[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
-- Forwarded message -- From: Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery To: Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com, OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz, h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Hello I've been talking with the Google Crisis Response team, and they have confirmed: * Imagery released under Skybox for Good can be digitized into OSM under OSM's license. * The attribution requirement can be fulfilled by attributing Skybox in a given changeset and/or feature comment/tag. As well as noted on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors * While it's not a requirement, interested to start conversation about more robust attribution down the line, ala the dynamic attribution in Google Maps (something like an API to view attribution for a particular area, to integrate into web viewers) * HOT is welcome to make additional requests. They want to know the best place to formally let OSM know the above. If the gist of the above sounds reasonable, I think the best place to announce would be on legal-talk@ While we are working on the legal details, it would also be worthwhile for us to test the suitability of the imagery for OSM tracing. Is the geo-referencing and resolution fit for our purposes? Cheers Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, October 27, 2014 5:37 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Hello I've been talking with the Google Crisis Response team, and they have confirmed: * Imagery released under Skybox for Good can be digitized into OSM under OSM's license. * The attribution requirement can be fulfilled by attributing Skybox in a given changeset and/or feature comment/tag. As well as noted on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors * While it's not a requirement, interested to start conversation about more robust attribution down the line, ala the dynamic attribution in Google Maps (something like an API to view attribution for a particular area, to integrate into web viewers) * HOT is welcome to make additional requests. They want to know the best place to formally let OSM know the above. If the gist of the above sounds reasonable, I think the best place to announce would be on legal-talk@ While we are working on the legal details, it would also be worthwhile for us to test the suitability of the imagery for OSM tracing. Is the geo-referencing and resolution fit for our purposes? Cheers Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, October 27, 2014 5:37 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-br] Fwd: Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
FYI -- ## Manfred Reiter - mobile - please excuse typos and brevity -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Von: Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com Datum: 29.10.2014 06:34 Betreff: Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery An: Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com, OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz, h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Cc: Hello I've been talking with the Google Crisis Response team, and they have confirmed: * Imagery released under Skybox for Good can be digitized into OSM under OSM's license. * The attribution requirement can be fulfilled by attributing Skybox in a given changeset and/or feature comment/tag. As well as noted on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors * While it's not a requirement, interested to start conversation about more robust attribution down the line, ala the dynamic attribution in Google Maps (something like an API to view attribution for a particular area, to integrate into web viewers) * HOT is welcome to make additional requests. They want to know the best place to formally let OSM know the above. If the gist of the above sounds reasonable, I think the best place to announce would be on legal-talk@ While we are working on the legal details, it would also be worthwhile for us to test the suitability of the imagery for OSM tracing. Is the geo-referencing and resolution fit for our purposes? Cheers Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, October 27, 2014 5:37 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Ed ecco la definitiva via libera al usi delle immagini SkyBox -- Forwarded message -- From: Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com Date: 2014-10-29 13:32 GMT+02:00 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery To: Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com, OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz, h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Hello I've been talking with the Google Crisis Response team, and they have confirmed: * Imagery released under Skybox for Good can be digitized into OSM under OSM's license. * The attribution requirement can be fulfilled by attributing Skybox in a given changeset and/or feature comment/tag. As well as noted on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors * While it's not a requirement, interested to start conversation about more robust attribution down the line, ala the dynamic attribution in Google Maps (something like an API to view attribution for a particular area, to integrate into web viewers) * HOT is welcome to make additional requests. They want to know the best place to formally let OSM know the above. If the gist of the above sounds reasonable, I think the best place to announce would be on legal-talk@ While we are working on the legal details, it would also be worthwhile for us to test the suitability of the imagery for OSM tracing. Is the geo-referencing and resolution fit for our purposes? Cheers Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, October 27, 2014 5:37 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi skype: asca_edom ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Hi list, Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Hi, Am 2014-10-27 um 22:35 schrieb Rob Nickerson: Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. No. CC-BY requires an attribution at every use of the data. That's why it is not compatible to our ODbL/Contributor Terms. OSM requires only an attribution of OpenStreetMap contributors and nobody else from its data users. We have some government data in Germany which is available under CC-BY. Usually the data owner granted an exemption to use the data because he was satified by attribution at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors You have to ask Skybox for a exemption to make this imagary usable for OSM. Best regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
On 10/27/2014 2:46 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: No. CC-BY requires an attribution at every use of the data. That's why it is not compatible to our ODbL/Contributor Terms. OSM requires only an attribution of OpenStreetMap contributors and nobody else from its data users. We have some government data in Germany which is available under CC-BY. Usually the data owner granted an exemption to use the data because he was satified by attribution at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors The SkyBox imagery is CC BY 4.0, which *may* be compatible. It does not have the obvious problems that earlier versions of CC BY have. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Rob IMHO only: I would suggest asking for explicit permission (to trace and to distribute the results on ODbL terms). It is not clear at all if their licence would allow it and reading the blurb it seems as if the use case they are thinking of is more online display of the images. You should ask the LWG for their opinion in any case. Simon Am 27.10.2014 22:35, schrieb Rob Nickerson: Hi list, Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Yes, let's the LWG answer about the license. Let me say that this is great what we have accomplished as an OpenStreetMap community with this Ebola outbreak. Andrew Buck and myself, and HOT as the umbrella organization are there to make the bridge between this community and the humanitarian organizations, to strenghten the relations with the humanitarian organizations. This is one mission among others in OSM and we simply cannot do such job without the OSMcommunity. The response we have received for both the Haiyan typhoon in november 2013 and for this Ebola outbreak is simply fantastic. There is a lot of media and academic attention about the progression of OpenStreetMap. Since the Haiti Earthquake in january 2010, there humanitarian organizations and UN agencies are also follwing closely the OSM community. With this unprecented response over the last 7 months with this Ebola outbreak, OSM is under the spots. The West Africa Ebola Response wiki page reports this media coverage. For this Ebola outbreak, HOT coordinates with MSF, Red Cross, UN-WHO, UN-OCHA and the Digital Humanitarian Network. To date, almost 2,000 OSM contributors from 100 countries and more then 10 millions objects edited. More then these statistics, this is the professionalism of the OSM organization, the capacity to provide a reliable environment and tools, assure connectivity with GIS softwares, propose various free Mapping services, including for small devices, and adapt quickly to the needs of the humanitarian organizations that is recognized. This professionalism of the OSM community among the various volunteer communities is the main message. Let's hope that we can keep the spirit of this community and move forward as an organization with respectful and constructive discussions. Pierre De : Simon Poole si...@poole.ch À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Lundi 27 octobre 2014 18h12 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery Rob IMHO only: I would suggest asking for explicit permission (to trace and to distribute the results on ODbL terms). It is not clear at all if their licence would allow it and reading the blurb it seems as if the use case they are thinking of is more online display of the images. You should ask the LWG for their opinion in any case. Simon Am 27.10.2014 22:35, schrieb Rob Nickerson: Hi list, Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/ Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them. Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Am 27.10.2014 22:58, schrieb Paul Norman: The SkyBox imagery is CC BY 4.0, which *may* be compatible. It does not have the obvious problems that earlier versions of CC BY have. That is the one side of it, the other is that you will find that the opinions on if tracing even creates a derivative work to be very divided (IMHO is depends on jurisdiction) and I would find explicit permission better than legal speculation and potentially ignoring the licence. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery
Hi Rob, I will let the legal committee answer about the license. Yes, this is great what we have accomplished as an OpenStreetMap community with this Ebola outbreak. Andrew Buck and myself, and HOT as the umbrella organization are there to make the bridge between this community and the humanitarian organizations, to strenghten the relations with the humanitarian organizations. We simply cannot do such job without the Osm community. The response we have received for both the Haiyan typhoon in november 2013 and for this Ebola outbreak is simply fantastic. There is a lot of media and academic attention about the progression of OpenStreetMap. Since the Haiti Earthquake in january 2010, there humanitarian organizations and UN agencies are also follwing closely the OSM community. With this unprecented response over the last 7 months with this Ebola outbreak, OSM is under the spots. See this last interview from BBC World News. For this Ebola outbreak, HOT coordinates with MSF, Red Cross, UN-WHO, UN-OCHA and the Digital Humanitarian Network. To date, almost 2,000 OSM contributors from 100 countries and more then 10 millions objects edited. More then these statistics, this is the capacity of OSM to provide a reliable environment and tools, assure connectivity with GIS softwares, propose various free Mapping services, including for small devices, and adapt quickly to the needs of the humanitarian organizations that is recognized. Professionalism of the OSM community among the various volunteer communities is the main message. Let's hope that we can keep the spirit of this community and move forward as an organization with respectful and constructive discussions. Pierre De : Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com À : OpenStreetMap talk@openstreetmap.org; Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz Envoyé le : Lundi 27 octobre 2014 17h35 Objet : [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery Hi list,Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery under the Cc-by licence:http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them.Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available (bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) Best, Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
