Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Stephen S. Lee wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > > > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > [snip] > > > > "Wing Commander Premiere" will generally bring it up, without any false > > > > positives. None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was > > > > missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13. "Wing Commander III" will get > > > > most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift > > > > through 30-40 bogus finds. > > > > > > I found this: > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1258292041 > > > > > > How complete is it? > > > > It's missing a few parts, but the T-shirt is there (it's the part most > > likely to be missing). Mine has never been worn. > > Now that I've taken another look, I don't have the audio CD in my copy. > Damn. I'd be happy to make a copy for you if you'd be willing to make a (decent) copy of the video. :) Interested? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > [snip] > > > "Wing Commander Premiere" will generally bring it up, without any false > > > positives. None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was > > > missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13. "Wing Commander III" will get > > > most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift > > > through 30-40 bogus finds. > > > > I found this: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1258292041 > > > > How complete is it? > > It's missing a few parts, but the T-shirt is there (it's the part most > likely to be missing). Mine has never been worn. > > > You mentioned a video, but it contains an > > "interactive CD" -- is this not the video? Also, where can I find a > > list of the complete items? I went to a couple of WC fansites but they > > kept referring to an out-of-date FAQ. > > Hmm, I remember finding a Web-based one out there a few months ago, but it > didn't list everything. Here's my copy: > > 1. Flat corrugated cardboard box. Mine doesn't have anything to indicate >that it's the WC3 Premiere Edition; it's unadorned, which makes me a bit >worried. I do know that the film can definitely comes in a box of >about this size, though. > 2. Terran Confederation T-shirt (mine is XL and black). > 3. "Fleet Action" Wing Commander paperback novel (same one as you can find >in a bookstore, used being more likely). Apparently the series is >popular among non-gameplayers, as the novels just keep coming. > 4. "Making of Wing Commander III" VHS tape in a slipcase (the copy on >eBay seems to be missing this). > 5. Gray film can. Has a "Wing Commander III Premiere Edition" sticker >on it. > 6. 1995 Wing Commander calendar. > 7. "Behind the Scenes of Wing Commander III" CD in a jewel case. > 8. 4 game CD's in separate jewel cases. > 9. Wing Commander III poster (resembles a movie poster). > 10. Playguide (I think this is the same as the standard version). > 11. Install guide (ditto). > 12. Victory Streak magazine-let (ditto). > 13. Reference card (ditto). > 14. Ship fold-out poster (ditto). > 15. Registration card. > 16. Ad for the book "Inside Wing Commander III". Crap; my bid is way too high then. Thanks very much for the complete list; this is a clip'n'save. And I would really like a copy of that video somehow... when the demodvd project is on autopilot, I promised several people that I would remaster the Sierra promotional videos of the late 80's onto a DVD. Since they would hardly take up all the space, I was also going to stick the Making of the 7th Guest video on there, as well as a few others that came with games, and this would be a great addition. Willing to lend it to me when the time comes? (Hey, if I can get Tom of Quest Studios willing to lend me his, I figure I can get anyone to lend them out ;-) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Stephen S. Lee wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > [snip] > > > "Wing Commander Premiere" will generally bring it up, without any false > > > positives. None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was > > > missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13. "Wing Commander III" will get > > > most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift > > > through 30-40 bogus finds. > > > > I found this: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1258292041 > > > > How complete is it? > > It's missing a few parts, but the T-shirt is there (it's the part most > likely to be missing). Mine has never been worn. Now that I've taken another look, I don't have the audio CD in my copy. Damn. -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: [snip] > > "Wing Commander Premiere" will generally bring it up, without any false > > positives. None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was > > missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13. "Wing Commander III" will get > > most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift > > through 30-40 bogus finds. > > I found this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1258292041 > > How complete is it? It's missing a few parts, but the T-shirt is there (it's the part most likely to be missing). Mine has never been worn. > You mentioned a video, but it contains an > "interactive CD" -- is this not the video? Also, where can I find a > list of the complete items? I went to a couple of WC fansites but they > kept referring to an out-of-date FAQ. Hmm, I remember finding a Web-based one out there a few months ago, but it didn't list everything. Here's my copy: 1. Flat corrugated cardboard box. Mine doesn't have anything to indicate that it's the WC3 Premiere Edition; it's unadorned, which makes me a bit worried. I do know that the film can definitely comes in a box of about this size, though. 2. Terran Confederation T-shirt (mine is XL and black). 3. "Fleet Action" Wing Commander paperback novel (same one as you can find in a bookstore, used being more likely). Apparently the series is popular among non-gameplayers, as the novels just keep coming. 4. "Making of Wing Commander III" VHS tape in a slipcase (the copy on eBay seems to be missing this). 5. Gray film can. Has a "Wing Commander III Premiere Edition" sticker on it. 6. 1995 Wing Commander calendar. 7. "Behind the Scenes of Wing Commander III" CD in a jewel case. 8. 4 game CD's in separate jewel cases. 9. Wing Commander III poster (resembles a movie poster). 10. Playguide (I think this is the same as the standard version). 11. Install guide (ditto). 12. Victory Streak magazine-let (ditto). 13. Reference card (ditto). 14. Ship fold-out poster (ditto). 15. Registration card. 16. Ad for the book "Inside Wing Commander III". An ad or two might be missing, but I'm pretty certain everything critical is here. -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
All of the original TR releases, plus Thief I and II, Deathtrap Dungeon. - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages > I have FF7, Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider II and Conquest Earth in that shape, > and I know I've seen serveral others. > > -Original Message- > From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages > > > > All the Eidos boxes have that shape? Then I don't know if it's an European > "feature" or if the following just happened in Portugal, but both Final > Fantasy 7 and Tomb Raider 3 sold in these parts have ye olde regulare > rectangulare boxe. > > Pedro R. Quaresma > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "All your base are belong to us" > > > > "Hugh Falk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > pring.com>A/C: > Ref: > 27-07-2001cc: > 14:48 Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward > game packages > Solicita-se > resposta a > swcollect > > > > > > FF VII came in the triangle shaped EIDOS box that most of their games came > in (Tomb Raider, etc.)...a bit awkward, but not overly large or difficult > to > deal with. > > Hugh > > -Original Message- > From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages > > > > That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box > shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an > hourglass. > > Also, one of the Final Fantasy VII editions was released in a similarly > weird box. > > Pedro R. Quaresma > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "All your base are belong to us" > > > > "Lee K. Seitz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > iwaay.net>A/C: > Ref: > 26-07-2001cc: > 17:46 Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward > game packages > Solicita-se > resposta a > swcollect > > > > > > Jim Leonard boldly stated: > > > >"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > >> Any other awkward games of interest out there? > > > >A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace > font > >to see diagrams correctly) > > >Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an > octagon: > > > > Top view: > >_ > >\ / > > \ / > > - > > Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others) > came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a > standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I > bought it way back when in part because you could import characters > from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items. > I was disappointed with it and never got very far. > > -- > Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ >Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie >(The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search > results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ > > > > > > > http://www.salvador-caetano.pt > http://www.globalshop.pt > > > > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > It seems they're released in that unusual box in the USA, and in a normal > box in Europe (or, as I mentioned, at least in Portugal). > > I'm starting to hate these "European packages"... now the latest (?) craze > seems to be selling PC games in those small DVD boxes. :/ Check the archives of this mailing list (URL is convienently located below) to see a long discussion we had about that before you joined. I find it very depressing from a collector's standpoint, but I understand the rationale (from the point of The Suits, anyway). -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box > shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an > hourglass. You're right; scans of that are also on MobyGames. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > All the Eidos boxes have that shape? Then I don't know if it's an European > "feature" or if the following just happened in Portugal, but both Final > Fantasy 7 and Tomb Raider 3 sold in these parts have ye olde regulare > rectangulare boxe. One of the many joys of cross-continental packaging. I've noticed this general trend throughout the years on my side of the pond: In the 1980s, the Euro version of a game almost always came in a much smaller box than for the US. In the 1990s, the Euro version of a game came in roughly the same size box but with completely different cover art. Here onward, the Euro version of a game will come in the new DVD clamshell-style packaging, with the US to follow :-( -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
It seems they're released in that unusual box in the USA, and in a normal
box in Europe (or, as I mentioned, at least in Portugal).
I'm starting to hate these "European packages"... now the latest (?) craze
seems to be selling PC games in those small DVD boxes. :/
Pedro R. Quaresma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"All your base are belong to us"
"Hugh Falk"
pring.com>A/C:
Ref:
27-07-2001cc:
15:28 Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game
packages
Solicita-se
resposta a
swcollect
I have FF7, Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider II and Conquest Earth in that shape,
and I know I've seen serveral others.
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
All the Eidos boxes have that shape? Then I don't know if it's an European
"feature" or if the following just happened in Portugal, but both Final
Fantasy 7 and Tomb Raider 3 sold in these parts have ye olde regulare
rectangulare boxe.
Pedro R. Quaresma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"All your base are belong to us"
"Hugh Falk"
pring.com>A/C:
Ref:
27-07-2001 cc:
14:48 Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward
game packages
Solicita-se
resposta a
swcollect
FF VII came in the triangle shaped EIDOS box that most of their games came
in (Tomb Raider, etc.)...a bit awkward, but not overly large or difficult
to
deal with.
Hugh
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box
shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an
hourglass.
Also, one of the Final Fantasy VII editions was released in a similarly
weird box.
Pedro R. Quaresma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"All your base are belong to us"
"Lee K. Seitz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
iwaay.net>A/C:
Ref:
26-07-2001cc:
17:46 Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward
game packages
Solicita-se
resposta a
swcollect
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>"Stephen S. Lee" wrote:
>> Any other awkward games of interest out there?
>
>A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace
font
>to see diagrams correctly)
>Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an
octagon:
>
> Top view:
>_
>\ /
> \ /
> -
Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others)
came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a
standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I
bought it way back when in part because you could import characters
from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items.
I was disappointed with it and never got very far.
--
Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie
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RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
I have FF7, Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider II and Conquest Earth in that shape,
and I know I've seen serveral others.
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
All the Eidos boxes have that shape? Then I don't know if it's an European
"feature" or if the following just happened in Portugal, but both Final
Fantasy 7 and Tomb Raider 3 sold in these parts have ye olde regulare
rectangulare boxe.
Pedro R. Quaresma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"All your base are belong to us"
"Hugh Falk"
pring.com>A/C:
Ref:
27-07-2001cc:
14:48 Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward
game packages
Solicita-se
resposta a
swcollect
FF VII came in the triangle shaped EIDOS box that most of their games came
in (Tomb Raider, etc.)...a bit awkward, but not overly large or difficult
to
deal with.
Hugh
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box
shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an
hourglass.
Also, one of the Final Fantasy VII editions was released in a similarly
weird box.
Pedro R. Quaresma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"All your base are belong to us"
"Lee K. Seitz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
iwaay.net>A/C:
Ref:
26-07-2001 cc:
17:46 Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward
game packages
Solicita-se
resposta a
swcollect
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>"Stephen S. Lee" wrote:
>> Any other awkward games of interest out there?
>
>A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace
font
>to see diagrams correctly)
>Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an
octagon:
>
> Top view:
>_
>\ /
> \ /
> -
Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others)
came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a
standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I
bought it way back when in part because you could import characters
from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items.
I was disappointed with it and never got very far.
--
Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie
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All the Eidos boxes have that shape? Then I don't know if it's an European
"feature" or if the following just happened in Portugal, but both Final
Fantasy 7 and Tomb Raider 3 sold in these parts have ye olde regulare
rectangulare boxe.
Pedro R. Quaresma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"All your base are belong to us"
"Hugh Falk"
pring.com>A/C:
Ref:
27-07-2001cc:
14:48 Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game
packages
Solicita-se
resposta a
swcollect
FF VII came in the triangle shaped EIDOS box that most of their games came
in (Tomb Raider, etc.)...a bit awkward, but not overly large or difficult
to
deal with.
Hugh
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box
shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an
hourglass.
Also, one of the Final Fantasy VII editions was released in a similarly
weird box.
Pedro R. Quaresma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"All your base are belong to us"
"Lee K. Seitz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
iwaay.net>A/C:
Ref:
26-07-2001 cc:
17:46 Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward
game packages
Solicita-se
resposta a
swcollect
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>"Stephen S. Lee" wrote:
>> Any other awkward games of interest out there?
>
>A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace
font
>to see diagrams correctly)
>Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an
octagon:
>
> Top view:
>_
>\ /
> \ /
> -
Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others)
came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a
standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I
bought it way back when in part because you could import characters
from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items.
I was disappointed with it and never got very far.
--
Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie
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RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
FF VII came in the triangle shaped EIDOS box that most of their games came in (Tomb Raider, etc.)...a bit awkward, but not overly large or difficult to deal with. Hugh -Original Message- From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an hourglass. Also, one of the Final Fantasy VII editions was released in a similarly weird box. Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All your base are belong to us" "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iwaay.net>A/C: Ref: 26-07-2001cc: 17:46 Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: >> Any other awkward games of interest out there? > >A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace font >to see diagrams correctly) >Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an octagon: > > Top view: >_ >\ / > \ / > - Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others) came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I bought it way back when in part because you could import characters from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items. I was disappointed with it and never got very far. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an hourglass. Also, one of the Final Fantasy VII editions was released in a similarly weird box. Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All your base are belong to us" "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iwaay.net>A/C: Ref: 26-07-2001cc: 17:46 Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: >> Any other awkward games of interest out there? > >A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace font >to see diagrams correctly) >Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an octagon: > > Top view: >_ >\ / > \ / > - Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others) came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I bought it way back when in part because you could import characters from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items. I was disappointed with it and never got very far. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
My love for Darklands (and Daggerfall) resides specially for the fact that
they are both games that you always return to.
(Although Daggerfall has main quests and an endgame, it's not the most
important part of the game, IMO)
But as far as Darklands goes, you're right, it doesn't end. Isn't this what
a real RPG should be? It represents the life of four heroes (which can be
as young as 16 or as old as 56, IIRC), and you can play them the way you
want, either just by running around stealing from peasants, or by defeating
robber barons and sabbath witches.
The game has two "main" quests (killing a Dragon and defeating an Evil
priest), if you can do both, you have pretty much "completed" the game, as
they're the two most difficult quests, but you can go on playinf forever,
even if your characters get too old (just create others and add them to
that same party in that case)
Pedro R. Quaresma
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"All your base are belong to us"
Jim Leonard
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swcollect
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
>
> You know, for that matter, I don't seem to manage to finish many
> RPG/adventure/IF games. I finished HHGTTG (after I finally got the
> !@#$ babel fish) and Bureacracy, but not Maniac Mansion or Nord &
> Bert. For that matter, I bought the collector's edition of X-Wing and
> never started the supplemental missions (after destroying the Death
> Star). (I bet that game would scream on my P700. Especially compared
> to the 286-20 I first played it on.) Maybe I've got ADD. And maybe
> now I understand better why I'm a classic video game collector and not
> so much a computer game collector.
>
> I may not be able to finish a game, but I sure can blather on, can't
> I?
Evidently, you've never known me. Oh wait, yes you do. :-)
I am the same way. I only finish RPGs when I have the drive to start them.
When I start an RPG or Adventure game (and I consider Deus Ex more an
Adventure than anything else, which was the last game to grab me), I *know*
I
won't do anything else computer-wise until it's finished. I hate leaving
games
unfinished. Because I want to do other things computer-wise, I don't start
RPGs more than once a year.
Although, if what I read about Darklands is right, I'd play Darklands
forever
(it doesn't end?)
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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > > > > > Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this > > > shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think > > > there were more than that. It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's > > > there. > > > > I'm willing to pay $150 if it's complete, less if it's not. If you > > could find me the exact title (ie what to search for on ebay without > > getting 2134 hits on "wing commander") I'd really appreciate it. > > "Wing Commander Premiere" will generally bring it up, without any false > positives. None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was > missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13. "Wing Commander III" will get > most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift > through 30-40 bogus finds. I found this: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1258292041 How complete is it? You mentioned a video, but it contains an "interactive CD" -- is this not the video? Also, where can I find a list of the complete items? I went to a couple of WC fansites but they kept referring to an out-of-date FAQ. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > > > > > Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this > > > shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think > > > there were more than that. It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's > > > there. > > > > I'm willing to pay $150 if it's complete, less if it's not. If you > > could find me the exact title (ie what to search for on ebay without > > getting 2134 hits on "wing commander") I'd really appreciate it. > > "Wing Commander Premiere" will generally bring it up, without any false > positives. None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was > missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13. "Wing Commander III" will get > most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift > through 30-40 bogus finds. > > This seems to show up about once every 3-4 weeks on average (not > necessarily complete). Thanks for the tip! -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > > > Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this > > shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think > > there were more than that. It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's > > there. > > I'm willing to pay $150 if it's complete, less if it's not. If you > could find me the exact title (ie what to search for on ebay without > getting 2134 hits on "wing commander") I'd really appreciate it. "Wing Commander Premiere" will generally bring it up, without any false positives. None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13. "Wing Commander III" will get most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift through 30-40 bogus finds. This seems to show up about once every 3-4 weeks on average (not necessarily complete). -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > You know, for that matter, I don't seem to manage to finish many > RPG/adventure/IF games. I finished HHGTTG (after I finally got the > !@#$ babel fish) and Bureacracy, but not Maniac Mansion or Nord & > Bert. For that matter, I bought the collector's edition of X-Wing and > never started the supplemental missions (after destroying the Death > Star). (I bet that game would scream on my P700. Especially compared > to the 286-20 I first played it on.) Maybe I've got ADD. And maybe > now I understand better why I'm a classic video game collector and not > so much a computer game collector. > > I may not be able to finish a game, but I sure can blather on, can't > I? Evidently, you've never known me. Oh wait, yes you do. :-) I am the same way. I only finish RPGs when I have the drive to start them. When I start an RPG or Adventure game (and I consider Deus Ex more an Adventure than anything else, which was the last game to grab me), I *know* I won't do anything else computer-wise until it's finished. I hate leaving games unfinished. Because I want to do other things computer-wise, I don't start RPGs more than once a year. Although, if what I read about Darklands is right, I'd play Darklands forever (it doesn't end?) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this > shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think > there were more than that. It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's > there. I'm willing to pay $150 if it's complete, less if it's not. If you could find me the exact title (ie what to search for on ebay without getting 2134 hits on "wing commander") I'd really appreciate it. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: > "Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > > > * Wing Commander III Premiere Edition. Easily the largest game box I own. > > There's no way this is going to fit on a bookshelf (it's way too large in > > two dimensions). > > Is that the film can? Anyone know where I can get something like > this? It's eluded me ever since I learned about it. I *am* willing > to pay fairly for it. Yes, it's the film can. Note that the film can actually goes in the box; there is a *ton* of stuff in there, with the film can only taking up about half of the box space. The box is flat and while it's not quite the square meter I've claimed it to be in the past, it's not that far off the mark. It shows up on eBay with some regularity (certainly more often than many other things I'm looking for), but the catch is that it is hardly ever complete. If the book is missing, it's easy to replace, as it's the same one you can pluck from a used bookstore, but the T-shirt, VHS tape, and making-of-WC3 CD are a different matter (and at least one of these is highly likely to not be there). Also, it's sometimes described poorly in the title (okay, well, that's not really news). If you want a complete contents list, I can either get my copy out and list 'em all, or there's a big Wing Commander fan site which lists *most* of the contents. Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think there were more than that. It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's there. > > * Escape From Monkey Island Signature Edition. Oh, it fits the shelves > > okay, but there are props inside. Guess what one of props inside is? A > > *magnet*. It's one of the flat types, so I don't think it's much of a > > threat, but just as a precaution it's going to be isolated from my whole > > main collection-library. > > A magnet! LOL! Good thing you caught that. Yeah, it's a commentary on the evolution of computer gaming. Such bold leaps away from the status quo can lead to isolation, though. :) [...] > Day of the Tentacle: Original box was a triangular box with three sides (cover > scans on MobyGames) [...] > Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers: Original box was shaped like fractured > glass (see MobyGames for cover scans) I need to remember to put these on my most wanted list. Thanks for the reminder. :) -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: >> >> Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others) >> came in a hexagonal box. >> I >> bought it way back when in part because you could import characters >> from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items. >> I was disappointed with it and never got very far. > >Why disappointed? It sounds fascinating, especially the party >import/conversion. I don't remember exactly why I was disappointed with it any more. It's been too long since I played it. I do seem to recall that some of the inventory conversions from M&M to CA didn't seem to make much sense. I still have it, uh, somewhere. (Did I see it last night in my computer desk? I don't remember.) I found a page for it at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/2762/centauri/main.htm. And, FYI, it turns out it was released on the C64, too. Overall, however, I just don't seem to be cut out for computer RPG's. I never finished Might & Magic, either. Members of my party seemed to get continually killed. I did manage to map out a pretty sizable portion of the game before I bought the hint book, though. I think it was shortly after I got the hint book that I quit playing. I don't remember why. M&M was the last RPG I played, too. No time to play them these days. You know, for that matter, I don't seem to manage to finish many RPG/adventure/IF games. I finished HHGTTG (after I finally got the !@#$ babel fish) and Bureacracy, but not Maniac Mansion or Nord & Bert. For that matter, I bought the collector's edition of X-Wing and never started the supplemental missions (after destroying the Death Star). (I bet that game would scream on my P700. Especially compared to the 286-20 I first played it on.) Maybe I've got ADD. And maybe now I understand better why I'm a classic video game collector and not so much a computer game collector. I may not be able to finish a game, but I sure can blather on, can't I? -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others) > came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a > standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I > bought it way back when in part because you could import characters > from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items. > I was disappointed with it and never got very far. Why disappointed? It sounds fascinating, especially the party import/conversion. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
In a message dated 07/26/2001 11:21:16 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The fish game I've never seen, but it's not El-Fish because El-Fish comes in a normal box. >> Next time I tear apart my storage area I'll try to find it, REALLY AWKWARD!!! Flimsy too. Tom -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: >> Any other awkward games of interest out there? > >A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace font >to see diagrams correctly) >Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an octagon: > > Top view: >_ >\ / > \ / > - Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others) came in a hexagonal box. Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf. I bought it way back when in part because you could import characters from Might & Magic. Their magical items would become hi-tech items. I was disappointed with it and never got very far. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > There is a Joe and Mac in an octagon box, also some strange fish game I have > that has to be the MOST awkward package, I think the box is shaped like a 3D > fish. Yes, forgot about Joe and Mac -- it's an octagon box decorated like a crude stone wheel (Joe and Mac is a "stone-age" platformer). The fish game I've never seen, but it's not El-Fish because El-Fish comes in a normal box. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
There is a Joe and Mac in an octagon box, also some strange fish game I have that has to be the MOST awkward package, I think the box is shaped like a 3D fish. Tom -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
"Stephen S. Lee" wrote: > > * Wing Commander III Premiere Edition. Easily the largest game box I own. > There's no way this is going to fit on a bookshelf (it's way too large in > two dimensions). Is that the film can? Anyone know where I can get something like this? It's eluded me ever since I learned about it. I *am* willing to pay fairly for it. > * Escape From Monkey Island Signature Edition. Oh, it fits the shelves > okay, but there are props inside. Guess what one of props inside is? A > *magnet*. It's one of the flat types, so I don't think it's much of a > threat, but just as a precaution it's going to be isolated from my whole > main collection-library. A magnet! LOL! Good thing you caught that. > Any other awkward games of interest out there? A few I can remember and/or own: (and view this in a Courier or monospace font to see diagrams correctly) X-Car: Was an x-shaped box. Later boxes were framed in a clear normal-dimension plastic box. Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an octagon: Top view: _ \ / \ / - Day of the Tentacle: Original box was a triangular box with three sides (cover scans on MobyGames) Jetfighter II: Multi-part box was shaped oddly; hard to describe Spectre: Shaped like the Star Trek insignia, very hard to stand on end (I'm not kidding, look:) Front view: /| / | /___ | /___--\| Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers: Original box was shaped like fractured glass (see MobyGames for cover scans) I can't remember more offhand, but I'm sure others can. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages
What about the Suspended mask? Oh, and it isn't the "Starcross saucer". There's no such thing as a "Starcross saucer". It has recently been officially renamed by the members of this mailing list to "the pink frisbee". Weird but true. Thank you. :) Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All your base are belong to us" "Stephen S. Lee" Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ref: cc: 26-07-2001 Assunto: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages 09:51 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect OK, so I'm gradually moving to a new place in Berkeley (fortunately, relatively cheap -- by Berkeley standards at least), and I am establishing the Mighty Bookcases of Doom there. Er, okay, so they are just a set of four bookcases purchased for $70 apiece at IKEA. They still work great for computer games -- the shelves can be spaced evenly to accomodate any normal-sized computer game (nice fit, too -- a large box fits nicely with not much extra room to spare). I haven't quite set everything up yet (I need to get more shelves, actually), and I'm still agonizing over just how to organize my games on the shelves. Not everything is going to fit, but everything significant to me in any way should, at least at first, heh. Anyway, a few games are misbehaving. I think I'll shelve some small books separately on a bookcase that has actual books, but here are a few games that will require special treatment: * Wing Commander III Premiere Edition. Easily the largest game box I own. There's no way this is going to fit on a bookshelf (it's way too large in two dimensions). * Escape From Monkey Island Signature Edition. Oh, it fits the shelves okay, but there are props inside. Guess what one of props inside is? A *magnet*. It's one of the flat types, so I don't think it's much of a threat, but just as a precaution it's going to be isolated from my whole main collection-library. * Sid and Al's Incredible Toons. What's awkward is the package shape -- the package consists of two separable pieces that form a misshapen cartoonish TV set. Not only is it not nicely orthagonal, it's also fragile. (Incidentally, I have a duplicate set of trading cards and the poster for this, but I don't have the manual -- I'd like the manual to form a complete set. Oh, if you're a fan of the Incredible Machine series, this is a must-own.) If I had a Starcross saucer, that would probably make the list too, but since I don't, it doesn't. Any other awkward games of interest out there? -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
