose of the "home brew articles" is not to >>support commercial applications but to support homebrewers. That's >>why it's free, and why so many people have been prepared to put >>their time and effort into developing this technology. As Thor said >>of the Biofuel list a while back (I keep quoting him!): >> >> >"I just want to say how important what you all are doing here is. >> >Closed-system fuel production, on a local or small regional scale, >> >tied to local resources, using accessible technologies, and dependent >> >on entrepreneurial innovation combined with open-source information >> >exchange - it's AWESOME. Keep up the good work everyone, before the >> >planet fries." >> >>How does that square with a previous statement here by you? >> >>>15 Nov 2003 12:01:06 -0800 (PST) >>>Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fuel Quality Test for Small Producers >>> >>>If we don't try, we will flounder until one of the biggies takes >>>the market over and precludes us small fish from becoming big fish. >>> >>>Jim Miller >> >>If someone wants to set up a business, why would they expect to get >>all the technical and business information you need for nothing? >>Businesses usually have to pay for such information, why should >>setting up a biodiesel business be any different? Biodiesel is >>biodiesel is biodiesel is good so we should all support commercial >>wannabes? I don't think so. >> >>It's not that the "home brew articles" are somehow inadequate as >>you seem to infer, it's that your intentions are different, and >>perhaps incompatible. In fact the homebrew technology is more than >>adequate for commercial use, and indeed is being so used with >>success. So it's a bit hard to see what you're complaining about. >> >>At Journey to Forever, which is the main hub on the Internet for >>biodiesel information, and which runs this list and the Biofuel >>list, we have no interest in supporting commercial operations, >>though we're often approached by commercial wannabes who somehow >>expect us to undertake major research jobs for them for nothing, >>and can become quite upset with us when we demur. Others, though, >>although they have commercial interest, have a quite different >>approach. It's an interesting difference. >> >>We're a small, under-resourced NGO/NPO focused on 3rd World rural >>development (anti-poverty, anti-hunger), and that's our interest in >>biofuels - it so happens that what suits a homebrewer or farmer or >>whatever in the US or France or Japan has a lot of overlap with >>what suits Appropriate Technology requirements for biofuels >>applications in poor 3rd World villages. Where we do support >>biofuels de
[biofuels-biz] Re: ending of biofuels-biz list and the discussion of the need for standards which might help to promote the biofuels biz
jamie_lutch wrote: >while I understand keith's point, I dont understand the point >of 'running the list requires resources'. Unless the list is >moderated (and I dont think it is), running a yahoo list requires >almost no effort. :-) You reckon. That's an optical illusion. There are plenty of people here who know different. >What would be better, imo, is to allow the biofuels-biz list to >continue, as a low volume biz-only list. If people would stop >crossposting every single thing between both lists, the biofuels-biz >list could take on a life of its own, as a low-volume resource of >information that is independent of the biofuel list. Come on - crossposting every single thing? This list has had 85 messages so far this month, the Biofuel list has had 497. Cross-posting has been discussed on both lists a few times and it's generally agreed that it's generally constructive and positive if done judiciously, which it generally is. Same with forwards. In fact this list has had a life of its own in the past, and not even the distant past, but IMO it's failed to hold onto it and to develop it, despite every encouragement to do so. This is not due to cross-posting nor to any outside influence, it's because the membership as a whole hasn't put enough use into it to give it a clear identity and character that could stand on its own. That's not anybody's fault, what makes such things happen or not happen at a group level is rather imponderable. Quite the opposite has happened to the Biofuel list and that's the real difference between the two groups. See Hakan's message in this thread: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuels-biz/4096/ As for the optical illusion... First, the list is not "moderated", in other words there isn't a person or a whole team of them who vet each message for squeaky-cleanness before it's approved or not approved for distribution to the list members. Like many or most groups now however all new members are automatically on moderation until their first messages prove their bona-fides as genuine list members and not spammers or trolls, which saves the list a LOT of bother, though the members never get to know about it. I do though. Message moderation aside, there certainly is moderation here. Something I realised a long time ago, when someone who didn't appear to do very much went on holiday and everything fell apart, is that good management is a bit like good editing or good design: it's invisible. Until you take it away. Here's an example of its absence: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/31245/ Start about halfway down. The Biodiesel group is another, where there's no moderator at all. That was a good list but it got torn apart in a thoroughly vicious and selfish hate campaign which should never have been allowed to happen, but the list owner refused to take action, said he "enjoyed the group dynamics". Now he's vanished altogether, along with his company's website, and the list sputters along on one cylinder with no direction and little or no purpose. There are others, the wonderful world of online biofuels and alt-fuels/alt-energy is fraught with them, heaven knows why, but it is. That has not been allowed to happen here. I have a rather good picture of what this list and the Biofuel list would be like today if it had. And could still be. Not exactly "almost no effort". Even without that, a good list needs constant attention, there are management issues to be dealt with all the time. The great majority of lists that get started fail to get anywhere or accomplish anything because the people who start them don't realise that. They think the same as you do. I just don't think it's worth it anymore, and messages both on- and off-list from long-term members support that decision. The Biofuels-biz list won't be continuing on its own in any shape or form. If you think there's a need for a "low volume biz-only list", a "low-volume resource of information that is independent of the biofuel list", well, feel free, start one yourself. Best Keith >--- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I understand correctly, Keith is proposing that the needs for >the > > biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled and that in part > > due to time constraints, he is going to wrap-it-up and just keep >the > > biofuels list up and going. That's fine and I offer no criticism >of > > that decision. > > > > What I want to say is that of the many issues I've seen discussed, >and > > whose discussion has been furthered and encouraged by the >existence of > > forums designed to allow for fruitful brainstorming and information
Re: [biofuels-biz] A Better Way to Get From Here to There: A Commentary on the Hydrogen Economy
ally, eergy use has to be greatly reduced, energy efficiency has to be greatly improved, and energy supply has to be decentralised to the local level. In that context wind turbines, especially small, household-scale wind turbines as recently discussed at the Biofuel list, have a significant role to play, along with all the other ready-to-use technologies. >Are there >enough windy places near the power grid to do this? >How about all the dead birds and change in weather, >would it be global warming or cooling taking so much >energy out of the Earths atmosphere. I believe a >problem with these types of articles is a total lack >of quantitative analysis on the part of the authors. >Just some biodiesel and wind will solve the energy >"crisis" - not! See above. (The dead birds issue was also discussed in the wind thread at the Biofuel list.) > > Third, use ethanol made from sugars as a primary > > fuel rather than, as > > now, a 6-10 percent gasoline additive. In the > > United States these > > sugars come from corn. In Brazil they come from > > sugar cane, in > > Europe from wheat. Commercial operations to use the > > sugars extracted > > from the far more abundant cellulosic resources, > > like grasses, corn > > stalks, wheat straw and urban organic wastes, are > > beginning to come > > on-line. > > > > "A sugar economy makes more sense than a hydrogen > > economy," said > > Morris. "Ethanol is less expensive to produce than > > hydrogen, it is > > more environmentally friendly than hydrogen produced > > from > > nonrenewable resources, and ethanol production could > > bring major > > economic benefits to Minnesota's rural areas. > > >Its a question of food to fuel and is this the best >way to go? It's not a question of food to fuel, that's a red herring. Please see: Biofuels - Food or Fuel? http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_food.html And: Is ethanol energy-efficient? http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html >I read an NREL report awhile back that >claims syngas is the most efficient and competitive >alternative. Maybe so because the entire biomas can >be used and there is no intermediary fermentation >step. Whether or not syngas is the most efficient and competitive alternative isn't really that relevant, it is one alternative among many and they're all needed. What is most efficient and competitive varies very widely, in reality there's no one-size-fits-all solution, this kind of top-down approach warps reality. As we can see today. Anyway, competitive with what? With fossil fuels? While we all pretend not to notice the massive fossil fuel subsidies, visible and hidden, and talk about "level playing fields"? No you didn't, I know, but that's the usual ploy. Best wishes Keith >BTW the US$1 million per vehicle and a $600,000 per >fuel station cost is absurd even for the military. > >Best regards, >Ken Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Lessons from Bay Area biodiesel distributors?
fall hit, the bad offspec fuel was noticably worse, and peopel began reporting problems with filter plugging (including a number of peopel with new cars which had no reason to expect plugging) and with injector clogging, and stopped cars (and 'hard starts'). The fuel that was being sold at NAFT included, or was mostly composed of, this offspec IWP product, wherever they were buying it. Eventually the problems with the bad fuel caused a great deal of expensive repairs for many, many B100 users in our area. This was especially bad for NAFT customers since they didn't have any knowledgeable customer service to fall back on. It led to rumors and to many people trying to get their fuel elsewhere. Yokayo's customers were having the same problem (the IWP fuel) but Yokayo was paying people's large repair bills, pumping out their tanks, and explaining what was happening, and was trying to collect the costs from IWP. NAFT was probably completely lost by the intricacies of this all (as you might be by now in this tome). Somewhere during all this time (late summer?), IWP had told Yokayo that there was a coming price reduction- and there was instead an immediate price hike from IWP, right after Yokayo had lowered their fuel charges in anticipation of the promised price reduction. I do not know if the same thing happened to Western States or NAFT but it seems likely . the price of fuel at Western States went up, as it did at NAFT. People really began to complain about instability. Yokayo decided to eat part of their profit in the interest of price stability, and didn't raise costs correspondingly. Recently, in the midst of the IWP fuel quality crisis and complaining enraged customers, NAFT stopped selling biodiesel entirely.. * My analysis is that this venture failed because it lost community support and alienated a well-informed consumer base, and that the industry's actions in regards to bad quality offspec fuel, helped us lose this gas station pump. It was just too weird for the gas station owner to work into his business operations. 1. the guy lost the community support which formerly had allowed him to sell more biodiesel than he would have sold petrodiesel, via his own actions (not the biodiesel industry's fault). 2. There was pricing instability, along with apparent unkept promises from the industry that the price reduction was just around the corner. That reduction has never materialised. 3. Worse, there was the unpardonable several months of off-spec fuel being delivered by Imperial Western Products with no apparent recall of the bad product that made it's way to NAFT. Customers of Yokayo Biofuels or or the Berkeley Biodiesel Coop were able to get the information they needed, filters, pump-outs, recalls, and otherwise knew what was happening (YOkayo now has started selling Griffin INdustries fuel). Off-the-street customers of Naft were not getting any support on their vehicle problems caused by Imperial Western's offspec fuel. This went on for months, losing them customers, until it lost us the gas station. 4. Somewhere around that time Yokayo helped develop some other small retail distributors: the Hopland B100 pump at Solar Living Center, Biofuel Station in Laytonville, and Biofuel Oasis in Berkeley. In light of all of the above (and a few other case studies of problems with B100 distribution from mainstream petroleum distributors), it seems to point towards dedicated B100-focused businesses who can handle the education and customer support needed, rather than continuing to try and get B100 at gas stations whose idea of 'sales volume' is something else entirely than our customers can supply. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: ending of biofuels-biz list and the discussion of the need for standards which might help to promote the biofuels biz
while I understand keith's point, I dont understand the point of 'running the list requires resources'. Unless the list is moderated (and I dont think it is), running a yahoo list requires almost no effort. What would be better, imo, is to allow the biofuels-biz list to continue, as a low volume biz-only list. If people would stop crossposting every single thing between both lists, the biofuels-biz list could take on a life of its own, as a low-volume resource of information that is independent of the biofuel list. --- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I understand correctly, Keith is proposing that the needs for the > biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled and that in part > due to time constraints, he is going to wrap-it-up and just keep the > biofuels list up and going. That's fine and I offer no criticism of > that decision. > > What I want to say is that of the many issues I've seen discussed, and > whose discussion has been furthered and encouraged by the existence of > forums designed to allow for fruitful brainstorming and information > exchange, one of the issues of prime ongoing not-settled (in my view) > importance is the issue of the relation of small producers to > government chemical and business regulations. > > In my view, a primary way that the US (and probably other) government > opposes and messes up progress in alt fuels is to do and say nothing. > There is (in my view) a job to do here to provide for some > guidance and some response to what is going on in the community, > instead of getting in the way to decide if or when there are any > reasonable (by whose standard?) laws or regulations that would help > rather than hinder development of at-home and small-scale biofuel > production in the US. > > So, even if the biz discussion group is ended, I hope we continue to > see productive discussion of this issue. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] ending of biofuels-biz list
As the very first contributor to the list, my thanks to Keith for his sterling work, and an obvious question: Will the archives still be accessible from Martin Klingensmith's NNYTech site? David T. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] ending of biofuels-biz list and the discussion of the need for standards which might help to promote the biofuels biz
MM wrote: >If I understand correctly, Keith is proposing that the needs for the >biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled and that in part >due to time constraints, he is going to wrap-it-up and just keep the >biofuels list up and going. That's fine and I offer no criticism of >that decision. That's more or less right, more news soon. Hm, actually I didn't say the needs for the biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled, bit different. Here's the message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuels-biz/4095/ >What I want to say is that of the many issues I've seen discussed, and >whose discussion has been furthered and encouraged by the existence of >forums designed to allow for fruitful brainstorming and information >exchange, one of the issues of prime ongoing not-settled (in my view) >importance is the issue of the relation of small producers to >government chemical and business regulations. Indeed not settled. >In my view, a primary way that the US (and probably other) government >opposes and messes up progress in alt fuels is to do and say nothing. >There is (in my view) a job to do here to provide for some >guidance and some response to what is going on in the community, >instead of getting in the way to decide if or when there are any >reasonable (by whose standard?) laws or regulations that would help >rather than hinder development of at-home and small-scale biofuel >production in the US. > >So, even if the biz discussion group is ended, I hope we continue to >see productive discussion of this issue. Actually I think the Biofuels-biz group had become irrelevant, such a discussion is much more likely to happen at the Biofuel list, and likely to be more fruitful too. I agree with you MM. This is a follow-on from your previous message in response to my forwarding the "Politics of Energy: Oil & Gas" article - your message is here: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/31275/ I wanted to reply to that but haven't had a chance yet, no keyboarding time for me today, and now it's nearly dawn and I'm going to crash. More later... But meanwhile please go ahead with anything you can think of to get such a discussion going here, I'll try to jump aboard once I've uncrashed. regards Keith Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] ending of biofuels-biz list and the discussion ofthe need for standards which might help to promote the biofuels biz
MM wrote: >If I understand correctly, Keith is proposing that the needs for the >biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled and that in part >due to time constraints, he is going to wrap-it-up and just keep the >biofuels list up and going. That's fine and I offer no criticism of >that decision. That's more or less right, more news soon. Hm, actually I didn't say the needs for the biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled, bit different. Here's the message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuels-biz/4095/ >What I want to say is that of the many issues I've seen discussed, and >whose discussion has been furthered and encouraged by the existence of >forums designed to allow for fruitful brainstorming and information >exchange, one of the issues of prime ongoing not-settled (in my view) >importance is the issue of the relation of small producers to >government chemical and business regulations. Indeed not settled. >In my view, a primary way that the US (and probably other) government >opposes and messes up progress in alt fuels is to do and say nothing. >There is (in my view) a job to do here to provide for some >guidance and some response to what is going on in the community, >instead of getting in the way to decide if or when there are any >reasonable (by whose standard?) laws or regulations that would help >rather than hinder development of at-home and small-scale biofuel >production in the US. > >So, even if the biz discussion group is ended, I hope we continue to >see productive discussion of this issue. Actually I think the Biofuels-biz group had become irrelevant, such a discussion is much more likely to happen at the Biofuel list, and likely to be more fruitful too. I agree with you MM. This is a follow-on from your previous message in response to my forwarding the "Politics of Energy: Oil & Gas" article - your message is here: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/31275/ I wanted to reply to that but haven't had a chance yet, no keyboarding time for me today, and now it's nearly dawn and I'm going to crash. More later... But meanwhile please go ahead with anything you can think of to get such a discussion going here, I'll try to jump aboard once I've uncrashed. regards Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] ending of biofuels-biz list and the discussion of the need for standards which might help to promote the biofuels biz
If I understand correctly, Keith is proposing that the needs for the biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled and that in part due to time constraints, he is going to wrap-it-up and just keep the biofuels list up and going. That's fine and I offer no criticism of that decision. What I want to say is that of the many issues I've seen discussed, and whose discussion has been furthered and encouraged by the existence of forums designed to allow for fruitful brainstorming and information exchange, one of the issues of prime ongoing not-settled (in my view) importance is the issue of the relation of small producers to government chemical and business regulations. In my view, a primary way that the US (and probably other) government opposes and messes up progress in alt fuels is to do and say nothing. There is (in my view) a job to do here to provide for some guidance and some response to what is going on in the community, instead of getting in the way to decide if or when there are any reasonable (by whose standard?) laws or regulations that would help rather than hinder development of at-home and small-scale biofuel production in the US. So, even if the biz discussion group is ended, I hope we continue to see productive discussion of this issue. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] ending of biofuels-biz list and the discussion of the need for standards which might help to promote the biofuels biz
If I understand correctly, Keith is proposing that the needs for the biofuels biz list have been more or less fulfilled and that in part due to time constraints, he is going to wrap-it-up and just keep the biofuels list up and going. That's fine and I offer no criticism of that decision. What I want to say is that of the many issues I've seen discussed, and whose discussion has been furthered and encouraged by the existence of forums designed to allow for fruitful brainstorming and information exchange, one of the issues of prime ongoing not-settled (in my view) importance is the issue of the relation of small producers to government chemical and business regulations. In my view, a primary way that the US (and probably other) government opposes and messes up progress in alt fuels is to do and say nothing. There is (in my view) a job to do here to provide for some guidance and some response to what is going on in the community, instead of getting in the way to decide if or when there are any reasonable (by whose standard?) laws or regulations that would help rather than hinder development of at-home and small-scale biofuel production in the US. So, even if the biz discussion group is ended, I hope we continue to see productive discussion of this issue. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] A Better Way to Get From Here to There: A Commentary on the Hydrogen Economy
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Re: [biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the pump for dino?
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Re: [biofuels-biz] PLEASE READ: Commercial production - was Re: End of US Biodiesel Research Program
Sunday, January 18, 2004 Dear Keith: Thank you for your thoughtful reply. When I joined the list, I did not understand that the list was intended primarily (or only) for the home brew hobbyists. It is good that you have done a very great service to that audience. I understand your view that the commercialization of the process is beyond your time and resources. Again, the list has provided me with many valuable insights into processing biofuel, for which I thank you and the other contributors. If there is a commercial oriented, biofuel list, please give me the URL. Since many an enterprise has started in the owner's garage, the list is of considerable value to getting that audience up to speed on the basics. However, there comes a point where profit is important if biofuel production is to take root and grow in America as a viable alternative fuel (or additive). I am at that point -- wanting to go commercial, but not convinced that I know all of the parts and process necessary for a profitable operation. Before going commercial I will need to have a complete roadmap, including a very detailed cookbook. If none exists, I need to know that so that I can then turn my efforts toward creating my own cookbook. In fact I am now enrolled in Montana State University and pursuing a BS in microbiology in order to better formulate not only the reactions, but to develop greater understanding of the entire process, including refining of glycerol into 99.5% USP glycerine. Please do not take my comments as complaints -- they are not. I am searching for answers, the same as most of the list members. One of my concerns is that if some of the home brewers do not "graduate" into commercial applications, the field will be exclusively occupied by the big companies. Baker Commodities is collection waste oils from restaurants in Belgrade, MT (and most of the northwest), taking them to Spokane where the company is in the process of building a biodiesel refinery. Once Baker Commodities accomplishes this feat, it will tend to prevent or make more difficult any other commercial startups, simply because Baker Commodities has control over the supply of feed stock. In time, the large companies could obtain such strong, exclusive control over the WVO, that even home brewers will have difficulty obtaining free feed stock. It is thus for the benefit of the home brewers and the entry level commercial wannabes, that somehow, some of us start on the path to commercialization. I would not like to see that by default, only the large corporations dominate the biofuel market. Shortly after crude oil was first discovered in the U.S. and made into gas in the northeast and midlands of the US, there were hundreds of oil companies. Now there are a few. Consolidation works against the interest of the consumer. We have a chance to develop and maintain great diversity of biofuel production if we -- the small producers -- can ever get organized. Part of fulfilling that need is to obtain a competent, very carefully written cookbook for the small producer, regardless of whether profit is the main motive or only a collateral motive. It is not the motive (profit or non-profit) that is important, but our willingness to develop alternative fuel in the form of biodiesel on a small scale, widely distributed basis. The biofuel list, regardless of whether it is "biz" or "non-biz" could be the source or at least the distributor of the cookbook. If the source, royalties could help with the expenses and prolong the life of the list and make life easier for the list maintainer(s). Profit will drive not only the business, but provide funds (by way of contributions) to support efforts such as Journey to Forever. Even NPO's need to make "profits" (excess of income over expenses) in order to survive and grow. Thanks again for your positive comments. Best Regards, Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] PLEASE READ: Commercial production - was Re: End of US Biodiesel Research Program
Keith, A good and logical decision. Following both lists I have the following impressions, - The biofuel list is more vibrant and in line with JTF interests. - The biofuel-biz does not offer enough unique value, between the members. - The biofuel.biz might save the members from some very interesting principal debates that the international members take up, but do not offer any unique value for development in the non-industrial countries. - It must be a significant extra work for you, that can be spent on better things, which is beneficial for all members or yourself. - It must be a very large cross membership between the lists, my guess would be around 80%, so a consolidation is natural. Hakan At 08:51 18/01/2004, you wrote: >Jim Miller wrote: > > >Dr. Tyson: > >Dr Tyson is not a list member, her message was forwarded by Tom Leue. >But maybe someone will forward it to her. > > >Your situation is probably a "blessing in disguise". Those of us > >interested in developing commercial level biodiesel production > >probably would not have benefited much from future funding by the > >Feds. > > > >1. The sciences is well known and widely distributed. > > > >2. Technology transfer has been slow from government and > >universities to producers. > > > >3. A small market exists for B100 and a growing market exists for B20. > > > >4. There are not enough truly knowledgeable folks available to > >guide business startups in B100 production. > > > >5. No resolution is in sight for the excessive cost of testing > >batches of B100 in accordance with ASTM D6751. > > > >6. Except for Baker Commodies and a few others, there is no network > >of companies which collect waste vegetable oils from restaurants and > >commercial kitchens as feedstock for B100. > > > >These issues need more resolution and less research. For instance > >there is no really competent "cookbook" for the entire B100 process, > >including regulatory compliance, marketing and product testing. All > >of the home brew articles are lacking in complete scientific and > >economic foundations for commercial applications. > >That is because the purpose of the "home brew articles" is not to >support commercial applications but to support homebrewers. That's >why it's free, and why so many people have been prepared to put their >time and effort into developing this technology. As Thor said of the >Biofuel list a while back (I keep quoting him!): > > >"I just want to say how important what you all are doing here is. > >Closed-system fuel production, on a local or small regional scale, > >tied to local resources, using accessible technologies, and dependent > >on entrepreneurial innovation combined with open-source information > >exchange - it's AWESOME. Keep up the good work everyone, before the > >planet fries." > >How does that square with a previous statement here by you? > > >15 Nov 2003 12:01:06 -0800 (PST) > >Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fuel Quality Test for Small Producers > > > >If we don't try, we will flounder until one of the biggies takes the > >market over and precludes us small fish from becoming big fish. > > > >Jim Miller > >If someone wants to set up a business, why would they expect to get >all the technical and business information you need for nothing? >Businesses usually have to pay for such information, why should >setting up a biodiesel business be any different? Biodiesel is >biodiesel is biodiesel is good so we should all support commercial >wannabes? I don't think so. > >It's not that the "home brew articles" are somehow inadequate as you >seem to infer, it's that your intentions are different, and perhaps >incompatible. In fact the homebrew technology is more than adequate >for commercial use, and indeed is being so used with success. So it's >a bit hard to see what you're complaining about. > >At Journey to Forever, which is the main hub on the Internet for >biodiesel information, and which runs this list and the Biofuel list, >we have no interest in supporting commercial operations, though we're >often approached by commercial wannabes who somehow expect us to >undertake major research jobs for them for nothing, and can become >quite upset with us when we demur. Others, though, although they have >commercial interest, have a quite different approach. It's an >interesting difference. > >We're a small, under-resourced NGO/NPO focused on 3rd World rural >development (anti-poverty, anti-hunger), and that's our interest in >biofuels - it so h
[biofuels-biz] PLEASE READ: Commercial production - was Re: End of US Biodiesel Research Program
Jim Miller wrote: >Dr. Tyson: Dr Tyson is not a list member, her message was forwarded by Tom Leue. But maybe someone will forward it to her. >Your situation is probably a "blessing in disguise". Those of us >interested in developing commercial level biodiesel production >probably would not have benefited much from future funding by the >Feds. > >1. The sciences is well known and widely distributed. > >2. Technology transfer has been slow from government and >universities to producers. > >3. A small market exists for B100 and a growing market exists for B20. > >4. There are not enough truly knowledgeable folks available to >guide business startups in B100 production. > >5. No resolution is in sight for the excessive cost of testing >batches of B100 in accordance with ASTM D6751. > >6. Except for Baker Commodies and a few others, there is no network >of companies which collect waste vegetable oils from restaurants and >commercial kitchens as feedstock for B100. > >These issues need more resolution and less research. For instance >there is no really competent "cookbook" for the entire B100 process, >including regulatory compliance, marketing and product testing. All >of the home brew articles are lacking in complete scientific and >economic foundations for commercial applications. That is because the purpose of the "home brew articles" is not to support commercial applications but to support homebrewers. That's why it's free, and why so many people have been prepared to put their time and effort into developing this technology. As Thor said of the Biofuel list a while back (I keep quoting him!): >"I just want to say how important what you all are doing here is. >Closed-system fuel production, on a local or small regional scale, >tied to local resources, using accessible technologies, and dependent >on entrepreneurial innovation combined with open-source information >exchange - it's AWESOME. Keep up the good work everyone, before the >planet fries." How does that square with a previous statement here by you? >15 Nov 2003 12:01:06 -0800 (PST) >Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fuel Quality Test for Small Producers > >If we don't try, we will flounder until one of the biggies takes the >market over and precludes us small fish from becoming big fish. > >Jim Miller If someone wants to set up a business, why would they expect to get all the technical and business information you need for nothing? Businesses usually have to pay for such information, why should setting up a biodiesel business be any different? Biodiesel is biodiesel is biodiesel is good so we should all support commercial wannabes? I don't think so. It's not that the "home brew articles" are somehow inadequate as you seem to infer, it's that your intentions are different, and perhaps incompatible. In fact the homebrew technology is more than adequate for commercial use, and indeed is being so used with success. So it's a bit hard to see what you're complaining about. At Journey to Forever, which is the main hub on the Internet for biodiesel information, and which runs this list and the Biofuel list, we have no interest in supporting commercial operations, though we're often approached by commercial wannabes who somehow expect us to undertake major research jobs for them for nothing, and can become quite upset with us when we demur. Others, though, although they have commercial interest, have a quite different approach. It's an interesting difference. We're a small, under-resourced NGO/NPO focused on 3rd World rural development (anti-poverty, anti-hunger), and that's our interest in biofuels - it so happens that what suits a homebrewer or farmer or whatever in the US or France or Japan has a lot of overlap with what suits Appropriate Technology requirements for biofuels applications in poor 3rd World villages. Where we do support biofuels developments in the US or France or Japan it is only in small-scale, decentralized, farm- or community level local projects. We're not against commercial production, but we're a bit particular about the *sort* or quality if you like of a commercial operation. There was an interesting discussion of this a month back on the Biofuel list, these are the most relevant messages: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30316/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30354/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30366/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30401/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/30405/ We started the Biofuels-biz list two and a half years ago, because a lot of people asked us to. Even then we tried to focus it on the small and local: "For anyone making biofuels for distribution, whether
Re: [biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the pump for dino?
If anyone is interested in the regional prices within the US, go to: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp John Rosenstock --- Charles Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > top of the morning, > It might be real interesting to include the break > out the taxes for a net > cost of the fuel.Great idea. > regards Chuck Chambers > - Original Message - > From: "Andrew Lowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:03 AM > Subject: [biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the > pump for dino? > > > > Hi all, > > As Keith points out from time to time, there are > members of these two > > lists situated all over the world. With this in > mind, I was just > > wondering the other day what people around the > world are paying for > > dinodiesel? > > > > So the next time you are filling up, if you > haven't gone full bio yet, > > or driving down the road and pass a petrol > station, take a note of the > > diesel price and let the list know. If there is > enough response, I'll > > convert the info into a nice table in a couple of > currencies and post it > > to the list. > > > > So in summary, if you reply, please indicate where > you are, country, > > state/province, city/town, the units of > measurement, litre/gallon, the > > price and the name of your currency. > > > > Regards, > > Andrew Lowe > > > > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at > NNYTech: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the > list address. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] The Politics of Energy: Coal How did coal become the Bush administration's fuel of choice?
age reform and remedy reform." Introduced by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the bill died before the Senate Environment & Public Works Committee. The trade group, of course, is not the only coal-related interest to get what it wants. Peabody Energy, AEI Resources and a host of other firms whose business is derived primarily from coal routinely fight in Washington not only for their industry's economic survival and prosperity, but also to keep those same Washington entities out of their business. While tax breaks, economic incentives and government appropriations - often larded with various contracts for these same firms - are popular issues among coal lobbyists, none is more so than the role of the EPA, Interior Department, Energy Department and other agencies in regulating coal production and distribution. Like many other energy producers, coal companies must deal with a sort of cross-regulation not experienced by, say, telecommunications companies, who typically only deal with the Federal Communications Commission, unless they run afoul of the law (in which case they, like other publicly traded companies, must face the wrath of the Justice Department and Securities and Exchange Commission.) Coal companies, by contrast, must negotiate their way through vast bureaucracies on the local, state, and federal levels, and must even deal with the federal bureaus of land management and Indian affairs if attempting to establish operations near an Indian reservation. Among its most recent targets are the New Source Review regulations, established as part of the 1977 amendments to the Clean Air Act, and meant to improve air quality. In a June 2002 statement, and acting upon the recommendations of the National Energy Policy Development Task Force, chaired by Vice President Cheney, the EPA noted that "the NSR program has impeded or resulted in the cancellation of projects that would maintain or improve reliability, efficiency or safety of existing power plants and refineries. There is overwhelming support for reform from a diverse group of people and organizations." That support extends to private sector interests; Linda G. Stuntz, deputy energy secretary in former President George H.W. Bush's administration now runs her own law and lobbying practice, Stuntz Davis & Staffier. In 2001, PacifiCorp paid her roughly $80,000 to guide modifications to NSR rules, in addition to an economic stimulus package and multi-pollutant control legislation. Stuntz has also served on the board of the Columbus, Ohio-based utility American Electric Power since 1993. "I know this is a complicated and politically charged issue, but I don't see how any policy that relies on uncertainty and litigation can really be good," Stuntz told the Center. "There is a better way." All this red tape, predictably, is something about which the industry is not terribly fond. Perhaps the most popular single issue for companies since 1996 is the environmental aspect of electric utility restructuring legislation, effectively deregulating various entities, but at a fairly steep environmental compliance cost (stricter adherence to the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts, for instance, or seeking to modify the New Source Review regulations). While the economic health of the coal industry is certain to be a topic of debate as newer technologies continue to encroach upon its once certain domain as the nation's premier energy source, the legislative battles being waged to maintain that prominence have not gone completely undetected. Some members of Congress are aware of the closeness between lawmakers, their aides, and the industries they are charged with overseeing. With an administration that has put forward the industry's position at every turn, oversight has suffered. On the House floor April 23, 2002, Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) summed up the perception of energy industry influence in a concise, if partisan, manner. "A lot of this breakdown or effort to downgrade and change in a very dangerous way the clean air act is linked to energy policies of the utilities in the energy industry. And, of course, we know that the President is very close to the oil industry," Pallone told his colleagues. "In fact, the top administration EPA official in charge of enforcing air pollution regulation for coal power plants, and coal power plants are a major source of air pollution, he [EPA Office of Regulatory Enforcement chief Eric V. Schaeffer] was so tired of fighting the White House that he decided to resign I guess just a few weeks ago or about a month ago. And in his letter of resignation he said he was tired of 'fighting a White House that seems determined to weaken the rules we are trying to enforce.'" Bill Allison, Kevin Bogardus, Alex Cohen, Bernadette Cullen and Bill Dawson contributed to this report. To write a letter to the editor for publication, please fill out this form and include a daytime phone number. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the pump for dino?
top of the morning, It might be real interesting to include the break out the taxes for a net cost of the fuel.Great idea. regards Chuck Chambers - Original Message - From: "Andrew Lowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:03 AM Subject: [biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the pump for dino? > Hi all, > As Keith points out from time to time, there are members of these two > lists situated all over the world. With this in mind, I was just > wondering the other day what people around the world are paying for > dinodiesel? > > So the next time you are filling up, if you haven't gone full bio yet, > or driving down the road and pass a petrol station, take a note of the > diesel price and let the list know. If there is enough response, I'll > convert the info into a nice table in a couple of currencies and post it > to the list. > > So in summary, if you reply, please indicate where you are, country, > state/province, city/town, the units of measurement, litre/gallon, the > price and the name of your currency. > > Regards, > Andrew Lowe > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM ---------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] The Water Barons
Good new series on water privatization from the Center for Public Integrity - detailed reports on each of the sections below. See also: http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/water/ CBC News - Indepth: Water Privatization http://www.icij.org/water/ The Water Barons January 17, 2004 INTRODUCTION Cholera and the Age of the Water Barons The explosive growth of three private water utility companies in the last 10 years raises fears that mankind may be losing control of its most vital resource to a handful of monopolistic corporations. In Europe and North America, analysts predict that within the next 15 years these companies will control 65 percent to 75 percent of what are now public waterworks. The companies have worked closely with the World Bank and other international financial institutions to gain a foothold on every continent. They aggressively lobby for legislation and trade laws to force cities to privatize their water and set the agenda for debate on solutions to the world's increasing water scarcity. The companies argue they are more efficient and cheaper than public utilities. Critics say they are predatory capitalists that ultimately plan to control the world's water resources and drive up prices even as the gap between rich and poor widens. The fear is that accountability will vanish, and the world will lose control of its source of life. FRANCE Water and Power: The French Connection France is the birthplace of modern water privatization, but its leading companies have been rocked by scandals and allegations of influence-peddling. SOUTH AFRICA Metered to Death: How a Water Experiment Caused Riots and a Cholera Epidemic The biggest problem in this country ravaged by AIDS, tuberculosis and malnourishment, is water. Few can afford it. But with World Bank blessing, the government is trying to end water subsidies, forcing millions of South Africans to seek their water from polluted rivers and lakes. The result: one of the largest outbreaks of cholera. ARGENTINA The 'Aguas' Tango: Cashing In On Buenos Aires' Privatization Global water giants partnered to run a water system in the Argentine capital that the World Bank touted as a model of privatization. Investors extracted millions in profits. But now the model is crumbling under the weight of mounting costs. PHILIPPINES Loaves, Fishes and Dirty Dishes: Manila's Privatized Water Can't Handle the Pressure Politically connected families and private companies split Manila in two to share turf. At first, the two companies brought miracles by bringing running water to thousands of poor people who never had it. Now the miracle has faded as one company bails out, leaving behind enormous debts. INDONESIA Water and Politics in the Fall of Suharto Two powerful multinationals deftly used the World Bank and a compliant dictatorship to split control of a major city's waterworks. COLOMBIA A Tale of Two Cities Coastal Cartagena was the first of about 50 cities and towns to privatize its water in Colombia. The capital Bogot bucked the privatization trend, refused World Bank money and transformed its public utility into the most successful in Colombia. UNITED STATES Low Rates, Needed Repairs Lure 'Big Water' to Uncle Sam's Plumbing Foreign private companies are gearing up to control a multibillion-dollar market to upgrade the nation's aging water system, after spending millions of dollars over the last six years to sway Congressional votes on privatization laws. Americans have the safest and cheapest public water systems in the world. But, as foreign companies flex their financial muscle, America's drinking water may not be so cheap or public for long. CANADA Hard Water: The Uphill Campaign to Privatize Canada's Waterworks Hamilton was the first privatized large water utility in Canada, a country where waterworks have been overwhelmingly a public affair - and where most people like it that way. The Hamilton experience was supposed to demonstrate an alternative, free market model, supposed to change public opinion. It has. But not as expected. AUSTRALIA The Big Pong Down Under Fifteen months after Adelaide signed a contract turning over its waterworks to a private consortium controlled by Thames Water and Vivendi, the city was engulfed in a powerful sewage smell, which became known as "the big pong.'' © 2003, The Center for Public Integrity. All rights reserved. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] A Better Way to Get From Here to There: A Commentary on the Hydrogen Economy
ey trade disputes currently involve farmers in industrialized countries pitted against farmers in poorer countries. Rather than have carbohydrates compete with carbohydrates, a biofuel program would allow carbohydrates to compete with hydrocarbons. The agricultural sector and farming communities in poorer countries are far bigger than in the United States and Europe. And the use of plant matter to displace imported fossil fuels is even more compelling in poorer countries that lack the hard currencies needed to pay for these imports. A decision to focus on an electricity/biofuel path for the transportation sector does not preclude the rapid deployment of fuel cells. Indeed, the fuel cell economy is developing rapidly without a hydrogen distribution network. Fuel cells have the attractive potential of decentralizing and democracizing the electricity system, reducing system costs and lowering the likelihood of repetitions of widespread blackouts like the one that occurred in the northeastern United States in August 2003. A fuel cell economy does not depend on a hydrogen economy as currently envisioned. The strategy currently envisioned to effect a hydrogen economy may be diverting significant intellectual, financial and political resources from more attractive strategies. Before we take that leap, we should take a long hard look at the premises and promises of the hydrogen economy and at the other alternatives available that could achieve the same goals more quickly and cheaply. The New Rules Project http://www.newrules.org/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] The Politics of Energy: Coal How a conservative think tank gave Bush the cover he needed to break his carbon dioxide pledge
ld be affected by government restrictions on CO2: American Petroleum Institute, Amoco, (now part of BP Amoco), Burlington Northern Railroad, CSX Corp. (another rail company), Dow Chemical, Ford Motor Co. and General Motors. Smith volunteered to give the Center a list of the 26 sponsors of CEI's 2002 fundraising dinner, which he said was a typical sample of the group's donors except that foundations were underrepresented. Companies and trade groups on the list, and the amounts they donated, included these with an interest in the CO2 issue-ExxonMobil ($25,000); General Motors ($15,000); and Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, American Airlines, American Chemistry Council, American Petroleum Institute and National Mining Association ($5,000 each). CEI's efforts to debunk global warming concerns and fight CO2 regulation over the years have included frequent collaborations with industry and industry-connected groups and individuals. One of CEI's coal-related partners in an e-mail campaign calling for Bush to drop the power plant pledge, for instance, was the Greening Earth Society, which has argued energetically that "having more CO2 in the atmosphere will be good, not bad." Greening Earth is an entitity of the Colorado-based Western Fuels Association, a non-profit buyer, producer and transporter of coal, which is itself owned by 19 electric cooperatives, municipal utilities and other public power bodies. In one of its own actions, Western Fuels in 2000 sued several environmental groups, alleging "commercial defamation" because they had published an opinion ad in the New York Times and a website linking coal to global warming, and global warming to assorted problems. In 2000, McIntosh, still the chair of the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Economic Growth, Natural Resources and Regulatory Affairs, held a hearing where he declared that the coal industry was "targeted for extinction" by the Kyoto Protocol. McIntosh solicited testimony by Mark P. Mills, who was then both a Greening Earth science advisor and CEI senior fellow. Mills argued that the Internet and electronic commerce depend on coal-fired electricity. In 1998, an American Petroleum Institute document-obtained from an industry source by the National Environmental Trust and shared with the New York Times-mentioned CEI as a "potential fund allocator" for a projected $2 million campaign to debunk worries about global warming. The document proposed recruiting five "independent scientists" to generate media coverage for the argument "that science does not support the Kyoto treaty-which most true climate scientists believe to be the case." Southern Co. was listed as a planner of the potential project, while the National Mining Association and Edison Electric Institute were called "possible funding sources." Spinning for the Bush administration CEI's assistance was sought in 2002 by former American Petroleum Institute official Philip Cooney for a different purpose, though one that also involved public relations. Cooney, who served on API's "climate team" and was registered as a lobbyist for the group in 1998, had switched jobs by the time he made the request. He had joined the Bush White House as chief of staff at the Council on Environmental Quality, which broadly coordinates the president's environmental policy. On June 3 last year, news broke that the United States had delivered a new report on man-made global warming to the U.N., forecasting a variety of probable and troubling outcomes that included more heat waves, disrupted water supplies, and damage to fragile ecosystems such as wetlands and mountain meadows. The report clearly presented a dilemma for the administration, which was already being accused of responding weakly to the climate issue. The next day, following up news about the report, a reporter asked Bush if he was planning any new initiatives to "combat global warming." The president's reply was regarded by some observers as an effort to distance himself from the new climate assessment, but administration officials later said the reply was consistent with previous remarks by Bush on the issue: "No," he said, "I've laid out that very comprehensive initiative. I read the report put out by a-put out by the bureaucracy. I do not support the Kyoto treaty." At a later press briefing, then-White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer amplified upon Bush's "bureaucracy" reference: "This is a report that came out of the EPA." As journalists and environmentalists noted, however, the report was not just a product of the EPA, but was the work of several agencies and had been thoroughly reviewed by White House staff members, including officials at the Council on Environmental Quality. What was not revealed until about four months later, however, was that the day before Bush's and Fleischer's comments about "the bureaucracy" and "the EPA," Cooney had asked for CEI's assistance (specifically, for help in getting "positive spin," Smith later told the Center) in dealing with controversy over the report. In an e-mailed reply to Cooney-later obtained by the environmental group Greenpeace with a Freedom of Information Act request-Ebell thanked Cooney for his call and suggested that "the folks at the EPA are the obvious fall guys." CEI was giving the administration its talking points. 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[biofuels-biz] The Politics of Energy: Nuclear Power The Bush administration makes the nuclear industry's agenda its own
billion five-year DOE contract to begin work on building the Yucca repository in March 2001, oversees portions of its own operation. Currently, Bechtel-SAIC shares quality assurance functions with Navarro Research and Engineering and the Department of Energy. Documents obtained by the Center for Public Integrity show that Bechtel-SAIC performs over half of the quality assurance responsibilities, according to the 2004 fiscal year's internal audit schedule. The project's annual report goes further, and recommends that all quality assurance monitoring be transferred to the site's builders. "Right now the DOE is taking credit for [Bechtel-SAIC's quality assurance] audits of itself," said Kristi Hodges, a 15-year project employee and the Special Project Liaison at the site. "From a contracts standpoint, it is wrong. From a QA standpoint, it is hardly defensible." Ultimately, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission will have the final say on whether or not Yucca Mountain will be a licensed nuclear facility. Experts believe nothing is set in stone yet. "There are a lot of technical issues," said Belke. "This program is wide open here for interpretation." "I believe there has been a lot of good work. We have some of the most brilliant people in the world working on the project," said Hodges. "From my perspective, the management has been bad." Yet the quality assurance team at Yucca is under ever-increasing stress to meet a December 2004 deadline for obtaining NRC approval. Data flaws and statistical errors linger but staffers are commanded to "keep their head down." An investigation by the General Accounting Office is still pending but auditors on the project believe their concerns are being ignored. "We have an IG that blows our submittals off, a GAO whose scope is limited to avoid our issues," said Hodges. "Who is going to hold them accountable? There's nowhere for us to turn." Aron Pilhofer, Helen Sanderson and Dominic Vote contributed to this report. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] The Politics of Energy: Oil & Gas How a gusher of giveaways to oil and gas industry was crafted in Congress
n $34,780 so far. Oil and gas companies have been Domenici's second biggest campaign contributors for 2004, surpassed only by electric utilities. The industry has given the New Mexico Republican $179,308, according to CRP. In late November 2003, Domenici called together energy industry lobbyists on Capitol Hill to discuss the bill that they had helped craft and that he had helped shepherd through Congress. Sensing a final vote was near, the New Mexico Republican thanked the group for their efforts in constructing the legislation. He then left the room to a standing ovation. "[Lobbyists] all but held the pen since the days of the Cheney energy task force," said Walke. "They dictated the dirty, subsidized policies they wanted." Despite such criticisms, proponents of the bill are unapologetic. "Comprehensive energy legislation is difficult to pass under any circumstances," Segal, the Bracewell & Patterson partner, said. "The bill was more than a good faith effort at national energy policy." Although the energy bill has been derailed for now, lobbyists say they are ready to resume the fight next year. "I do think there will be a lot of interest in passing an energy bill next year," said Segal. "It is possible to pass energy legislation during an election year." Agustin Armendariz and Aron Pilhofer contributed to this report Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Fuel-Diesel-Petrol prices across Europe
To Andrew Lowe, Europe diesel fuel price: http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the pump for dino?
To Andrew Lowe & everyone, A jolly good idea on world diesel price. To start off: Malaysia RM0.78 sen per liter US$ 0.29 Singapore Sing$ 0.66 per literUS$ 0.55 For European diesel prices: www.see-searchengines/fuel/diesel/prices For USA: www.energyinstituition.org Ong BK ---Original Message--- From: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2004 01:03:38 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the pump for dino? Hi all, As Keith points out from time to time, there are members of these two lists situated all over the world. With this in mind, I was just wondering the other day what people around the world are paying for dinodiesel? So the next time you are filling up, if you haven't gone full bio yet, or driving down the road and pass a petrol station, take a note of the diesel price and let the list know. If there is enough response, I'll convert the info into a nice table in a couple of currencies and post it to the list. So in summary, if you reply, please indicate where you are, country, state/province, city/town, the units of measurement, litre/gallon, the price and the name of your currency. Regards, Andrew Lowe Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] What are you playing at the pump for dino?
Hi all, As Keith points out from time to time, there are members of these two lists situated all over the world. With this in mind, I was just wondering the other day what people around the world are paying for dinodiesel? So the next time you are filling up, if you haven't gone full bio yet, or driving down the road and pass a petrol station, take a note of the diesel price and let the list know. If there is enough response, I'll convert the info into a nice table in a couple of currencies and post it to the list. So in summary, if you reply, please indicate where you are, country, state/province, city/town, the units of measurement, litre/gallon, the price and the name of your currency. Regards, Andrew Lowe Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Diesel-Electric Hybrid Development Program For Air Force Refuelers
Volvo (Mack Truck Division or Subsidiary) and Enova and SWRI... http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040116/165102_1.html Press Release Source: Enova Systems Volvo's Mack Truck Chooses Enova for Hybrid Refueler Vehicle for U.S. Air Force Friday January 16, 6:00 am ET TORRANCE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 16, 2004--Enova Systems (OTCBB:ENVA - News), Torrance, a developer and manufacturer of electric, hybrid and fuel cell digital power management systems for military and commercial vehicle, transit, marine and stationary applications, announced today that it has received a contract from Mack Truck, Inc., Powertrain Division, a member of The Volvo Group (Nasdaq:VOLVY - News) of Sweden, for the development and fabrication of an advanced heavy-duty hybrid drive system, funded by the U.S. Air Force for its diesel-electric hybrid R11 refueler vehicle. The dual-use parallel hybrid drive system for the refueler is being developed in a joint effort between Mack and Enova for a program led by the Southwest Research Institute (SwRI). Enova will develop and manufacture the motor controller, electric motor and battery management systems for the new parallel hybrid drive system using Mack Trucks' MD11 diesel engine. The new parallel hybrid vehicle program is part of the Air Force's efforts to improve efficiency, reduce fuel and maintenance costs, provide re-generative brake energy and reduce emissions. The refueler fleet consists of approximately 300 vehicles, and upon successful completion and evaluation of the refueler vehicle, there is the potential for additional upgrades to the parallel hybrid drive system. As part of the program, Mack Trucks will also evaluate the applicability of the drive system to commercial vehicles, commencing with its Class 8 Refuse Hauler. Mack Trucks currently produces approximately 3,000 refuse vehicles per annum for major customers such as Waste Management. Enova's portion of the $1.2 million development program is valued at approximately $250,000, and has the potential for additional system sales for both military and commercial application following the evaluation phase. "These dual-use, commercial and military, development programs are significant to Enova's growth and development strategy," stated Carl D. Perry, president and CEO. "Enova is proud to be working with its new partners, Volvo, Mack Trucks and SwRI. We believe that this new heavy-duty parallel hybrid drive system for the Air Force will be applicable against a wide range of trucks and buses. Enova is well-suited for the future with both parallel and series hybrid heavy-duty drive systems for the global markets." "Enova Systems' technology is the ideal match for Mack Trucks' future hybrid drive system strategies," commented Guy Rini, Director Drive Line Products and Technology for Mack Trucks, Inc. "Our relationship with Enova continues to develop in these nascent heavy-duty hybrid sectors, and we believe our partnership will produce many cutting-edge solutions for these markets." Mack Trucks, Inc. is one of North America's largest producers of heavy-duty trucks, and MACK¨ vehicles are sold and serviced in more than 45 countries worldwide. Mack is a member of the Volvo Group, a publicly held company headquartered in Gothenburg, Sweden. With annual sales of approximately $20 billion, Volvo business areas include heavy trucks, buses, construction equipment, marine and industrial drive systems, aerospace, and financial services. In the United States, Volvo shares are listed on NASDAQ and are traded as ADRs (symbol: "VOLVY"). This news release contains forward-looking statements relating to Enova Systems and its products. These forward-looking statements are subject to and qualified by certain risks and uncertainties. Such statements do not imply the future success of the Company or its products. These risks and uncertainties and other risks are detailed from time to time in Enova Systems' periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission under the name Enova Systems, Inc., including but not limited to Enova's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2002. Enova assumes no duty to update these statements. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -----~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups
[biofuels-biz] Public Biodiesel Companies?
ignificant work with biodiesel and other >>biofuels? I'd like to look at investing in companies that are doing good >>biofuel work, but I haven't had much success finding information so far. >>Any leads? >> >>Thanks, >>Chris > >Looks like these guys are doing manure-to-elecricity, or so they >claim. POWR.OB on yahoo: > >http://www.environmentalpower.com/ > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Bush, Oil & Iraq: Some Truth at Last
peachment charges. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] To Avoid Fuel Limits, Subaru Is Turning a Sedan Into a Truck
e the regulatory system was put in place after the oil shocks of the 1970's, the industry has not only invented the minivan and greatly expanded the sport utility and pickup markets, but also started selling wagonlike "crossover" vehicles, like Chrysler's PT Cruiser, that blend cars and S.U.V.'s but are designed to meet the specifications of light trucks. There are different ways to make a car meet the federal definition of a light truck, including making the rear seats removable to give a wagon a flat loading floor or raising a vehicle's ground clearance to at least 20 centimeters, or a little less than 8 inches. Subaru will raise the Outback's height from a minimum of 7.3 inches to as much as 8.7 inches next year, and will make other adjustments, like altering the position of the rear bumper, to meet light truck specifications. Significantly raising the ride height can have a hazardous effect on a vehicle's stability. Part of the current Outback's appeal is that it performs better than S.U.V.'s on rollover tests. "I live in the northern suburbs of New York and I saw a lot of S.U.V.'s on their backs like turtles," said Ralph Schiavone, 46, a consultant who lives in Westchester County, N.Y., explaining why he bought an Outback. Tim Hurd, a spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, a branch of the Transportation Department, said a vehicle either met the specific technical requirements of being a light truck, or it did not. "They aren't a judgment call," he said. Added to the complexity of the system is the fact that tailpipe emissions of pollutants are overseen by the Environmental Protection Agency, which has classification rules that do not match those of the Transportation Department. The E.P.A., however, has said it will phase out the distinction between cars and trucks this decade. Congressional efforts to change fuel economy standards face entrenched opposition from some members of both political parties. But last month, the Bush administration proposed an overhaul of fuel regulations for light trucks and an altered definition to rein in classification problems. Environmental groups and consumer advocates have generally criticized the administration's proposals as potentially making a complicated system even more prone to manipulation, though they say aspects of the plan - in an early, undetailed form - could be beneficial. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Alaska Thaws, Complicating the Hunt for Oil
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[biofuels-biz] Biodiesel fuel could free Jakarta from pollution
Biodiesel fuel could free Jakarta from pollution Friday, January 09, 2004 Abdul Khalik, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta To reduce air pollution due to emissions from public buses and trucks that run on diesel fuel, the Jakarta administration plans to develop biodiesel fuel as an alternative to the fossil fuel burned in the diesel-fueled engines. "We have signed a memorandum of understanding with the Agency for the Assessment and Application of Technology (BPPT) to develop biodiesel for use in Jakarta," said head of the Jakarta Environmental Management Agency (BPLHD), Kosasih Wirahadikusumah, on Thursday on the sidelines of a biodiesel seminar. "We also plan to cooperate with Riau provincial administration as it has a biodiesel plant. We will ask Riau to provide the fuel for Jakarta." According to the official web site www.biodiesel.com, biodiesel is biodegradable, nontoxic and essentially free of sulfur and aromatics. It is a renewable resource, based on soybean and other oil crops that are grown each year. "We can find over 50 kinds of plants for biodiesel raw materials here in Indonesia. There is the potential to develop a commercial industry in this country," said one of the speakers, Tatang H. Soerawidjaja of the Indonesian Biodiesel Forum (FBI). He said that biodiesel fuel produced almost no sulfur, only 15 parts per million (ppm), in its emission and had more lubricant while the best fossil fuel Indonesia produced 500 ppm and the worst could even put out 3,000 ppm. "The world emission standard, Euro II, rules that vehicular emissions should be below 350 ppm," said Tatang. Another advantage is that biodiesel is compatible with the fossil diesel fuel and both can be mixed to lower the toxic exhaust emissions so there is no need to change the engine specifications. Tatang said it was not complicated to set up a biodiesel fuel factory and only required modest funds. "This factory can be handled by local technicians and will absorb a huge amount of manpower," he said. Another speaker, Soni Solistia Wirawan of BPPT, said there were three schemes in using biodiesel as an alternative fuel. "We can use 100 percent biodiesel as fuel, blend 5 percent to 30 percent biodiesel with fossil fuel, and use biodiesel as an additive," he said. BPLHD and PT Energy Alternatif Indonesia, a biodiesel supplier, made a joint experiment on 10 public buses in the capital. The result confirms that blending biodiesel with diesel fuel increases the bus engine performance and at the same time reduces toxic exhaust emissions. "We blended only 5 percent to 10 percent of biodiesel to the 10 buses for normal operation. We found that the blend reduces the emission opacity level by 60 percent, noise level by 5 percent to 6 percent and makes the bus more economical," said another speaker Bambang Tribudiman of PT energy Alternatif Indonesia. In the future, Jakarta will have a bigger pilot project for public buses to blend biodiesel with diesel fuel on a daily basis, Kosasih said. However, there are several obstacles to commercialize biodiesel because its raw materials are more costly than fossil diesel fuel. "The biodiesel costs up to Rp 5,000 (59 U.S. cents) per liter, depending on the raw materials used, higher than the subsidized diesel fuel price which is Rp 1,650. In Germany, biodiesel is only Rp 6,000 per liter compared to fossil diesel fuel which is Rp 8,000 per liter. They subsidize biodiesel instead," said Tatang. "The government must support the biodiesel project. Nothing has been done so far due to the strong lobbying from the oil and gas industry and many still question the benefit and feasibility of biodiesel. FBI will keep on trying to promote it," he added. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Coconut and Palm Kernel Oil STD antagonists.
Capric acid (C10:0) and monocaprin (capric monoglyceride) have been found to be sexually transmitted diseases antagonists. Coconut oil 4.5-to-9.7 % capric Palm kernel oil 3.0-to-7.0% capric Seminal papers: In Vitro Susceptibilities of Neisseria gonorrhoeae to Fatty Acids and Monoglycerides http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/43/11/2790 In Vitro Killing of Candida albicans by Fatty Acids and Monoglycerides http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/45/11/3209 Best regards, Ken PS Sanrego is an Indonesian herbal Viagra that can be used to further scientific research in this exciting area. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Fwd: New Resource: Building a Sustainable Business
s. SAN operates under Cooperative Agreement with CSREES to develop and disseminate information about sustainable agriculture. For more information about grant opportunities and other resources, visit www.sare.org. ### Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] EERE Network News -- 01/14/04
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Re: [biofuels-biz] End of US Biodiesel Research Program
DOE may be cutting the project because it is the wrong fit for Dr. Tyson's research (developing new feedstocks). Perhaps USDA will pick it up? KPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com 01/13/2004 08:45 cc: AM Subject: [biofuels-biz] End of US Biodiesel Research Program Please respond to biofuels-biz The top researcher from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Dr. Shaine Tyson, reports that the entire biodiesel research program has been terminated by the Bush administration. The staff for this research program has been notified of termination or transfer. Dr Tyson writes: DOE has canceled all biodiesel related research at this time.Ê I will be permanently laid off April 1, if not sooner.Ê I am also in the process of canceling contracts either before we award them or canceling them and pulling the money back to fund other salaries.Ê ...snip... In preparation for leaving NREL, my management has blessed all of our job hunting activities.Ê So I'll be lining up biodiesel consulting work under my own shingle to commence after April 1.Ê If you ever find yourself in need of my services, let me know.Ê My new contact info is below.Ê NREL has approved of us using our NREL phone and email until then to discuss new business if I can develop any, so don't hesitate to call if you need me. K. Shaine Tyson Biodiesel Feasibility and Consulting, Ltd. 3142 C.R. 115 Glenwood Springs, COÊ 81601 Phone:Ê 970-945-9148 - Homestead Inc. www.yellowbiodiesel.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] End of US Biodiesel Research Program
Dr. Tyson: Your situation is probably a "blessing in disguise". Those of us interested in developing commercial level biodiesel production probably would not have benefited much from future funding by the Feds. 1. The sciences is well known and widely distributed. 2. Technology transfer has been slow from government and universities to producers. 3. A small market exists for B100 and a growing market exists for B20. 4. There are not enough truly knowledgeable folks available to guide business startups in B100 production. 5. No resolution is in sight for the excessive cost of testing batches of B100 in accordance with ASTM D6751. 6. Except for Baker Commodies and a few others, there is no network of companies which collect waste vegetable oils from restaurants and commercial kitchens as feedstock for B100. These issues need more resolution and less research. For instance there is no really competent "cookbook" for the entire B100 process, including regulatory compliance, marketing and product testing. All of the home brew articles are lacking in complete scientific and economic foundations for commercial applications. The few commercial producers will not assist anyone else in understanding how to produce commercial quantities of quality B100. Your leaving the federal payroll is probably the best career move you could make. You need to produce a cookbook of exactly how a small commercial producer should proceed to produce commercial quantities of B100 and have it tested so as to meet D6751. You would sell the cookbook for $49.95 which in reality would be your entry point for employment as an independent consultant to the would-be producer. I would like to work with you in producing the cookbook and in setting up a small B100 production facility using WVO and animal fats. If you are interested, please give me an email. Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The top researcher from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Dr. Shaine Tyson, reports that the entire biodiesel research program has been terminated by the Bush administration. The staff for this research program has been notified of termination or transfer. Dr Tyson writes: DOE has canceled all biodiesel related research at this time. I will be permanently laid off April 1, if not sooner. I am also in the process of canceling contracts either before we award them or canceling them and pulling the money back to fund other salaries. ...snip... In preparation for leaving NREL, my management has blessed all of our job hunting activities. So I'll be lining up biodiesel consulting work under my own shingle to commence after April 1. If you ever find yourself in need of my services, let me know. My new contact info is below. NREL has approved of us using our NREL phone and email until then to discuss new business if I can develop any, so don't hesitate to call if you need me. K. Shaine Tyson Biodiesel Feasibility and Consulting, Ltd. 3142 C.R. 115 Glenwood Springs, CO 81601 Phone: 970-945-9148 - Homestead Inc. www.yellowbiodiesel.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] End of US Biodiesel Research Program
The top researcher from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Dr. Shaine Tyson, reports that the entire biodiesel research program has been terminated by the Bush administration. The staff for this research program has been notified of termination or transfer. Dr Tyson writes: DOE has canceled all biodiesel related research at this time.Ê I will be permanently laid off April 1, if not sooner.Ê I am also in the process of canceling contracts either before we award them or canceling them and pulling the money back to fund other salaries.Ê ...snip... In preparation for leaving NREL, my management has blessed all of our job hunting activities.Ê So I'll be lining up biodiesel consulting work under my own shingle to commence after April 1.Ê If you ever find yourself in need of my services, let me know.Ê My new contact info is below.Ê NREL has approved of us using our NREL phone and email until then to discuss new business if I can develop any, so don't hesitate to call if you need me. K. Shaine Tyson Biodiesel Feasibility and Consulting, Ltd. 3142 C.R. 115 Glenwood Springs, COÊ 81601 Phone:Ê 970-945-9148 - Homestead Inc. www.yellowbiodiesel.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] UK: Car Sales Power to New Record
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/23360/story.htm Car Sales Power to New Record UK: January 8, 2004 LONDON - New car sales in Britain set a new record of almost 2.6 million in 2003, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders says, but it warns that 2004 will be a tougher year for car makers. It said the new total, a rise of 0.6 percent from 2002's record figure, was driven by a strong economy, low interest rates and a host of new models but that rising interest rates this year would probably brake sales to around 2.5 million. Sales of diesel-engined cars continued to surge and have doubled since 2000, taking a record 27.3 percent of the new car market during 2003. The Ford Mondeo was the best-selling diesel car. Diesel's market share was nearly 31 percent in December alone, making it likely that the share will continue to climb in 2004, helped by the new generation of thrifty but fast direct-injection turbo diesel engines. Diesel's market share in the UK, however, is still a lot lower than many other European countries where diesel fuel is much cheaper, due to lower taxes, than in Britain, where it is slightly more expensive than petrol at around 78 pence a litre. Britons also have a growing penchant for smaller cars, which will please environmentalists. The class known as "superminis" -- which includes the Vauxhall Corsa and Ford Fiesta -- grew 5.1 percent last year to take a record market share of 34 percent. Story by Ashley Seager REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Top scientist attacks US over global warming
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,1119486,00.html Top scientist attacks US over global warming Paul Brown and Mark Oliver Friday January 9, 2004 The Guardian Climate change is a more serious threat to the world than terrorism, David King, the government's chief scientist, writes in an article in today's Science magazine, attacking governments for doing too little to combat global warming. He singles out the United States for "refusing to countenance any remedial action now or in the future" to curb its own greenhouse gases, which are 20% of the world's total, even though it has only 4% of the population. Disclosing that he had commissioned a team of scientists and engineers to find ways of reducing the severe damage the UK faces from climate change, he says the potential damage to property runs into "tens of billions of pounds per annum". Britain is doing its bit to reduce emissions, but acting alone is not enough, he says. "We and the rest of the world are now looking to the USA to play its leading part." As an example of what his team is discussing, he says Britain's coastal defences will be subject to attack from both increased sea-level rises and greater storm surges. "These combined efforts have the potential to increase risk of floods in 2080 by up to 30 times present levels. In the highest emission scenario, by 2080 flood levels that are now expected once in 100 years could be recurring every three years. People at high risk of flooding in Britain will double to nearly 3.5 million." If no work is done coastal erosion in Britain will increase nine-fold, he adds. Urging action to reduce carbon dioxide emissions at once Sir David comments: "Delaying action for decades, or even just years, is not a serious option. I am firmly convinced that if we do not stop now, more substantial, more disruptive, and more expensive change will be needed later on." He says the estimated cost of tackling climate change is around 1% of gross domestic product (GDP) for developed countries like the UK. This figure could be offset by the risks associated with doing nothing. For example, if just one flood broke through the Thames Barrier it would cost around £30bn in damage to London, roughly 2% of GDP. Taking action to combat climate change can create economic opportunities and improve living standards. A new round of negotiations is about to begin on how to tackle climate change beyond 2008-12, when the existing Kyoto agreement on reducing emissions is due to end. He urges the US and developing countries to get involved "in what is a truly global problem". In a swipe at the administration of President George Bush, Mr King says that the US was wrong to pull out of the Kyoto protocol. The Bush administration was also wrong to claim Kyoto could harm the US economy, he says: "In my view, climate change is the most severe problem we are facing today, more serious even than the threat of terrorism." As the only remaining superpower, the US is used to being in the vanguard of international coordination but he says its government is failing to face up to global warming. Mr King says the US strategy "relies largely on market-based incentives and voluntary action" but the "market cannot decide that mitigation is necessary, nor can it establish the international framework in which all the actors can take their place". There was only so much that countries like Britain could do in isolation, he says. "The United Kingdom is responsible for only 2% of the world's emissions," the Cambridge academic says. Yesterday a major study published in Nature magazine showed that climate change over the next 50 years is expected to drive a quarter of land animals and plants into extinction. Chris Thomas, professor of conservation biology at Leeds University, who was lead author of the research from four continents into the effect of higher temperatures, called the results "terrifying", estimating that more than 1 million species will be lost by 2050. Much of that loss - more than one in 10 of all plants and animals - is irreversible because of the extra global warming gases already discharged into the atmosphere. However the scientists who conducted the research believe action to curb greenhouse gases now could save others from the same fate. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Coal Mountain
ose the plant in 2005. This would cut the department's capacity by 158 megawatts, which is 10 percent of the plant's total 1,580-megawatt capacity. Seeing the writing on the wall, the department sold half its original 20 percent interest in the Mohave plant to the Salt River Project in 2000. It has since used the $95 million in proceeds to modernize major generating stations in the Los Angeles Basin, which operate on natural gas. The move will enable the plants to make more power without exceeding air pollution limits. However, environmental groups point out that more frequent operation of the plants will increase the actual pollution emitted from the facilities at a time when air quality shows signs of deteriorating in the Los Angeles region. Last year, the inland area downwind of the department's plants experienced its first stage one smog alert since 1998, forcing the local air district to tell residents to restrict their outdoor activities. Over the past two years, the number of days over the federal ozone standard in the Los Angeles area shot up from an all-time low of 36 in 2001 to 68 during the 2003 summer smog season. Meanwhile, state law requires the department to develop a renewable portfolio standard plan. In response, it plans some investments in wind, solar power, and other renewable facilities. However, even with those additional facilities, its total renewable energy generation capacity will amount to only 3 percent, or 220 megawatts out of a total of 7,000 megawatts. The department's laggard pace at developing renewable power has rankled some members of the Los Angeles City Council and state Legislature, which has buoyed the hopes of environmentalists that a breakthrough may be at hand in the next month or two. But the promise of cheap and abundant power for the nation's second biggest city and profits from wholesale power sales bode against any departmental rush to green power. Instead, the future is likely to involve burning sizable amounts of coal that release large amounts of carbon dioxide, acidic gases, and mercury, pollutants that are changing the climate, polluting the air, gradually contaminating the world's fish supply, and damaging human health. Coal, which supplies 50 percent of the department's power, sells for less than $24/ton, down from a peak price of $52 a ton in 1979. As long as the coal is mined and burned hundreds of miles from Southern California, Angelinos will not bear the environmental costs, at least not directly. Being able to escape those costs will likely make it irresistible for the Los Angeles City Council - which depends upon the department to transfer 7 percent of its power sales revenues to the city's general coffers each year - to pass up the opportunity to invest in the new coal plant, even as they give lip-service to a renewable future. William J. Kelly is a correspondent for Energy Circuit, where a version of this story originally appeared, at www.californiaenergycircuit.net. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM ---------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Combating the Natural Resource Curse with Citizen Revenue Distribution Funds: Oil and the Case of Iraq
This is from the PetroPolitics National Summit (January 6-8) sponsored jointly by Foreign Policy in Focus (www.fpif.org) and the Sustainable Energy and Economy Network (www.seen.org). See: http://www.fpif.org/progresp/volume8/v8n01.html Progressive Response Special Edition: Petropolitics http://www.fpif.org/papers/03petropol/index.html Foreign Policy In Focus-PetroPolitics Special Report: PetroPolitics Conference Report http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/31006/1/ - http://www.fpif.org/papers/ordf2003.html Foreign Policy In Focus Special Report: FPIF Special Report December 2003 Combating the Natural Resource Curse with Citizen Revenue Distribution Funds: Oil and the Case of Iraq By Thomas I. Palley Thomas I. Palley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is a frequent contributor to Foreign Policy in Focus (www.fpif.org). This paper is forthcoming in Challenge, March 2004. Thanks to M.E. Sharpe for permission to use the material. The views expressed in this paper are those of the author. [more] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Vegie Oil
Can I get information about the processes? We are interested in produce biodiesel from palm oil. - Original Message - From: obk To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Vegie Oil To Curtis Cheney, We in Malaysia can produce high quality palm diesel derived from Crude Palm Oil (CPO) and Refined Palm Oil (RBD). Problem is the high price of the CPO and RBD which is US$450 and US$476 per metric ton. However, the production method is simple and creates no wastage. Production rate is 1,000 liters to 5,000 liters per hour depending on availablity of input and size of tanks. If anyone can source used cooking oil (WVO) cheaply with at least 200,000 liters per month, please let me know. Please contact : [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further details. Ong BK ---Original Message--- From: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:42:39 AM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuels-biz] Vegie Oil Group, I've been looking into which SVO would be the best for high-end production uses. I've looked into the JTF site, but would like to gain the knowledge from somebody who has production experience in this matter. Which oil is the best for high quality bio-diesel. Which oil will be most benificial for production, ie a balence of cost, waste, and quality. A system of 1000L an hour will be production goals. Thank You, J. Curtis Cheney, VII Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Vegie Oil
To Curtis Cheney, We in Malaysia can produce high quality palm diesel derived from Crude Palm Oil (CPO) and Refined Palm Oil (RBD). Problem is the high price of the CPO and RBD which is US$450 and US$476 per metric ton. However, the production method is simple and creates no wastage. Production rate is 1,000 liters to 5,000 liters per hour depending on availablity of input and size of tanks. If anyone can source used cooking oil (WVO) cheaply with at least 200,000 liters per month, please let me know. Please contact : [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further details. Ong BK ---Original Message--- From: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:42:39 AM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuels-biz] Vegie Oil Group, I've been looking into which SVO would be the best for high-end production uses. I've looked into the JTF site, but would like to gain the knowledge from somebody who has production experience in this matter. Which oil is the best for high quality bio-diesel. Which oil will be most benificial for production, ie a balence of cost, waste, and quality. A system of 1000L an hour will be production goals. Thank You, J. Curtis Cheney, VII Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Bush Plans On Global Warming Alter Little
for nearly a decade. "And we're not averse to the publicity, if we can get a couple of nice statements about what we've done." Climate VISION, run by the Energy Department, holds out hope for a broader assault on global warming. It seeks to enlist participants from 12 industrial sectors and trade groups, which represent the vast majority of the nation's industrial greenhouse gas emitters. The commitments vary widely. The Semiconductor Industry Association had an agreement already in place to reduce emissions of perfluorocarbons, a greenhouse gas, and the American Iron and Steel Institute pledged to reduce greenhouse gas intensity by 10 percent by 2012. But the Business Roundtable, an association of chief executives of 150 of the country's biggest corporations, sought only to get its members to endorse the program. The Nuclear Energy Institute simply wants people to use more emission-free nuclear power, a controversial goal because of the unresolved problem of disposing of radioactive waste. In no case have the trade associations compelled participation, let alone compliance with industry-wide goals, although some groups have reported a strong response from their members. To date, no Climate VISION activity has led to a surge in corporate interest in Climate Leaders, but Xerox's Azar acknowledged that Business Roundtable seminars helped pique his company's interest. A Tougher Registry Meanwhile, the Energy Department has drawn up more stringent guidelines for the voluntary reporting of steps taken by private companies and other "entities" to reduce emissions. The registry, begun in 1994, gives companies a federal database in which they can "bank" their emissions-control accomplishments, should a national or international regulatory regimen take effect. The registry had 228 participants in 2001 and 2002, a modest number that could fall when the tougher guidelines kick in. "We envision a rigorous registry, accurate and reliable for the participants," Energy Undersecretary Robert G. Card said. "There could be an initial decline [in participation] before there's a gain. Our view is that industry is not necessarily going to be happy with the registry, [but] those who take it seriously will be." Finally, the 2002 farm bill added $17.1 billion to federal conservation programs over 10 years, and the Agriculture Department, for the first time, is including greenhouse gas mitigation as a criterion for granting incentive payments for such activities as planting hardwood trees and harvesting methane from livestock manure. "The approach we take in any individual program is going to be slightly different," said William Hohenstein, director of the Agriculture Department's global change program. "Considering greenhouse gases in how we set conservation priorities is a big step for us." Some administration critics give the USDA high marks for paying attention to global warming, but they note that the new money came not from the administration but from legislation passed by Congress. The critics contend that much of the funding was meant for clean-water programs that the White House simply endorsed and repackaged as greenhouse gas initiatives. "I don't want to begrudge the administration," said Ken Cook, president of the Environmental Working Group. "But what they're doing is misleading, because they're double-counting those dollars for different environmental purposes." © 2004 The Washington Post Company Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Ecology: Clouded futures
such losses (Fig. 2). Various biological changes in these mountains are associated with unusually dry weather attributed to an increase in heights of cloud formation6. Understanding amphibian extinctions is crucial, given that they are taking place in highlands around the world10, 11. For example, most of the 70-odd members of the harlequin frog genus Atelopus, endemic to Central and South America, have vanished or declined markedly (E. La Marca, personal communication). Figure 2 Absent amphibians. Full legend High resolution image and legend (48k) Nevertheless, few studies have examined how climatic changes might be linked to the immediate causes of these declines12, 13. The climate-envelope concept championed by Thomas et al. might help to shed light on one such cause - outbreaks of the chytrid fungus Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis14, 15. This lethal parasite of amphibian skin thrives under cool, moist conditions. In culture, it grows at 6-28 ¡C but dies at higher temperatures. Experiments with the Australian frog Litoria chloris16 show that elevated body temperatures, reached naturally by basking in the sun or seeking warm microenvironments, can rid the frogs of this fungus. The low humidity typical of warm microsites might likewise enhance frog survival. Both increased cloud cover and unusually dry weather might hamper these defences. In highland tropical forests, ambient air temperatures generally lie within the climate envelope of Batrachochytrium. But these forests include shaded and sunlit microhabitats. Under clear skies, temperatures in the latter can quickly exceed 30 ¡C, so an amphibian can 'escape' from this envelope. Under cloudy skies, however, microhabitat temperatures mirror ambient temperatures, making escape difficult. Dry conditions may have similar consequences: with limiting moisture, an amphibian might have to stay in cool, damp places. Although exploring these potential links between climate and recent extinctions is essential, the patterns implicating global warming in such losses attest to the urgency of Thomas and colleagues' principal recommendation3. Reducing the concentrations of greenhouse gases - and reducing them soon - could minimize this warming and hence the number of extinctions. The threat to life on Earth is not just a problem for the future. It is part of the here and now. References 1. Parmesan, C. & Yohe, G. Nature 421, 37-42 (2003). | Article | PubMed | ChemPort | 2. Root, T. L. et al. Nature 421, 57-60 (2003). | Article | PubMed | ISI | ChemPort | 3. Thomas, C. D. et al. Nature 427, 145-148 (2004). | Article | 4. Hubbell, S. P. The Unified Neutral Theory of Biodiversity and Biogeography (Princeton Univ. Press, 2001). 5. Williams, S. E., Bolitho, E. E. & Fox, S. Proc. R. Soc. Lond. B 270, 1887-1892 (2003). | Article | PubMed | ISI | 6. Pounds, J. A., Fogden, M. P. L. & Campbell, J. H. Nature 398, 611-615 (1999). | Article | ISI | ChemPort | 7. Still, C. J., Foster, P. N. & Schneider, S. H. Nature 398, 608-610 (1999). | Article | ISI | ChemPort | 8. Richardson, A. D., Denny, E. G., Siccama, T. G. & Lee, X. J. Clim. 16, 2093-2098 (2003). | Article | ISI | 9. Houghton, J. T. et al. Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis (Cambridge Univ. Press, 2001). 10. Alford, R. A. & Richards, S. J. Annu. Rev. Ecol. Syst. 30, 133-165 (1999). | Article | ISI | 11. Ron, S. R., Duellman, W. E., Coloma, L. A. & Bustamante, M. R. J. Herpetol. 37, 116-126 (2003). | ISI | 12. Kiesecker, J. M., Blaustein, A. R. & Belden, L. K. Nature 410, 81-84 (2001). | Article | PubMed | ISI | ChemPort | 13. Pounds, J. A. Nature 410, 639-640 (2001). | Article | PubMed | ISI | ChemPort | 14. Berger, L. et al. Proc. Natl Acad. Sci. USA 95, 9031-9036 (1998). | Article | PubMed | ChemPort | 15. Burrowes, P. A., Joglar, R. L. & Greene, D. E. Herpetologica (in the press). 16. Woodhams, D. C., Alford, R. A. & Marantelli, G. Dis. Aquat. Org. 55, 65-67 (2003). | PubMed | ISI | Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Death Warmed Over
endent notes that the global warming currently occurring might be more usefully compared with other natural disasters that have caused mass extinction, rather than with other periods of climate change: "Five times in the past half-billion years, the fossil record shows us, living things have been wiped out over much of the earth. Catastrophic changes in climate, or the impact of an asteroid or a comet, are the likeliest causes for the five great extinctions which geologists and palaeobiologists have identified, ranging from the Ordovician-Silurian extinction, of about 439 million years ago, to the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction of 65 million years ago, when the dinosaurs disappeared. And it is not an asteroid that will have caused this, of course: it is us. The Sixth Great Extinction will be an entirely human achievement. To our widespread destruction of forests and other natural habitats, we are now adding the effect on the atmosphere of two centuries of burning coal, gas and oil on an ever-increasing scale." Yet another reason, say many, to reduce fossil fuel emissions, spur conservation and invest in renewable energy sources. The Guardian says this: "The only conservation response to climate change that makes any sense is to minimise the amount of warming that takes place. ... Our estimates are only up to the year 2050, and most climate projections suggest that as much climate warming will take place between 2050 and 2100 as between now and 2050. These new climates are likely to make Earth hotter than it has been for 10m years. At that time, the bulk of species that now inhabit Earth had not evolved, and none of the currently observed biological communities (combinations of species) existed. Serious conservation action means converting to progressively cleaner technologies rapidly and widely, and adhering to and tightening up international agreements. ... Some species will actually be extinct by 2050, but probably most of the climate-threatened species will simply be in decline leading to their eventual extinction over the following decades. Reversing warming quickly may allow some, and possibly many, of these threatened species to hang on for long enough, until the climate improves for them again." Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Revisiting ADM's Corn Gluten Feed Scandal Raises "Mad Cow" Disease Feed Questions
ffects and intentionally sold it to enhance profits. The affidavit also repeated the charge concerning ADM's spraying biomass residues on its corn glutten feed. Knowing that these charges would constitute serious fraud if proven the plaintiff's lawyers were prepared to depose CEO Andreas, his son Michael and James Randall, who was the company's president. In ADM's lysine price fixing case the government granted immunity to both Dwayne Andreas and Randall. In the Missouri suit ADM, however, decided to avoid such a confrontation and settled out of court, offering the plaintiff $105,000 --- roughly double the amount initially requested. Interestingly in the preparing of the Missouri case ADM called upon experts from the nearby University of Illinois to challenge the plaintiffs veterinarians who had treated the dying animals. As Hollis points out, ADM over the years had funneled millions of dollars in grants to the university's College of Agriculture. "Truth can be difficult to tease out strand by strand in these cases," Hollis adds, "but ADM's credibility plunged when its top nutritionist `Dr.' Gerrald Weigel , lied about his academic credentials under oath --- he had no Ph. D." Oklahoma State University toxicologist Dr. Sandra Morgan has noted concern for gossypol as a potential sterility agent in an article which also states "there is concern for the effects of gossypol on humans because gossypol is a biologically active compound and because gossypol in the food chain may ultimately lead to its consumption by humans." "If we are to regain confidence in the overwhelming majority of our food companies and their honest suppliers," Hollis adds, "isn't it time we stop ignoring the lessons of Moberly v. ADM and get the truth out about the Supermarkup to the World?" Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Commentary: How Now Mad Cow !!!
emical residues, salmonella, added substances and advance disease symptoms." Lehman was particularly highly critical of inspection procedures resulting from the U.S.-Canada Free Trade Agreement which was approved in 1989. "Suddenly, Canadian meat imports became almost exempt from inspections," he recalled. Shortly after the children's deaths and sickness from e-coli tainted hamburger in the Pacific Northwest Lehman testified before a Congressional Committee and detailed a typical inspection under the infamous "rear-door rule." "I merely walk to the back of the truck. That's all I'm allowed to do. Whether there's boxed meat or carcasses in the truck, I can't touch the boxes. I can't open the boxes. I can't use a flashlight. I can't walk into the truck. I can only look at what is visible in the back of the trailer." He also recounted during an interview while he as on the job that two trucks had just passed through the Sweetgrass facility and that he had inspected them both within 45 seconds. "I've just inspected over 80,000 pounds of meat (boxed beef rounds and boxed boneless beef briskets) on two trucks. I wasn't running or hurrying either. One was bound for Sante Fe Springs, California, the other for San Jose, California. I just stamped on their paperwork `USDA Inspected and Passed' in 45 seconds." Because of his outspokenness Lehman was ordered to transfer to another location, retire or be terminated from his job as a meat inspector. He subsequently retired after 30 years of service in the USDA, in early 1997, stating he was "just tired of the whole thing." Bill Lehman, 60, died of a severe heart condition March 2, 1998 at a Shelby, Montana care center. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Trash: Florida's next source of energy?
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/business/7649015.htm Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel or bust
Thats alright Hakan, and yes thanks, I got the harvest finished. Best regards Steven Hakan Falk wrote: >Steven, > >I do not think so, because they are a part of the natural cycle. But I am >in trouble and seems to be out of any natural loop, to write US, when I now >where you live and when the article clearly state Australia. But I am doing >many mistakes nowadays and it looks as if I lost half the brain with half >the sight. LOL > >I hope you get your harvest in properly. > >Hakan > > >At 12:54 07/01/2004, you wrote: > > >>Well Hakan, I think even the horses would be in troublethey emit >>greenhouse gas too you know!! >>Steven >> >>Hakan Falk wrote: >> >> >> >>>Sorry, I got it wrong. It should be Australia. I am so used about all the >>>US problems, >>>that the fingers think by themselves. >>> >>>Hakan >>> >>> > > > >Biofuels at Journey to Forever >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >. > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Fwd: USDA Open Public Meeting on Biobased Products
Fwd: >Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:02:26 -0500 >Subject: USDA Open Public Meeting on Biobased Products >From: Jon Harsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 9 NUC Notice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > 10 NUC Notice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > 11 NUC Notice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > 12 NUC Notice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >You are invited to: USDA Open Public Meeting on Biobased Products > >Constituent Alert-Public Meeting on Proposed Rule to Implement >Preferred Procurement of Biobased Products > >Who: Senior USDA Officials > >What: Public Meeting on Proposed Rule to Implement Preferred >Procurement of Biobased Products. > >Where: Jefferson Auditorium, U.S. Department of Agriculture > 1400 Independence Ave. S.W., Washington D.C. > >When: Thursday, January 29, 2004, from 9:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. > >Agenda: 9:00 to 9:15 a.m. -- Opening remarks by Senior Official > > 9:15 to 9:30 -- Discussion of proposed rule by Keith >Collins, Chief Economist > >Panel:9:30 to 11:45 a.m. Panel to answer questions on the >proposed rule. > >Panel participants include: > Roger K. Conway, Office of Energy Policy and New Uses, USDA. > Marvin Duncan, Office of Energy Policy and New Uses, USDA. > Daniel Hylton, Office of the General Counsel, USDA. > Carmela Bailey, Cooperative State Research, Education, and >Extension Service, USDA. > Glenn Haggstrom, Department Administration, USDA. > Cynthia Vallina, Office of Management and Budget >. >Lunch on your own: Noon to 1:00 p.m. > >Public Comment: 1:15 to 4:30 p.m. > A printed copy of all comments offered on the proposed rule, >including identification and contact information for the commenter, >must be provided to USDA at the time comments are offered. Oral >presentation of public comments will be limited to no more than 15 >minutes per comment. There will be no page limit on the written >comments. > >Please contact Marvin Duncan at the Office of Energy Policy and New >Uses at USDA to schedule your oral presentation of public comments. > He can be reached by telephone at 202-401-0532 and by e-mail at >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where written comments only are to be presented, >it is not necessary to schedule the introduction of those comments >into the record in advance of the stakeholder meeting. > >This event will be video web streamed in real time, enabling a >national town meeting on the proposed rule. That web streaming is >available through a hot link at the Current Issues Box on the home >page of www.biobased.oce.usda.gov. Viewers can also access a copy >of the proposed rule and file written comments using this web site. > >The video web streaming for this event can also be accessed through >the USDA Home Page at www.usda.gov on January 29. > >During the meeting, members of the public can fax questions about >the proposed rule, or make public comments on the proposed rule to >this fax number: 202-720-9553. Members of the public can also >e-mail questions or public comments during the meeting to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] (fwd) David Morris, Inst Local Self-Reliance, promotes plug-in hybrid
;sugar economy. Ethanol is made from sugars. In the United States, corn is >the primary source of the sugars. In Brazil sugar comes from sugar cane, in >Europe from wheat. Soon the sugars will be extracted from astonishingly >abundant cellulosic materials like corn stalks, wheat straw, grasses and >urban organic wastes. > >Thanks to previous public policy, Minnesota boasts some 14 biorefineries. >The majority are owned by farmers. To displace 85 percent of our imported >petroleum we would need to triple or quadruple this number, in the process >creating hundreds of new jobs and injecting hundreds of millions of dollars >into rural economies. > >Sugar-derived fuels compare favorably with hydrogen fuels. Ethanol is half >the cost of hydrogen, without subsidies. Converting a gas station to an >ethanol station costs 1 to 10 percent the cost of converting it to >hydrogen. Minnesota already boasts 90 of the E85 (85 percent ethanol) pumps. > >To modify a car to run on either ethanol or gasoline costs only $150. More >than 3 million flexible-fueled cars already are on the road. To substitute >a fuel cell for an internal combustion engine costs tens of thousands of >dollars. > >The hydrogen economy is an alluring vision. But we would be better served >by looking in our backyards and to our own resources to wean ourselves off >of imported oil. > >David Morris is vice president of the Minneapolis-based Institute for Local >Self-Reliance. >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Felix Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Founder California Cars Initiative >http://www.calcars.org > cell 650.520. voice 650.599.9992 >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evworld/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Fwd: Feedstock Roadmap Released
of sustainable harvest for the >biorefinery is to maximize the amount of residue that can be removed >for use as biorefinery feedstocks while adhering to sustainability >guidelines. > >Storage - A biorefinery must process as much as one million tons of >lignocellulosic biomass annually and may need to have an inventory >of at least half that much. This is not possible with current >production technologies and methods. Improvements are needed in the >areas of feedstock quality and monitoring, dry storage systems, and >wet storage systems. Specifically, the Feedstock Roadmap identifies >priorities such as developing valuation parameters for biorefinery >feedstocks as a commodity or based on fermentable carbohydrates, and >developing analytical tools and sensors for real-time compositional >analysis. > >Preprocessing - Preprocessing treatments improve biomass handling, >transport, and storability. Preprocessing can also add value by >making biomass more fit for final conversion to fuels, power, and >chemicals. Technical barriers such as low bulk density, >combustibility, and variability in physical and chemical >characteristics among others impede the ability to deliver >high-quality, low-cost biomass to biorefineries. The industry must >research preprocessing technologies/methods that will increase the >understanding and control over biomass material properties, alter >the physical state of the processed biomass to provide for optimal >use in handling, storage, and use for fuels and chemicals, and >improve methods of biomass bulk material handling. > >System Integration - To meet the needs of the biorefinery, an >integrated feedstock supply system must be developed. The Feedstock >Roadmap provides a model for such a system, identifies near-term >technology development needs in areas such as harvesting, and >describes modeling and simulation tools that will be required to >better optimize an integrated, low-cost biomass supply system. It >also describes regulatory and market issues that will need to be >addressed to enable effective systems integration, such as >competition for land and biomass resources. > >The contributors to the Feedstock Roadmap recognized the importance >of transportation as a key segment of the biomass feedstock supply >system but also recognized the fact that the biomass industries will >be constrained to the existing transportation network and cannot >significantly alter transportation technologies or modes. The >industry must take advantage of and optimize the use of the >diversity of existing transportation options that might be locally >available. > >The Roadmap for Agriculture Biomass Feedstock Supply in the United >States outlines specific strategies to help reduce the cost and >increase the availability of biomass feedstocks. It represents a >next step -- the level of detail necessary -- to achieving the goals >and implementing the R&D strategies established by the Biomass R&D >Technical Advisory Committee in their Vision and subsequent Roadmap. > >Roadmap for Agriculture Biomass Feedstock Supply: >http://www.bioproducts-bioenergy.gov/pdf/Ag_Roadmap.pdf > >Vision for Bioenergy & Biobased Products in the United States: >http://www.bioproducts-bioenergy.gov/pdfs/BioVision_03_Web.pdf > >This article and more can be found at: >http://216.169.154.57/bio/newsletters/Dec_2003/ > > > - >-- > If you no longer wish to receive our newsletter >please go to http://www.fuelandfiber.com to unsubscribe. > > - >-- >. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Local farmers told to use natural pesticides
making pesticide from nimba seeds, he blends 500 >grams of seeds in 400liters of water. This pesticide >is sufficient to spray up to 4,000 square meters of >vegetable fields. > >In order to get rid off grasshoppers, Trimo uses >pesticides made from themindi plant. To produce this >pesticide, he mixes 0.25 kg of powdered mindi seed >with five to seven liters of water and then adds two >spoonfull's of detergent and a spoonful of gasoline. > >Biological pesticide produced from the tobacco plant >is extremely effective in killing bugs and harmful >organisms in paddy fields. For this kind of pesticide, >the farmer needs about 150 to 300 kg of tobacco stalks >and then mixes them with limestone powder and water to >spray one hectare of rice fields. > >For Edhi, the crisis is a blessing in disguise >allowing him to promote the use of biological >pesticides. Two years after the crisis started, such >pesticides have aroused great interest among farmers. > >"I realize that not all Indonesian farmers are aware >of the effectiveness of biological pesticides yet. >But, it does not matter. We will need to undertake a >long campaign to popularize it and we don't expect to >get quick results in the short-term," Edhi said >realistically > >Based on his observations, he found that farmers had >previously been spraying more chemical pesticides than >they needed to. > >"They usually raise the dosage of chemical pesticides >in order to guarantee a good harvest. They never think >of their side-effects and don't know how hazardous >these products are," Edhi said. > >The use of biological pesticide is safer and >healthier. For instance, it is also effective in >killing the bugs and insects that threaten watermelon >crops. And the pesticide will make consumers happy as >it leave no pesticide residue in the watermelons. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Vegie Oil
Group, I've been looking into which SVO would be the best for high-end production uses. I've looked into the JTF site, but would like to gain the knowledge from somebody who has production experience in this matter. Which oil is the best for high quality bio-diesel. Which oil will be most benificial for production, ie a balence of cost, waste, and quality. A system of 1000L an hour will be production goals. Thank You, J. Curtis Cheney, VII Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Petro Politics
heet: Subsidy Shift Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Local farmers told to use natural pesticides
-effects and don't know how hazardous these products are," Edhi said. The use of biological pesticide is safer and healthier. For instance, it is also effective in killing the bugs and insects that threaten watermelon crops. And the pesticide will make consumers happy as it leave no pesticide residue in the watermelons. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel or bust
Steven, I do not think so, because they are a part of the natural cycle. But I am in trouble and seems to be out of any natural loop, to write US, when I now where you live and when the article clearly state Australia. But I am doing many mistakes nowadays and it looks as if I lost half the brain with half the sight. LOL I hope you get your harvest in properly. Hakan At 12:54 07/01/2004, you wrote: >Well Hakan, I think even the horses would be in troublethey emit >greenhouse gas too you know!! >Steven > >Hakan Falk wrote: > > >Sorry, I got it wrong. It should be Australia. I am so used about all the > >US problems, > >that the fingers think by themselves. > > > >Hakan Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel or bust
Well Hakan, I think even the horses would be in troublethey emit greenhouse gas too you know!! Steven Hakan Falk wrote: >Sorry, I got it wrong. It should be Australia. I am so used about all the >US problems, >that the fingers think by themselves. > >Hakan > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] EERE Network News -- 01/07/04
essReleases.htm>, and <http://www.conocophillips.com/news/nr/122103_lng.asp>. See also the Crown Landing and Fairwinds Web sites at: <http://www.bpcrownlanding.com/> and <http://www.fairwindslng.com/>. Need to learn more about LNG? Visit the new LNG Web site, provided by the California Energy Commission, at: <http://www.energy.ca.gov/lng/>. -- ABOUT THIS NEWSLETTER -- You can subscribe to this newsletter using the online form at: <http://www.eere.energy.gov/news/about.cfm>. This Web page also allows you to update your email address or unsubscribe to this newsletter. The Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE) home page is located at: <http://www.eere.energy.gov/>. If you have questions or comments about this newsletter, please contact the editor, Kevin Eber, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] ADM/Volkswagen
http://www.autofan.com/newsdetail.asp?id=1063&mn=1&yr=2004 What will the corporate vanity plates on the inevitable Colorful Beetles read? ADMVW ;-) Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Bio-derived Packaging?
Does anyone have any views or information they want to share on bio packaging? The term in use seems to be "biodegradable packaging". Is it helpful in funneling one's household products into biofuel production? Other pros or cons? I've tried to do a little initial research and am chagrined how long it tooke me to realize the importance of this topic, but anyway, a few initial hits: http://www.biocorpna.com/ I disagreed with this study off-hand, but it seemed on-topic: http://www.iema.net/article.php?sid=2903 "Biodegradable plastics"? Does that mean it's a fossil-fuel-derived plastic, or a bio-derived plastic-like product? http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=1968 Then there is "loose fill", the stuff you put in a box to cushion a product when you pacakage it. This is not what I meant by "packaging" (I meant anything at all that comes with a product when you buy it), but it happens that bio-derived loose fill was recently mentioned to me as a product by someone who ships a lot. Example: http://www.naturpack.com/company.htm Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: Bacteria that decompose oil found
R, West Java (JP): Researchers of the Bogor >>Institute of Agriculture (IPB) have discovered five >>species of bacteria that they say are capable >>ofdecomposing fossil oil. >> >>The discovery raises hopes for combating the pollution >>caused by oilspills. >> >>The bacteria consist of five species that the >>researchers have selected from hundreds of species >>living in the peatland of Central Kalimantan, an >>environment they call a "black water" ecosystem. >> >>They identify the five bacteria as Pseudomonas >>stutzeri, Pseudomonas diminuta, Bacillus >>panthotenticus, Bacillus circulans and Klebsiella >>edwardsii. >> >>Reports of the discovery were mentioned in the October >>1999 issue of Jurnal Ilmu Tanah dan Lingkungan >>(Journal of Science on Soil and Environment) published >>by IPB. >> >>Dr. Iswandi Anas, head of the Soil Biology Laboratory >>at the institute, says research has been conducted >>since 1996, coinciding with the implementation of the >>one million peat farm project in Central Kalimantan. >> >>The research was done out of growing concern for the >>many cases of environmental pollution caused by >>oilspills. >> >>"If crude oil spills out of a tanker, it will >>invariably pollute the sea and coastline and cause a >>lot of damage to the environment," he said. >> >>He also said that oilspills happen on land as well, >>due to the leakage ofpipelines, oil storage and >>accidents involving trucks carrying oil. >> >>Crude oil, according to Iswandi Anas, contains a large >>quantity of phenol. The phenol compound is also found >>on peatland, especially in the black water ecosystem. >> >>The ecosystem's name is derived from the color of >>water found in the peatland. >> >>The ecosystem, he said, is unique. The phenol content >>is high. The compound is toxic and easily dissolves in >>water. "Organisms usually cannot live in an >>environment with a high phenol content. But there are >>organisms which can adapt themselves well and which >>even use phenol as their main source of energy," said >>Iswandi. >> >>Apart from the high phenol content, he said, the acid >>level (pH) of the water on the peatland was low, about >>three. The effect of this is that onlya limited number >>of organisms can live in the area. >> >>"Organisms generally live at about 5-7 pH," he said. >> >>The black water ecosystem is rare in our world. In >>Indonesia, it is foundonly in Central Kalimantan, Musi >>Banyuasin in South Sumatra and Jambi. >> >>"Because the ecosystem is rare, the organisms in it >>are often unique," hesaid. >> >>Soil samples of the ecosystem were taken to find out >>what types of microorganisms could adapt themselves. >> >>"We found hundreds of bacteria species in the soil >>samples," he said. "The bacteria species were >>separated and then cultured." >> >>The selected bacteria were tested in soil mixed with >>crude oil and soil mixed with diesel oil. The >>microorganisms were able to decompose 48 percentof the >>crude oil and 64 percent of the diesel oil within 21 >>days. >> >>"These results illustrate that the bacteria not only >>degrades phenol but natural oil, too. The other >>compounds of natural oil were also degraded," he said. >> >> >>Mohamad Sri Saeni, an IPB environmental chemistry >>expert, says that following up of the discovery is >>urgent considering the frequent incidents of >>oilspills. >> >>"People living in industrial areas and near oil >>storage facilities are particularly at risk," he says. >> >> >>A recent survey in East Jakarta of industrial areas >>found that wells are often contaminated by oil waste. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] ERoEI for grease based biodiesel
The question has been raised as to the value of making biodiesel from waste vegetable oil resources in terms of the net energy gain. I had posted on this topic a few days ago, but feel a more considered study was in order. This research is based on the following published study: RESOURCES RESEARCH UNIT SCHOOL OF ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SHEFFIELD HALLAM UNIVERSITY EVALUATION OF THE COMPARATIVE ENERGY, GLOBAL WARMING AND SOCIO-ECONOMIC COSTS AND BENEFITS OF BIODIESEL Final Report for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Contract Reference No. CSA 5982/NF0422 Report No. 20/1 by N. D. Mortimer, P. Cormack, M. A. Elsayed and R. E. Horne January 2003 available from: http://www.defra.gov.uk/farm/acu/research/reports/nf0422.pdf This study goes through all stages of developing biodiesel, energy inputs and environmental benefits. The study does not specifically address waste resource utilization, but can be used as a methodology guide. For yellow grease (waste) based biodiesel, one should ignore the energy cost of fertilizer, cultivation, harvest, drying, solvent extraction and product distribution. The energy inputs that are appropriate are for waste oil collection, esterification, storage, plant construction, maintenance and biodiesel distribution. Using these values, one can calculate an Energy Return on Energy Investment (ERoEI) of 5.26 times. This number would be significantly higher if transportation and heating costs were also based on biodiesel fuel. I also believe the values given for esterification are too high, and when adjusted will further increase the ERoEI. However, as a working number, this gives a steady value that is conservatively realistic. Compare this number with the equivalent liquid fuel of low sulfur diesel fuel with an ERoEI of 0.82 or an ultra low sulfur fuel value of 0.79. There are also equivalent benefits in terms of CO2 greenhouse gas emissions and toxicity, etc. This information should be used when decisions about project development are made. Tom Leue - Homestead Inc. www.yellowbiodiesel.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: Bacteria that decompose oil found
Bacteria that can clean up all sorts of nasty stuff is old news. A guy I used to carpool with went to work for a company called Ecova 18 years ago to become a "bug trainer". Basically, they go to the site of any environmental mess, and they would dig up soil from the area. In all likelyhood, there would be a bacteria eating the nasty stuff, and they would take the sample back to the lab, isolate the desired bacteria, multiply it, and release it back at the site of the mess. The key is to stop the infiltration of the contaminant, and prevent what is there from entering groundwater. Sometimes the soil has to be piled up on an impervious surface (pavement or a plastic barrier) before it can be treated. __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re-insurer counts cost of global warming
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1018055.htm . 30/12/2003. ABC News Online Tuesday, December 30, 2003. 1:19pm (AEDT) Re-insurer counts cost of global warming The world's biggest re-insurance company, Munich Re, has attributed a sharp increase in weather-related disasters around the world to global warming. In its latest annual report, the company - which insures insurance companies - puts the combined cost of this year's global natural disasters at close to $80 billion. The report says the natural disasters have also claimed at least 50,000 lives worldwide. A senior research analyst for Australia's AMP capital sustainable funds team, Ian Woods, says the insurance industry is recognising the impact of global warming. "I think Munich Re, like other re-insurance companies, are really starting to realise the extra costs of global warming on the insurance industry due to natural disasters such as floods, hurricanes, hailstorms and drought," Mr Woods said. Mr Woods has analysed the methodology Munich Re used to reach its conclusions about the dangers of global warming and he says it is well founded. "Munich Re have done some really interesting studies on this particular issue and looked at the occurrence of major natural disasters over the years and they've seen the frequency of these disasters increasing over the last couple of years and they said it's strictly related to climate change," he said. If Munich Re is correct, the world can expect a sharp increase in insurance costs and the toll of human misery unless governments and industry take steps to reduce reliance on fossil fuels. That is a view contested by some scientists and companies in the mining and resources sector. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] The Cow Jumped Over the U.S.D.A.
impose a far higher price, both in dollars and in human suffering. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] The Troubled Marriage of Environmentalists and Oil Companies
http://kwsnet.com/weblog/2003/12/25.html#a1319 The Troubled Marriage of Environmentalists and Oil Companies CorpWatch by Carmelo Ruiz-Marrero 22 Dec 03 The American environmental group Conservation International (CI) and other environmental organizations are actively collaborating with oil corporations in hopes of ameliorating the impact of their activities on local ecosystems. But observers fear that the cozy relationship that these groups have with the U.S. government and oil companies raises serious questions regarding their independence and warn that it can undermine the grassroots work of popular movements and native peoples that aim to stop new oil drilling altogether. They also hold that it raises some serious issues regarding national sovereignty in the Global South. Puerto Rican biologist Jorge Fernndez-Porto, who has worked in Guatemala's Petn rainforest where CI manages the biosphere reserve, says that the marriage between environmental groups and oil companies "will only give birth to mutant offspring. In the meantime, diversity and natural systems will be devastated, with the latter enriching themselves and the former picking up crumbs." But groups like CI dispute these claims, stating that such alliances allow for leverage that environmentalist groups would otherwise not have. "We believe it is crucial to engage oil and gas companies and work with them to avoid, mitigate and compensate impacts on biodiversity in these areas," CI media relations director Jim Wyss told CorpWatch. "If left to operate in a vacuum, there is little hope to encourage these companies to take the necessary steps to fundamentally change how they operate." CI, the Nature Conservancy, the Smithsonian Institution and the International Union for the Conservation of Nature are partners with oil companies Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco in the Energy and Biodiversity Initiative (EBI). The EBI bills itself as: "a partnership designed to produce practical guidelines, tools and models to improve the environmental performance of energy operations, minimize harm to biodiversity, and maximize opportunities for conservation wherever oil and gas resources are developed." EBI works closely with the Biodiversity Working Group, an entity established by the International Petroleum Industry Environmental Conservation Association and the International Association of Oil and Gas Producers. It was selected by the International Chamber of Commerce and the United Nations Environment Program as one of the winners of the 2002 World Summit Business Awards for Sustainable Development Partnerships in the Johannesburg Earth Summit. To some environmentalists, this collaboration is simply outrageous and unacceptable, especially when considering that one of the companies involved is Chevron Texaco, currently on trial in Ecuador for its environmental crimes. The EBI "will result in enormous impacts regarding biodiversity conservation, paving the way to environmental impunity and weakening the efforts carried out by local and national organizations to make these companies take full responsibility over the impacts they have already caused", said OilWatch, an international environmental network, in an open letter in October 2003. In the letter, addressed to the environmental groups in the EBI, OilWatch states that the measures proposed by the Initiative have already been tried unsuccessfully, have weakened conservation legislation and have also resulted in abuses to the sovereignty of the countries involved. Every time they are proposed they "are then not applied, are not mandatory and have no relation whatsoever with the real environmental behavior of companies. No commitment is made in relation to protected areas or biodiversity." [Also see Conservation at All Costs: How Industry-Backed Environmentalism Creates Violent Conflict Among Indigenous Peoples by Shefa Siegel (CorpWatch, 22 Dec 03).] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Conservation at All Costs - How Industry-Backed Environmentalism Creates Violent Conflict Among Indigenous Peoples
ingly wary of large-scale conservation projects. More than once in Guyana, this has led indigenous groups to invoke human rights instruments to stall conservation projects and demand the settlement of land claims alongside the conservation process. The capacity indigenous groups have to throw a wedge in conservation projects concerns CI officials who are determined to keep conservation investment flowing into the country. "Conservation without resources is just conversation," says Clayton Hall, Director of CI-Guyana, rehearsing a favorite theme. Having watched Amerindians oppose the World Bank's conservation effort in Guyana in the late 1990s over human rights violations, a campaign which led the Bank to withdraw temporarily, Hall is adamant that land claims will not obstruct conservation progress this time. Walking to a map plastered on the wall next to a shelf filled with Amerindian crafts, Hall points to the Parabara Watershed and the overlapping Wai Wai-Wapishana land claims. A menacing tone enters his speech: "There is no anthropological evidence of any Wapishanas using this area," he declares. "This area belongs to the Taruma, who still live in the jungle uncontacted. We are protecting it for them because they cannot handle European diseases." Glaring, he almost shouts, "If the Wapishanas want to agitate, they will get nothing." In his recent book "The Future of Life", CI board-member and intellectual figurehead, E.O. Wilson, praises the tireless altruism of conservation NGOs for trying, unlike corporations, "to steer clear of local government policy and political ideology. Their focus stays on their one driving reason for existence: the protection of biological diversity." But Hall's insertion of the Taruma as a wildcard is hard to square: The last members of the Taruma tribe died more than 50 years ago, and rumors of uncontacted tribes living in southern Guyana are unsubstantiated, even laughed at by experts. Despite its absurdity, the position appears deliberately ideological, aimed at rejecting the legitimacy of one tribe's land claim for the protection of a tribe that no longer even exists. If Conservation has arrived at a position of power, it has in the process misplaced a deeper commitment to human rights and well-being, and forfeited the environmental movement's enduring challenge of restoring a deeper ecological freedom where human communities cohabitate with the natural world. Igniting intertribal conflict is a distressing byproduct of pursuing conservation at any cost: peace is not an acceptable price to pay for preservation. Shefa Siegel is a freelance environmental writer who has worked with indigenous groups in Guyana and British Columbia. CorpWatch 1611 Telegraph Avenue., #702 Oakland, CA 94612 USA Tel: 510-271-8080 URL: http://www.corpwatch.org Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Happy New Years: And Be Careful What You Eat
e the results of its BSE tests were completed and announced to the public. That's how our mechanized, inhuman, corporate, non-regulated food supply system works. It doesn't have to work that way. The most obvious way to make our food supply safer would be to support family farms over corporate farms and to move away from reliance on processed food. But our government provides subsidies that benefit corporate farms more than family farms. And so BSE, listeria, and killer e coli are just the price we pay so we can have 99-cent hamburgers at the local fast food joint and an overabundance of frozen TV dinners. We have common cause with farmers in the Third World who protest against U.S. agricultural subsidies. They're fighting against the enormous quantities of cheap food that our corporate farmers dump on their markets, driving their local farmers out of business. Meanwhile, for us, it's a food quality issue: if we could promote family farms and more safety oversight, we would have less food on the domestic market and it would be more expensive, but the quality would be better. Less food on our domestic market would mean less cheap food exported to Third World nations, so their own farmers could stay in business. But neither Democrats nor Republicans seem to understand this basic concept, or even care about the problem. Both parties have supported bills in Congress that throw money into the pockets of corporate agribusiness at the expense of small family farms. In the race to win over Midwest farming states, candidates from both parties are falling over each other to offer more subsidies, gut more regulations, and undermine the safety of the food supply. It's time for a change -- a big change, not a little bit of tinkering here and there. A ban on slaughtering downer cows is only a first step. We need to ban subsidies to corporate agribusiness. We need initiatives that support family farms, that provide debt relief to overtaxed small farmers. We need to ban the kind of "technology" that small farmers can't afford but corporate farms use regularly to increase their output -- i.e., bovine growth hormone, cloning, and genetically modified organisms. We need the kind of price supports that keep small farms in business, but don't encourage large corporate farms to add more and more capacity out of greed and the need to please their shareholders. Those changes won't come soon, but they must come eventually. In the meantime, be careful what you eat. Eat local, eat organic, buy from your neighborhood farmer's market. It's more expensive, yes, but you get what you pay for...and you don't want to be paying for BSE. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel or bust
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Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel or bust
Sounds like the horse breeding business have a future in US. The farmers and others must freeze also, since light heating oil and diesel is the same. But you never know, it is US and maybe the do not know that they can use light heating oil in the tractors and this crises might at the end be a labelling problem. Labelling is very important in US. Hakan At 13:35 03/01/2004, you wrote: >I thought you might find this interesting reading. >Its interesting to see the federal MP's being concerned about the lack >of renewable fuels when they are the ones proposing to legislate to >prevent people from producing their own biodiesel! > ><http://www.abc.net.au/centralvic/stories/s1013442.htm>http://www.abc.net.au/centralvic/stories/s1013442.htm > > > Diesel or Bust > >Reporter: Dave Lennon and Claire Leunig > >Friday, 19 December 2003 > > > >The recent diesel shortage is having a detrimental effect on farmers >struggling to find enough of the fuel to run their harvesting machinery >at this crucial time of year. > >The ABC's Dave Lennon spoke to Federal Member for Murray, Dr Sharman Stone. > >Dr Stone says the diesel shortage couldn't come at a worse time, with >farmers already having faced drought and frost damage. > >"We've had this shortage of fuel now for about the last three weeks," >says Dr Stone. > >"It's meant a great deal of frustration, particularly when the transport >operators and the farmers haven't been able to get straight answers from >anybody." > >Dr Stone points out the frost had a particularly devastating effect in >the Goulburn and Murray Valley areas with the loss of all the apricots, >nectarines and plums. > >"(It's a) tragic thing after the drought of course, we were looking >forward to pulling back out with this seasons crop," says Dr Stone. > >"Then on the 28th of September we had minus 2.5 degrees, (the) worst >frost ever recorded, which took out all of those first summer fruits. > >"So the dependency now is on the apples, pears, cherries, and grapes, so >every kilo of fruit that we can get off the trees is going to help >people survive. > >"Now the last thing you need is to find you've put your order in for >diesel and instead of your full supply arriving on your farm, you're >getting a fraction of that - or not at all." > >According to Dr Stone, the major oil companies are "just out of touch >with their consumers." > >"We all knew - well everyone in Victoria knew - that we've had this >pulling out of the drought, that everybody is madly cutting hay, fodder, >every tractor is churning - for some (it's) 10 hours a day - fuel (is) >being used at a rate of never before. > >"Senior management from some of the oil companies said to me that they >estimated that there would be a 16 per cent increase in diesel >consumption, but in fact, there's been 24 per cent increase in diesel >consumption. > >"We've got a compounding of problems of miscalculations of how much fuel >we needed, the annual maintenance that they do on the refineries >happening business as usual, and then there is a shortage of transports >to physically get the fuel from the refineries out up to Northern Victoria. > >"Put all that together and you've got a problem." > >Dr Stone says with the lack of alternative fuels available, in >particular bio-diesel, there is little choice left for consumers. > >"Because we don't have the alternatives, like bio-diesel out there, the >canola mixes, and in other countries you've got the ethanol blends and >so on, we have only one option, (that) is the petroleum-based diesel. > >"It's a very concerning thing that we've got this shortage right now, >but more of a worry, when are we going to get over this hump?" Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -----~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Diesel or bust
I thought you might find this interesting reading. Its interesting to see the federal MP's being concerned about the lack of renewable fuels when they are the ones proposing to legislate to prevent people from producing their own biodiesel! http://www.abc.net.au/centralvic/stories/s1013442.htm Diesel or Bust Reporter: Dave Lennon and Claire Leunig Friday, 19 December 2003 The recent diesel shortage is having a detrimental effect on farmers struggling to find enough of the fuel to run their harvesting machinery at this crucial time of year. The ABC's Dave Lennon spoke to Federal Member for Murray, Dr Sharman Stone. Dr Stone says the diesel shortage couldn't come at a worse time, with farmers already having faced drought and frost damage. "We've had this shortage of fuel now for about the last three weeks," says Dr Stone. "It's meant a great deal of frustration, particularly when the transport operators and the farmers haven't been able to get straight answers from anybody." Dr Stone points out the frost had a particularly devastating effect in the Goulburn and Murray Valley areas with the loss of all the apricots, nectarines and plums. "(It's a) tragic thing after the drought of course, we were looking forward to pulling back out with this seasons crop," says Dr Stone. "Then on the 28th of September we had minus 2.5 degrees, (the) worst frost ever recorded, which took out all of those first summer fruits. "So the dependency now is on the apples, pears, cherries, and grapes, so every kilo of fruit that we can get off the trees is going to help people survive. "Now the last thing you need is to find you've put your order in for diesel and instead of your full supply arriving on your farm, you're getting a fraction of that - or not at all." According to Dr Stone, the major oil companies are "just out of touch with their consumers." "We all knew - well everyone in Victoria knew - that we've had this pulling out of the drought, that everybody is madly cutting hay, fodder, every tractor is churning - for some (it's) 10 hours a day - fuel (is) being used at a rate of never before. "Senior management from some of the oil companies said to me that they estimated that there would be a 16 per cent increase in diesel consumption, but in fact, there's been 24 per cent increase in diesel consumption. "We've got a compounding of problems of miscalculations of how much fuel we needed, the annual maintenance that they do on the refineries happening business as usual, and then there is a shortage of transports to physically get the fuel from the refineries out up to Northern Victoria. "Put all that together and you've got a problem." Dr Stone says with the lack of alternative fuels available, in particular bio-diesel, there is little choice left for consumers. "Because we don't have the alternatives, like bio-diesel out there, the canola mixes, and in other countries you've got the ethanol blends and so on, we have only one option, (that) is the petroleum-based diesel. "It's a very concerning thing that we've got this shortage right now, but more of a worry, when are we going to get over this hump?" Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] State Run Bio-Fuel Factories for mass and economic production to reduce the price!
California new Governor had declared fiscal emergency, because we have this 38 billions deficit. They have to cut more budgets and spending. Application to get licenses for buying and selling power in California had been temporally stopped since last September. Unless it's special circumstances?? I had read the replies from Public Utilities Commission several times and even asked the legal professional to read them, nobody could be sure what they want us to do? Apply or not to apply? Even there are cities are seriously considering to build their own power companies to serve the communities? Don't know which city dare to be the pioneer? Do you think it's a good idea to buy your power from your city? Instead of Edison? Or we can have our own PV or other renewable power systems? California is also a farmer state, maybe our good governor can spare some money to build state own BioFuel factories? And selling those cleaner biofuel to pay for the budget shortfalls? Hey! It's a good business and pretty good profit, because Diesel is a good commodity. We can even export, for God's sake! But we need production in more economic scale to lower the cost, so the BioFuel will be competitive! When there are a lot of protection of domestic industries, why not BioFuel? There are quota system for textile industry and the newly lift Steel anti-dumping duty for the Steel industry? Why nobody is giving domestic BioFuel a little help? Arnold wants to sell more bonds to collect funds, those bonds are IOUs with interests. Next March people will have to vote on that! In this kind of emergency, I think even the government can try some new moves. We need BioFuel and there is not enough of production. Public run Bio Fuel factories sounds okay to me? It's better than import more oil from Middle East! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] New technology could turn farm by-products into power
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[biofuels-biz] Fwd: BSE/animal TSEs/30 years and counting
tional sterilization means short of >extremely high temperatures. And where did the "one lone infected >cow"'s blood go? Down the drain, into the water system? Or where? > >There may be no satisfactory technical answers to questions like >these. As Dick Marsh said in his /JAVMA/ letter in 1990, by the time >the first BSE case appears in the US herd, it'll be a matter of >closing the barn door after the horse has left. > >We will see in coming weeks a lot of campaigns (some posing as news) >to reassure "the public" that everything is under control. That >there's nothing to worry about. That there was Just That One Cow, >and we got her, by gumby. That this proves the system is working. >Etc. > >When Ann Veneman can come off the starting line with chirpy >one-size-fits-all pronouncements, it's clear that she doesn't give a >hoot about consumer concerns and is getting bad science advice. No >matter! The important thing is to protect the industry! > >That's what "risk management" is all about. It doesn't matter if a >certain number or percentage of people are harmed, injured, >disabled, or killed. So long as the costs of that damage can be >contained (through mechanisms including making it legally impossible >for injured people to bring lawsuits against those who injured them, >or hiding the causes of their injury and calling it "proprietary >information") to the satisfaction of the richest players in the >system. > >To my great surprise, a number of you echoed that standpoint when >the topic came up around putting mercury in vaccines given to >children and infants. I read several opinions that, it doesn't >really matter if OTHER PEOPLE'S kids ended up with neurological >damage, so long as MINE didn't get polio. > >This kind of primitive, brutal, selfish thinking does not mesh well >with advanced technology. Nor with being fully human. > > >peace >mish >Michele Gale-Sinex Visit the SANET-MG archives at: http://lists.sare.org/archives/sanet-mg.html Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Study: Burning of rape seed oil, pure and in mixes with fuel oil of fossil origin
Hi Steven: Here is the link... http://btgs1.ct.utwente.nl/eeci/archive/biobase/B10249.html On Friday, January 2, 2004, at 05:07 AM, Steven & Helen Hobbs wrote: > Forgot to ask Ed,...do you have a link to that report? > > Steven > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Study: Burning of rape seed oil, pure and in mixes with fuel oil of fossil origin
Forgot to ask Ed,...do you have a link to that report? Steven Neoteric Biofuels Inc wrote: >BioBase > > >A number of interesting points here relevant to oil-burning furnaces as >well as diesels > > > >European Energy Crops InterNetwork > >Burning of rape seed oil, pure and in mixes with fuel oil of fossil >origin > > Abstract > Cold-pressed rape seed oil was burned in laboratory and in >practice, with and without preheating of the fuel. The rape seed oil >was burned pure and also in mixes with light fuel oil of fossil origin. > > > Keywords > Rape seed oil, Burning, Heat production, Preheating, Mix with >fossil oil > > > The study >Rape seed oil was burned in a Bentone QFZ46-1, a burner for heavy oils >in which the oil is preheated to 95 degrees Celcius. The combination of >fuel and burner was tried out both in laboratory and in an air heater >connected to a grain dryer. The use of the grain dryer was followed >during three seasons. > > In the laboratory, rape seed oil was also burned in a Bentone fuel oil >burner for villas, however with a complementary preheating of the oil >to 65 degrees Clecius. Experiences from two other fuel oil burners, >also equipped with preheating, were collected. In these, the oil was >preheated to 110 degrees Celcius. > > In laboratory, mixes of fossil fuel oil and rape seed oil was studied >in a Bentone burner BEO20 KAV with integrated preheater. The mixes were >50/50 and 70 % rape seed oil - 30 % fossil oil. No changes on the >burner were made. > > In a study of storage of mixes the content of rape seed oil was 30, >50, 70 and 90 %. > > > >Results >1. Rape seed oil could not be burned in conventional fuel oil burners >without being preheated. This was true for both pure rape seed oil and >mixes with light fossil oil. > > 2. By preheating the rape seed oil to 100 degrees Celsius, it was >possible to use the fuel in conventional burners for light fuel oil, >pure and in mixes. However, when burning pure rape seed oil, there was >a brown coating in the boiler. > > 3. In a burner for heavy fuel oil, which was equipped with a preheater >as is normal, the rape seed oil was burned without any problems. > > 4. In general, there is a need for changing the oil pump to one which >can work against a higher pressure than is normal in burners for light >oils. This is due to the higher viscosity at room temperature for the >rape seed oil. It may also be necessary to change pipes between the >fuel storage and the burner. > > 5. It was found that it is of great importance that the oil is clean. >Rape seed oil pressed on farm can be cleaned by sedimentation. The time >for sedimentation has to be at least 20 days. After that, the oil must >be filtered through a filter of 40 mikrometer or finer. > > 6. Rape seed oil will loosen up dirt in tanks, pipes, etc. This can >lead to blocking of pumps, nozzles etc. and cause serious stops in the >use of the burner. Therefore, tanks and pipes should be cleaned before >the use of rape seed oil. There should be a filter in front of the >burner of 40 mikrometer or finer. > > 7. Rape seed oil is aggressive to some materials that are used in >elastomers (gaskets). Elastomers made out of viton or similar are >recommended. > > 8. Mixes of light fossil oil and rape seed oil were stable during a >long period of time. They should be stored cool, dark and in a closed >containers that prevents change of air. Under such circumstances, mixes >can be stored without problems during at least a year. > > > > > > > > Last edit: March, 23 1998. Expire date: 12.31.1999. >DocumentID >B10249 > > > > > > > > > >Biofuels at Journey to Forever >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >. > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuels-biz/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
