Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
Dave F. wrote: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: (Which is a pretty stupid thing, given that tourists ought to know all the local web portals when preparing a trip, instead of going to e.g. OSM or Wikitravel) I dunno. That kind of site is usually a site for sore eyes. If they've got the attitude that we want our site to be the only source of information about our area it means that they don't get the web and that the site isn't going to be a good source of information. I have to concur with Ivan. Whenever I've travelled the English tourist board appears to have a limited number of hotels on its books, usually of the middle to expensive variety. Does anybody know if they work on commission? In a lot of places the Tourist Office is actually (or practically) a cooperative sponsored by certain businesses, generally the larger and more expensive ones. This is true of restaurants as much as it is of hotels. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
2009/9/29 Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com: In a lot of places the Tourist Office is actually (or practically) a cooperative sponsored by certain businesses, generally the larger and more expensive ones. This is true of restaurants as much as it is of hotels. In regional parts of Australia it's usually funded by the local council in a lot if not most cases I know of. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
El Lunes, 28 de Septiembre de 2009, Paul Houle escribió: [...] If they've got the attitude that we want our site to be the only source of information about our area it means that they don't get the web and that the site isn't going to be a good source of information. No, it doesn't mean that. If they don't get the web (and that happens a lot of times), it means that they don't get that sharing data is good. On the other hand, they might have tons of good data, but they just don't publish it on the web, publish it the wrong way (activeX), etc. The fact that they don't publish good data doesn't mean that they don't have good data. Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es http://ivan.sanchezortega.es MSN:i_eat_s_p_a_m_for_breakf...@hotmail.com Jabber:ivansanc...@jabber.org ; ivansanc...@kdetalk.net IRC: ivansanchez @ OFTC freenode ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
Hi, i recently travelled to a city with nearly 40.000 inhabitants and was surprised, that almost no hotels, restaurants and other amenities were in OSM. So I had the idea to contact the tourist office with a short introduction on OSM and how to tag, to give this to shops, hotels, restaurants and so on. So with no effort, all these shops can have their business in OSM. Did anyone try this? What do you think of the idea? Kai___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
Hi, Great idea, What im working on (for Across Canada). Is actually going ahead and filling in those amenities that the typical town-visitor would like to see (myself). So I will be able to, probably using KOSMOS, create a nice map of the town, then just donate the map to the tourist office. And they can make copies of it. What i would then do is ask the people at the tourist office, for when they actually draw on the map, and indicate things which are not listed, to make a 'working-copy', so then i can go back to the tourist office at a later date, and show them (in person) how to edit the map. And make a new version, and print it off. (Considering we know that most of the time there are LOTS of things missing on other tourist maps.) :-) Alot of the tourist offices i have been to offer a computer with internet access todo local searches and email. (sometimes for a fee), and some have wi-fi. since i use a mini-notebook, it's easy to show people on-the-fly. ... at least thats what i plan on doing, once this Canada Import is well underway. .. Probably for next year. Have fun, Cheers, Sam Vekemans Across Canada Trails Twitter: @Acrosscanada Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:45 AM, k...@vielevisels k...@vielevisels.de wrote: Hi, i recently travelled to a city with nearly 40.000 inhabitants and was surprised, that almost no hotels, restaurants and other amenities were in OSM. So I had the idea to contact the tourist office with a short introduction on OSM and how to tag, to give this to shops, hotels, restaurants and so on. So with no effort, all these shops can have their business in OSM. Did anyone try this? What do you think of the idea? Kai ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
El Sábado, 26 de Septiembre de 2009, k...@vielevisels escribió: I had the idea to contact the tourist office [...] What do you think of the idea? It may work, it may not work. Some tourist offices may want to do their job and promote the city and the services and amenities it offers. On the other hand, however, some tourist offices may want *their* tourism web portal to be the *only* source of information for the city. (Which is a pretty stupid thing, given that tourists ought to know all the local web portals when preparing a trip, instead of going to e.g. OSM or Wikitravel) So, good luck ;-) -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es This is the first age that's paid much attention to the future, which is a little ironic since we may not have one. -- Arthur Clarke ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Sábado, 26 de Septiembre de 2009, k...@vielevisels escribió: I had the idea to contact the tourist office [...] What do you think of the idea? It may work, it may not work. Some tourist offices may want to do their job and promote the city and the services and amenities it offers. On the other hand, however, some tourist offices may want *their* tourism web portal to be the *only* source of information for the city. (Which is a pretty stupid thing, given that tourists ought to know all the local web portals when preparing a trip, instead of going to e.g. OSM or Wikitravel) So, good luck ;-) I have to concur with Ivan. Whenever I've travelled the English tourist board appears to have a limited number of hotels on its books, usually of the middle to expensive variety. Does anybody know if they work on commission? Also with the credit crunch, so many tourist amenities are opening/closing even reopening! it's hard for anyone to keep up. If a hotel is going out of business the last thing on the owners mind is to 'phone up the local tourist board. Best thing is to walk around your home town collating info hope there's an equivalent in the city you next want to visit. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
Yes, tourist boards are on commission, to sell the advertized hotels 1st. Anyway, to answer the initial question better, i would (will) make a map for, and give to (along with neighbouring town maps) Back Packers Hostels/ Bike shops-rental / libraries / community centers / coffee shops. As the indirect approach. ... The authors of those 'tourist maps' are also free to use OSM, ccBYsa. So completing the map helps everyone :-) cheers, Sam On 9/26/09, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Sábado, 26 de Septiembre de 2009, k...@vielevisels escribió: I had the idea to contact the tourist office [...] What do you think of the idea? It may work, it may not work. Some tourist offices may want to do their job and promote the city and the services and amenities it offers. On the other hand, however, some tourist offices may want *their* tourism web portal to be the *only* source of information for the city. (Which is a pretty stupid thing, given that tourists ought to know all the local web portals when preparing a trip, instead of going to e.g. OSM or Wikitravel) So, good luck ;-) I have to concur with Ivan. Whenever I've travelled the English tourist board appears to have a limited number of hotels on its books, usually of the middle to expensive variety. Does anybody know if they work on commission? Also with the credit crunch, so many tourist amenities are opening/closing even reopening! it's hard for anyone to keep up. If a hotel is going out of business the last thing on the owners mind is to 'phone up the local tourist board. Best thing is to walk around your home town collating info hope there's an equivalent in the city you next want to visit. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
