date:20171217

RE: Win10 and WE

2017-12-17 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk

you keep getting bogged down in recent folders and stuff? 
1. Press windows I for settings.
2. Right arrow or tab into the list view tab works best.
3. Right arrow to personizalation in the list view sorry that is 
personalization…
4. Press enter on personalization.
5. Tab to the list iew view once more.
6. Down arrow to themes.
7. Hit enter to select themes.
8. Tab through themes till you get to the desktop icons link and hit enter.
9. Now you can customize your icons.
10. Once done, and you hit ok your new settings are saved.
11. To make your start menu less cluttered there is also a start menu 
customizer in the personalization section in windows10 settings.
12. Windows10 is excellent. And I would not ever go back to windows7, not even 
if you paid me to do so!!!

Josh
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RE: Win10 and WE

2017-12-17 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk

To see the size of the disk, if using NVDA first press insert n for NVDA menu, 
go into preferences, go down to  object presentation, press enter. Make sure 
show or read tooltips is checked and most other things in that dialog are 
checked. Tab to ok and hit enter then press control insert c to save settings. 
Now go into this pc. You’re in a list view. Hit the end key on the keyboard and 
you’ll be at the bottom of the list where your hard drives are at. Left arrow 
to the c: drive. NVDA will tell you the c: drive is highlighted, and if you 
stay there a second or two longer NVDA will read its tooltip and tell you how 
much of the drive is used, and how much is free. 


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 21:42
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Win10 and WE

Hi,

My first question is a bit trivial.  In My Computer, I could arrow or 
tab to see the size of the disk and how much space was left. Is there a 
way to do this in Win10?

Also, Is there a way to get Win10 to behave more like Win7?  I keep 
getting bogged down in the recent folder and favorites and all I want to 
do is have things back like they used to be, grin. I know things will be 
different, but for now, it seems like there are way too many levels and 
to get where I want to be, I sometimes fine myself in level 5 or 6.  Can 
anyone give me any quick fixes to get myself organized?  Thanks lots.

Carol


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Win10 and WE

2017-12-17 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk


Hi,

My first question is a bit trivial.  In My Computer, I could arrow or 
tab to see the size of the disk and how much space was left. Is there a 
way to do this in Win10?


Also, Is there a way to get Win10 to behave more like Win7?  I keep 
getting bogged down in the recent folder and favorites and all I want to 
do is have things back like they used to be, grin. I know things will be 
different, but for now, it seems like there are way too many levels and 
to get where I want to be, I sometimes fine myself in level 5 or 6.  Can 
anyone give me any quick fixes to get myself organized?  Thanks lots.


Carol


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Re: app problems

2017-12-17 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk

Here is a link where you can download the TB app.  It is version 0.7 or 
something like that.  As far as I know, it is the only version.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ga51hj2avjklup/thunderbird0.7.wepm?dl=0

Carol

P.S. Please let me when you have downloaded it.  Thanks.


On 12/17/2017 9:35 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello


I have just got a new machine but can't downloadf either of the apps 
for Thunderbird.Are the apps still available via "app get"?



With thanks in advance


Mike.

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RE: Looks to be fixed: was New frustrations with TB, please help

2017-12-17 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi Larry,

What you have experienced speaks to the need to consider two points:
It is worthwhile to reboot your machine periodically, perhaps every few days, 
if it's not too inconvenient.
Also, Window-Eyes sometimes requires a restart when it has difficulty properly 
reporting the currently focused item.

Best,

Rod

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: December 17, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Tom Kingston via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Looks to be fixed: was New frustrations with TB, please help

Hey Tom and all who have tried to help.

It looks like I may have fixed this problem in a rather unexpected way.

When I would try to close any of the windows representing a session of 
TB, I was getting the impression that these windows weren't actually 
shutting, because when returning to the desktop, and pressing alt-tab, I 
would see other windows that were actually opened at the same time, all 
     of them TBe session windows.

You will recall that I took to going to task manager to shut down TB 
when it appeared that these windows weren't shutting on their own. But 
again, it turns out that for some reason that other sessions previously 
loaded hadn't shut. I don't know how many days this went on, but after 
going to the task viewer and closing them individually from there, all 
of my issues seemed to have disappeared, or lets hope so anyway.

This one just seemed to be to weird for words, but it now seems to be 
resolved.

Again, thanks for all of your

  suggestions. They definitely seemed logical enough, but apparently 
logic just didn't apply here .

All of you have a great day, and thanks again,

Larry
On 12/17/2017 7:19 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> I have no idea why the message filter dialog would pop up every time 
> you open TB. But have you tried closing that window with Control-W? 
> Just a guess.
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 12/17/2017 6:26 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>> Yes Nick, and that is just what I have been forced to do. However, I 
>> still have this issue where TB refuses to close on its own, making it 
>> necessary to go to the task manager.
>>
>>
>> I guess the only reason I really find this filter thing so annoying 
>> is that nothing I do seems to satisfy. I cannot use the keyboard 
>> option to accept the invitation to let it do its thing, whatever that 
>> is. I don't see any messages that it apparently needs to filter 
>> either, and I don't think I've been missing anything. This is just 
>> very unusual behavior. It even takes longer for TB to load since I've 
>> returned home.
>>
>>
>> I don't remember what my previous version number was, so don't think 
>> I can determine if I have been updated or what. I'm just hoping that 
>> if I haven't, that a later update wont reveal new accessibility 
>> issues, like unto Firefox, but so far, none of those that I can 
>> presently see.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Nick for at least helping me think this thing through. But who 
>> knows, maybe this little issue will just suddenly disappear. And it 
>> may be  something I do, but I wont even be able to guess what it was 
>> .
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2017 3:39 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
>>> I probably don't do as much with TBird as you do, but if you can get to
>>> your inbox (for example), can't you ignore the filters option?
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2017 4:35 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
 Well Nick, no problem finding my inbox, but the filter thing, as 
 well as
 this annoyance of not being able to close TD just will not go away. At
 least there is that usual faithful remedy of the task manager. It 
 seems
 to work every time. Only wish I had a shortcut directly to the TB 
 option
 without having to wait for the manager to open .

 The only other problem approaching this one was when I was being told
 that messages were being considered as junk. That time, if I remember
 correctly, just pressing F8 got rid of that one. Something to do with
 the preview pane, or whatever that is called. Sorry, I'm half asleep,
 and my meds seem to be having their effect .

 On 12/17/2017 2:58 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
> I've had this occasionally.  Usually I tab around (frantically) 
> until I
> can find my inbox.
>
> On 12/16/2017 5:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>> Hey listers,
>>
>>
>> Since spending four days in the hospital after dropping the DTBM 
>> on my
>> foot, something has started to happen with my Thunderbird that is 
>> not
>> helping with my recuperation.
>>
>>
>> For some reason, I keep getting a box that seems to ask me if I 
>> wish to
>> filter some messages with the key commands of ctrl-shift-k, but 
>> it is in
>> an edit box that I cannot move around in, and

Re: Looks to be fixed: was New frustrations with TB, please help

2017-12-17 Thread David via Talk

Whatever was the case, I am glad you got it all fixed.


For a later time, you might want to keep in mind the suggested approach, 
that someone else gave you. The Filter-stuff, is normally turned on with 
Ctrl-K. To get it turned off, you go to the View-menu of Thunderbird, by 
hitting Alt-V. In here, go to Toolbars, hit Right-Arrow, and arrow your 
way down to the Filter setting. It likely will be Checked, causing the 
filter screen to come up. Never understood what filtering it would do, 
or why it by default is turned on when you install Thunderbird. But all 
you have to do, once focused on the setting in the Toolbar-menu, is to 
press Enter. The menu will close, the Filtering will be turned off, and 
you will be acting as normal.


Furthermore, when in a screen of Thunderbird, and you want to get out of 
it, it might be worth trying either the Ctrl-W, or even the F6. First 
one will attempt to close your current tab, the latter will attempt 
jumping between different screen sections of the program. All quite 
standard keystrokes, that you will know from other software.


As for your tiredness and feeling overrun by medication, I am afraid 
there is little Thunderbird can do about that, other than causing you 
further issues. Smiles. Glad you got the TB issue fixed, and let's hope 
it will stay there for the near future. I have the latest version here, 
and seem to have no other than the normal operation with the program.


Hope you get well soon.


On 12/17/2017 3:35 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> Hey Tom and all who have tried to help.
>
>
> It looks like I may have fixed this problem in a rather unexpected way.
>
>
> When I would try to close any of the windows representing a session of 
> TB, I was getting the impression that these windows weren't actually 
> shutting, because when returning to the desktop, and pressing alt-tab, 
> I would see other windows that were actually opened at the same time, 
> all     of them TBe session windows.
>
>
> You will recall that I took to going to task manager to shut down TB 
> when it appeared that these windows weren't shutting on their own. But 
> again, it turns out that for some reason that other sessions 
> previously loaded hadn't shut. I don't know how many days this went 
> on, but after going to the task viewer and closing them individually 
> from there, all of my issues seemed to have disappeared, or lets hope 
> so anyway.
>
>
> This one just seemed to be to weird for words, but it now seems to be 
> resolved.
>
>
> Again, thanks for all of your
>
>  suggestions. They definitely seemed logical enough, but apparently 
> logic just didn't apply here .
>
> All of you have a great day, and thanks again,
>
> Larry
> On 12/17/2017 7:19 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>> I have no idea why the message filter dialog would pop up every time 
>> you open TB. But have you tried closing that window with Control-W? 
>> Just a guess.
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2017 6:26 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>>> Yes Nick, and that is just what I have been forced to do. However, I 
>>> still have this issue where TB refuses to close on its own, making 
>>> it necessary to go to the task manager.
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess the only reason I really find this filter thing so annoying 
>>> is that nothing I do seems to satisfy. I cannot use the keyboard 
>>> option to accept the invitation to let it do its thing, whatever 
>>> that is. I don't see any messages that it apparently needs to filter 
>>> either, and I don't think I've been missing anything. This is just 
>>> very unusual behavior. It even takes longer for TB to load since 
>>> I've returned home.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't remember what my previous version number was, so don't think 
>>> I can determine if I have been updated or what. I'm just hoping that 
>>> if I haven't, that a later update wont reveal new accessibility 
>>> issues, like unto Firefox, but so far, none of those that I can 
>>> presently see.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Nick for at least helping me think this thing through. But 
>>> who knows, maybe this little issue will just suddenly disappear. And 
>>> it may be  something I do, but I wont even be able to guess what it 
>>> was .
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2017 3:39 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
 I probably don't do as much with TBird as you do, but if you can 
 get to
 your inbox (for example), can't you ignore the filters option?

 On 12/17/2017 4:35 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> Well Nick, no problem finding my inbox, but the filter thing, as 
> well as
> this annoyance of not being able to close TD just will not go 
> away. At
> least there is that usual faithful remedy of the task manager. It 
> seems
> to work every time. Only wish I had a shortcut directly to the TB 
> option
> without having to wait for the manager to open .
>
>
> The only other problem approaching this one was when I was being told
> that

Looks to be fixed: was New frustrations with TB, please help

2017-12-17 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk


Hey Tom and all who have tried to help.


It looks like I may have fixed this problem in a rather unexpected way.


When I would try to close any of the windows representing a session of 
TB, I was getting the impression that these windows weren't actually 
shutting, because when returning to the desktop, and pressing alt-tab, I 
would see other windows that were actually opened at the same time, all 
    of them TBe session windows.



You will recall that I took to going to task manager to shut down TB 
when it appeared that these windows weren't shutting on their own. But 
again, it turns out that for some reason that other sessions previously 
loaded hadn't shut. I don't know how many days this went on, but after 
going to the task viewer and closing them individually from there, all 
of my issues seemed to have disappeared, or lets hope so anyway.



This one just seemed to be to weird for words, but it now seems to be 
resolved.



Again, thanks for all of your

 suggestions. They definitely seemed logical enough, but apparently 
logic just didn't apply here .


All of you have a great day, and thanks again,

Larry
On 12/17/2017 7:19 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
I have no idea why the message filter dialog would pop up every time 
you open TB. But have you tried closing that window with Control-W? 
Just a guess.

Regards,
Tom


On 12/17/2017 6:26 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
Yes Nick, and that is just what I have been forced to do. However, I 
still have this issue where TB refuses to close on its own, making it 
necessary to go to the task manager.



I guess the only reason I really find this filter thing so annoying 
is that nothing I do seems to satisfy. I cannot use the keyboard 
option to accept the invitation to let it do its thing, whatever that 
is. I don't see any messages that it apparently needs to filter 
either, and I don't think I've been missing anything. This is just 
very unusual behavior. It even takes longer for TB to load since I've 
returned home.



I don't remember what my previous version number was, so don't think 
I can determine if I have been updated or what. I'm just hoping that 
if I haven't, that a later update wont reveal new accessibility 
issues, like unto Firefox, but so far, none of those that I can 
presently see.



Thanks Nick for at least helping me think this thing through. But who 
knows, maybe this little issue will just suddenly disappear. And it 
may be  something I do, but I wont even be able to guess what it was 
.



On 12/17/2017 3:39 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

I probably don't do as much with TBird as you do, but if you can get to
your inbox (for example), can't you ignore the filters option?

On 12/17/2017 4:35 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
Well Nick, no problem finding my inbox, but the filter thing, as 
well as

this annoyance of not being able to close TD just will not go away. At
least there is that usual faithful remedy of the task manager. It 
seems
to work every time. Only wish I had a shortcut directly to the TB 
option

without having to wait for the manager to open .


The only other problem approaching this one was when I was being told
that messages were being considered as junk. That time, if I remember
correctly, just pressing F8 got rid of that one. Something to do with
the preview pane, or whatever that is called. Sorry, I'm half asleep,
and my meds seem to be having their effect .


On 12/17/2017 2:58 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
I've had this occasionally.  Usually I tab around (frantically) 
until I

can find my inbox.

On 12/16/2017 5:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Hey listers,


Since spending four days in the hospital after dropping the DTBM 
on my
foot, something has started to happen with my Thunderbird that is 
not

helping with my recuperation.


For some reason, I keep getting a box that seems to ask me if I 
wish to
filter some messages with the key commands of ctrl-shift-k, but 
it is in

an edit box that I cannot move around in, and for some reason, maybe
related to this, it is making it impossible to close TB as a Window
using F4. Therefore, I have to use the task manager to shut down TB.


Could it be that TB has been updated since I've been away, and now
presenting me with these new issues?


Well,my foot is really starting to hurt again, so I'd better sign 
out
and hope that one of you can help me out of this rather 
irritating mess.



Any help will surely be greatly appreciated,


Larry

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app problems

2017-12-17 Thread Mike via Talk


Hello


I have just got a new machine but can't downloadf either of the apps for 
Thunderbird.    Are the apps still available via "app get"?



With thanks in advance


Mike.

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Re: New frustrations with TB, please help

2017-12-17 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

I have no idea why the message filter dialog would pop up every time you
open TB. But have you tried closing that window with Control-W? Just a
guess.

Regards,
Tom

On 12/17/2017 6:26 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
Yes Nick, and that is just what I have been forced to do. However, I
still have this issue where TB refuses to close on its own, making it
necessary to go to the task manager.

I guess the only reason I really find this filter thing so annoying is
that nothing I do seems to satisfy. I cannot use the keyboard option to
accept the invitation to let it do its thing, whatever that is. I don't
see any messages that it apparently needs to filter either, and I don't
think I've been missing anything. This is just very unusual behavior. It
even takes longer for TB to load since I've returned home.

I don't remember what my previous version number was, so don't think I
can determine if I have been updated or what. I'm just hoping that if I
haven't, that a later update wont reveal new accessibility issues, like
unto Firefox, but so far, none of those that I can presently see.

Thanks Nick for at least helping me think this thing through. But who
knows, maybe this little issue will just suddenly disappear. And it may
be something I do, but I wont even be able to guess what it was .

On 12/17/2017 3:39 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

I probably don't do as much with TBird as you do, but if you can get to
your inbox (for example), can't you ignore the filters option?

On 12/17/2017 4:35 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Well Nick, no problem finding my inbox, but the filter thing, as well as
this annoyance of not being able to close TD just will not go away. At
least there is that usual faithful remedy of the task manager. It seems
to work every time. Only wish I had a shortcut directly to the TB option
without having to wait for the manager to open .

The only other problem approaching this one was when I was being told
that messages were being considered as junk. That time, if I remember
correctly, just pressing F8 got rid of that one. Something to do with
the preview pane, or whatever that is called. Sorry, I'm half asleep,
and my meds seem to be having their effect .

On 12/17/2017 2:58 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

I've had this occasionally. Usually I tab around (frantically) until I
can find my inbox.

On 12/16/2017 5:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Hey listers,

Since spending four days in the hospital after dropping the DTBM on my
foot, something has started to happen with my Thunderbird that is not
helping with my recuperation.

For some reason, I keep getting a box that seems to ask me if I
wish to
filter some messages with the key commands of ctrl-shift-k, but it
is in

an edit box that I cannot move around in, and for some reason, maybe
related to this, it is making it impossible to close TB as a Window
using F4. Therefore, I have to use the task manager to shut down TB.

Could it be that TB has been updated since I've been away, and now
presenting me with these new issues?

Well,my foot is really starting to hurt again, so I'd better sign out
and hope that one of you can help me out of this rather irritating
mess.

Any help will surely be greatly appreciated,

Larry

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Re: New frustrations with TB, please help

2017-12-17 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Yes Nick, and that is just what I have been forced to do. However, I
still have this issue where TB refuses to close on its own, making it
necessary to go to the task manager.

On 12/17/2017 3:39 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

I probably don't do as much with TBird as you do, but if you can get to
your inbox (for example), can't you ignore the filters option?

On 12/17/2017 4:35 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

On 12/17/2017 2:58 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

I've had this occasionally. Usually I tab around (frantically) until I
can find my inbox.

On 12/16/2017 5:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Hey listers,

Since spending four days in the hospital after dropping the DTBM on my
foot, something has started to happen with my Thunderbird that is not
helping with my recuperation.

For some reason, I keep getting a box that seems to ask me if I wish to
filter some messages with the key commands of ctrl-shift-k, but it is in
an edit box that I cannot move around in, and for some reason, maybe
related to this, it is making it impossible to close TB as a Window
using F4. Therefore, I have to use the task manager to shut down TB.

Could it be that TB has been updated since I've been away, and now
presenting me with these new issues?

Well,my foot is really starting to hurt again, so I'd better sign out
and hope that one of you can help me out of this rather irritating mess.