Re: the latest thunderbird that you were able to read iwth the mouse keyswith

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

I have a copy of an old version that a kind lister sent me a while back, 
but I became discouraged as to just how it would be useful in the long 
run, because people who had tried moving back had problems with Mozilla 
updating the version to a current one despite setting the program not to 
update at all. Just didn't want to have to hassle with all of that 
noise, so never did it.



On 8/23/2015 7:05 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
I'm using version 31.6.0. I'm not sure if it's the latest wherein the 
mouse is still usable. But at least it works fine here.


I thought I had saved it but I just combed my data drive and it was 
nowhere to be found. So I asked the great Google God and got a link to 
the File Hippo site with it. Just watch out for junkware in the 
download like Chrome, IE tool bars, etc. I don't know if there are any 
because I didn't bother downloading it again but just wanted to warn you.


http://filehippo.com/download_thunderbird/60641/

Hth,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 1:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:

Likewise.  Would love the old installer!

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- Original Message - From: "Casey via Talk"

To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 12:24 AM
Subject: the latest thunderbird that you were able to read iwth the
mouse keyswith



Hi if someone has it.
Can they please send-me the last version of Thunderbird that you were
able to read with the mouse keys in window-eyes 9.0.
If someone can do that it would be A big help.
Also if I was to install it over my current one would it work to do 
that?



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RE: Reading a tool tip

[Bill Belew via Talk]

I thought I remembered that they changed things so the mouse pointer would
move automatically to a tooltip, allowing you to immediately press numpad
slash to activate the tooltip.  

Bill


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bill=mind@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 7:19 PM
To: 'Tom Kingston'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Reading a tool tip

Hi Tom

Forgive my ignorance of the double mouse to focus hot key performing a route
to tool tip, but could you please tell me where this is documented?

Thanks,

Rod

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Sent: August 23, 2015 8:59 PM
To: kitty hevener ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Reading a tool tip

Kitty,

In order to interact with a tool tip all you have to do is hit the Mouse 
to focus hot key twice. The default is Insert-Numpad-Plus. If it can't 
be done it will say, "Unable to route mouse to tool tip." If it does 
work it will say, "Mouse routed to tool tip," or something similar. Then 
you can left click on it with the Single click left button hot key, 
Numpad-Slash.

I give the names of these keys so if you're using the laptop layout you 
can simply look them up in the Window-Eyes control panel under Hot keys, 
Mouse.

Hth,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 7:44 PM, kitty hevener via Talk wrote:
> ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the
> numpad. I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but
> have not been able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd
> burning program tells me there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find
> a way to delete it on the tip.  Hope that makes sense.
>
> -Original Message- From: Wendy Alling via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Reading a tool tip
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
> Thanks,
> Wendy
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Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11

[michael's emails via Talk]

I get it happen all the time we just stops talking the short cut key always 
brigns we back but its anoying.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 9:14 AM
To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11

I hate to add my voice to this thread, but I am using Windows 7 64-Bit Pro,
ande I have chronic crashing of IE 11 and WE 9.2. Yes, I tried deleting
everything but my favorites, and it doesn't help. I have reset my setting
inIE as well.

-Original Message- 
From: Curtis Delzer via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:51 PM
To: Kathy Metters ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11

I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too,
with
this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the
silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . .
Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications,
bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link
listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to
type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE.
Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it
back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens
in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands.
Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start
menu,boom, crash or silence.  All I have for Internet or virus
protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what
comes with Windows 10, defender.
It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers,
WE consistently crashes.


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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:13:02 -0700
Kathy Metters via Talk  wrote:

 I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a  Windows 7 PC 
64-bit with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest 
version of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech 
back and I had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on 
with window eyes.


Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk 
>  wrote:

>
> Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11.
> Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more 
> losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1.  Control alt W brings speech 
> back

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Re: latest Thunderbird Firefoxand mouse keys

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

This is the same as the GW knowledge base article:
http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB1127
This worked until Mozilla broke it again.

Tom


On 8/23/2015 10:17 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,

I thought it would be worth trying the following info in an attempt to
have WE read the screen info in both Tbird and Firefox. Although the
steps were followed as shown below for Jaws,in my case, it had no affect
on the mouse keys and FF and TB.

It appears WE uses a different method of gaining the required info and
as a result, making the changes ineffective.  For all those programmers
amongst us, is there  anything which could be altered in the config file
to improve access to the screen?

For the time being, I'll leave the alterations and will only chage them
back if problems develop.  Booting the system made no difference either.

Neville.

TB and FF info for Jaws users:
On Windows Vista and Windows 7, Firefox and Thunderbird both use
Direct2D rendering by default. This prevents the JAWS cursor from
detecting information. Fortunately it is easy to disable this rendering.
You need to do it once for each version of Firefox and Thunderbird you
use on your system. To do this you need to set two configuration
variables to true: gfx.direct2d.disabled, and layers.acceleration.disabled.
Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter
about:config
  in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.

Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list of
options.

Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option
in the list. In this case, type gfx and press DOWN ARROW to
gfx.direct2d.disabled.

Assuming the option is set to false, press the APPLICATIONS KEY to open
the context menu and choose Toggle. This will change the option to true.

Go through the same process for layers.acceleration.disabled.

Close the Configuration Editor and restart Firefox or Thunderbird. The
JAWS cursor should now show content.

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Re: Reading a tool tip

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Just search the Window-Eyes manual for "Routing to Tooltips". It's under 
Window-Eyes features, Using the mouse. Below is the text.


Routing to Tooltips
Window-Eyes also allows you to route the mouse pointer to a tooltip. 
This feature is extremely useful when a balloon tool tip pops up in the 
system tray saying something like, "Click here to perform a task." For 
example, if you have automatic updates turned on and updates are 
available, a balloon tool tip may pop up in the system tray saying, 
"Updates for your computer have been downloaded from Windows Update. 
Click here to review these updates and install them." When you hear this 
message, press the Mouse to Focus hot key twice. Window-Eyes will say, 
"Pointer routed to tool tip," and the pointer will be placed in the 
center of the tool tip. At that  point, you can press the Single Click 
Left Button, which is Numpad-Slash by default, to perform the click that 
the balloon refers to.


Regards,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 10:19 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Tom

Forgive my ignorance of the double mouse to focus hot key performing a route
to tool tip, but could you please tell me where this is documented?

Thanks,

Rod

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Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 8:59 PM
To: kitty hevener ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Reading a tool tip

Kitty,

In order to interact with a tool tip all you have to do is hit the Mouse
to focus hot key twice. The default is Insert-Numpad-Plus. If it can't
be done it will say, "Unable to route mouse to tool tip." If it does
work it will say, "Mouse routed to tool tip," or something similar. Then
you can left click on it with the Single click left button hot key,
Numpad-Slash.

I give the names of these keys so if you're using the laptop layout you
can simply look them up in the Window-Eyes control panel under Hot keys,
Mouse.

Hth,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 7:44 PM, kitty hevener via Talk wrote:

ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the
numpad. I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but
have not been able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd
burning program tells me there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find
a way to delete it on the tip.  Hope that makes sense.

-Original Message- From: Wendy Alling via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Reading a tool tip

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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RE: Reading a tool tip

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Tom

Forgive my ignorance of the double mouse to focus hot key performing a route
to tool tip, but could you please tell me where this is documented?

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 8:59 PM
To: kitty hevener ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Reading a tool tip

Kitty,

In order to interact with a tool tip all you have to do is hit the Mouse 
to focus hot key twice. The default is Insert-Numpad-Plus. If it can't 
be done it will say, "Unable to route mouse to tool tip." If it does 
work it will say, "Mouse routed to tool tip," or something similar. Then 
you can left click on it with the Single click left button hot key, 
Numpad-Slash.

I give the names of these keys so if you're using the laptop layout you 
can simply look them up in the Window-Eyes control panel under Hot keys, 
Mouse.

Hth,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 7:44 PM, kitty hevener via Talk wrote:
> ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the
> numpad. I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but
> have not been able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd
> burning program tells me there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find
> a way to delete it on the tip.  Hope that makes sense.
>
> -Original Message- From: Wendy Alling via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Reading a tool tip
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
> Thanks,
> Wendy
>
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latest Thunderbird Firefoxand mouse keys

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,

I thought it would be worth trying the following info in an attempt to 
have WE read the screen info in both Tbird and Firefox. Although the 
steps were followed as shown below for Jaws,in my case, it had no affect 
on the mouse keys and FF and TB.


It appears WE uses a different method of gaining the required info and 
as a result, making the changes ineffective.  For all those programmers 
amongst us, is there  anything which could be altered in the config file 
to improve access to the screen?


For the time being, I'll leave the alterations and will only chage them 
back if problems develop.  Booting the system made no difference either.


Neville.

TB and FF info for Jaws users:
On Windows Vista and Windows 7, Firefox and Thunderbird both use 
Direct2D rendering by default. This prevents the JAWS cursor from 
detecting information. Fortunately it is easy to disable this 
rendering. You need to do it once for each version of Firefox and 
Thunderbird you use on your system. To do this you need to set two 
configuration variables to true: gfx.direct2d.disabled, and 
layers.acceleration.disabled.

Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter
about:config
 in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate 
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.


Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list of 
options.


Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the 
first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option 
in the list. In this case, type gfx and press DOWN ARROW to 
gfx.direct2d.disabled.


Assuming the option is set to false, press the APPLICATIONS KEY to open 
the context menu and choose Toggle. This will change the option to true.


Go through the same process for layers.acceleration.disabled.

Close the Configuration Editor and restart Firefox or Thunderbird. The 
JAWS cursor should now show content.


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Re: Reading a tool tip

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Kitty,

In order to interact with a tool tip all you have to do is hit the Mouse 
to focus hot key twice. The default is Insert-Numpad-Plus. If it can't 
be done it will say, "Unable to route mouse to tool tip." If it does 
work it will say, "Mouse routed to tool tip," or something similar. Then 
you can left click on it with the Single click left button hot key, 
Numpad-Slash.


I give the names of these keys so if you're using the laptop layout you 
can simply look them up in the Window-Eyes control panel under Hot keys, 
Mouse.


Hth,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 7:44 PM, kitty hevener via Talk wrote:

ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the
numpad. I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but
have not been able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd
burning program tells me there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find
a way to delete it on the tip.  Hope that makes sense.

-Original Message- From: Wendy Alling via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Reading a tool tip

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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RE: find and replace

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Lauren,

The Find and Replace dialog is initiated using Control-H.

Hth,

Rod

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Of Buntemeyer, Loren J. via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 3:40 PM
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Subject: find and replace

How do I find and replace a character or word in MS Word 10?

Loren
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Re: Reading a tool tip

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Sorry, one more thing, I have never been able to turn off the numpad 
since I purchased this computer 4 months ago.


On 8/23/2015 8:18 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi,

And the equivalent hot key in the laptop layout is Control-CapsLock-T.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of kitty hevener via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 7:44 PM
To: wendall...@comcast.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Reading a tool tip

ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the numpad.
I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but have not been
able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd burning program tells me

there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find a way to delete it on the
tip.  Hope that makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Alling via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Reading a tool tip

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: Reading a tool tip

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Speaking of the insert key, I am probably the only person in the world 
who hasn't been able to understand the uses of the insert key.  I have 
inadvertently turned it on and off so many time and tabbed through the 
focus and activate links without understanding what to do.  So are there 
any knowledge based articles on this subject?  I should also mention I 
am using a Dvorak keyboard for the left hand and the Windows Sticky-keys 
function to hold down the alt,shift and control keys.


On 8/23/2015 8:18 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi,

And the equivalent hot key in the laptop layout is Control-CapsLock-T.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of kitty hevener via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 7:44 PM
To: wendall...@comcast.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Reading a tool tip

ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the numpad.
I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but have not been
able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd burning program tells me

there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find a way to delete it on the
tip.  Hope that makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Alling via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Reading a tool tip

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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RE: Reading a tool tip

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Wendy,

So, in the desktop keyboard layout the hot key is Control-NumpadInsert-T and
in the laptop keyboard layout the hot key is Control-CapsLock-T.

Cheers,

Rod

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Of Wendy Alling via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 5:31 PM
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Subject: Reading a tool tip 

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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RE: Reading a tool tip

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi,

And the equivalent hot key in the laptop layout is Control-CapsLock-T.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of kitty hevener via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 7:44 PM
To: wendall...@comcast.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Reading a tool tip 

ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the numpad. 
I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but have not been 
able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd burning program tells me

there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find a way to delete it on the 
tip.  Hope that makes sense.

-Original Message- 
From: Wendy Alling via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Reading a tool tip

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: the latest thunderbird that you were able to read iwth the mouse keyswith

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I'm using version 31.6.0. I'm not sure if it's the latest wherein the 
mouse is still usable. But at least it works fine here.


I thought I had saved it but I just combed my data drive and it was 
nowhere to be found. So I asked the great Google God and got a link to 
the File Hippo site with it. Just watch out for junkware in the download 
like Chrome, IE tool bars, etc. I don't know if there are any because I 
didn't bother downloading it again but just wanted to warn you.


http://filehippo.com/download_thunderbird/60641/

Hth,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 1:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:

Likewise.  Would love the old installer!

Chris.
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- Original Message - From: "Casey via Talk"

To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 12:24 AM
Subject: the latest thunderbird that you were able to read iwth the
mouse keyswith



Hi if someone has it.
Can they please send-me the last version of Thunderbird that you were
able to read with the mouse keys in window-eyes 9.0.
If someone can do that it would be A big help.
Also if I was to install it over my current one would it work to do that?


--
Casey
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Re: Reading a tool tip

[kitty hevener via Talk]

ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the numpad. 
I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but have not been 
able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd burning program tells me 
there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find a way to delete it on the 
tip.  Hope that makes sense.


-Original Message- 
From: Wendy Alling via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Reading a tool tip

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 and chrome causing WE9.2 crashes with alt d

[manny via Talk]

Hi to all and Curtis in particular,
Thanks for posting, and I urge everyone with WE9.2 crashing or silence 
problem to post; so that this problem can be debugged.

Firstly all of the triggers mentioned by Curtis for causing WE9.2
to crash or go silent are also happening to me.  They are more frequent 
with windows 10 than with windows 7.

Also,   it usually it takes pressing a key twice to get things done.
to press a key twice to get it to respond.
For example, in Thunderbird for me to select an email from the inbox or 
to delete it, I need to press the key twice.
If I am reading an email and want to delete it, I need to press delete 
twice.


Yesterday I installed chrome onto both windows 7 and windows 10
and
pressing alt d causes WE9.2 to crash
-- Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding 
my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. 
** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** 
** computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.2 , Dell xps420 Windows 7 home 
premium, with dual boot to windows 10 with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad 
core drivers and software updated. Software recommended: Firefox, 
Thunderbird, security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, 
Win Patrol, Roboform, Ninite updater, and Driver buster (which you need 
sighted help because it is all graphic, but works great for updating 
drivers.)

On 8/23/2015 10:51 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:

I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too, with
this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the
silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . .
Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications,
bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link
listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to
type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE.
Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it
back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens
in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands.
Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start
menu,boom, crash or silence.  All I have for Internet or virus
protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what
comes with Windows 10, defender.
It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers,
WE consistently crashes.




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RE: Talk list and comcast

[Chip Orange via Talk]

Well, comcast does store the spam in a special folder, even though I am
using POP to access it; you can see this folder by logging on to their web
mail interface.

If you ever have a problem with an ISP spam filter, you can do what I've
done and create a second email account just for mailing lists, and disable
the spam filter for it.  Then I setup Outlook to check this second email
account.

As Mike says, in this case, something else seems to be the problem, not
comcast.

Chip


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:59 PM
To: Don H; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talk list and comcast

it could if you are useing there on line spam filter. i turned it off. the 
problem with on line spam filters is you never know if good email is going
to 
the spam filter or not because most of the time you never get the messages
at 
all unless you are useing i map and they have a spam folder to store the 
messages in. if not you would never see them.

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From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Talk list and comcast

So is Comcast blocking the WE talk list again?
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Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I hate to add my voice to this thread, but I am using Windows 7 64-Bit Pro, 
ande I have chronic crashing of IE 11 and WE 9.2. Yes, I tried deleting 
everything but my favorites, and it doesn't help. I have reset my setting 
inIE as well.


-Original Message- 
From: Curtis Delzer via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:51 PM
To: Kathy Metters ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11

I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too, 
with

this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the
silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . .
Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications,
bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link
listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to
type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE.
Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it
back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens
in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands.
Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start
menu,boom, crash or silence.  All I have for Internet or virus
protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what
comes with Windows 10, defender.
It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers,
WE consistently crashes.


--
Curtis Delzer 

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:13:02 -0700
Kathy Metters via Talk  wrote:

 I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a  Windows 7 PC 
64-bit with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest 
version of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech 
back and I had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on 
with window eyes.


Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk 
>  wrote:

>
> Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11.
> Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more 
> losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1.  Control alt W brings speech 
> back

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Reading a tool tip

[Wendy Alling via Talk]

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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RE: Talk list and comcast

[Wendy Alling via Talk]

Hello to the list,

I'm using Comcast and so far my email is not being blocked.


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Re: Talk list and comcast

[net bat via Talk]

it could if you are useing there on line spam filter. i turned it off. the 
problem with on line spam filters is you never know if good email is going to 
the spam filter or not because most of the time you never get the messages at 
all unless you are useing i map and they have a spam folder to store the 
messages in. if not you would never see them.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:37 PM
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Subject: Talk list and comcast

So is Comcast blocking the WE talk list again?
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Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too, with
this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the
silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . .
Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications,
bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link
listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to
type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE.
Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it
back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens
in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands.
Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start
menu,boom, crash or silence.  All I have for Internet or virus
protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what
comes with Windows 10, defender.
It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers,
WE consistently crashes.


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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:13:02 -0700
Kathy Metters via Talk  wrote:

>  I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a  Windows 7 PC 64-bit 
> with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest version 
> of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech back and I 
> had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on with window eyes.
> 
> Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11.
> > Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses 
> > of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1.  Control alt W brings speech back
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Re: Talk list and comcast

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

I doubt it.  I use G-mail and have recieved the notice twice in the last week.  
I unscribed and rescribed and will see what happens.



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> So is Comcast blocking the WE talk list again?
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Talk list and comcast

[Don H via Talk]

So is Comcast blocking the WE talk list again?
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find and replace

[Buntemeyer, Loren J. via Talk]

How do I find and replace a character or word in MS Word 10?

Loren
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Turning on sounds in chrome.

[Reeva Webb via Talk]

I thought i saved the email where this question was answered but i can't
find it. How do you turn on sounds in chrome? I really like using chrome
but would like sounds for things like downloads starting.


Reeva
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Re: browse mode on and off

[via Talk]

No, its still there,  go to verbosity, browse mode, autoload and tab a
few times and you will see it.

Rick Jarvis via Talk  wrote:

> I might be wrong but I think they got rid of that.  Rick
> 
> On 8/23/2015 1:41 PM, Butch K via Talk wrote:
> > Hello, can someone tell me how to set wineyes to say browse mode off, 
> > browse mode on, instead of having it click. Thanks.
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RE: browse mode on and off

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Sure.  Open the Window-eyes control panel with ctrl-backslash.  Find the
verbosity node and expand it with the right arrow key.  Next, find the
browse mode item in the list of items and expand it.  Next, find the item
that says auto load.  Tab to the set of four radio buttons.  If you want
browse mode to speak browse mode on or off, select the radio button to
indicate with speech and press ctrl-s to save the setting.  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
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Subject: browse mode on and off

Hello, can someone tell me how to set wineyes to say browse mode off, browse
mode on, instead of having it click. Thanks.

Butch

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Re: browse mode on and off

[Rick Jarvis via Talk]

I might be wrong but I think they got rid of that.  Rick

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Hello, can someone tell me how to set wineyes to say browse mode off, browse 
mode on, instead of having it click. Thanks.

Butch

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browse mode on and off

[Butch K via Talk]

Hello, can someone tell me how to set wineyes to say browse mode off, browse 
mode on, instead of having it click. Thanks.

Butch

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Re: loss of speech

[net bat via Talk]

i get this with firefox too.
i loose speech momintarily if i arrow up or down too fast. if i wait about 20
seconds speech will come back.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 7:23 AM
To: michaeel's mail ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: loss of speech

Something else is wrong. I'm running 9.2 on W7/64 and use IE 11
exclusively. I can't remember the last time I lost speech.

Try clearing all of your cache data: history, cookies, temporary files,
etc. This can be done within IE via Alt-T Tools, Options, Alt-D Delete.
It can also be done within the Windows Control panel with Internet
settings. If you do it within IE close and reopen it.

Resetting IE has solved this problem for some. I also disable or
uninstall any add-ons I don't use: Alt-T Tools, A Manage add-ons.

Open the View menu in IE and uncheck any of the tool bars you don't use.
The only two I have checked are Show status bar and Lock the tool bars.
The menu bar works normally even when it's not shown.

I personally also remove any of the default Window-Eyes apps I don't use.

Hth,
Tom


On 8/23/2015 9:09 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:

Yeah i find that Don  all the time.
I have to use alt control w  every few minutes to get we to start
talking again.
I have just started useing google crome i not to bad its faster.
-Original Message- From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:40 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: loss of speech

Running WE 9.2 on a Win 7 64 bit machine.
While reviewing a web page using the arrow keys in IE 11 speech will
just stop.  If you keep pressing the down arrow key WE sometimes starts
talking again and sometimes not.  If you exit IE after speech is lost
speech is still gone but may come back after a wait of 30 seconds or it
may not come back at all.  This issue has gotten much worse with WE 9.2.
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Re: the latest thunderbird that you were able to read iwth the mouse keyswith

[Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk]

Likewise.  Would love the old installer!

Chris.
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From: "Casey via Talk" 

To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 12:24 AM
Subject: the latest thunderbird that you were able to read iwth the mouse 
keyswith




Hi if someone has it.
Can they please send-me the last version of Thunderbird that you were able 
to read with the mouse keys in window-eyes 9.0.

If someone can do that it would be A big help.
Also if I was to install it over my current one would it work to do that?


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Re: loss of speech

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Something else is wrong. I'm running 9.2 on W7/64 and use IE 11 
exclusively. I can't remember the last time I lost speech.


Try clearing all of your cache data: history, cookies, temporary files, 
etc. This can be done within IE via Alt-T Tools, Options, Alt-D Delete. 
It can also be done within the Windows Control panel with Internet 
settings. If you do it within IE close and reopen it.


Resetting IE has solved this problem for some. I also disable or 
uninstall any add-ons I don't use: Alt-T Tools, A Manage add-ons.


Open the View menu in IE and uncheck any of the tool bars you don't use. 
The only two I have checked are Show status bar and Lock the tool bars. 
The menu bar works normally even when it's not shown.


I personally also remove any of the default Window-Eyes apps I don't use.

Hth,
Tom


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Yeah i find that Don  all the time.
I have to use alt control w  every few minutes to get we to start
talking again.
I have just started useing google crome i not to bad its faster.
-Original Message- From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:40 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: loss of speech

Running WE 9.2 on a Win 7 64 bit machine.
While reviewing a web page using the arrow keys in IE 11 speech will
just stop.  If you keep pressing the down arrow key WE sometimes starts
talking again and sometimes not.  If you exit IE after speech is lost
speech is still gone but may come back after a wait of 30 seconds or it
may not come back at all.  This issue has gotten much worse with WE 9.2.
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RE: app updates

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi,

Thanks, I hadn't known about this option.  However, with my new installation
of WE 9.2 on Windows 10 the default is to play a sound and have the dialog
come up.
Hence, I figure he's losing focus.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: cov...@ccs.covici.com [mailto:cov...@ccs.covici.com] 
Sent: August 23, 2015 9:31 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Cc: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: app updates

I think the new default is to play a sound and not switch the focus to
an update dialog.  This was in a gwtoolkit update.  You  can change the
default in  the menu for that package, if memory serves.


Rod Hutton via Talk  wrote:

> Hi Joe,
> 
> Yes, it looks like Window-Eyes is losing focus.
> Try restarting Window-Eyes and allowing the prompt for updates to come up
> again.If you're still getting the problem, press Escape to get all the way
> out of all Window-Eyes dialogs, and then run the check for app updates
> process yourself manually:
> 1. Press Control-Backslash to open the Window-Eyes control panel
> 2. Press Alt-A to open the Apps menu.
> 3. Press right arrow to expand the highlighted option, namely, App
> Management.
> 4. Arrow down to Add or Remove apps, and press Enter.
> 5. Tab to the Check for updates button and press Enter.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Joe Paton via Talk
> Sent: August 23, 2015 5:20 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: app updates
> 
> Morning all,
> 
> When automatic app updates are available, app udates runs, I hear the
sound
> advising that app updates are available, but I can't find the dialogue to
> accept the updates.  It isn't on the taskbar, sys tray or anywhere.  This
> has
> worked for years, but now has stopped.
> 
> windows 7 64 bit, we 9.2.
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> Joe
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Re: app updates

[via Talk]

I think the new default is to play a sound and not switch the focus to
an update dialog.  This was in a gwtoolkit update.  You  can change the
default in  the menu for that package, if memory serves.


Rod Hutton via Talk  wrote:

> Hi Joe,
> 
> Yes, it looks like Window-Eyes is losing focus.
> Try restarting Window-Eyes and allowing the prompt for updates to come up
> again.If you're still getting the problem, press Escape to get all the way
> out of all Window-Eyes dialogs, and then run the check for app updates
> process yourself manually:
> 1. Press Control-Backslash to open the Window-Eyes control panel
> 2. Press Alt-A to open the Apps menu.
> 3. Press right arrow to expand the highlighted option, namely, App
> Management.
> 4. Arrow down to Add or Remove apps, and press Enter.
> 5. Tab to the Check for updates button and press Enter.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Joe Paton via Talk
> Sent: August 23, 2015 5:20 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: app updates
> 
> Morning all,
> 
> When automatic app updates are available, app udates runs, I hear the sound
> advising that app updates are available, but I can't find the dialogue to
> accept the updates.  It isn't on the taskbar, sys tray or anywhere.  This
> has
> worked for years, but now has stopped.
> 
> windows 7 64 bit, we 9.2.
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> Joe
> -- 
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Re: loss of speech

[michaeel's mail via Talk]

Yeah i find that Don  all the time.
I have to use alt control w  every few minutes to get we to start talking 
again.

I have just started useing google crome i not to bad its faster.
-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:40 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: loss of speech

Running WE 9.2 on a Win 7 64 bit machine.
While reviewing a web page using the arrow keys in IE 11 speech will
just stop.  If you keep pressing the down arrow key WE sometimes starts
talking again and sometimes not.  If you exit IE after speech is lost
speech is still gone but may come back after a wait of 30 seconds or it
may not come back at all.  This issue has gotten much worse with WE 9.2.
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RE: app updates

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Joe,

Yes, it looks like Window-Eyes is losing focus.
Try restarting Window-Eyes and allowing the prompt for updates to come up
again.If you're still getting the problem, press Escape to get all the way
out of all Window-Eyes dialogs, and then run the check for app updates
process yourself manually:
1. Press Control-Backslash to open the Window-Eyes control panel
2. Press Alt-A to open the Apps menu.
3. Press right arrow to expand the highlighted option, namely, App
Management.
4. Arrow down to Add or Remove apps, and press Enter.
5. Tab to the Check for updates button and press Enter.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Joe Paton via Talk
Sent: August 23, 2015 5:20 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: app updates

Morning all,

When automatic app updates are available, app udates runs, I hear the sound
advising that app updates are available, but I can't find the dialogue to
accept the updates.  It isn't on the taskbar, sys tray or anywhere.  This
has
worked for years, but now has stopped.

windows 7 64 bit, we 9.2.

any ideas?

Joe
-- 
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RE: WE 9.0 install from cd show as demo

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Bill,

Yes, this happened to me when I was installing Window-Eyes by incrementally
updating using upgrade installer packages.
I guess what happened is that I had jumped from 8.0 to 9.0 and I had figured
I could bypass 8.4.
The only way to fix it was to completely uninstall Window-Eyes and use all
the packages I had, one at a time, in the proper order.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Belew via Talk
Sent: August 22, 2015 10:08 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: WE 9.0 install from cd show as demo

Does anyone have any idea why a fresh install of Window-Eyes 9.0 from the CD
on a Windows 7 machine would say it is a demo version?  It has the correct
serial number in the about, but still says it is a 30 minute demo.  

Bill

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bill=mind@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:33 PM
To: 'Vinny Samarco'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Need help with Goldwave and We 9.1

Hi Vinny,

I believe the set files supplied with Window-Eyes are out of date, at least
the ones I see were installed with WE 9.2.
Unless I am wrong about that, I don't think they will help much with
GoldWave 5.7, since the set files have names like GW5.xx.
However, I wrote an app called GoldWave Enhance which uses three hotkeys to
speak the start, end and total time of the selected sound clip, and so at
least this may help.
Are you familiar with the AppGet utility which is installed with
Window-Eyes?
This allows you to display the list of available apps in the App repository
on the AI Squared web site.
If you are, then you can install GoldWave Enhance that way, and you will
find it in the Multimedia category.
Alternatively, here is the GoldWave Enhance info page where you can download
and install the app:

http://bit.ly/1hS6mi9

I hope this info helps,

Rod Hutton

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Of Vinny Samarco via Talk
Sent: August 22, 2015 6:33 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Need help with Goldwave and We 9.1

Hi,
In Goldwave when I go to edit a file, as I am playing we seems to turn
itself off, in other words, none of the key functions will speak as they
used to do in previous versions with xp.  I am now using Windows 7 and
goldwave 5.7, along with We 9.10.
Now I have reinstalled all pertenant set files and aps.  But when I go
to the we control panel and read the title, it still says Window-eyes
something, associated none.  I have forgotten how to associate the goldwave
set files into we.  So far, reading through the latest tutorial, I cannot
find out that information.
I am working on a important time sensitive project, so I would greatly
appreciate any expert advice.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Vinny Samarco
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loss of speech

[Don H via Talk]

Running WE 9.2 on a Win 7 64 bit machine.
While reviewing a web page using the arrow keys in IE 11 speech will 
just stop.  If you keep pressing the down arrow key WE sometimes starts 
talking again and sometimes not.  If you exit IE after speech is lost 
speech is still gone but may come back after a wait of 30 seconds or it 
may not come back at all.  This issue has gotten much worse with WE 9.2.

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RE: a test message

[Ivan Cribb via Talk]

Hello Amit,
I got your message with no problem.
Regareds Ivan

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+icribb=iinet.net...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of amit aggarwal via Talk
Sent: Friday, 21 August 2015 8:51 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: a test message

hello all,
my name is amit aggarwal from india reading in tenth standard.
I am new in this mailing list, so thought to send a test message to 
ensure if everything is going fine.
best regards,
amit aggarwal
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app updates

[Joe Paton via Talk]

Morning all,

When automatic app updates are available, app udates runs, I hear the sound
advising that app updates are available, but I can't find the dialogue to
accept the updates.  It isn't on the taskbar, sys tray or anywhere.  This has
worked for years, but now has stopped.

windows 7 64 bit, we 9.2.

any ideas?

Joe
-- 
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RE: How do you stop the too many bounces warning?

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: I talked to a fellow who knows a little about all this and he believes
it is how AI2 has their server and Mailman setup.
Evidently the big guys ping a server like the AI2 e-list sending messages to
them to ensure the e-mail address is valid, think that is what he said.
If it gets a response fine, else it bounces a message back to AI2. Then in
Mailman there are settings where they can automatically bounce you after a
number of bounces and settings to handle it in diferent ways.
Anyway it sure sounded like what is going on to me.
Other people use Mailman without these problems like FreeLists, the one he
pointed out, who handle this plumbing so folks creating e-lists don't need
to muck with it.
Perhaps AI2 has their e-mail server software setup incorrectly, not a slam
but perhaps something they can look into.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Amanda Lee [mailto:amandainparadise...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:36 PM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: How do you stop the too many bounces warning?

I received this message yesterday and had been dropped from this list since 
6/14.  I went back in and enabled the list again.  I am using gmail so guess

it's not immune to gmail as well.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Thomas via Talk" 
To: "'Danny'" ; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
; "'Kevin Huber'" ; 
"'Chris T'" 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: How do you stop the too many bounces warning?


Hi Danny: This is interesting since Chip said you would not have this
problem if you use Gmail.
To be fair I believe that is what he was led to believe by the tech folks at
AI2.
But it would seem from your post that Gmail is no answer either.
If one fellow is correct most the major players do a security ping back that
may be causing this problem on the AI2 server side and the Mailman settings
then count them and disable your account depending on the AI2 Mailman
settings - not sure but it sounded correct when he was telling me all the
technicals over the phone.
Rick USA


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Danny via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:06 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Chris T ;
Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: How do you stop the too many bounces warning?

I got this the other day and had stopped receiving messages until I went and

reactived my account.  I am using GMAIL and a local dsl provider.

Danny

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:03 PM
To: Chris T ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: How do you stop the too many bounces warning?

Hi Chris:

I don't think that there is anything you can do.  I just had one of
those notifications a week or so ago.  It was the first such
notification that I have gotten since this list started so I don't
know what is going on.
Kevin Huber

On 8/21/15, Chris T via Talk  wrote:
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>
> Subject speaks for itself. I've had to rstore my subscription twice and
> would like to be able too stop.
>
> Thanks
>
> chris
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RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: Happens here on my Windows 8.1 machine with WE 9.2 and IE 11.
The symptoms are losing speech, losing the up and down arrow keys and
usually the tabbing keys and sometimes the alt-tab function.
Sometimes the ctl-alt-w keys will bring it back but often only partially.
Sometimes firing up narrator and moving around the web page by tabbing will
then have WE start speaking again but often without the use of the up and
down arrow keys and it is likely to fail again unless I exit and ReStart IE
and sometimes the machine itself.
Sometimes firing up jaws will work to help WindowEyes come back, note that
jaws still reads things correctly so the pages are there, and sometimes just
refreshing the page might help but not usually.
I have noticed that often when I do manage to get speech back the cursor or
whatever is around an input or active control on the page like a search box
or one of those menu bars with various control options and sometimes if I
get away from them quickly I can avoid the problem, sometimes not so this is
not a solid idea but has been the case often enough to indicate a possible
point of the problem source.
Another problem I have, had allot with another browser, firefox, was that WE
was having all kinds of problems with flash objects crashing firefox. It got
so bad I dumped firefox and just live with all the IE speech problems in
WindowEyes.
The thing here is that while I am not getting major page messages from
firefox that it has crashed due to the flash problems these pages likely
still use flash in Internet Explorer so may be another source of WE Problems
- don't know.
Good luck:
Rick USA

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Behalf Of Kathy Metters via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 12:13 AM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11

 I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a  Windows 7 PC
64-bit with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest
version of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech
back and I had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on with
window eyes.

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk 
wrote:
> 
> Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11.
> Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more
losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1.  Control alt W brings speech back
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RE: Why can't WE9.program be set with exclusive use of one core?

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi Manny:
That is interesting.
When a program runs in parallel mode it is suppose to have resources shared
among all the cpu processes via something like time slicing depending on the
priority of the program when it was started I think.
My initial thought might be that if the chess game sets the priority really
high it may be grabbing so much cpu time that it is impacting other computer
operations including WindowEyes but that is the most wild of guessess.
A dedicated processor might get rid of that problem as you mentioned.
Were you able to have WindowEyes run on a single dedicated processor and
were you able to verify which one or, at least, which thread or something?
Rick USA

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