Re: [OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

[Andrew Errington]

On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 21:26:26 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> the suggestion for a toilet attribute on a POI according to
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets is "toilets",
> that's why I suggest you change the wording in your proposal to plural.
> IMHO the most logical way would be toilets:wheelchair=yes/no but
> wheelchair:toilets is currently used far more often.

Yes!  I don't understand why people ignore the wiki.

Tagging is already defined for amenity=toilet (wheelchair=yes/no/limited), why 
not use that?

wheelchair:toilets is not even documented, so why is it used more often?

Best wishes,

Andrew

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Re: [OSM-talk] Seeing changesets confined to an area

[David Richfield]

Thanks, this did the job!  I haven't tried out the other option yet. Will
check it out when I get home.

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On 7 Jun 2013 16:26, "didier2020"  wrote:

> Le vendredi 07 juin 2013 à 13:17 +0100, David Richfield a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to see changesets that affect an area, and all I'm seeing when
> > I click on "history" are changesets that affect map elements that are
> > scattered across a huge area, but don't affect anything in the area I
> > specified.
> >
> > Is there a way to find changesets that actually affect a map element
> > in the selected area?  I suppose the reason that the history search
> > doesn't already do that is that it's much easier to just search for
> > bounding boxes, but is there a way to filter the search afterwards?
> try
>
> http://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/?lat=6.6281&lon=3.3446&zoom=13
>
> cheers
> didier
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

[colliar]

Am 07.06.2013 14:26, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/6/7 Christoph Bünte  >
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> we at wheelmap.org  want to take our service to
> the next level by tagging public places wether there is an
> wheelchair accessible toilet or not. To start the discussion we
> prepared an key proposal:
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wheelchair:toilet
> 
> Please let us know what you think about it.

There is a little typo under "applies to" first word.

> 
> the proposal looks reasonable at first glance, if you see this as an
> attribute to something (and it will definitely be easier to evaluate
> this way). An alternative might be to tag explicitly the toilet and add
> wheelchair tags to the toilet.
> 
> I checked with tag info and there are already tags in use:
> 
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/toilets
> e.g.
> wheelchair:*toilets*
> 
> *toilets*:wheelchair
> 
> 
> the suggestion for a toilet attribute on a POI according
> to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets is
> "toilets", that's why I suggest you change the wording in your proposal
> to plural. IMHO the most logical way would be toilets:wheelchair=yes/no
> but wheelchair:toilets is currently used far more often.

+1, for toilets:wheelchair=0-100, or even toilets:wheelchair:female=1

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Re: [OSM-talk] Parking map

[Dave Sutter]

Leaflet is a very easy to Map API that supports vector data. One option is
to download OSM data and convert it to GeoJSON and use a GeoJSON layer.

Dave


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Gervase Markham  wrote:

> On 06/06/13 22:02, colliar wrote:
> > Do you know this map ? Would be a start.
> >
> > http://parking.openstreetmap.de/
>
> I have seen that, yes, thank you. But that does not have the capability
> to update the parking info based on the time of day. And it would be
> hard to add it, because the tiles are rendered PNGs, not vector data.
>
> So I think that my problem requires a fairly different solution.
>
> Has anyone done any sort of application which involves downloading OSM
> data from an API and rendering it (using SVG or otherwise) on top of a
> tile baselayer?
>
> Gerv
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Re: [OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

[Svavar Kjarrval]

It would not hurt to have this information as yes/no would still be an
option.

- Svavar Kjarrval

On 07/06/13 15:55, Gervase Markham wrote:
> On 07/06/13 16:02, John F. Eldredge wrote:
>> In my experience, usually only one stall in a public restroom will have
>> the larger size and handrails needed for wheelchair use. I have only
>> seen a few extra-large restrooms which were equipped to handle more than
>> one wheelchair-using person at a time. Thus, it would be useful to be
>> able to tag the number of such stalls.
> Really? On how many occasions do you think that someone is going to make
> a different decision based on the availability of that information?
>
> One would need to be a wheelchair user approximately equidistant between
> two toilets, with neither being on the way to where you are going next,
> and some concern that the area happened to currently be populated by an
> unusually large number of wheelchair users (a convention, perhaps?), in
> a situation where waiting a few minutes for a toilet would be a deep
> inconvenience, using an OpenStreetMap client which made available data
> about the number of wheelchair-accessible stalls in each toilet.
>
> This seems somewhat unlikely, to me at least.
>
> Gerv
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Re: [OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

[Gervase Markham]

On 07/06/13 16:02, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> In my experience, usually only one stall in a public restroom will have
> the larger size and handrails needed for wheelchair use. I have only
> seen a few extra-large restrooms which were equipped to handle more than
> one wheelchair-using person at a time. Thus, it would be useful to be
> able to tag the number of such stalls.

Really? On how many occasions do you think that someone is going to make
a different decision based on the availability of that information?

One would need to be a wheelchair user approximately equidistant between
two toilets, with neither being on the way to where you are going next,
and some concern that the area happened to currently be populated by an
unusually large number of wheelchair users (a convention, perhaps?), in
a situation where waiting a few minutes for a toilet would be a deep
inconvenience, using an OpenStreetMap client which made available data
about the number of wheelchair-accessible stalls in each toilet.

This seems somewhat unlikely, to me at least.

Gerv


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Re: [OSM-talk] Parking map

[Gervase Markham]

On 06/06/13 22:02, colliar wrote:
> Do you know this map ? Would be a start.
> 
> http://parking.openstreetmap.de/

I have seen that, yes, thank you. But that does not have the capability
to update the parking info based on the time of day. And it would be
hard to add it, because the tiles are rendered PNGs, not vector data.

So I think that my problem requires a fairly different solution.

Has anyone done any sort of application which involves downloading OSM
data from an API and rendering it (using SVG or otherwise) on top of a
tile baselayer?

Gerv


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Re: [OSM-talk] Seeing changesets confined to an area

[didier2020]

Le vendredi 07 juin 2013 à 13:17 +0100, David Richfield a écrit : 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to see changesets that affect an area, and all I'm seeing when
> I click on "history" are changesets that affect map elements that are
> scattered across a huge area, but don't affect anything in the area I
> specified.
> 
> Is there a way to find changesets that actually affect a map element
> in the selected area?  I suppose the reason that the history search
> doesn't already do that is that it's much easier to just search for
> bounding boxes, but is there a way to filter the search afterwards?
try
http://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/?lat=6.6281&lon=3.3446&zoom=13

cheers
didier



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Re: [OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

[John F. Eldredge]

In my experience, usually only one stall in a public restroom will have the 
larger size and handrails needed for wheelchair use.  I have only seen a few 
extra-large restrooms which were equipped to handle more than one 
wheelchair-using person at a time.  Thus, it would be useful to be able to tag 
the number of such stalls.


Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
>2013/6/7 Christoph Bünte 
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> we at wheelmap.org want to take our service to the next level by
>tagging
>> public places wether there is an wheelchair accessible toilet or not.
>To
>> start the discussion we prepared an key proposal:
>>
>>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wheelchair:toilet
>>
>> Please let us know what you think about it.
>>
>>
>
>the proposal looks reasonable at first glance, if you see this as an
>attribute to something (and it will definitely be easier to evaluate
>this
>way). An alternative might be to tag explicitly the toilet and add
>wheelchair tags to the toilet.
>
>I checked with tag info and there are already tags in use:
>
>http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/toilets
>e.g.
>wheelchair:*toilets*
>*toilets*:wheelchair
>
>the suggestion for a toilet attribute on a POI according to
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets is "toilets",
>that's why I suggest you change the wording in your proposal to plural.
>IMHO the most logical way would be toilets:wheelchair=yes/no but
>wheelchair:toilets is currently used far more often.
>
>cheers,
>Martin
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Seeing changesets confined to an area

[Paweł Paprota]

http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013, at 14:17, David Richfield wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to see changesets that affect an area, and all I'm seeing when
> I click on "history" are changesets that affect map elements that are
> scattered across a huge area, but don't affect anything in the area I
> specified.
> 
> Is there a way to find changesets that actually affect a map element
> in the selected area?  I suppose the reason that the history search
> doesn't already do that is that it's much easier to just search for
> bounding boxes, but is there a way to filter the search afterwards?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> David Richfield
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Re: [OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2013/6/7 Christoph Bünte 

> Hi everyone,
>
> we at wheelmap.org want to take our service to the next level by tagging
> public places wether there is an wheelchair accessible toilet or not. To
> start the discussion we prepared an key proposal:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wheelchair:toilet
>
> Please let us know what you think about it.
>
>

the proposal looks reasonable at first glance, if you see this as an
attribute to something (and it will definitely be easier to evaluate this
way). An alternative might be to tag explicitly the toilet and add
wheelchair tags to the toilet.

I checked with tag info and there are already tags in use:

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/toilets
e.g.
wheelchair:*toilets*
*toilets*:wheelchair

the suggestion for a toilet attribute on a POI according to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets is "toilets",
that's why I suggest you change the wording in your proposal to plural.
IMHO the most logical way would be toilets:wheelchair=yes/no but
wheelchair:toilets is currently used far more often.

cheers,
Martin
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[OSM-talk] Seeing changesets confined to an area

[David Richfield]

Hi,

I want to see changesets that affect an area, and all I'm seeing when
I click on "history" are changesets that affect map elements that are
scattered across a huge area, but don't affect anything in the area I
specified.

Is there a way to find changesets that actually affect a map element
in the selected area?  I suppose the reason that the history search
doesn't already do that is that it's much easier to just search for
bounding boxes, but is there a way to filter the search afterwards?

Thanks,

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[OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

[Christoph Bünte]

Hi everyone,

we at wheelmap.org want to take our service to the next level by tagging public 
places wether there is an wheelchair accessible toilet or not. To start the 
discussion we prepared an key proposal: 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wheelchair:toilet

Please let us know what you think about it.


Cheers, Christoph
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