Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Jim Leonard wrote: Anyway, I won't be bidding on anything from him for the two reasons I mentioned in the other mail. Go ahead!! Geez -- I have my own price for these things so it's not like I'm going to be mad if you outbid me. I'm not claiming dibs on these, just letting you guys know what I'm planning on sniping on. No no, it's not because of the dibs issue. It's for those two reasons I mentioned on my first reply to Alexander: a) he doesn't want int bidders b) charging $6 sh for US shippings is a too much. Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] So long, and thanks for all the fish http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Yes, I know that. What happened in the game, then? Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] So long, and thanks for all the fish C.E. Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/11/01 13:15 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Actually, no. Ford gives Arthur the Babel fish in the book. - Original Message - From: Pedro Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs About Hitchhiker... many times the creators of games that are based on well-known books forget that the players may have not read the book yet (or ever will). So maybe that Babelfish puzzle was clear to whomever read tHHGttG, but not for everyone else? Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] So long, and thanks for all the fish Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/11/01 22:52 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Jim Leonard boldly stated: Chris Newman wrote: I think this paucity of physical components falls under the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). Am I being too harsh here? No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a puzzle so out there that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the game. I don't know. I think the Babel fish in Hitchhiker just about qualifies. 8) I managed to figure out everything except the final step before I got the hint book. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ http://www.salvador-caetano.pt
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Side note: The Hitchhikers' Guide series is one of the best written sci-fi humor epics of all time! I've noticed that the hardcover compliation (w/all five books and an extra short story) has been in the bargain books racks at BN for the past 2 years. It is a steal at $15. I've a suspicion that the bargain status is a marketing ploy, and the book is a consistent seller. If you've never read the series pick it up! (Or, you can download the complete works from many places). The author, Douglas Adams, died a few months ago. I think he was only 50. 50! C.E. Forman wrote: Actually, no. Ford gives Arthur the Babel fish in the book. - Original Message - From: Pedro Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs About Hitchhiker... many times the creators of games that are based on well-known books forget that the players may have not read the book yet (or ever will). So maybe that Babelfish puzzle was clear to whomever read tHHGttG, but not for everyone else? Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] So long, and thanks for all the fish Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/11/01 22:52 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Jim Leonard boldly stated: Chris Newman wrote: I think this paucity of physical components falls under the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). Am I being too harsh here? No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a puzzle so out there that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the game. I don't know. I think the Babel fish in Hitchhiker just about qualifies. 8) I managed to figure out everything except the final step before I got the hint book. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Agreed (sorry for continuing the tangent but I'm passionate about HHGG). I have everything from the paperbacks to the hard-cover, leather-bound compendium. I have a couple of audio tape versions and the movie. I would save the movie for last since it will likely turn you off (with cheesy Dr. Who/BBC type effects). The audio tape is actually the original format for HHGG and highly recommended. The books are also excellent reads (especially the first two). If you're into English humor (like Monty Python), they are a must. If not, this may convert you. HHGG has shaped my sense of humor since I first heard/read/saw it in college. Hugh -Original Message- From: Chris Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Side note: The Hitchhikers' Guide series is one of the best written sci-fi humor epics of all time! I've noticed that the hardcover compliation (w/all five books and an extra short story) has been in the bargain books racks at BN for the past 2 years. It is a steal at $15. I've a suspicion that the bargain status is a marketing ploy, and the book is a consistent seller. If you've never read the series pick it up! (Or, you can download the complete works from many places). The author, Douglas Adams, died a few months ago. I think he was only 50. 50! C.E. Forman wrote: Actually, no. Ford gives Arthur the Babel fish in the book. - Original Message - From: Pedro Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs About Hitchhiker... many times the creators of games that are based on well-known books forget that the players may have not read the book yet (or ever will). So maybe that Babelfish puzzle was clear to whomever read tHHGttG, but not for everyone else? Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] So long, and thanks for all the fish Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/11/01 22:52 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Jim Leonard boldly stated: Chris Newman wrote: I think this paucity of physical components falls under the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). Am I being too harsh here? No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a puzzle so out there that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the game. I don't know. I think the Babel fish in Hitchhiker just about qualifies. 8) I managed to figure out everything except the final step before I got the hint book. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at:
RE: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (was shock)))
Well I couldn't find one for the Pocket PC, but I did find one that works right with my ST emulator. I beat it for old times sake...of course I had to cheat for old times sake as well. By cheat, I mean make back-ups. For those that don't know or remember, Rogue exits the game every time you save. And it deletes the save file every time you load. So the save feature is more for convenience when you're getting tired and not helpful at all in winning the game. I would always back up the save file so if I died, I can always restore (the way most saves work...just more cumbersome). Even still, it took me about 4 days to win. I don't know about any of you, but I've always thought Rogue (at least ST version) is impossible to win without making backups. Just too many random bad things can and do happen. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Killer Games (was Soccer Games (was shock)) Hugh Falk boldly stated: Is there a version [of Rogue] for Pocket PC I haven't investigated yet...I'll have to! Since I don't own one, I don't know. But let me know what you find out. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (was shock)))
You're dead on. I had a magical two-handed sword, potions, plate mail, good hit points and strength. Everything was going fine, so much so that I decided not to save along the way with my excellent character. What happens? Troll, 12th level. Whap, whap, whapwhapwhap. Five rounds, I'm dead. Game over, no recourse. G. I also cheated by using my identify scrolls to ID everything and then restore a saved game. It was much easier than trying to carry everything and discover their uses the right way. Once you're past the 20th level the game gets exceptionally tough. Between the vampires that drain your hitpoints, medusae that confuse you, and griffins that are almost impossible to kill without wasting scads of magic charges, you're chances of surviving to 26 is difficult. I once had a super-character that went down to level 50. I kept building up levels by hiding in a maze to recoup my hit points (I had a ring of slow digestion) and venturing back out to whack Jaberwockys and Griffins. I also wanted to see all of the level titles, i.e. hero, Rogue, etc. At the very high levels the titles became sarcastic; namely Schmendrick, Time Waster and so on. After a certain point the hero titles would recycle and you'd be back to Apprentice with 400 hit points. In theory you could go deeper and deeper into the dungeon, but the game's routines would increase the monster power proportionately, such that a Medusa on level 40 would kill you, while the same on level 20 would be physically unable to breach your armor. The hall of fame had a limit in storing high scores. My best score was around 45,000 but Rogue would crash when trying to process the score into the scr file. A great game. P.S. VIRTUAL SOUND BITE FROM LAST NIGHT Wife -- Chris! Chris! Come here, hurry!! Me [Run run run] Me What's wrong, are you okay? Wife Looks who is on Frasier! Me [Watching silly sitcom carefully] Voice on TV: [Person on talk show in sitcom] Sure, Windows XP will make your computing experience easier Me Jesus Christ, Bill Gates [Lucifer himself] is on a TV sitcom. And of course he's plugging Microsoft. Wife Hahahahahahahahahahaha -- can you believe it? I wonder why that happened. Gates' publicity department must have convinced him a folksy appearance on a popular sitcom would give him free positive exposure. I would have made it more realistic: Gates comes in, assumes ownership of the network through use of monopolistic influence and under the table threats, fires the leadership, and starts plugging XP and X-Box 24 hours a day. Hugh Falk wrote: Well I couldn't find one for the Pocket PC, but I did find one that works right with my ST emulator. I beat it for old times sake...of course I had to cheat for old times sake as well. By cheat, I mean make back-ups. For those that don't know or remember, Rogue exits the game every time you save. And it deletes the save file every time you load. So the save feature is more for convenience when you're getting tired and not helpful at all in winning the game. I would always back up the save file so if I died, I can always restore (the way most saves work...just more cumbersome). Even still, it took me about 4 days to win. I don't know about any of you, but I've always thought Rogue (at least ST version) is impossible to win without making backups. Just too many random bad things can and do happen. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Killer Games (was Soccer Games (was shock)) Hugh Falk boldly stated: Is there a version [of Rogue] for Pocket PC I haven't investigated yet...I'll have to! Since I don't own one, I don't know. But let me know what you find out. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject
Re: [SWCollect] Re: OT: Douglas Adams (was: New SKUs)
Lee K. Seitz wrote: just need to get Starship Titanic. (Anyone got a spare?) I've got a spare you can have. It's missing some materials (no 3D glasses) but should be playable. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (was shock))))
Chris Newman wrote: Voice on TV: [Person on talk show in sitcom] Sure, Windows XP will make your computing experience easier Me Jesus Christ, Bill Gates [Lucifer himself] is on a TV sitcom. And of course he's plugging Microsoft. While nobody wants to talk about it, this was the result of some pretty hefty favors exchanged between Microsoft and NBC. I have heard fairly unsettling rumors. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (was shock))))
What's the story? Is MS abusing its relationship with NBC? Where'd you hear the rumors? Yes, I'm very interested in that. Gates is part snake oil salesman, part gangster, and all opportunist. Jim Leonard wrote: Chris Newman wrote: Voice on TV: [Person on talk show in sitcom] Sure, Windows XP will make your computing experience easier Me Jesus Christ, Bill Gates [Lucifer himself] is on a TV sitcom. And of course he's plugging Microsoft. While nobody wants to talk about it, this was the result of some pretty hefty favors exchanged between Microsoft and NBC. I have heard fairly unsettling rumors. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (was shock)))
Jim Leonard boldly stated: My early batch file experience was making batch files to save, load, and restore my Hack save games. Trust me, I am intimately familiar with this. Of course, it's cheating -- you weren't a real man unless you beat it without backups ;-) Yeah, well, I did the same thing with NetHack and X-Wing. It's interesting that iRogue (for the Palm OS) actually includes restoring saved games after you die as a feature. But you have to make sure you save the game yourself, as the automatic one does get deleted. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] Anybody know these games?
I went to a couple thrift stores today and came across these games. Anybody heard of them? I'm not sure what platform they're for. (They're in a case and I didn't ask to see them.) Enigma (by BW Software) Shuttle (by Virgin) Also, is Sargon III for the Apple II worth anything? (I'm guessing not.) -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
