t-and-f: U.S. WOMEN'S 400-METER RELAY TEAM SET
U.S. WOMEN'S 400-METER RELAY TEAM SET BRISBANE, Australia (AP) - Barring any unforeseen circumstances, the U.S. women's 400-meter relay team for the Olympic final will consist of Chryste Gaines, Gail Devers, Inger Miller and Marion Jones. That foursome has yet to run together, but women's team coach Karen Dennis, who was with the team's sprinters during a recent European swing, said Thursday the plan was to run that group Sept. 30. Gaines, Devers, Miller and Jones were scheduled to run at Brussels on Aug. 25, but the race was canceled. Dennis said there still was plenty of time for the final four to work together. Each of the four also will compete in individual events at the games -- Jones in the 100 and 200 meters and long jump, Miller in the 100 and 200, Devers in the 100 hurdles, and Gaines in the 100. Dennis said she had not yet decided about her final lineup for the 1,600 relay, also to be run Sept. 30. *** For the full story, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569535598-317
t-and-f: Italy in Sydney
Title: Italy in Sydney Hi all, does anybody have any information who's gonna compete for Italy in Sydney? Tomas Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: net storytelling
What if an Olympic athlete tells someone how they feel, and someone prints that on the net? Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: net storytelling
What if an Olympic athlete tells someone how they feel, and someone prints that on the net? Schiefer People tell other people stuff, and these other people then print that stuff. That's what we usually call 'journalism'. (No I don't know how the IOC is going to enforce their moratorium, though) Elliott Oti
t-and-f: FIN-SWE dual meet
Finland-Sweden Dual Helsinki, Finland 2-3 Sep Results taken from http://www.suomiruotsimaaottelu.fi/default.asp?Valinta=Tulokset (in Finish) 60th dual for men (1925-2000) Men Finland 194 Sweden 216 100m (2) wind: 0.0 1. Tommi Hartonen FIN 10,43 2. Kari Louramo FIN 10,54 3. Johan Engberg SWE 10,59 4. Matias Ghansah SWE 10,60 5. Torbjörn Mårtensson SWE 10,62 6. Tuomas Näsi FIN 10,69 200m (3) wind: -3.1 1. Tommi Hartonen FIN 21,20 2. Johan Engberg SWE 21,45 3. Kari Louramo FIN 21,51 4. Mattias Sunneborn SWE 21,58 5. Jimisola Laursen SWE 21,73 6. Tomas Johansson FIN 21,99 400m (2) 1. Jimisola Laursen SWE 45,95 2. Magnus Aare SWE 46,21 3. Johan Wissman SWE 47,60 4. Juha Yli-Arvela FIN 47,97 5. Esa Valaja FIN 48,01 6. Tomas Johansson FIN 48,72 800m (2) 1. Wilson Kirwa FIN 1.46,65 2. Juha Kukkamo FIN 1.47,38 3. Rizak Dirshe SWE 1.48,00 4. Antti Vasala FIN 1.48,69 5. Birger Ohlsson SWE 1.50,24 6. Fredrik Kjellberg SWE 1.50,53 1500m (3) 1. Patrik Johansson SWE 3.44,33 2. Jari Matinlauri FIN 3.44,36 3. Mattias Norling SWE 3.44,94 4. Wilson Kirwa FIN 3.45,01 5. Mikael Öhman SWE 3.49,29 6. Antti Vasala FIN 3.51,36 5000m (2) 1. Kent Claesson SWE 13.54,97 2. Erik Sjöqvist SWE 13.56,37 3. Santtu Mäkinen FIN 13.59,88 4. Janne Holmén FIN 14.01,55 5. Marko Kotila FIN 14.15,10 6. Joakim Johansson SWE 14.19,11 1m (3) 1. Claes Nyberg SWE 29.21,02 2. Janne Holmén FIN 29.21,60 3. Jussi Utriainen FIN 29.21,62 4. Erik Sjöqvist SWE 29.40,62 5. Ville Hautala FIN 29.52,30 6. Jonas Hagelin SWE 30.19,28 3000m steeplechase (3) 1. Kim Bergdahl FIN 8.40,35 2. Henrik Skoog SWE 8.42,19 3. Teppo Syrjälä FIN 8.49,38 4. Tuomo Lehtinen FIN 8.52,01 5. Per Jacobsen SWE 8.54,87 6. Björn Ahlepil SWE 9.26,25 110m hurdles (2) wind: -0.4 1. Robert Kronberg SWE 13,44 NR 2. Philip Nossmy SWE 13,63 NJR 3. Jarno Jokihaara FIN 13,85 4. Stefan Heinås SWE 14,01 5. Marko Ritola FIN 14,15 6. Joni Myllyntaus FIN 14,24 400m hurdles 1. Magnus Norberg SWE 50,86 2. Mikael Jakobsson SWE 51,09 3. Peter Andersson SWE 51,20 4. Janne Mäkelä FIN 51,41 5. Kimmo Haapasalo FIN 51,54 6. Riku-Pekka Rosenvall FIN 51,99 10km walk (2) 1. Jani Lehtinen FIN 41.58,56 2. Bo Gustafsson SWE 42.08,54 3. Bengt Bengtsson SWE 42.35,73 4. Fredrik Svensson SWE 43.16,74 5. Arto Matilainen FIN 44.37,69 6. Pekka Matilainen FIN 45.50,48 High jump (3) 1. Stefan Holm SWE 2.34 (2.18/O 2.24/O 2.28/O 2.34/xO 2.37/XXX) 2. Staffan Strand SWE 2.26 3. Oskari Frösén FIN 2.24 4. Mika Polku FIN 2.24 5. Toni Huikuri FIN 2.21 6. Jan-Erik Wanhainen SWE 2.10 Pole vault (2) 1. Patrik Kristiansson SWE 5.70 2. Martin Eriksson SWE 5.60 3. Oscar Janson SWE 5.55 4. Vesa Rantanen FIN 5.50 5. Jussi Autio FIN 5.40 6. Ariel Mäki-Soini FIN 5.30 Long jump (2) 1. Mattias Sunneborn SWE 7.72/+0.5 2. Peter Häggström SWE 7.72/-0.2 3. Tommi Evilä FIN 7.69/+1.2 4. Simon Sundsten FIN 7.58/+0.5 5. Anton Andersson SWE 7.52/+0.4 6. Jari Olli FIN 7.26/+1.7 Triple jump (3) 1. Christian Olsson SWE 16.89/+0.7 (16.35 - 16.89 - 16.76 - 16.39 - 16.51 - 16.67w) 2. Magnus Skoglund SWE 15.83/+1.2 3. Conny Malm SWE 15.73/-0.7 4. Marko Siurua FIN 15.46/+2.2 (15.34/+0.6) 5. Pasi Takki FIN 15.27/+1.2 6. Antti Rintakoski FIN 15.06/+0.3 Shot put (3) 1. Arsi Harju FIN 20.50 2. Timo Aaltonen FIN 20.14 3. Ville Tiisanoja FIN 19.55 4. Jimmy Nordin SWE 18.55 5. Andreas Gustafsson SWE 18.46 6. Andreas Holmström SWE 18.39 Discus throw (3) 1. Pertti Hynni FIN 62.05 2. Timo Tompuri FIN 62.03 3. Mattias Borrman SWE 60.62 4. Petri Hakala FIN 58.06 5. Kristian Pettersson SWE 57.95 6. Henrik Wennberg SWE 57.29 Hammer throw (2) 1. Olli-Pekka Karjalainen FIN 79.09 2. Bengt Johansson SWE 73.99 3. Per Karlsson SWE 72.94 4. Samu-Petri Simo FIN 72.64 5. Marko Wahlman FIN 70.51 6. Svante Söderlund SWE 63.50 Javelin throw (2) 1. Aki Parviainen FIN 85.20 2. Harri Hakkarainen FIN 82.36 3. Juha Laukkanen FIN 75.76 4. Mikael Snällfot SWE 73.12 5. Daniel Ragnvaldsson SWE 69.72 6. Mattias Eriksson SWE 64.50 4x100m (2) 1. Sweden 39,52 (Torbjörn Mårtensson, Mattias Ghansah, Mikael Ahl, Johan Engberg) 2. Finland 39,87 (Topi Valtanen, Kari Louramo, Stefan Koivikko, Tuomas Näsi) 4x400m (3) 1. Sweden 3.09,43 (Magnus Aare 46,9, Johan Wissman 48,4, Mattias Sunneborn 47,3, Jimisola Laursen 46,9) 2. Finland 3.15,02 (Juha Yli-Arvela 48,3, Esa Valaja 48,8, Kimmo Haapasalo 48,8, Thomas Asp 48,9) 37th dual for women (1964-2000) Women Finland 219 Sweden 191 100m (2) wind: -0.1 1. Heidi Hannula FIN 11.51 2. Johanna Manninen FIN 11.55 3. Susanna Kallur SWE 11.63 4. Annika Amundin SWE 11.64 5. Sanna Kyllönen FIN 11.66 6. Jenny Kallur SWE 11.82 200m (3) wind: -2.5 1. Johanna Manninen FIN 23,73 2. Jenny Kallur SWE 24,19 3. Annika Amundin SWE 24,42 4. Petra Söderström FIN 24,48 5. Anja Rantanen FIN 24,55 6. Linda Hansson SWE 25,20 400m (2) 1. Anja Rantanen FIN 53,49 2. Monica Lundgren SWE 53,55 3. Nadja Petersen SWE 53,72 4. Linda Olsson SWE 54,32 5. Suvi Myllymäki FIN 54,56 6. Minna Kallio FIN 55,36 800m (3) 1. Linda Olsson SWE 2.04,27 2. Tytti Reho FIN
t-and-f: SURVIVOR--throwers join distance runners....
... and sprinters. Lance Deal an overwhelming choice for being bounced.
t-and-f: Brent McFarlane
If anyone knows of an email address or snail mail address or phone number on Canadian Coach Brent McFarlane, could you please contact me off list, please? Yours in track, Mike Cunningham Head Track and Field/CC Coach Neosho County Community College (316) 431-2820 Ext. 272 www.neosho.cc.ks.us/athletic/track/track.htm _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
t-and-f: minimum qualifying times?
Does anyone know the minimum qualifying times for the 100 meters and 200 meters? Also, does anyone know where on the Net one could find a list of qualifiers for the Olympics for various track events? -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 :: [fax] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com
t-and-f: Trivia Question - U.S. Interest
Trivia Question: Which U.S. T F Olympian has appeared on the most magazine covers? I don't know the answer, but this week alone, I have received 3 magazines with Marion Jones on the cover: Time, Newsweek, T FN. Joe Joe Rody PSA 424 Department of Mathematics (480) 965-6440 Arizona State University P.O. Box 871804 http://math.la.asu.edu/~joe Tempe, AZ 85287-1804
Re: t-and-f: Drugs seized at Olympics - another PR disaster
In a message dated 9/7/00 1:16:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do away with the whole testing charade, and, voila, the sport is instantly "pure" and impervious to "drug scandals". amen, brother
t-and-f: FIN-SWE dual meet
Finland-Sweden Dual Helsinki, Finland 2-3/9 Results taken from http://www.suomiruotsimaaottelu.fi/default.asp?Valinta=Tulokset (in Finish) 60th dual for men (1925-2000) Men Finland 194 Sweden 216 100m (2) wind: 0.0 1. Tommi Hartonen FIN 10,43 2. Kari Louramo FIN 10,54 3. Johan Engberg SWE 10,59 4. Matias Ghansah SWE 10,60 5. Torbjörn Mårtensson SWE 10,62 6. Tuomas Näsi FIN 10,69 200m (3) wind: -3.1 1. Tommi Hartonen FIN 21,20 2. Johan Engberg SWE 21,45 3. Kari Louramo FIN 21,51 4. Mattias Sunneborn SWE 21,58 5. Jimisola Laursen SWE 21,73 6. Tomas Johansson FIN 21,99 400m (2) 1. Jimisola Laursen SWE 45,95 2. Magnus Aare SWE 46,21 3. Johan Wissman SWE 47,60 4. Juha Yli-Arvela FIN 47,97 5. Esa Valaja FIN 48,01 6. Tomas Johansson FIN 48,72 800m (2) 1. Wilson Kirwa FIN 1.46,65 2. Juha Kukkamo FIN 1.47,38 3. Rizak Dirshe SWE 1.48,00 4. Antti Vasala FIN 1.48,69 5. Birger Ohlsson SWE 1.50,24 6. Fredrik Kjellberg SWE 1.50,53 1500m (3) 1. Patrik Johansson SWE 3.44,33 2. Jari Matinlauri FIN 3.44,36 3. Mattias Norling SWE 3.44,94 4. Wilson Kirwa FIN 3.45,01 5. Mikael Öhman SWE 3.49,29 6. Antti Vasala FIN 3.51,36 5000m (2) 1. Kent Claesson SWE 13.54,97 2. Erik Sjöqvist SWE 13.56,37 3. Santtu Mäkinen FIN 13.59,88 4. Janne Holmén FIN 14.01,55 5. Marko Kotila FIN 14.15,10 6. Joakim Johansson SWE 14.19,11 1m (3) 1. Claes Nyberg SWE 29.21,02 2. Janne Holmén FIN 29.21,60 3. Jussi Utriainen FIN 29.21,62 4. Erik Sjöqvist SWE 29.40,62 5. Ville Hautala FIN 29.52,30 6. Jonas Hagelin SWE 30.19,28 3000m steeplechase (3) 1. Kim Bergdahl FIN 8.40,35 2. Henrik Skoog SWE 8.42,19 3. Teppo Syrjälä FIN 8.49,38 4. Tuomo Lehtinen FIN 8.52,01 5. Per Jacobsen SWE 8.54,87 6. Björn Ahlepil SWE 9.26,25 110m hurdles (2) wind: -0.4 1. Robert Kronberg SWE 13,44 NR 2. Philip Nossmy SWE 13,63 NJR 3. Jarno Jokihaara FIN 13,85 4. Stefan Heinås SWE 14,01 5. Marko Ritola FIN 14,15 6. Joni Myllyntaus FIN 14,24 400m hurdles 1. Magnus Norberg SWE 50,86 2. Mikael Jakobsson SWE 51,09 3. Peter Andersson SWE 51,20 4. Janne Mäkelä FIN 51,41 5. Kimmo Haapasalo FIN 51,54 6. Riku-Pekka Rosenvall FIN 51,99 10km walk (2) 1. Jani Lehtinen FIN 41.58,56 2. Bo Gustafsson SWE 42.08,54 3. Bengt Bengtsson SWE 42.35,73 4. Fredrik Svensson SWE 43.16,74 5. Arto Matilainen FIN 44.37,69 6. Pekka Matilainen FIN 45.50,48 High jump (3) 1. Stefan Holm SWE 2.34 (2.18/O 2.24/O 2.28/O 2.34/xO 2.37/XXX) 2. Staffan Strand SWE 2.26 3. Oskari Frösén FIN 2.24 4. Mika Polku FIN 2.24 5. Toni Huikuri FIN 2.21 6. Jan-Erik Wanhainen SWE 2.10 Pole vault (2) 1. Patrik Kristiansson SWE 5.70 2. Martin Eriksson SWE 5.60 3. Oscar Janson SWE 5.55 4. Vesa Rantanen FIN 5.50 5. Jussi Autio FIN 5.40 6. Ariel Mäki-Soini FIN 5.30 Long jump (2) 1. Mattias Sunneborn SWE 7.72/+0.5 2. Peter Häggström SWE 7.72/-0.2 3. Tommi Evilä FIN 7.69/+1.2 4. Simon Sundsten FIN 7.58/+0.5 5. Anton Andersson SWE 7.52/+0.4 6. Jari Olli FIN 7.26/+1.7 Triple jump (3) 1. Christian Olsson SWE 16.89/+0.7 (16.35 - 16.89 - 16.76 - 16.39 - 16.51 - 16.67w) 2. Magnus Skoglund SWE 15.83/+1.2 3. Conny Malm SWE 15.73/-0.7 4. Marko Siurua FIN 15.46/+2.2 (15.34/+0.6) 5. Pasi Takki FIN 15.27/+1.2 6. Antti Rintakoski FIN 15.06/+0.3 Shot put (3) 1. Arsi Harju FIN 20.50 2. Timo Aaltonen FIN 20.14 3. Ville Tiisanoja FIN 19.55 4. Jimmy Nordin SWE 18.55 5. Andreas Gustafsson SWE 18.46 6. Andreas Holmström SWE 18.39 Discus throw (3) 1. Pertti Hynni FIN 62.05 2. Timo Tompuri FIN 62.03 3. Mattias Borrman SWE 60.62 4. Petri Hakala FIN 58.06 5. Kristian Pettersson SWE 57.95 6. Henrik Wennberg SWE 57.29 Hammer throw (2) 1. Olli-Pekka Karjalainen FIN 79.09 2. Bengt Johansson SWE 73.99 3. Per Karlsson SWE 72.94 4. Samu-Petri Simo FIN 72.64 5. Marko Wahlman FIN 70.51 6. Svante Söderlund SWE 63.50 Javelin throw (2) 1. Aki Parviainen FIN 85.20 2. Harri Hakkarainen FIN 82.36 3. Juha Laukkanen FIN 75.76 4. Mikael Snällfot SWE 73.12 5. Daniel Ragnvaldsson SWE 69.72 6. Mattias Eriksson SWE 64.50 4x100m (2) 1. Sweden 39,52 (Torbjörn Mårtensson, Mattias Ghansah, Mikael Ahl, Johan Engberg) 2. Finland 39,87 (Topi Valtanen, Kari Louramo, Stefan Koivikko, Tuomas Näsi) 4x400m (3) 1. Sweden 3.09,43 (Magnus Aare 46,9, Johan Wissman 48,4, Mattias Sunneborn 47,3, Jimisola Laursen 46,9) 2. Finland 3.15,02 (Juha Yli-Arvela 48,3, Esa Valaja 48,8, Kimmo Haapasalo 48,8, Thomas Asp 48,9) 37th dual for women (1964-2000) Women Finland 219 Sweden 191 100m (2) wind: -0.1 1. Heidi Hannula FIN 11.51 2. Johanna Manninen FIN 11.55 3. Susanna Kallur SWE 11.63 4. Annika Amundin SWE 11.64 5. Sanna Kyllönen FIN 11.66 6. Jenny Kallur SWE 11.82 200m (3) wind: -2.5 1. Johanna Manninen FIN 23,73 2. Jenny Kallur SWE 24,19 3. Annika Amundin SWE 24,42 4. Petra Söderström FIN 24,48 5. Anja Rantanen FIN 24,55 6. Linda Hansson SWE 25,20 400m (2) 1. Anja Rantanen FIN 53,49 2. Monica Lundgren SWE 53,55 3. Nadja Petersen SWE 53,72 4. Linda Olsson SWE 54,32 5. Suvi Myllymäki FIN 54,56 6. Minna Kallio FIN 55,36 800m (3) 1. Linda Olsson SWE 2.04,27 2. Tytti Reho FIN
Re: t-and-f: Trivia Question - U.S. Interest
Joe asked: Trivia Question: Which U.S. T F Olympian has appeared on the most magazine covers? I don't know the answer, but this week alone, I have received 3 magazines with Marion Jones on the cover: Time, Newsweek, T FN. Joe I don't know if it is a record, but Suzy Favor Hamilton features 17 cover photos on her website. The 17 photos come from about 10 different publications with multiple covers from Runners World and TF News. You can see them and many other photos at: http://www.suzyhamilton.com/images/photos/model02.jpg Kurt Bray _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: t-and-f: Trivia Question - U.S. Interest
Joe asked: Trivia Question: Which U.S. T F Olympian has appeared on the most magazine covers? I don't know the answer, but this week alone, I have received 3 magazines with Marion Jones on the cover: Time, Newsweek, T FN. Joe I don't know the answer for sure, but I would have to imagine that if he isn't the one he would have to be close and that is Carl Lewis .. Just his TFN covers should put him close .. And I know he was on covers of magazines all over the world .. And had about 15 years to amass a total .. Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Kenyan's Shut Out?
In a message dated 9/7/00 4:22:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When are TF News picks going to be posted on their Web Site? Easy! When we're sure we'll get it right! :-) for now, you'll just have to buy a copy of the October issue (oops, is that a plug?) gh
RE: t-and-f: Kenyan's Shut Out?
You really believe that Tergat will finally beat his nemesis? I don't think so. Kenya's best shot of avoiding the Gold Medal shut-out (which is what the thread is about) is still the steeplechase. malmo In a message dated 9/7/00 4:22:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the 1, you have to think Geb is still going to win. Based on recent championship results you have to pick the Iberian runners over the Kenyans in the marathon. since they switched Tergat to the 10? I don't think so. gh
t-and-f: World Shot Put Champ Hunter Might Miss Olympics
World Shot Put Champ Hunter Might Miss Olympics By GENE CHERRY .c Reuters RALEIGH, N.C. (Sept. 6) -- World shot put champion C.J. Hunter has undergone arthroscopic surgery for torn knee cartilage, jeopardizing his participation in the Sydney Olympics. "It's day-to-day,'' Hunter, the husband of superstar Marion Jones, said in an interview at North Carolina State University on Wednesday. "I'll be there Sydney, but the question is, how much can I do.'' Hunter, one of the Sydney favorites, said he suffered a torn lateral meniscus in his left knee while lifting weights in London in early August. He did not realize the extent of the injury until the knee gave out at the Brussels grand prix meeting. He had the knee examined in Berlin and surgery was scheduled for Sunday, the day after he and Jones returned to the United States from competitions in Europe. ..
Re: t-and-f: Ron Dayne returning to track?
Hopefully Dayne will return to competition in a very public way... and get soundly trounced by the top throwers out there. This would be great publicity. The American public thinks of football players as the strongest, most powerful athletes out there. If Dayne couldn't compete maybe people would take a step back and think, "Whoa, these field guys are pretty damn impressive!" Seeing a shot, disc, hammer or javelin go far is one thing, but seeing it go a lot farther than an "established" athlete can throw it is something that gives relevance to those who do not know the sport well. Perhaps the top US throwers should issue a challenge to the NFL... Paul On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Reuben Frank wrote: New York Giants rookie running back Ron Dayne, the 1999 Heisman Trophy winner and all-time NCAA rushing leader, told me today he is considering returning to competition in the discus during the NFL offseason. Dayne, the No. 3 all-time US prep at 216-11 (HS implement) for Overbrook HS in Pine Hill, N.J. in 1996, retired from the weights after high school and never picked up a discus in four years at the University of Wisconsin. "I know I can still throw it," Dayne said. Ed Grant might correct me on this, but I don't believe Ron has ever gotten a legal mark with the 4 lb, 6-4 oz., plate. Reuben Frank = "This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government." __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ *** Paul Talbot Department of Geography/ Institute of Behavioral Science University of Colorado, Boulder Boulder CO 80309-0260 (303) 492-3248 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Ron Dayne returning to track?
That would almost certainly backfire. Randy Barnes didn't fare too well with his tryout with the Niners (inspired by Michael Carter, I believe), and he was at the top of the sport at the time. With the publicity machine that the NFL is, it would only take one person saying, "sure, we'll compete in a throwing event if you strap on some cleats and take a few hits," and suddenly all people would see is how bad the tf'ers are at "real" sports. Dan --- "P.F.Talbot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully Dayne will return to competition in a very public way... and get soundly trounced by the top throwers out there. This would be great publicity. The American public thinks of football players as the strongest, most powerful athletes out there. If Dayne couldn't compete maybe people would take a step back and think, "Whoa, these field guys are pretty damn impressive!" Seeing a shot, disc, hammer or javelin go far is one thing, but seeing it go a lot farther than an "established" athlete can throw it is something that gives relevance to those who do not know the sport well. Perhaps the top US throwers should issue a challenge to the NFL... = http://AbleDesign.com - AbleDesign, Web Design that Can! http://Run-Down.com - 8,000 Running Links, Free Contests... @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Drugs seized at Olympics - another PR disaster
Who says there has to be any connection between the elite sport and the lower level "recreational" sport? Would you not allow your son to play youth football becuase he might be tempted to use drugs on the off chance he makes it to the NFL? The health (i.e. popularity) of the sport at the top is what allows the lower levels to thrive. There may be some trickle down drug use, but with virtually no testing at the non-professional levels, I seriously doubt it would make much difference. That said, I've never quite decided where I stand on the issue... Dan --- "R.T." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PURE All right, before this goes any further, if that ever happened, it would become ABSOLUTELY impossible to effectively compete without going on the stuff, and I would never recommend the sport to a single young person. In fact, I would actively DISCOURAGE anybody from having anything to do with track field. It's absolutely at odds with everything else I preach to my son about respect for his own body and taking care of himself- why would I encourage anybody else to do something I couldn't honestly recommend to my own son? Count me out- you can have whatever shell of a "sport" remains. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels this way, and we may actually be in the majority. That's the one thing that separates our sport from the so-called "professional" sports like football. I don't really care if it lacks the public spectator popularity, (although lack of same probably keeps TFN subscriptions down), it's something I can believe in as a healthy activity which BUILDS a young person, not destroys them like football. The Romans loved their gladiator spectacles, but we would consider it morally unacceptable today. You want to cross the line back in the direction of professional gladiators? Why don't we bring back the institution of slavery while we're at it? RT = http://AbleDesign.com - AbleDesign, Web Design that Can! http://Run-Down.com - 8,000 Running Links, Free Contests... @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Kenyan's Shut Out?
I think it's been more or less a consensus for some time now that the Kenyan's have consistently the most top level distance runners, but are almost always second fiddle to a single freak of nature from one of the other neighboring countries. Does that seem odd to anyone? So much for a large pool of talent improving the odds of having the top dog. Dan --- John Molvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite all the constant raving about the indisputable depth of the Kenyan distance runners, if one does an event by event breakdown of all the events, it is quite possible that the Kenyan men could leave Sydney without a single gold medal. Kenyan born Kipketer looks beatable by at least the Swiss and the Algerian in the 800. Although El G is not close to his previous best, he is favored to win the 1500. In the steeple another North African could win gold. In the 5000, the Kenyans could be shut out of all the medals with the 20 year old Algerian, Mohorit, and Lalafi. In the 1, you have to think Geb is still going to win. Based on recent championship results you have to pick the Iberian runners over the Kenyans in the marathon. It could be a shutout. As a group, the Arabs seem to have better prospects than the Kenyans. Has anyone else noticed? When are TF News picks going to be posted on their Web Site? = http://AbleDesign.com - AbleDesign, Web Design that Can! http://Run-Down.com - 8,000 Running Links, Free Contests... @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Kenyan's Shut Out?
However, most of those people keeping the US off the top level of the podium are of Jamaican birth, so it's still pretty much a case of a large talent pool delivering the top individuals. Dan --- Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure it is any odder than the US dominating the sprints depth-wise but we didn't win the 100 gold in 92 or 93 or 95 or 96 .. Or the 200 gold in 93 .. Depth gives you better odds of winning the top spot, but doesn't necessarily guarantee it .. If depth of and in itself were the key then the US should be gold medal locks in the speed events .. Including the long jump .. We still have the depth in the long jump but lack the top talent consistency lets say .. And while I wouldn't consider either Linford Christie, Donovan Bailey or Frank Fredericks "freaks of nature", in each instance they were clearly better than what we put on the track in spite of our depth .. Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://AbleDesign.com - AbleDesign, Web Design that Can! http://Run-Down.com - 8,000 Running Links, Free Contests... @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
t-and-f: Olympic athlete killed in accident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/olympics2000/athletics-track/newsid_915000/915261.stm An Olympic athlete has been killed in a road accident in Sydney. Nigerian runner Hyginus Anugo was fatally injured in a collision with a car near the Olympic precinct. Anugo, who was 22, was due to run in the 400m and was also a reserve for the relay team. It was first thought that a Nigerian Olympic official was the victim, but it was later confirmed Anugo had been killed while crossing a road. Nigerian Athletics Federation president Oluyomi Adeyemi-Wilson paid tribute to Anugo. "The news about Anugo's death was broken to the federation this afternoon by our secretary, who called from the Nigerian Olympic camp in Sydney," he said. "It is very sad indeed. This has never happened in the history of this country." Anugo was considered a promising young 200m and 400m runner and had participated in the World Junior Championships in 1996 in Sydney. "He was a very quiet person, an easy-going person," Nigerian coach Brown Ebewele said. "When the news got to us, everybody was shocked."
t-and-f: Logan A Standard
Netters, The IAAF web page has Jud Logan listed with an A Standard mark of 75.62 from a meet in Rüdlingen (GER?) on 13 08 2000. Was this mark reported to this list? If so I must have missed it. Good to see Jud qualify. -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com "Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated..." - Coach Bill Sudeck
t-and-f: Track History in L.A.
It's a few months old, but here's a nice retrospective of track field in Los Angeles: http://www.latimes.com/sports/reports/2000/track.htm RT
t-and-f: M800 World Vets Record
Word is that Colin Rothery, European Vets Champion, ran 1:50.69 when placing 2nd in a BMC race at Stretford on Tuesday night (5th Sept). Colin was born in Jan 1960 and only took up athletics last year - and his time is actually his lifetime pb! Matthew Fraser Moat Vice Chairman BMC
t-and-f: Khannouchi and Williams in Syracuse
Khalid Khannouchi, the world record holder in the marathon, and Todd Williams, one of the country's best 10,000-meter runners, will lead a fast field of non-olympians in an attempt at the US 5K road record at the Syracuse Festival of Races on October 1. Unlike the Olympic Marathon run the same day in Sydney, that noone in the US can watch live, Khannouchi's race in Syracuse will be broadcast live on the web in streaming video at TrackMeets.com. DR KAMAL JABBOUR - Engineer, Educator, Runner, WriterO o 2-222 Center for Science and Technology /|\/ |\ Syracuse University, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 | | Phone 315-443-3000, Fax 315-443-2583 __/ \ \/ \ http://running.syr.edu/jabbour.html\ \
t-and-f: Kenyan's Shut Out?
Despite all the constant raving about the indisputable depth of the Kenyan distance runners, if one does an event by event breakdown of all the events, it is quite possible that the Kenyan men could leave Sydney without a single gold medal. Kenyan born Kipketer looks beatable by at least the Swiss and the Algerian in the 800. Although El G is not close to his previous best, he is favored to win the 1500. In the steeple another North African could win gold. In the 5000, the Kenyans could be shut out of all the medals with the 20 year old Algerian, Mohorit, and Lalafi. In the 1, you have to think Geb is still going to win. Based on recent championship results you have to pick the Iberian runners over the Kenyans in the marathon. It could be a shutout. As a group, the Arabs seem to have better prospects than the Kenyans. Has anyone else noticed? When are TF News picks going to be posted on their Web Site? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
t-and-f: geting us back to the Olympic prediction thang
Here's some more half-assed prognostications: Women's 100m: 1. Jones, for gold medal no.1 (the biggest certainty of her five events) 2. Ottey, presuming she gets a run, for her most impressive Olympic showing and a big story 3. Thanou, been in hiding but ran fast early on 4. Miller, better over 200m 5. Ferguson 6. Pintusevich-Block 7. Arron, after terrible start 8. Sturrup Time: 10.69 Women's 200m 1. Jones, may be tiring by now, with LJ distractions 2. Miller, will run a tiring Jones close 3. Ferguson 4. Freeman, in new Australian record 5. Gainsford-Taylor 6. Perry 7. Davis-Thompson 8. Jayasinghe (or Hewitt for three aussies) Time 21.89 Women's 400m 1. Freeman, and the stadium will roar 2. Merry, let's see if linford has her tapered right 3. Guevara, strong 4. Nazarova, darkhorse, could be biggest threat 5. Colander-Richardson, peaked two months ago 6. Ogunkoya 7. Graham 8. Collins Time 49.20 (and much quicker if Perec turns up) Women's 800m 1. Mutola, finally 2. Formanova 3. Miles-Clark, needs more races 4. Graf 5. Tsyganova 6.Tamsyn Lewis, because Coach Peter Fortune (also Cathy freeman's coach) knows what he's doing, and because she runs for Bayside, and because she does have 51s speed and a lot of fighting ability 7. Raspopova 8. Vriesde, because she's always there Time 1.56.98 Women's 1500m 1. Masterkova, maybe... this event is so wide open 2. Jacobs, underraced as always, but is so impressive when on song 3. Favor-Hamilton, why not? 4. Beclea-Szekely 5. Crowley, was 5th in Atlanta, has been off and had a baby, peaking at right time again 6. Dulecha 7. Rogachova 8. Sacramento Time 3.59.95 because it might make a difference to this whole "five golds" thing (although i actually think the 4x4 is as bigger a worry - beware the russians) Women's Long-Jump 1. Kotova, produced a lot of clutch jumps in Golden League this season 2. May, love her to win after she was robbed last year, but she hasn't really got it together 3. Drechsler, and another medal in 2004... 4. Jones, unlike most, i admire her for putting her neck on the line, but her technique is still worse than most 12 year olds 5. Kravets 6. Burrell 7. Johansson 8. Barber? Distance 7.14m And for symmetry's sake Men's Long Jump 1. Beckford, best of an inconsistent bunch 2. Pedroso, dropped form in past month or two 3. Burge, egged on by local crowd, Lamela style 4. Lamela, the big man's back 5. Sosunov, probably the form athlete 6. Lister 7. Taurima, although he's capable of anything from 1st-20th 8. Stringfellow, and goes out partying with Taurima afterwards Distance 8.35m André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
Re: t-and-f: World Shot Put Champ Hunter Might Miss Olympics
Don't the U.S. team coaches have the power to seek our an independent medical opinion and replace somebody with the 4th place Trials finisher if they think the chances of being ready to go in Sydney were nil? This news report was dated 9/6, before Sydney declarations had to be turned in. 4th place finisher Godina will already be there in Sydney anyway, right? RT On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:13:01 EDT, you wrote: World Shot Put Champ Hunter Might Miss Olympics By GENE CHERRY .c Reuters RALEIGH, N.C. (Sept. 6) -- World shot put champion C.J. Hunter has undergone arthroscopic surgery for torn knee cartilage, jeopardizing his participation in the Sydney Olympics. "It's day-to-day,'' Hunter, the husband of superstar Marion Jones, said in an interview at North Carolina State University on Wednesday. "I'll be there Sydney, but the question is, how much can I do.'' Hunter, one of the Sydney favorites, said he suffered a torn lateral meniscus in his left knee while lifting weights in London in early August. He did not realize the extent of the injury until the knee gave out at the Brussels grand prix meeting. He had the knee examined in Berlin and surgery was scheduled for Sunday, the day after he and Jones returned to the United States from competitions in Europe. ..
t-and-f: Now I Know why GH wants to legalize drugs!
Just got a junk e-mail which opened this way: Released by your own pituitary gland, GH starts declining in your 20s, even more in your 30s and 40s, eventually resulting in the shrinkage of major organs plus all other symptoms related to old age. (sorry GH:-) RT
t-and-f: Rival's injury gives Lewis upper hand
Electronic Telegraph Friday 8 September 2000 Tom Knight DENISE LEWIS arrived here yesterday to be greeted with the news that her biggest rival for the Olympic gold medal is suffering major injury problems. Eunice Barber, the Frenchwoman who beat Lewis to the world title in Seville last year, withdrew from a recent competition in her home town of Reims, complaining of a thigh injury. It is the latest injury scare to hit the Sierra Leone-born athlete since she went to the top of the world rankings after scoring 6,842 points in a heptathlon in Gotzis in May. She has barely competed since and pulled out of last week's final Golden League meeting in Berlin because of problems with a sciatic nerve. After withdrawing from the Reims meeting, she said: "I don't feel very good. I am still suffering from the pain in my thigh." In Nantes last week she managed only 6.06 metres in the long jump, almost a metre shy of her French record, and a paltry 40.79m in the javelin. But Barber, 25, insisted she would be in Sydney. For most of the year it has been Lewis who has been suffering injury problems. But after undergoing knee surgery earlier in the year she emerged to break her own British record by winning the Decastar competition in France at the end of July. Lewis will finalise her preparations, not with the British team in Surfers' Paradise but in Brisbane, where she is staying with her Dutch coach, Charles van Commonee. Meanwhile, Colin Jackson, who with triple jumper Jonathan Edwards is Britain's other main gold medal hope, is training with the rest of the national squad at the Griffith University here. Injury problems have reduced Jackson's season to a handful of races, but he goes into the Olympics as world record holder and world champion and has been tipped by his coach to claim the only title to have eluded him in his 14-year career at the top. Malcolm Arnold, who has coached Jackson, 33, since he was a youngster, said: "I cannot envisage Colin losing. He always competes well on the big occasion. He is in better shape now than in Seville last year. "Colin's major asset is that he can compete well. We do not worry about his rivals, we just get on with it. He will have four races in Sydney and I believe the last of those will see him crowned Olympic champion." Eamonn Condon WWW.RunnersGoal.com
Re: t-and-f: World Shot Put Champ Hunter Might Miss Olympics
Got this explanation of the procedure from Mike. Of course all of this supposition assumes that Godina would be willing and ready to enter. After his horrible year in the SP (in comparison to prior years) and the possibility that he might have dropped all SP-specific training after the Trials to concentrate on the DT, who knows? On the other hand, the temptation of a likely medal to go next to his Atlanta silver might be too much for big John to pass up! After all, even his sub-par year will likely still leave him ranked #4 or #5 in the world, so you'd think he's a definite medal contender if C.J. can't throw. Randy -- I'd assume the medical staff has the power to examine any athlete and determine if the athlete is medically able to compete. That would certainly be their role, in addition to using whatever expertise and methods to get the athletes to that state. If Hunter is unable to compete, Godina can still replace him. The protocol for entries has a entry deadline about a month before the competition starts (August 23, I believe for the Games). At that time each country can enter FOUR names, ostensibly three to compete and an alternate. The three (assuming they have "A" qualifiers) then have to be declared for the actual competition two days prior to the first round of the event, meaning the decision on Hunter does not have to be made until September 19 or 20 (first round of the SP is 9/22, but the declarations are generally due early in morning of the scheduled day, so a decision on Hunter's status might have to be made the night before). In general, USOC does not send the alternates, but since Godina is already there to compete in the DT, he can be subsitituted. Mike Takaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "R.T." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: World Shot Put Champ Hunter Might Miss Olympics Don't the U.S. team coaches have the power to seek our an independent medical opinion and replace somebody with the 4th place Trials finisher if they think the chances of being ready to go in Sydney were nil? This news report was dated 9/6, before Sydney declarations had to be turned in. 4th place finisher Godina will already be there in Sydney anyway, right? RT On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:13:01 EDT, you wrote: World Shot Put Champ Hunter Might Miss Olympics By GENE CHERRY .c Reuters RALEIGH, N.C. (Sept. 6) -- World shot put champion C.J. Hunter has undergone arthroscopic surgery for torn knee cartilage, jeopardizing his participation in the Sydney Olympics. "It's day-to-day,'' Hunter, the husband of superstar Marion Jones, said in an interview at North Carolina State University on Wednesday. "I'll be there Sydney, but the question is, how much can I do.'' Hunter, one of the Sydney favorites, said he suffered a torn lateral meniscus in his left knee while lifting weights in London in early August. He did not realize the extent of the injury until the knee gave out at the Brussels grand prix meeting. He had the knee examined in Berlin and surgery was scheduled for Sunday, the day after he and Jones returned to the United States from competitions in Europe. ..
t-and-f: Baumann to run in BUPA Great North Run
Electronic Telegraph Friday 8 September 2000 Germany's former Olympic 5000m champion Dieter Baumann, whose case goes before the International Amateur Athletic Federation's drugs arbitration panel next week, intends running in this year's BUPA Great North Run. Baumann plans to make his half-marathon debut in the Newcastle to South Shields race on Oct 22. Already Hailie Gebrselassie, favourite to retain his Olympic 10,000m title, has confirmed he will run his first race over the distance, as has last year's London Marathon winner Antonio Pinto. Hungarian sprinters Judit Szekeres and Gabor Dobos were given two-year drug bans yesterday by the IAAF, world governing body. Eamonn Condon WWW.RunnersGoal.com
