Re: Spotify scripts wanted
Yes, this needs to happen like seriously. Reeva On Monday, September 14, 2015, Donald L. Roberts via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Has anyone written any scripts for Window-eyes 9.2 with Spotify? If not, > why not? > > I know that there are proprietary (rather expensive) scripts for JFW, and > also that NVDA works to a limited extent with Spotify. So I am writing to > encourage you Window-Eyes scripters to come up with something meaningful > for Spotify. > > Don Roberts > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com > . > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
converting word docs to a pdf
Hey guys, Anyone know where i can convert a word doc to a pdf? Any help would be appreciated. I'm on a bit of a deadline and would like to convert it. thanks, Jed ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
I highly agree with Rick, I myself at present have a problem at home with couple of applications and window-eyes after I migrate to windows10 and I am waiting GW-Micro to discover what in the hell went wrong. So patience and patience. Michael Micallef FITA Officer - Fita FITA MALTA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AGENCY Email: Office: Mobile: URL: michael.mical...@gov.mt +356 25992343 +356 79421278 http://www.mita.gov.mt Please read our Legal Notice: http://emailpolicy.mita.gov.mt Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Monday, 14 September 2015 12:20 To: 'Singing Sparrow'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Robert Ringwald' Subject: RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Hi: I think they would love to fix this problem if they had the tools and skills if they could. But, be assured they are not just sitting around drinking beer and watching football while their bread and butter goes bad. About a decade ago WindowEyes was, in fact, the most solid and user friendly screen reader on the market in my opinion. Today with all the new technicals, and I am guessing the legacy design and tools they now use, not so much. But, even though I understand your frustration completely, to say they are not concerned is just spouting your frustration. Remember their jobs and their famlies future incomes depend on getting it right if they can. This is their profession, their livelyhoods and even their major source of professional reputation so I don't think they are not trying. But wanting to do something and having the ability to do something are 2 quite diferent things is something we were taught in Grad School and is, of course, common sense for anyone who ever tried to design and implement any larger project - think large and complex wedding perhaps and that is simple compared to what AI Squared is looking at. I too am frustrated but either have to live with what they can do or move on and, so far, I am hanging in with WindowEyes since I have a decade or more invested in learning the product and even working a little with scripting and several of the group members and a couple of the AI Squared staff from time to time. Rick USA. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michael.micallef%40gov.mt. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: junk email
i had to disable the spam scanner in eset antivirus because it was moveing messages i was sending to the spam folder and i didn't know if the messages got sent or not. now it marks messages as spam but does nothing to them. they stay in the folders where they are suppose to be. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 8:26 PM To: Ross McGregor ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: junk email I wanted to wait till I read all responses to this question so far. I wish to add that your antivirus or internet security software may also be sending E-mail to your junk folder. You may be able to stop the software from sending E-mail to your junk folder in a similar manner as mentioned in other responses. -Original Message- From: Ross McGregor via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:43 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: junk email Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: stability versus new browse mode
Yes because if you try to shut down the system you will get an error message letting you know that x program is still running and preventing windows from shutting down. You then have the options to shut down any way. Of course you have no speech so you will not see this message. Hth -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:45 AM To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode Hello Pressing the button lightly often doesn't work after the loss of speech. Mike.At 18:39 14/09/2015, you wrote: >I'm beginning to wonder if mixing new versions with old versions is >such a good idea. Control-alt w almost always works for me. And why >are so many people doing a hard reboot? Just press the button lightly. >My computer is designed to shut down normally. I no longer have to >press control-escape and arrow down. > >On 9/14/2015 1:16 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote: >>If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning >>this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, >>in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost >>never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. >>I've said it before, and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever! >>Josh >> >> >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Talk >>[mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On >>Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk >>Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM >>To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode >> >>Butch, >> >>My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the >>new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible >>to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there >>is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this >>issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W >>to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the >>reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window >>Eyes development team! >> >>Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net >> >>On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: >>>Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and >>>it was >>fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse >>mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of >>wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same >>tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, >>W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for >>a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier >>version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was >>running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I >>would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of >>money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen >>reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never >>been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. >>>Butch >>> >>> >>>___ >>>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>For membership options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb% >>40char >>ter.net. >>>For subscription options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>List archives can be found at >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> >>___ >>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >>For membership options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riv >>eranr% >>40gmail.com. >>For subscription options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>List archives can be found at >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >>___ >>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >>For membership options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames% 40msn.com. >>For subscription options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>List archives can be found at >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > >___ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those o
RE: stability versus new browse mode
What browser is being used hear. I am not able to reproduce this problem using window eyes for office at the moment 9.2 with windows 10 and internet explorer 11. It works just fine. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 6:33 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: stability versus new browse mode Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows 10 surprise
I found the answer to the task manager problem I reported earlier. Now if you press the "more details button inside of task manager, all the background and running processes come back. I did not have to click that button before, but at least, I have gotten all processes to show up again in task manager. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 9/14/2015 10:54 AM, Bob Tinney wrote: Hi, As I said in an earlier post, these automatic updates can be good for security, but bad if Microsoft screws up. This morning, I found that the Task Manager functionality has changed. The task manager no longer reports on all processes running, it just shows app processes that are running. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: junk email
I wanted to wait till I read all responses to this question so far. I wish to add that your antivirus or internet security software may also be sending E-mail to your junk folder. You may be able to stop the software from sending E-mail to your junk folder in a similar manner as mentioned in other responses. -Original Message- From: Ross McGregor via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:43 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: junk email Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Fwd: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Hey Rod, I'm pretty sure it is if you've set the power button to shut down. I've never been able to find anything real about it from Microsoft. But if I do the soft touch my system grinds a few pounds of beef before shutting down. So I assume it's terminating all processes before the final shutdown. Conversely, if I press and hold the power button it just shuts right down. But with that having had been said, I've never really had to be concerned with it because my desktop, which is what I'm working on 95% of the time, has a dedicated very small reboot button that's almost inset beneath the large power button. It has to be pushed and held in for a few seconds to force a reboot. But the result seems to be the same. And as I've said, my lockups and loss of speech are so rare that I haven't really given it much thought. And when it does happen I can usually get out of it before having to reboot. And be it that memory leaks are a given in Windows and programs I just reboot every few days when things start getting sluggish. Then she's all revved up and ready to roll again for another few days. Regards, Tom On 9/14/2015 8:22 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Tom, People are saying now that ever since Windows 8.1 the power button is as safe as choosing shutdown from the power menu. Do you agree? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: September 14, 2015 5:22 PM To: Linda Mentink ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? If they didn't changed things in Windows 8 or 10 you can Windows-D to the desktop and then Alt-F4 to open the shutdown dialog. By default you'll be on shutdown and only have to hit enter. If you want to reboot (restart) hit R followed by enter. Hth, Tom On 9/14/2015 5:15 PM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote: Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Me neither. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 7:44 PM To: Linda Mentink ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? I never found that I could make that work, once window eyes shut up. Pam. -Original Message- From: Linda Mentink via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:15 PM To: Whizza ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
I heard that it was that way for previous versions of windows starting with vista. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 8:22 PM To: 'Tom Kingston' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Hi Tom, People are saying now that ever since Windows 8.1 the power button is as safe as choosing shutdown from the power menu. Do you agree? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: September 14, 2015 5:22 PM To: Linda Mentink ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? If they didn't changed things in Windows 8 or 10 you can Windows-D to the desktop and then Alt-F4 to open the shutdown dialog. By default you'll be on shutdown and only have to hit enter. If you want to reboot (restart) hit R followed by enter. Hth, Tom On 9/14/2015 5:15 PM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote: Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
I never found that I could make that work, once window eyes shut up. Pam. -Original Message- From: Linda Mentink via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:15 PM To: Whizza ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: stability versus new browse mode
I'm not doubting you, but sometimes (at least in my case) I have to wait longer than I'd normally expect to wait for my computer to shut down (sometimes more than two minutes. I'm using Windows-8.1. On 9/14/2015 2:44 PM, Mike wrote: Hello Pressing the button lightly often doesn't work after the loss of speech. Mike.At 18:39 14/09/2015, you wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if mixing new versions with old versions is such a good idea. Control-alt w almost always works for me. And why are so many people doing a hard reboot? Just press the button lightly. My computer is designed to shut down normally. I no longer have to press control-escape and arrow down. On 9/14/2015 1:16 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote: If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. I've said it before, and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever! Josh -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode Butch, My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window Eyes development team! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb%40char ter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the a
Re: stability versus new browse mode
Hi there GROUP! I also am having a much higher degree of success with 9.1. I am going to upgrade to Win10 and we9.2 soon. I really am much happier with 9.1 than I ever was with 8.4. I more or less gave up on IE and even FireFox while using 8.4. I do still have the old 8.4 CD although I suspect that when I upgrade to W.E. 9.2 I will probably file it away and forget about it. Just thought I would put my two sense worth in whatever that may be worth these day! . THANKS AND HAVE A GREAT DAY! De . On 14-Sep-15 11:13, via Talk wrote: Bob, Butch said that the infamous ALT CTRL W command to restart a silent WE, does not work, and that he had to do a Cold Boot of his system to regain Speech. I too find I need to do a Cold Boot about half the time. There are enough people who are having issues that it should not be ignored, in hopes that those of us with these random failures will just go away. Glad you are having success with WE 9.X, at least someone is. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? and another solution-kill we batch file
why are you still useing w e 7.2? anyway you don't need to do this anymore. all you need in a batch file is the path to the wineyes.exe file with the switch /k keep the quotes. "C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe" /k -Original Message- From: manny via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 4:58 PM To: Linda Mentink ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? and another solution-kill we batch file I'd like to share some info, which I have posted before, but is worth repeating, with regards to losing sound. Firstly, with regards to the ding sound which is generated by the windows operating system. I some times lose sound after hearing the ding sound. This happens in explorer, Firefox, internet explorer, wordpad, notepad. My solution: I unplug the usb connection for my headset, and WE7.2 starts speaking via my external speakers. I then replug my usb headset and everything is back to normal. In this case, windows lost sound to my headset, which is a known bug to all windows operating systems. Now, another known bug for all windows operating systems is that keyboard stops functioning. I use a wireless keyboard, and when I lose sound, I hit windows key on my usb keyboard and sometimes my sound is back. In this case, my wireless keyboard stopped functioning. Now, sometimes the usb keyboard is not responding either. In this case, I unplug the usb keyboard and wait for a ding sound, and then I replug the usb keyboard, and this sometimes does the trick, and keyboard is working again. However, sometimes the lost of sound is caused by a WE7.2 crash. In this case, I use a batch file to unload all three gwmicro programs, and restart WE7.2, and I am back to normal. Here is the instruction on how to create this batch file: download pskill from: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896683 : then copy and paste pskill.exe to c:\windows copy the following: pskill wineyes.exe pskill gwm32.exe pskill speech32.exe pskill bdisplay.exe S to a notepad document, and save it as: kill_we.bat then create a short-cut to the batch file and place it on the desktop. then right click on the short-cut and press r for property then tab to hot key and give it a hot key. I use control alt k which stands for kill WE-- smile. Good luck, Manny Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes 8.4, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 8.1, with start8 from: www.stardock.com with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core drivers and software updated software recommended: Firefox, Thunderbird, security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, On 9/14/2015 11:15 AM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote: Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mauiman01%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Besides being reassured, I have found that when I lightly tap the power button, the computer goes through the typical shut down process, as opposed to a forced shut down. Certainly that is not a scientific justification, but I am convinced it's safe. On 9/14/2015 8:22 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, People are saying now that ever since Windows 8.1 the power button is as safe as choosing shutdown from the power menu. Do you agree? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: September 14, 2015 5:22 PM To: Linda Mentink ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? If they didn't changed things in Windows 8 or 10 you can Windows-D to the desktop and then Alt-F4 to open the shutdown dialog. By default you'll be on shutdown and only have to hit enter. If you want to reboot (restart) hit R followed by enter. Hth, Tom On 9/14/2015 5:15 PM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote: Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: if bookmarks hang in firefox do this
you don't have to do this. just turn off autoload and browse mode before you open the bookmark list then it won't hang. -Original Message- From: mcleod stinnett via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 4:37 PM To: talk Subject: if bookmarks hang in firefox do this install plain old favorites 1.3 make sure to use firefox to do this. here it is http://www.iosart.com/firefox/plainoldfavorites/ click on the link that says, install plain old favorites 1.3 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Hi Tom, People are saying now that ever since Windows 8.1 the power button is as safe as choosing shutdown from the power menu. Do you agree? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: September 14, 2015 5:22 PM To: Linda Mentink ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? If they didn't changed things in Windows 8 or 10 you can Windows-D to the desktop and then Alt-F4 to open the shutdown dialog. By default you'll be on shutdown and only have to hit enter. If you want to reboot (restart) hit R followed by enter. Hth, Tom On 9/14/2015 5:15 PM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote: > Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your > computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's > nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to > force a shut-down. > > Blessings, > > Linda > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? and another solution- kill we batch file
I'd like to share some info, which I have posted before, but is worth repeating, with regards to losing sound. Firstly, with regards to the ding sound which is generated by the windows operating system. I some times lose sound after hearing the ding sound. This happens in explorer, Firefox, internet explorer, wordpad, notepad. My solution: I unplug the usb connection for my headset, and WE7.2 starts speaking via my external speakers. I then replug my usb headset and everything is back to normal. In this case, windows lost sound to my headset, which is a known bug to all windows operating systems. Now, another known bug for all windows operating systems is that keyboard stops functioning. I use a wireless keyboard, and when I lose sound, I hit windows key on my usb keyboard and sometimes my sound is back. In this case, my wireless keyboard stopped functioning. Now, sometimes the usb keyboard is not responding either. In this case, I unplug the usb keyboard and wait for a ding sound, and then I replug the usb keyboard, and this sometimes does the trick, and keyboard is working again. However, sometimes the lost of sound is caused by a WE7.2 crash. In this case, I use a batch file to unload all three gwmicro programs, and restart WE7.2, and I am back to normal. Here is the instruction on how to create this batch file: download pskill from: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896683 : then copy and paste pskill.exe to c:\windows copy the following: pskill wineyes.exe pskill gwm32.exe pskill speech32.exe pskill bdisplay.exe S to a notepad document, and save it as: kill_we.bat then create a short-cut to the batch file and place it on the desktop. then right click on the short-cut and press r for property then tab to hot key and give it a hot key. I use control alt k which stands for kill WE-- smile. Good luck, Manny Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes 8.4, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 8.1, with start8 from: www.stardock.com with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core drivers and software updated software recommended: Firefox, Thunderbird, security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, On 9/14/2015 11:15 AM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote: Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mauiman01%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
if bookmarks hang in firefox do this
install plain old favorites 1.3 make sure to use firefox to do this. here it is http://www.iosart.com/firefox/plainoldfavorites/ click on the link that says, install plain old favorites 1.3 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Adobe shock wave player
I removed it from my system and installed html5 forfirefox and haven't noticed any problems. - Original Message - From: "Don H via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:42 PM Subject: Adobe shock wave player Does the Adobe Shock wave player have any usefulness relative to us Screen reader users? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bricemijares%40att.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: junk email
If gmail were identifying the messages as SPAm, the messages wouldn't even make it to the Junk folder. It appears that either the mail client or a personal mail filter is identifying the messages as junk. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 4:59 PM To: Ross McGregor; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: junk email if they are useing gmail they have to log onto there web mail spam folder and mark your messages as not spam. then it will be added to there white list and will go to the in box from then on. other wise they have to add your email to the safe list in there program and turn off email fishing so they will not be marked as spam. -Original Message- From: Ross McGregor via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:43 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: junk email Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Adobe shock wave player
Does the Adobe Shock wave player have any usefulness relative to us Screen reader users? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: stability versus new browse mode
Thanks for the reminder, and, since moving to my new Windows 10 machine, forgot to put this shortcut on my desktop. smile -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: September 14, 2015 11:55 AM To: Butch K ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode some times you have to do a clean install not a upgrade. also some of the set files were out of date. includeing firefox and i e. w e 9.2 is the latest version and it did have some bug fixes over w e 9.1. the only problems i have had so far is with firefox. w e and firefox will hang when i open the bookmark list in this case control alt w will not close w e until the two unhang. if i turn off autoload before i open the bookmark list it works fine . without hanging. *** i use a batch file to shut down w e with a command line. this is independent of the w e hot keys to reload. the /k command will kill w e. "C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe" /k this will shut down w e completely most of the time. then you can reload with the regular hot keys. -Original Message- From: Butch K via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 6:32 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: stability versus new browse mode Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
If they didn't changed things in Windows 8 or 10 you can Windows-D to the desktop and then Alt-F4 to open the shutdown dialog. By default you'll be on shutdown and only have to hit enter. If you want to reboot (restart) hit R followed by enter. Hth, Tom On 9/14/2015 5:15 PM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote: Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Just a suggestion: if you know the keystrokes to shut down your computer, just do them without Window-Eyes if it stops talking. That's nicer to your computer than pressing and holding the power button to force a shut-down. Blessings, Linda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: junk email
Okay, Ross. This is the real answer. So the fish and chips are on me this week. Timid Tom On 9/14/2015 4:59 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: if they are useing gmail they have to log onto there web mail spam folder and mark your messages as not spam. then it will be added to there white list and will go to the in box from then on. other wise they have to add your email to the safe list in there program and turn off email fishing so they will not be marked as spam. -Original Message- From: Ross McGregor via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:43 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: junk email Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: junk email
Well now, Mr. McGregor, As an IT professional, that's information technology for the intellectually challenged, I have reason to believe that your intellectual content is indeed a strong contributor to this perplexing problem. However, I must, painful though it be, admit that there are certainly other factors involved. In fact, many. All ISPs (Internet Service Providers) have spam filters running on their servers. And most email clients have them as well. And finally, GMail is rather notorious for being rather steroidal in this area. Some are marked as spam and some as junk. And no, this spam is not the spam that the immortal Monty Python sang about so profoundly. So the best thing to do is have your friends figure out how to mark your messages as readable in order to fool at least their email client's intellectual judgement into thinking they are indeed that. In the business we refer to this as hoodwinking the system. Good luck. Your ever so gracious technical adviser. Doctor Tom On 9/14/2015 4:43 PM, Ross McGregor via Talk wrote: Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: junk email
if they are useing gmail they have to log onto there web mail spam folder and mark your messages as not spam. then it will be added to there white list and will go to the in box from then on. other wise they have to add your email to the safe list in there program and turn off email fishing so they will not be marked as spam. -Original Message- From: Ross McGregor via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:43 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: junk email Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
junk email
Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: stability versus new browse mode
Hi, Try windows-r for the run dialog and type wineyes and press enter. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Rivera via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:16 PM To: 'Bob Tinney' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: stability versus new browse mode If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. I've said it before, and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever! Josh -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode Butch, My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window Eyes development team! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: > Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it > was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. > > Butch > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb%40char ter.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: stability versus new browse mode
Hello Pressing the button lightly often doesn't work after the loss of speech. Mike.At 18:39 14/09/2015, you wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if mixing new versions with old versions is such a good idea. Control-alt w almost always works for me. And why are so many people doing a hard reboot? Just press the button lightly. My computer is designed to shut down normally. I no longer have to press control-escape and arrow down. On 9/14/2015 1:16 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote: If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. I've said it before, and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever! Josh -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode Butch, My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window Eyes development team! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb%40char ter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-win
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
me too. and the windows sounds keep on working just the win eyes doesn't -Original Message- From: Brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:47 AM To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? in my case, it don't have to be a browser. I've had it stop working in Windows mail, window explore ETC. Also, when this happens I can't even bring up NVDA. - Original Message - From: "Chris Grabowski via Talk" To: "Whizza" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 8:43 AM Subject: RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? What browser? Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Whizza via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:16 AM To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bricemijares%40att.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: stability versus new browse mode
I'm beginning to wonder if mixing new versions with old versions is such a good idea. Control-alt w almost always works for me. And why are so many people doing a hard reboot? Just press the button lightly. My computer is designed to shut down normally. I no longer have to press control-escape and arrow down. On 9/14/2015 1:16 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote: If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. I've said it before, and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever! Josh -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode Butch, My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window Eyes development team! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb%40char ter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
I'm using WE 8.4 with IE11 and have used PayPal routinely with no problems. I buy music regularly from artists on Bandcamp and I pay through PayPal. I've never had a problem in many purchases. Evan -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:47 PM To: Whizza ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? I logged into my Paypal account a few hours ago and had no problem. W7/64 in IE 11. Regards, Tom On 9/14/2015 11:16 AM, Whizza via Talk wrote: This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mentat1%40dslextreme.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: voice rotor only allows 2 voices.
HI Netbat: Control-shift-windows-f2 just rotates between the voice you are using and the voice before it in the cycle. Just use Windows f2 to go through all the voices that you have added. Kevin huber On 9/10/15, net bat via Talk wrote: > hi, i just notice with w e 9.2 ,windows 7 64bit > the voice roter only uses 2 voices. i can add to the roter list. but when i > use > v 1.56 > shift control windows f2 i can only roter through 2 of the 4 voices. i did > clearall voices and added them again, saved the voice settings and save. > even > reloaded w e after saveing the changes but still i can only roter through 2 > of > the 4 voices. i have in the list. > i can reopen the roter list, all 4 voices are there. > ivona jenafer,neo speech kate and paul and scansoft tom. > i can roter through the last 2 i add but the other 2 will not run until i > remove 2 from the list. > > thanks for any help. > > > > There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. > You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: retrieving messages from tb trash
Yes, it says move to inbox again. On 9/14/2015 1:26 PM, Brian Moore via Talk wrote: HI. you can also press the application key on a message and move it back to inbox or wherever you like as well as take a bunch of other actions on it. Brian. On 09/14/2015 1:19 PM, Natalie via Talk wrote: Just shift-tab once and either hit T or better still go down the list of folders until you get to trash. Then, as in the inbox, tab once to the list of documents and when you find the one you want just enter or, if that doesn't work, hit the spacebar once to select it and then hit enter. Natalie On 9/14/2015 1:08 PM, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote: Hi Gang, I have lost some emails so I presume they are in the trash. In Thunderbird how does one get to the trash folder and how can an email be retrieved? Thanks. I wish I knew more about what I'm doing, but I don't. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/admin%40screenreview.org. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
I've found that it happens on various web pages, and sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. -Original Message- From: Whizza via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:16 AM To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Spotify scripts wanted
Has anyone written any scripts for Window-eyes 9.2 with Spotify? If not, why not? I know that there are proprietary (rather expensive) scripts for JFW, and also that NVDA works to a limited extent with Spotify. So I am writing to encourage you Window-Eyes scripters to come up with something meaningful for Spotify. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: retrieving messages from tb trash
HI. you can also press the application key on a message and move it back to inbox or wherever you like as well as take a bunch of other actions on it. Brian. On 09/14/2015 1:19 PM, Natalie via Talk wrote: Just shift-tab once and either hit T or better still go down the list of folders until you get to trash. Then, as in the inbox, tab once to the list of documents and when you find the one you want just enter or, if that doesn't work, hit the spacebar once to select it and then hit enter. Natalie On 9/14/2015 1:08 PM, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote: Hi Gang, I have lost some emails so I presume they are in the trash. In Thunderbird how does one get to the trash folder and how can an email be retrieved? Thanks. I wish I knew more about what I'm doing, but I don't. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/admin%40screenreview.org. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: retrieving messages from tb trash
Just shift-tab once and either hit T or better still go down the list of folders until you get to trash. Then, as in the inbox, tab once to the list of documents and when you find the one you want just enter or, if that doesn't work, hit the spacebar once to select it and then hit enter. Natalie On 9/14/2015 1:08 PM, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote: Hi Gang, I have lost some emails so I presume they are in the trash. In Thunderbird how does one get to the trash folder and how can an email be retrieved? Thanks. I wish I knew more about what I'm doing, but I don't. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: stability versus new browse mode
Amen! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 9:33 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: stability versus new browse mode Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: stability versus new browse mode
If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. I've said it before, and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever! Josh -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode Butch, My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window Eyes development team! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: > Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. > > Butch > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb%40char ter.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
retrieving messages from tb trash
Hi Gang, I have lost some emails so I presume they are in the trash. In Thunderbird how does one get to the trash folder and how can an email be retrieved? Thanks. I wish I knew more about what I'm doing, but I don't. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
I logged into my Paypal account a few hours ago and had no problem. W7/64 in IE 11. Regards, Tom On 9/14/2015 11:16 AM, Whizza via Talk wrote: This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
in my case, it don't have to be a browser. I've had it stop working in Windows mail, window explore ETC. Also, when this happens I can't even bring up NVDA. - Original Message - From: "Chris Grabowski via Talk" To: "Whizza" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 8:43 AM Subject: RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? What browser? Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Whizza via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:16 AM To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bricemijares%40att.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Hi, I have used Paypal recently with Windows 10 and WE 9.2 and I managed to do it, but had to refresh a couple of times. However, I made a payment through my bank on another website and it froze, so I wasn't sure whether or not the payment had gone through. I am using WE 9.2 demo version and am reluctant to buy the upgrade until these problems are sorted out. I have been impressed with WE over the years but I think this latest version has been released without the necessary preliminary checks. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ennis.killip=sky@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Whizza via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 4:16 PM To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ennis.killip%4 0sky.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
In Word Shift-F6 once should put you in the document window. You should also land there if you open the Run dialog and enter winword. Hth, Tom Hth, Tom On 9/14/2015 7:26 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: When starting up Word, you may have to press F6 a few times to get into the correct pane. If you use Insert-Tab to get a list of particular items of interest, it can take several seconds to generate the list and several more seconds when you switch to a different type of object to list. If you have to use ctrl-alt-W to restart Window-Eyes, sometimes it helps to move focus away from the problem program to a less-active program. Try Windows-M before ctrl-Alt-W and see what happens. Also note that it can take several seconds for the restart process to happen. If you only have 2 GB of RAM, you will run into a lot of these systems. 4 GB is plenty, in my experience. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Veronica Smith asks: Unfortunately, WE just goes out to lunch while I am in a word doc as well. It truly frustrates me. Dear Veronica, It frustrates a whole lot of us Window-Eyes users. And it has frustrated us for a very long time. Some how GW Micro can't seem to correct the problem. At least now we can easily get the voice back by typing ctrl alt W. -Bob Ringwald ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
If Control-Alt-W doesn't work try Windows-R to open the Run dialog. Then type wineyes and hit enter. I rarely lose speech so I'm not sure if it will make any difference. Hth, Tom On 9/14/2015 7:02 AM, tchild via Talk wrote: Except, sometimes Ctrl, alt, W doesn't work. Only with a reboot does it return -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Veronica Smith asks: Unfortunately, WE just goes out to lunch while I am in a word doc as well. It truly frustrates me. Dear Veronica, It frustrates a whole lot of us Window-Eyes users. And it has frustrated us for a very long time. Some how GW Micro can't seem to correct the problem. At least now we can easily get the voice back by typing ctrl alt W. -Bob Ringwald ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: stability versus new browse mode
some times you have to do a clean install not a upgrade. also some of the set files were out of date. includeing firefox and i e. w e 9.2 is the latest version and it did have some bug fixes over w e 9.1. the only problems i have had so far is with firefox. w e and firefox will hang when i open the bookmark list in this case control alt w will not close w e until the two unhang. if i turn off autoload before i open the bookmark list it works fine . without hanging. *** i use a batch file to shut down w e with a command line. this is independent of the w e hot keys to reload. the /k command will kill w e. "C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe" /k this will shut down w e completely most of the time. then you can reload with the regular hot keys. -Original Message- From: Butch K via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 6:32 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: stability versus new browse mode Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
What browser? Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Whizza via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:16 AM To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
This happened to me over the week end when I tried to log into the Paypal website. It was okay until I hit the log in link and there was no way I could enter my user name and password. Window-Eyes stopped talking and no matter what I did, I couldn't exit. Control alt W wouldn't work and it took a hard shut down and a reboot to solve the problem. If anyone has a Paypal account, can they please try the website and see how they get on? Using Windows 7 Home Premium and latest version of Window-Eyes. Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: stability versus new browse mode
Bob, Butch said that the infamous ALT CTRL W command to restart a silent WE, does not work, and that he had to do a Cold Boot of his system to regain Speech. I too find I need to do a Cold Boot about half the time. There are enough people who are having issues that it should not be ignored, in hopes that those of us with these random failures will just go away. Glad you are having success with WE 9.X, at least someone is. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
stability versus new browse mode
Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I had to reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't characterize the stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this problem is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Windows 10 surprise
Hi, As I said in an earlier post, these automatic updates can be good for security, but bad if Microsoft screws up. This morning, I found that the Task Manager functionality has changed. The task manager no longer reports on all processes running, it just shows app processes that are running. -- Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: stability versus new browse mode
Butch, My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window Eyes development team! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
stability versus new browse mode
Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in beta. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Word 10 Question
Very good!! Forgot about that method. It's very worthwhile to play around with that method to get all kinds of characters. Let's see, now, will it work in notepad? Or in Wordpad? Louis Gosselin -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 7:28 AM To: Karen Poulakos ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Word 10 Question Hello, This link should help: http://www.informationweek.com/desktop/a-quick-way-to-insert-the-cent-symbol -in-word/d/d-id/1098701? Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Karen Poulakos via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 11:13 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Word 10 Question Is there a way to insert a cents sign in a Word 10 document. I know where the dollar sign is, but I would prefer to use a cent sign. Thanks. Karen P ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40a isquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gosselin_louis %40myfairpoint.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 start & notifications
Hi, Win-a will also bring up the action center. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:17 PM To: 'Alan Siman' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Win 10 start & notifications Hi Alan, So, if your focus is on the icons on the desktop, and you press Shift-Tab twice, focus should then be brought to the Notification area. If you then press right arrow twice, you should come to an icon entitled "Notification center button". If you do, then pressing spacebar on this button should open a dialog entitled Action Center where you can tab through the most recent notifications, with options to dismiss them. As for the Start menu, I press the Start button, and press Shift-tab once and this brings me to a button called Start, although, if you tab away and shift-tab back to it, it becomes called All apps. Pressing spacebar on this should open the list of apps listed alphabetically, where you must press Enter on the item you wish to select before you can interact with the options for that item. I understand that all of this might not help, as it sounds like you're having tracking issues, but I wanted to at least summarize the steps for finding the controls you're seeking. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk Sent: September 11, 2015 8:33 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Win 10 start & notifications Spoke with AI staff but they could not solve my problem. Using we9.2 32 home premium and win 10 I cannot read the start menu or the notification list. I installed start 10 to replace the win10 start menu with the win7 and this works just fine but still no luck with notifications except if I use the mouse. On 9/5/2015 1:50 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote: > Someone asked about the hot key for bookmarks in google crome. Did > anyone give an answer? I too am seeking this info. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alansiman%40co x.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and Doro PDF Printer
Hi, Try Cute PDF. You can get it from ninite.com http://www.ninite.com/cutepdf Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Janet Brandly via Talk Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 PM To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and Doro PDF Printer Hello Rod and All, The forms have standard controls such as radiobuttons, checkboxes, editboxes, etc. which can be filled out using WE 9.2. Unfortunately, I don't have Kurzweil. Thanks, Jan -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:18 PM To: 'Janet Brandly' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: WE 9.2 and Doro PDF Printer Hi Jan, How is it that you are able to fill out the forms, that is, what software are you using? I'm familiar with PDF printer drivers, and it might interest you to know that Kurzweil 1000 has a facility to scan, fill out, and then print forms. Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Janet Brandly via Talk Sent: September 11, 2015 12:59 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: WE 9.2 and Doro PDF Printer Hello, There are some PdF forms I have to complete which, when filled in , are set up such that they cannot be saved I need to be able to refer back to these completed forms so I’ve tried printing them to PDF using Doro. However, WE does not read the information I have added. Would someone please tell me how to change this? Thanks, Jan ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Word 10 Question
Hello, This link should help: http://www.informationweek.com/desktop/a-quick-way-to-insert-the-cent-symbol-in-word/d/d-id/1098701? Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Karen Poulakos via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 11:13 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Word 10 Question Is there a way to insert a cents sign in a Word 10 document. I know where the dollar sign is, but I would prefer to use a cent sign. Thanks. Karen P ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
When starting up Word, you may have to press F6 a few times to get into the correct pane. If you use Insert-Tab to get a list of particular items of interest, it can take several seconds to generate the list and several more seconds when you switch to a different type of object to list. If you have to use ctrl-alt-W to restart Window-Eyes, sometimes it helps to move focus away from the problem program to a less-active program. Try Windows-M before ctrl-Alt-W and see what happens. Also note that it can take several seconds for the restart process to happen. If you only have 2 GB of RAM, you will run into a lot of these systems. 4 GB is plenty, in my experience. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Veronica Smith asks: Unfortunately, WE just goes out to lunch while I am in a word doc as well. It truly frustrates me. Dear Veronica, It frustrates a whole lot of us Window-Eyes users. And it has frustrated us for a very long time. Some how GW Micro can't seem to correct the problem. At least now we can easily get the voice back by typing ctrl alt W. -Bob Ringwald ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
It's easy to say AI Squared should fix the problem. Unfortunately, no software company, no matter how large or how small, can replicate every single possible combination of computer configurations and permutations. Unless you work for a large corporation where each PC is a clone of your coworker, it is highly unlikely that any WE user's PC is configured identically to that of another WE user. There's Win 7, 8.0, 8.1 and 10. There's a plethora of patches. Various browsers, email clients, versions of Flash and java, etc., not to mention all the different web sites and applications. Software companies maintain a set of computers with the most likely software operating systems and applications to use for testing their software and simulating user environments. But even in these controlled environments, it is impossible to perform every combination of possibilities. For example, is an email client running when working in Word? Was a web browser running? If so, what page was being displayed? The combinations are staggering. When you experience WE not behaving as expected, writing that it's broke and AI Squared should fix it is insufficient and counter productive. For example, on my work PC, WE will occasionally stop talking. If I simply wrote that in an email to AI Squared, there is not enough information for them to even attempt to replicate the problem at their site. But if I instead wrote: WE occasionally stops talking. If I ALT-Tab away from the current program and then back, WE will resume talking. Wile this is better, it is still probably not enough. Now , if I add the fact that this only happens when Lotus Notes is running and that every time Lotus Notes replicates it database, WE stops talking, AI squared has something more tangible to work with. Adding my PC configuration and what programs were running in the background can also help. Win 7 Pro 64-bit, 12 G RAM, Office 2010, Lotus Notes 6.5. Usually, problems are due to a unique combination of events that has occurred. If this were not the case, AI Squared would have most likely experienced the issue during their testing.When you experience WE not behaving as you expect, try to replicate it in a minimal environment. Reboot your PC and try to get it to happen without other programs running in the background. Slowily add more applications until you can get the problem to reoccur. Write down the steps in detail. Now, attempt to replicate repeating your steps. Yes, I know this is a lot of work. This is what software testers do every day. It is not enough to tell someone that it ain't working as expected. You need to thell them how to repeat your actions so that they can see the same results. Only then can you expect a software company to expend resources to fix your repeatable problem. Rick -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+softwarethatworks=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Singing Sparrow via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:13 AM To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? really aisquared should really fix these problems, there is no real reason that the problems could not be fixed, it sounds like they just don't want to do this. On 9/13/2015 10:42 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: > Veronica Smith asks: > > Unfortunately, WE just goes out to lunch while I am in a word doc as > well. > It truly frustrates me. > > > Dear Veronica, > > It frustrates a whole lot of us Window-Eyes users. And it has > frustrated us for a very long time. > > Some how GW Micro can't seem to correct the problem. At least now we > can easily get the voice back by typing ctrl alt W. > > -Bob Ringwald > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sunshine%40abe .midco.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/softwarethatwo rks%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Can't really be the PC when it's doing it with just about e very one'''s pc. -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:40 AM To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? because aisquared always states it is your computer not our product. On 9/14/2015 12:20 AM, Nick Sarames wrote: How do you know there's no reason these problems can't be fixxed, when you don't know what the problems are? On 9/14/2015 1:13 AM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote: really aisquared should really fix these problems, there is no real reason that the problems could not be fixed, it sounds like they just don't want to do this. On 9/13/2015 10:42 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Veronica Smith asks: Unfortunately, WE just goes out to lunch while I am in a word doc as well. It truly frustrates me. Dear Veronica, It frustrates a whole lot of us Window-Eyes users. And it has frustrated us for a very long time. Some how GW Micro can't seem to correct the problem. At least now we can easily get the voice back by typing ctrl alt W. -Bob Ringwald ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sunshine%40abe.midco.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: attachments frustrating
With outlook open, go to the Window-eyes control panel with control-backslash. Press alt-a for apps and move down and see if you have Office enhance and Outlook Enhance. If you do, press alt to go back to the Window-eyes control panel. If you do not, from the run dialog type/paste the following commands: %wineyes%\outlookenhance.wepm Press enter twice. And %wineyes%\officeenhance.wepm Press enter twice. Next Go to Your Outlook inbox. Press alt-f, t, a, a, tab 4 times. Down arrow to disabled items. Tab to the go button and press enter. Do you have an item called Outlook Enhance. It may have some other characters around it. If you do, press space on it and shift-tab to an enable button. And press enter. Finally tab to the close button and press enter. Do the same if you are in the previous dialog. If that fails, from the run dialog type/paste the following command: %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users\default\OutlookEnhanceAddin.vsto This should reinstall the Outlook Enhance add on. The next thing you can do is make sure the settings in KB2044 are followed. http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB2044 Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Smith via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 5:26 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: attachments frustrating Please could someone point me in the correct direction. When using Office 2010, windows 7, I cannot what so ever open an attachment. I hit Alt 7 and it says no attachment found. I tab up to where the attachment is and it says Attachment button. And still I cannot get it. If I sent, forward the email to someone else, they cannot get it either. However, I have talked to others that received the same email and they get it. Ger! Veronica ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Except, sometimes Ctrl, alt, W doesn't work. Only with a reboot does it return -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking? Veronica Smith asks: Unfortunately, WE just goes out to lunch while I am in a word doc as well. It truly frustrates me. Dear Veronica, It frustrates a whole lot of us Window-Eyes users. And it has frustrated us for a very long time. Some how GW Micro can't seem to correct the problem. At least now we can easily get the voice back by typing ctrl alt W. -Bob Ringwald ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Why does Window-Eyes just stop talking?
Hi: I think they would love to fix this problem if they had the tools and skills if they could. But, be assured they are not just sitting around drinking beer and watching football while their bread and butter goes bad. About a decade ago WindowEyes was, in fact, the most solid and user friendly screen reader on the market in my opinion. Today with all the new technicals, and I am guessing the legacy design and tools they now use, not so much. But, even though I understand your frustration completely, to say they are not concerned is just spouting your frustration. Remember their jobs and their famlies future incomes depend on getting it right if they can. This is their profession, their livelyhoods and even their major source of professional reputation so I don't think they are not trying. But wanting to do something and having the ability to do something are 2 quite diferent things is something we were taught in Grad School and is, of course, common sense for anyone who ever tried to design and implement any larger project - think large and complex wedding perhaps and that is simple compared to what AI Squared is looking at. I too am frustrated but either have to live with what they can do or move on and, so far, I am hanging in with WindowEyes since I have a decade or more invested in learning the product and even working a little with scripting and several of the group members and a couple of the AI Squared staff from time to time. Rick USA. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
