[talk-ph] Rosario to Urdaneta section of TPLEx
Hi Maning, I added the newly opened lane section of TPLEx based on gps tracks that I gathered this morning. The track is for the northbound lane only. Can you help me make a parallel way for the southbound lane? Also, there is an older way attached from the viaduct at the former end of TPLEx. It looks like and old service road while construction was ongoing. I leave the decision to you to either remove it or downgrade the way. Thanks! Ed sent from mobile device ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Rosario to Urdaneta section of TPLEx
Ervin, I simply gathered the tracks while I was going through SCTEX (Mabalacat) up to the junction the meets with the national highway between Urdaneta and Binalonan. The newly opened lane started right from the part that previously exits to Carmen Rosario. Now that lane continues on northward and it starts as a long bridge and then the road continues straight to Urdaneta. Right now, I can only assume that the existing road that goes towards Bacag is the road under the bridge which was used during the construction. I can verify this when I pass again (southbound) on friday. There are no intersection to TPLEx. The roads that you see are under the bridge. hope this helps for now. ed On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Just reviewing so we can release this on garmin gps by thursday before i leave for another mapping exp in benguet-ifugao. Got a couple of questions: 1. there were a couple of roads that is supposed to intersect with tplex.. do they intersect or the tplex is a one level higher (bridge) 2. There is a south bound tplex created by caspermonte which is in parallel with the road you traced that you are unsure if it is a service road which exist just north of villasis before urdaneta. What is the difference between this part of tp lex and the other one that exits right at urdaneta? Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maning, I added the newly opened lane section of TPLEx based on gps tracks that I gathered this morning. The track is for the northbound lane only. Can you help me make a parallel way for the southbound lane? Also, there is an older way attached from the viaduct at the former end of TPLEx. It looks like and old service road while construction was ongoing. I leave the decision to you to either remove it or downgrade the way. Thanks! Ed sent from mobile device ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Rosario to Urdaneta section of TPLEx
Ervin, I saw the changes you did to the TPLEX ... thanks. trace is correct. However, the bridge looks extended all the way to Urdaneta. The bridge or elevated section is only a bit after Tomana and the original bridge preset was correct. the motorway has bridges only over the agno river and over major intersections. I will try to correct them today. ed On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Ervin, I simply gathered the tracks while I was going through SCTEX (Mabalacat) up to the junction the meets with the national highway between Urdaneta and Binalonan. The newly opened lane started right from the part that previously exits to Carmen Rosario. Now that lane continues on northward and it starts as a long bridge and then the road continues straight to Urdaneta. Right now, I can only assume that the existing road that goes towards Bacag is the road under the bridge which was used during the construction. I can verify this when I pass again (southbound) on friday. There are no intersection to TPLEx. The roads that you see are under the bridge. hope this helps for now. ed On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Just reviewing so we can release this on garmin gps by thursday before i leave for another mapping exp in benguet-ifugao. Got a couple of questions: 1. there were a couple of roads that is supposed to intersect with tplex.. do they intersect or the tplex is a one level higher (bridge) 2. There is a south bound tplex created by caspermonte which is in parallel with the road you traced that you are unsure if it is a service road which exist just north of villasis before urdaneta. What is the difference between this part of tp lex and the other one that exits right at urdaneta? Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maning, I added the newly opened lane section of TPLEx based on gps tracks that I gathered this morning. The track is for the northbound lane only. Can you help me make a parallel way for the southbound lane? Also, there is an older way attached from the viaduct at the former end of TPLEx. It looks like and old service road while construction was ongoing. I leave the decision to you to either remove it or downgrade the way. Thanks! Ed sent from mobile device ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Rosario to Urdaneta section of TPLEx
Hi Guys, Now that we have just added the new motorway section, how soon will this be available naman on the downloadable maps of OSMAnd? Was wondering if I can use the OSMAnd map for my return trip back to Manila On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Ok Ed. Thanks! Ervin Malicdem for Schadow1 Expeditions a Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Dec 25, 2014 8:39 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Ervin, I saw the changes you did to the TPLEX ... thanks. trace is correct. However, the bridge looks extended all the way to Urdaneta. The bridge or elevated section is only a bit after Tomana and the original bridge preset was correct. the motorway has bridges only over the agno river and over major intersections. I will try to correct them today. ed On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Ervin, I simply gathered the tracks while I was going through SCTEX (Mabalacat) up to the junction the meets with the national highway between Urdaneta and Binalonan. The newly opened lane started right from the part that previously exits to Carmen Rosario. Now that lane continues on northward and it starts as a long bridge and then the road continues straight to Urdaneta. Right now, I can only assume that the existing road that goes towards Bacag is the road under the bridge which was used during the construction. I can verify this when I pass again (southbound) on friday. There are no intersection to TPLEx. The roads that you see are under the bridge. hope this helps for now. ed On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Just reviewing so we can release this on garmin gps by thursday before i leave for another mapping exp in benguet-ifugao. Got a couple of questions: 1. there were a couple of roads that is supposed to intersect with tplex.. do they intersect or the tplex is a one level higher (bridge) 2. There is a south bound tplex created by caspermonte which is in parallel with the road you traced that you are unsure if it is a service road which exist just north of villasis before urdaneta. What is the difference between this part of tp lex and the other one that exits right at urdaneta? Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maning, I added the newly opened lane section of TPLEx based on gps tracks that I gathered this morning. The track is for the northbound lane only. Can you help me make a parallel way for the southbound lane? Also, there is an older way attached from the viaduct at the former end of TPLEx. It looks like and old service road while construction was ongoing. I leave the decision to you to either remove it or downgrade the way. Thanks! Ed sent from mobile device ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Yet another WebGL 3-D OSM map
Oh. It may also be that I do not have a GPU. I have a relatively low end motherboard with a Celeron. I doubt if it has a GPU. How do I confirm that it indeed does not have a GPU? Thanks guys! On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Ed, WebGL is included with recent versions of Firefox. I think an additional requirement aside from the browser is that you have a GPU present in your computer. The GPU handles all of the 3-D rendering. Unlike Jim, I don't find the rendering sluggish. Well, loading the models and textures from the web server is the sluggish part but once they're rendered, the rendering is actually quite fast. Eugene On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. My Firefox browser on Ubuntu does not support WebGL. Anything I need to do? is it just a plug in or do I need to upgrade the whole system? Thanks! On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:10 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Cool! Thanks for this we found an error in the building data over Quiapo. http://map.f4-group.com/#lat=14.6022840lon=120.9786705zoom=16camera.theta=68.999camera.phi=31.802 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?note=35651#map=19/14.60206/120.98035layers=N On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The F4 Map has now added the new data in Ayala Center into their map: http://map.f4-group.com/#lat=14.5523980lon=121.0242600zoom=17camera.theta=67.853camera.phi=36.558 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I tried experimenting with adding some 3-D building tags around Ayala Center Makati and here is the result: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=302,tilt=65,lat=14.551,lon=121.024 Some building heights are approximate so they may look off. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here is another WebGL-based 3-D OSM map: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/ It doesn't render building shapes as good as OSM2World or F4 Map (all building parts are only drawn as prisms), but you can rotate and tilt the map quite smoothly using the right mouse button. Here's New York City's Empire State Building: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=350,tilt=65,lat=40.751,lon=-73.985 Here's Paris' Notre Dame Cathedral: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=18,rot=270,tilt=63,lat=48.852,lon=2.349 Here's Kuala Lumpur's Petronas Towers: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=18,rot=259,tilt=19,lat=3.158,lon=101.711 Here's Dubai's Burj Khalifa: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=19,tilt=8,lat=25.197,lon=55.274 And here's UP Los Baños: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=355,tilt=65,lat=14.161,lon=121.242 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Yet another WebGL 3-D OSM map
Hi. My Firefox browser on Ubuntu does not support WebGL. Anything I need to do? is it just a plug in or do I need to upgrade the whole system? Thanks! On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:10 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Cool! Thanks for this we found an error in the building data over Quiapo. http://map.f4-group.com/#lat=14.6022840lon=120.9786705zoom=16camera.theta=68.999camera.phi=31.802 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?note=35651#map=19/14.60206/120.98035layers=N On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The F4 Map has now added the new data in Ayala Center into their map: http://map.f4-group.com/#lat=14.5523980lon=121.0242600zoom=17camera.theta=67.853camera.phi=36.558 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I tried experimenting with adding some 3-D building tags around Ayala Center Makati and here is the result: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=302,tilt=65,lat=14.551,lon=121.024 Some building heights are approximate so they may look off. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here is another WebGL-based 3-D OSM map: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/ It doesn't render building shapes as good as OSM2World or F4 Map (all building parts are only drawn as prisms), but you can rotate and tilt the map quite smoothly using the right mouse button. Here's New York City's Empire State Building: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=350,tilt=65,lat=40.751,lon=-73.985 Here's Paris' Notre Dame Cathedral: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=18,rot=270,tilt=63,lat=48.852,lon=2.349 Here's Kuala Lumpur's Petronas Towers: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=18,rot=259,tilt=19,lat=3.158,lon=101.711 Here's Dubai's Burj Khalifa: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=19,tilt=8,lat=25.197,lon=55.274 And here's UP Los Baños: http://city.informatik.uni-bremen.de/map/#scale=17,rot=355,tilt=65,lat=14.161,lon=121.242 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] kaybiang tunnel (new road)
Ervin, I tried OSRM to generate the route from Manila to Nasugbu and was pleasantly surprised to see that OSRMPH now uses the new road in Sta. Mercedes! It calculates the distance as 94.2 km. By comparison, the route (via google's old road) is 93.8 km. Also, by comparison, on OSRM the route to Nasugbu via Tagaytay is 109 km. Google seems to have problems routing via the Palico-Nasugbu highway ... it can not route via this road. Another error? here is the link to OSRM: http://osrm.at/4rU cheers! On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: The trace in Gmaps for ternate nasugbu road may be from a hunch by an editor. I'm having a hard time editing there. In fact I have a lot of edits denied by non-Filipino RERs. Ervin Malicdem Sent using Sony Xperia Z for Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Jul 28, 2013 12:34 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Great! Thanks Ervin! Looking at the track data that you added, I realized it was just a very short distance to the bridge and junction to the old road!! missed it by a few hundred meters na lang pala! I looked at Google Maps, looks like our Openstreetmap edits are more up-to-date. Now I wonder how Google got their road traces... On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, In relation to this, Changeset 17120677 has been created. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17120677 Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.comwrote: Great info Ed. Will try to check if I can squeeze this in this weekend. Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maning, I just came from the Kaybiang tunnel (Ternate - Nasugbu road) today and tracked the new road ... I was surprised that the roads on openstreetmap and also that on Google do not yet show what is apparently the newly built and nicely concreted road southeast of Sta Mercedes. What they both currently show is the old road along the coast of Sta Mercedes. I had taken tracks of the new road but I, unknowingly did not complete the road track up to the intersection with the old road, because I made a u-turn back to Ternate after covering only a portion of the roadroad. The current tracks of Erwin Malicdem near Kaybiang tunnel is confirmed correct compared to the tracks that I took. If you would compare the traces, it also shows that what Google Maps plotted near Kaybiang tunnel is wrong! I added the incomplete road track anyway to Openstreetmap to show the new road. I hope to be able to go back there and complete the track, or there might be other mappers who can complete it base on GPS traces? :) ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] kaybiang tunnel (new road)
Hi Maning, I just came from the Kaybiang tunnel (Ternate - Nasugbu road) today and tracked the new road ... I was surprised that the roads on openstreetmap and also that on Google do not yet show what is apparently the newly built and nicely concreted road southeast of Sta Mercedes. What they both currently show is the old road along the coast of Sta Mercedes. I had taken tracks of the new road but I, unknowingly did not complete the road track up to the intersection with the old road, because I made a u-turn back to Ternate after covering only a portion of the roadroad. The current tracks of Erwin Malicdem near Kaybiang tunnel is confirmed correct compared to the tracks that I took. If you would compare the traces, it also shows that what Google Maps plotted near Kaybiang tunnel is wrong! I added the incomplete road track anyway to Openstreetmap to show the new road. I hope to be able to go back there and complete the track, or there might be other mappers who can complete it base on GPS traces? :) ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Worldwide node density map
Wow!!! Amazing. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: I got curious with why the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador uniformly looks brighter than the Philippines and I discovered that most of the nodes there belong to the province's hundreds of thousands of lakes that were imported from the CANVEC government database. Here's an example of lakes: http://osm.org/go/cjqHuG67- On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Remember the node density maps that I produce for the Philippines? Here's one showing the whole world: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/1/10/OSM-node-density-map-2013.png The brightest areas are in Europe. The United States and Japan are also pretty bright. The Philippines is in the middle of the range. :-) Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] mapping the EDSA bus bays
Hahahaha ... truly ROTFL May need to map EDSA as one big, long parking lot too. :) ed On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: tutubi wrote, On Wednesday, 19 December, 2012 08:58 PM: anyone mapping the new edsa bus bays with labels for bus A and B? will update along my route but better if we can complete asap The whole of EDSA is a bus bay as far as I can see. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 5125 3392 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] New Bing Imagery
I was viewing satellite imagery of the Angat, Bulacan area as I was preparing for a trip to GK Enchanted Farm tomorrow. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Bing imagery in JOSM for the said area was better (cloudless, hi-res) than Google Maps satellite or even Google Earth! Amazing On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:02 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Great news! Eugene and I were just discussing a few hours when will Bing update its imagery, and now this. At this pace, Bing can cover most of the country in a few years or less. Maning Sambale (mobile) On Nov 22, 2012 9:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Totor, Great find! It seems Bing is ahead of schedule! I wasn't expecting new imagery until December (since they released updates in June and in September) Here are other areas I found that have new imagery: 1. A big patch covering northwest Mindoro (Lubang to Puerto Galera) and southwest Batangas (Calatagan towards Taal Lake) 2. A vertical strip passing through southern Isabela, eastern Quirino, and northern Aurora 3. A vertical strip passing through Cagayan. Cagayan is now almost completely covered and the whole of Tuguegarao is now covered. 4. A vertical strip in Misamis Oriental to Lanao del Norte. Laguindingan Airport is now covered and I think almost all of Cagayan de Oro's land area as well 5. A really tall vertical strip from just east of Marawi City all the way to the westernmost portion of Sarangani. 6. A vertical strip in South Cotabato centered around Mt. Matutum. I haven't done an extensive search so there may be others. Bing is releasing imagery faster than we are able to trace them! :-) On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I think I just found some new Bing Imagery: http://osm.totor.ph/Cebu_201204.osm http://osm.totor.ph/Palawan_201103.osm More armchair mapping in view... Cheers, Totor ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help
Hi Eugene, Usually, at WaypointsDotPH, we get the coordinates and photos from contributors who have been to the POIs. I was thinking, that if this will be a photo contest, then photographers of uncharted monuments might keep the location information while the contest is going on so others may not find the location and be competitive? Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined panoramio, google earth, wikimapia. Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan Valley. Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos that are linked to GE. I visually zoom in and try to zero-in on the monument then I get the coordinates from GE. I then place the coordinates on the WaypointsDotPH database since I believe I have less restrictions in using GE coordinate data than OSM has with GE. If the map area can be seen on Bing (which is OSM-friendly), then I put the POI node on OSM. Visavis, I also extract some POI coordinates from OSM especially those that are already on OSM and I include them on WaypointsDotPH to complete the where it is and how to get there feature of the website. So, basically, as far as monuments and other provincial tourist destinations are concerned, one can say that the data at WaypointsDotPH is a superset. So, if we are after a complete and ordered list, it would help if people submit coordinates to WaypointsDotPH first (especially those that have been geotagged from Google Earth). btw, an example of such a list/map is the Colonial Churches: http://waypoints.ph/categmap.php?cat=OLC ed On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Wikimedia Philippines has launched the Wiki(pedia) Loves Monuments last March 24. WLM is a photo contest with the aim of creating a body of open and freely-licensed photos of cultural and heritage sites and monuments. WLM started in 2010 in the Netherlands, became a Europe-wide competition in 2011, and in 2012 is now an international competition with 28+ countries around the world participating. The WLM Philippines webpage is here: http://www.wikimedia.ph/wmph/index.php?title=Wiki_Loves_Monuments Anyway, the WLM Philippines project managers asked my help if it is possible to get the coordinates of each site or monument in the site list (which is basically the Philippine Registry of Cultural Property (PRECUP) Built Heritage list provided by the National Commission for Culture and the Arts) which contain 689 sites total. The list is here: http://www.wikimedia.ph/wmph/index.php?title=Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Entry_Sites As you can see, most of the sites only have the town or city as their location. Not all of them have complete addresses and not one of them has any attached coordinates. The additional mapping info would be beneficial so the photographers would know where to find these sites. Unfortunately, I'm sure that OSM does not have all of the information. I estimate that only around 1/3 of these sites are in OSM. I think WaypointsDotPH might fare better but I don't think all of the sites are on WaypointsDotPH too. Do any of you guys have any idea on what's the best way to get the addresses/coordinates of all 689 sites? If needed, Wikimedia Philippines is willing to buy a license from private GIS companies but of course an open/free solution would be best. Anyway, WLM aside, I think putting all of these sites in OSM would be a nice little project for OSMPH. Do people think it's a good idea to have a list somewhere where we can track whether all 689 sites are in OSM and with complete attributes already? Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help
Nice! That's a very good tip. Thanks Jim On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 02:37 PM: Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined panoramio, google earth, wikimapia. Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan Valley. Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos that are linked to GE. Google Maps (not Earth) has a feature where you can right click on any point on the map, and select What's Here?. That puts a large green arrow on the map. If you then click on the arrow it will pop up the co-ordinates (in decimal as well as degrees, minutes, seconds). Thought that was quite handy. And also, as you're placing the arrow yourself, then you're not stealing any info from the Google database, so I imagine you can use this information unrestricted. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help
Guys, My two centavos worth ... would it not be easier if we just place a special tag on such POIs on OSM (maybe NCCA=yes or some other tag) then harvest them all via OSMosis later? That way, it eliminates transcribing errors. :) ed On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I added a few. Will add more later. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, as a test, I've started adding some coordinates obtained from OSM. Check out some of the sites in Baguio and Ilocos Norte in the list. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I have created a public spreadsheet for the WLM sites: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtokxpcNebAxdGJSMFRqX3F5Q3pZd2JpTGxJYThlOGc It seems crowdsourcing this task is the way to go and using the usual geo-research methodologies (OSM, Google, Panoramio, Wikimapia, WaypointsDotPH, etc.) Eugene On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! That's a very good tip. Thanks Jim On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 02:37 PM: Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined panoramio, google earth, wikimapia. Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan Valley. Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos that are linked to GE. Google Maps (not Earth) has a feature where you can right click on any point on the map, and select What's Here?. That puts a large green arrow on the map. If you then click on the arrow it will pop up the co-ordinates (in decimal as well as degrees, minutes, seconds). Thought that was quite handy. And also, as you're placing the arrow yourself, then you're not stealing any info from the Google database, so I imagine you can use this information unrestricted. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Updated OSMPH Imagery Coverage Map
Hi Eugene, Just wondering what these straight lines near Alaminos and Bani are for? are they also imagery outlines? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.1869lon=119.9511zoom=12layers=M :) On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Based on the response to my other e-mail, I've gone ahead and deleted all known imagery outline ways in the Philippines from the database. I have also updated the Imagery Coverage Map and added the outline for the QuickBird imagery in Pangasinan, and the EO-1 imagery in Negros.[1] I have also created an online Github repository containing the required files for this map so that other people can help update it.[2] The most interesting file in that repository is the data.osm file which is an OSM file that contains the imagery outlines.[3] So instead of adding the outlines to the main OSM database, this file should be updated. And from there I can update the web map to reflect the changes. [1] http://forge.codedgraphic.com/osm/imagery_coverage/ [2] https://github.com/OSMPH/Imagery_Coverage_Map [3] https://github.com/OSMPH/Imagery_Coverage_Map/blob/master/data.osm Enjoy! :-D ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Costa Concordia on OSM
+1 on the slogan. :) On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, On Thursday, 19 January, 2012 10:29 PM: Well, somebody thought that the ship would remain it its half-sunk state for quite some time and thus mapped it on OpenStreetMap: http://osm.org/go/xXqwIFro Reminds me of an old military saying: If it moves, salute it. If it doesn't move, paint it white. Only in this context it should be: If it doesn't move, map it! Maybe an OSM Tshirt slogan. :-) Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] cheap and reliable field data collection equipment
Hi, We have tested our Galaxy Y on one of our waypoint trips and it basically delivered all the requirements below nicely. Track accuracy and resolution (using My Tracks) was impressive. Camera shots were of acceptable quality (you wont hate it but it is not a wow either). Geotagging photos by GPS Essentials or by the native camera app was easy to use. I like the fact that you can (if you have 3G or wifi) you can send all your data almost immediately by gmail to whoever needs it. Plus ... the Galaxy Y is even cheaper than the Cherry Mobile! ed On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 18 January, 2012 03:42 PM: - data logger and digital cam - photos can be synchronized with gps tracks, has long battery life suitable for long fieldwork I believe all you have to do is make sure that the camera time and date is set accurately and you can use the captured time and date of the photo to associate it with the GPX file. - a cheap droid phone - all in one device for fieldnotes, phototagging and gps tracklogging, limited battery life. Jim mentioned a while ago Cherry mobile cosmo [0]. @Jim, based on your experience, do still suggest we look at this phone? The camera is not so good (wasn't really expecting it to be in fact), so it would only be good for shots in daylight, and when the detail wasn't imperative. Battery life might be an issue, so you'd need to pack an external power source or have a method of recharging. But yes, its still working as advertised, and does anything Android will let it do. Finding one app to do everything would be tricky, so it might be a bit fiddly switching between mapping and photo app. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: towns and inter-town roads
hahaha, true! the opinions would stem from how they are likely to interpret the - (dash). If they take it to mean as to as in, Los Banos to Calamba, then we will have to be direction sensitive here ... mid-way renaming may be a good move. Though, normally, afaik, the direction of National Highways is computed relative to its radial direction from kilometer 0 in Manila. Travelers would notice this behavior and how the kilometer post distances (total distance, not inter-town distance) increases as its location gets farther away from Manila. I.e., say town A is radially nearer to Manila than town B, the kilometer posts kinda gives the hint that the road is from town A to town B and not town B to town A. So, I guess a case like Los Banos and Calamba, it would be okay to simply call it Calamba - Los Banos. Anyway, it may still be a good idea to split hairs, ah I mean, split roads :) cheers! On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: OK, well just to split hairs a bit here ... which is what this list is all about ... :-) So you have a road between Calamba and Los Banos for example. Do you name it Calamba - Los Banos road, or Los Banos - Calamba Road? I guess people in both towns would have strong opinions about this! Or do you split it roughly half way, and call it both, depending on what town you're nearest? I guess that would make more sense, but its more hassle to implement. Another thought. Do you just do this at the town level? How about if there's a village on the way? Or a road connecting two villages? I'm still of the opinion than any information at all is better than no information, but these seem like protocols worth hashing out. Won't be able to make the mapping thing tomorrow unfortunately, but have fun, and have a great Christmas/Festive Season/insert Politically correct name here all! Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Mapping buildings in Marikina
Grabe!! such detail Maning, what are the tools here? Potlatch? JOSM? Bing? what do you recommend? I will try to work on those few blocks around my house. :) On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: This is where I'm more proud of: http://osm.org/go/4zhTiHyPY-- :) On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: If you're obsessed with detailed mapping, you might want to be inspired with what maning has done in Marikina so far: http://osm.org/go/4zhZBnGc It looks like he has covered around 30% of the city so far. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
I suggest adding the ferry route from the terminal at the Waterfront road to the Island so that it can be used by the routing services if one requests a route from Manila to the Island. I have just added the resort to waypointsdotph: http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt=rr0082 If a ferry route is added at OSM, the routing services can calculate routes up to the island. Well, I guess my question is, need we wait for GPS traces of the ferry route? or can we go ahead and plot the most probable route of the ferry? On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: I just sent them an email message (though it was to sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Eugene, Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed code? On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred kilometers off the actual location of the resort: http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MapOSMatic
Wow! Way COL! Fantastic! On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Just fantastic http://maposmatic.org/ Makes a printable map with reference squares and an index from a quick drag on the OSM map. PDF, SVG and PNG formats. Wow. Also found this piece of software which does a similar thing, but haven't tried it yet ... http://maperitive.net/ Cool tools. I actually found them randomly when I was looking for a way to zoom to 19 on OSM. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Quirino Bridge, Banaoang, Santa, Ilocos Sur
I took a look at it and I noticed two things: 1. That old way which is supposed to be a bridge is not tagged as bridge. Maybe the routine algo regards a highway without a bridge as a faster route? 2. The new bridge has a motorroad:no tag while the old highway has only got the highway:trunk tag... maybe this has an effect on routing too? ed On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:33 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote: Hi ! I again went to Vigan to stay for the night from Sta. Cruz last week, on my way I tried to route and noticed my Nuvi's directing me to use the old bridge, instead of the new one. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.55973lon=120.46364zoom=16 on my way back it's still the same. Any idea why? guess it's because the old bridge is linked to the highway, the new one is a completely new way thus it's treated as a turn. also, from Vigan, I saw DPWH billboards decalring the portion of the road under repair as Manila North Road...the road's tagged as Narvacan - Vigan...street signs say it's National Highway and yet the DPWH billboard says Manila North Road. Hoping for a Bing update for Vigan and Ilocos Sur so we can have more complete road network there. Noticed also the missing Ilocos Sur- Abra Road near Narvacan on the map. -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC re-tag Halsema Highway from primary to trunk
It seems like most, if not all, would agree to the following guidelines: -- trunk roads would be the town-to-town roads that crosses provincial boundaries. - should also make all roads directly linking town to town as primary highways what think guys? On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote: sounds like trunk hunting to me :P trunks are visible at a certain zoom level on my nuvi and mapsource... zooming in will reveal the primaries. there are others out there should be upgraded to be visible to get the idea of general route to take btw, i'm browsing my off-line map and noticed pan-philippine highway and sometimes it's maharlika somewhere near camarines norte On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Recalling this discussion ... in the same light, shouldn't we upgrade the Bagabag - Bontoc road as trunk too since it connects Nueva Vizcaya - Ifugao - Mountain Province? And it passes through the provincial capitols too. +1 for me ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC re-tag Halsema Highway from primary to trunk
My two centavos worth ... (from reading various opinions on the subject) ... If the road crosses provinces and IS the main road of choice for travelling from one province to another, I would agree tagging it as trunk. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:54 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Halsema Highway is the major route/artery in CAR. Currently, it is tagged as highway:primary. I'm pondering on re-tagging it to highway:trunk. Any comments. http://osm.org/go/42gQbAf?way=95954039 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik
Hello, I was looking at the Malolos Bulacan area and noticed that, at wide zoom levels, the railway running along Mcarthur highway disappears and only the highway is shown. please see http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419lon=120.8506zoom=14layers=M For a moment there, I thought that the railway was not yet traced in that area of the map and so I set out to plot it in JOSM. But in JOSM the railway was already there! And I found out that it is actually showing in Osmarender layer. Apparently, this is just a behaviour of Mapnik. please see http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419lon=120.8506zoom=14layers=O Is there a way to make mapnik display the railway over the highway so it does not disappear? -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RA 10067 Tubbataha Reefs National Park (TRNP) Act of 2009 has coordinates of the park's boundaries
I have friend who worked on the PRS92 project several years ago. According to him, there is very little difference between Luzon Datium and PRS92 datum. For our intents and purposes on OSM and waypointsdotph, the difference would be negligible. What I did then to convert data that is coming in as PRS92, I input those coordinates into GPSU as Luzon datum then I simply switch over to WGS84 and GPSU recalculates the new coordinates for WGS84. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: The data (corner-points) given in said Republic Act were in Lat-Long format. My converter is insisting that I specify PRS92 in Northing Easting values (as well as which Philippine-Zone). How were you able to convert prs92 (Lat Long) to WGS84? On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:13 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The main reef area is there: http://osm.org/go/4n...@q-- It is unrendered in the main mapnik layer, click the Data in the overlays to view the data. The main reef was tagged as subsea = coral_reef, as March 2009, there wasn't any agreed tag for subsea areas. Any suggestion to update the tag and consequently shown in the renderers? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31974939 A boundary of the park would be nice as well. On 12/19/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a PDF link of the scanned copy of the law from the Senate website: http://www.senate.gov.ph/republic_acts/ra%2010067.pdf It contains coordinates of the park's boundaries in PRS92 datum: Pt 1 9°04'52 119°46'10 Pt 2 9°06'05 119°48'22 Pt 3 8°58'09 120°03'12 Pt 4 8°53'29 120°03'30 Pt 5 8°41'33 119°50'41 Pt 6 8°43'09 119°45'46 As well as a 10 nm buffer zone: Pt 1 9°17'49 119°47'42 Pt 2 9°04'48 120°12'40 Pt 3 8°49'42 120°13'54 Pt 4 8°29'42 119°53'04 Pt 5 8°36'13 119°35'22 Pt 6 9°11'08 119°36'35 Can somebody convert these coordinates to WGS84 and add these to OSM? :-D ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Historical meakers (post cavite mmapping)
Perhaps the waypoint categorizations done at waypointsdotph can be useful here ... Like, we actually have a classification on historical landmarks as follows: http://waypoints.ph/gallery_gen.php?cat=NHL I can easily modify it or add a category for waypoints with historical markers. Would this help so that we do not have to reinvent the wheel? ed On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Ambeth Ocampo requested photos for the historical markers we mapped last weekend (green team found 2). http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambeth-R-Ocampo/47261762634?v=wallstory_fbid=426193237634 I am thinking we create some custom map for the NHI markers with pictures and descriptions. Then, continue adding more data as we encounter them in the future. A good micro project to help NHI and promote historical awareness through maps. Any ideas? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] mangroves, tidal lands
@maning, I looked at your mangroves at Lian ... the coastline is actually traversing the mangrove area, half on land and half on ocean, but it is still being rendered as whole land. I believe it is because you used the landuse:forest tag while I used natural:wetland tag as suggested by OSM for mangrove areas. The natural:wetland does not render as a green patch when it is on the water side of the coastline. shall I use landuse:forest instead of natural:wetland instead? On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:09 PM, jer...@bohol.ph wrote: Can't find Mangrove here as a separate category. I believe normally coastlines are high-high waterlines. See this picture on my (site http://www.bohol.ph/picture206.html) for looks off a mangrove (near Loay, Bohol); this land will submerge a high tide. Picture can be used under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA if needed. Jeroen. Quoting maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com: A proposed water_cover tagging: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_cover On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:39 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Can I have your opinion on this, guys? it is about coastal mangrove areas. It is suggested, and I agree, to map mangrove areas as inland (inside the coastline). But I encountered the mangrove areas at Alburquerque, Bohol and the mangroves (seen on wms Lansat) are currently lying on the ocean side. The current coastline is along the actual edge of what is definitely the actual land. I have personally seen the coast myself when I was in the Albuquerque area. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.6127lon=123.954zoom=14layers=B000FTF Question: Shall I move the coastline seaward so that the mangroves would apear inland? IMO, no. Some mangroves in Lian, Batangas are more on the sea side. Hence, I didn't move the the coastline. http://osm.org/go/4yfxfytF5- I've walked around these mangroves stands for two full days. This would in a way state that mangroves (or tidelands) are land and thereby also state that coastlines for tidal lands and flats are to be drawn using the exposed areas during the lowest low tide (not just the mean tide as this will cut some mangrove areas in half). Classic case for tidal flats are in Calatagan, where the low tide exposes an additional 150+m of land. I have this similar case in Talim Bay (Lian, Batangas). During low tides, the inter-tidal flats (locally known as tangkulan) are in hundreds of meters from the mean coast. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1440/541589816_bf5bf812a2_b.jpg Also, the above considers that some islands become land only on low tides. The if in doubt, map as land mantra applies only if you're unfamiliar with the area. For everything else, it's your call provided you have verified on the ground. I think we should map inter-tidal zones as lines (this needs to be defined more) -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] mangroves, tidal lands
Can I have your opinion on this, guys? it is about coastal mangrove areas. It is suggested, and I agree, to map mangrove areas as inland (inside the coastline). But I encountered the mangrove areas at Alburquerque, Bohol and the mangroves (seen on wms Lansat) are currently lying on the ocean side. The current coastline is along the actual edge of what is definitely the actual land. I have personally seen the coast myself when I was in the Albuquerque area. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.6127lon=123.954zoom=14layers=B000FTF Question: *Shall I move the coastline seaward so that the mangroves would apear inland?* This would in a way state that mangroves (or tidelands) are land and thereby also state that coastlines for tidal lands and flats are to be drawn using the exposed areas during the lowest low tide (not just the mean tide as this will cut some mangrove areas in half). Classic case for tidal flats are in Calatagan, where the low tide exposes an additional 150+m of land. Also, the above considers that some islands become land only on low tides. -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Correcting sawtooth coastlines, plotting white beaches
Hi, While I was correcting coastlines from various islands using Landsat as reference, I encountered several coastal areas that obviously had white beaches ... Some are very white! I am tempted and thinking of adding them as natural:beach as I encounter them. Question: Are beaches inland relative to the coastline? or are they seaward from the coastline (where the coastline is drawn along the actual start of land)? thanks! ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?
Hehe ... nope I am not trying to defeat the script, but am trying to stop it from misdetecting an already cleaned up coastal area. I have cleaned up the whole of Marinduque a couple of weeks ago and curiously saw the script reporting a sawtoothed section on the northern coastline. I checked it out and found just one single pair of node segment that remained in the step fashion. I nudged the one of the nodes a very small bit just so the latitudes or longitudes will not be exactly equal and hoping to see Marinduque spotlessly clean. :) On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: It's ridiculously easy to defeat the script: just nudge nodes. But the point is not to defeat the script but to check out areas in need of correction. I would assume that anybody moving coastline nodes would do so to correct or refine the data and not simply to defeat the script, right? Right? :-D ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?
Ah I get it ... So it detects node strings that form a step (a horizontal and a vertical combination). It may be good to make mappers aware that such a combination will trigger sawtooth detection by Eugene's script. For there are some coastline contours that are indeed on a step shape. Good way to avoid it is to move the nodes just a bit so the longitude/latitude pairings would not be exactly the same. I found this out on one of my Marinduque island edits. thanks! On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:31 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: @ ed, The technique is outlined here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections Couple of suggestions: 1. short link to the coastline correction wikipage 2. enable link to editors only at higher zoom level (perhaps 15-17?) 3. should be an osm-ph image of the week On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! amazing ... how do you detect sawtoothness? can you teach this at the skillshare? OSM genius ka talaga! Anyway, I take note of the sawtooth patterns between Lucena and Pagbilao Quezon ... I have corrected this already but the sawtooth appears only on higher zoom-out levels now. Does this mean it is good as done now? It still appears on yoursawtooth_coastlines map though. ed On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: HI guys, Here's an *initial* webmap showing where the jagged coastlines are as of July 3: http://forge.codedgraphic.com/osm/sawtooth_coastlines/ The larger the circle, the more jagged steps there are to clean up. Sorry, there's no link going to Potlatch or JOSM/Merkaartor. I'll add that up when I learn more of OpenLayers. But for now, this will have to do. Enjoy! Eugene On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:30 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: We missed the June target to to finish the 10 largest islands. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections#Priorities That's OK. All we need is to finish mainland Mindanao and we can set our radar to the next 20 on the list. We are also working on some webmap to visualize the sawtooth. More on that when its ready. On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I can load it in my public dropbox. On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Once we are done with the large islands, the next step is to do the smaller islands. Ian Haylock has helpfully provided the PGS coastlines[1] for the Philippines last year[2] which he edited to combine ways. PGS itself was automatically generated by a software by analyzing the Landsat imagery. Unfortunately, Ian's file was hosted on a free file server and has now expired but I think several people on the mailing list managed to download it. I tried opening the file last year in Merkaartor but my old laptop couldn't handle the data. Now that I have a 4GB-RAM laptop, loading the data into Merkaartor is very manageable. Using the PGS coastlines is much, much easier than tracing Landsat by hand. I tried this with Homonhon Island and editing is way faster than actually uploading it[3]. Hehehe. What I did was to delete the SRTM-derived coastline[4] and replace it with the PGS coastline[5]. I think uploading the PGS coastlines is better for the smaller islands. I'll see what we can do to have the PGS coastlines (55MB) uploaded somewhere. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Prototype_Global_Shoreline [2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-June/001071.html [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5129873 [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4327906 [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/65592780 Eugene On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: UPDATE. Only two islands from the top ten need some coasty coastline love. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections Anyone working on Negros and Mainland Mindanao? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk
Re: [talk-ph] motorways leading to nowhere?
That's a very good definition ... I agree it is *not* a motorway. That highway was made so that it serves as a bypass road for the towns of Orion, Pilar, Abucay, Balanga, etc to go straight to Mariveles. I passed this road several times before when I was mapping POIs at Mariveles and I really wondered why it was ever classified as a motorway. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Yes, I feel the same. One of the definitions of a motorway is that it does not cross at level with any road, railway or tramway track, or footpath (according to wikipedia) so if this road does, then it's definitely not a motorway. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I'm inclined to think that this is merely a trunk road. While it's not a requirement that the road is a tollway as opposed to a freeway to be a motorway, the fact that it's not limited access and has at-grade intersection suggests that it is not really a motorway. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: AFAIK, the Bataan Provincial Expressway is a two-lane motorway ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-lane_expressway and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_Provincial_Expressway ) The discussion tab in the above page disputes its class as a motorway. However, according to a friend who went there last month, it is indeed a dual-carriageway but no tollbooths. I added another carriageway but didn't changed the motorway tag. Probably needs an actual visit http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5048028 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- ___ talk-ph mailing listtalk...@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?
Help! as I was going around Mindoro doing coastline edits, I encountered unfamiliar nodes just about south of Mamburao. The nodes appear as big white squares in JOSM, different from the usual small yellow square nodes. What are they? Did not want to touch them as they are not the usual nodes like the others. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:05 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, 03 June, 2010 06:22 PM: FYI, I also finished Bohol and Panay. I am starting Samar Island (offline for the moment in order not to break anything). Hah. I went to finish off Bohol myself a few days ago and saw you'd already done it. Don't we have more islands to conquer. :) FYI, I have de-quantized Samar mainland. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4897757 Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 w: http://www.datalude.com/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?
hehehe thanks! just too careful not to mess things up. btw, while I was doing the edits, I can see what looks like main roads on the landsat image ... can I assume they are indeed roads showing on landsat? On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:26 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Relax. Those are coastline nodes with tags. The tags are: created_by:srtm_coastline natural:coastline note: Original way #418062 source:SRTM natural:coastline should be given tags in ways and not nodes. You can delete them. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Help! as I was going around Mindoro doing coastline edits, I encountered unfamiliar nodes just about south of Mamburao. The nodes appear as big white squares in JOSM, different from the usual small yellow square nodes. What are they? Did not want to touch them as they are not the usual nodes like the others. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:05 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, 03 June, 2010 06:22 PM: FYI, I also finished Bohol and Panay. I am starting Samar Island (offline for the moment in order not to break anything). Hah. I went to finish off Bohol myself a few days ago and saw you'd already done it. Don't we have more islands to conquer. :) FYI, I have de-quantized Samar mainland. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4897757 Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 w: http://www.datalude.com/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?
This is via JOSM/WMS Landsat, right? Just the other week, I have done some Agusan coastlines near Cabadbaran City. Ok, I will take Mindoro now ... cheers On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: The first proposed priority is to focus coastline mapping to the 10 largest islands and then move on to the next. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections#Priorities I expected lower figures, but it seems we have great coverage already for the top 10 largest islands! - Leyte is almost complete (major work by axk?) - Luzon and Cebu almost there - Bohol will probably take just a few more hours - major work needed for Mindoro, Negros, Samar, Palawan, Panay and Mainland Mindanao Choose you island now after this batch (goal is to finish by end of June 2010), we can move on to the 10 or 20. Anyone up for the challenge? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] more routing questions ...
Thanks Maning ... I got so excited that it can route across islands as long as the ferry routes are well linked ... I am now adding the RoRo routes along the SRNH so hopefully it can reach as far down south as possible. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:24 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Related to routing, I mentioned this before. I am documenting inter-town routing. Starting from Luneta Park KM 0, I am using yournavigation to test routing leading to the rough location of each town in the Philippines. When routing fails, I edit the data and revisit in a few days. The spreadsheet is here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Au2WZQ1DwK_xdHdMT0tUUzh5a0lnUkljM1hJTENiRlEhl=en Anyone is welcome to add more yournavigation links and comment if routing provided is OK. So far, I was able to test and fix several towns in Bulacan, Cavite, Batangas, Laguna, Nueva Ecija, Rizal and Ilocos. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:28 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: case in site: please try to go to: http://yournavigation.org/?flat=14.5928flon=121.0587tlat=12.5962tlon=121.5263833 The route is very long which makes it very difficult to debug. I suggest you add intermediate points in between like this: http://yournavigation.org/?flat=14.5928flon=121.0587wlat=13.878664461713wlon=121.12744405208wlat=13.797330599087wlon=121.06992163242wlat=13.76264491244wlon=121.05207153142tlat=12.5962tlon=121.5263833v=motorcarfast=1layer=mapnik Zoom in to waypoint number 2 and you will see some routing errors along the Apolinario Mabini Roundabout. This intersection is a little bit complicated and I dare not touch it as I'm not familiar in the area. Testing your route with the OSM-PH Garmin Map (updated yesterday), the route from STAR Tollway to Mindoro is OK. Several possible causes of error: 1. Yournavigation routing data is not updated. Although you can see the mapnik rendering as updated. The underlying routing graph used by Gosmore (the routing engine) is not updated. Try to contact the main developer: http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/new/Lambertus 2. Along the way I did found some unconnected highways (particularly within Batangas City proper). I fixed a couple but I may have missed others. The above is supposed to be a route from Manila (EDSA) to the main highway junction at Roxas Mindoro as called from the waypointsdotph website. As you can see, it routes nicely along the entire length of Mindoro, and it even includes the RoRo way from Batangas Pier (nice!) But it seems to be cut at Batangas Pier ... the route from Manila is not there ... could this be a simple node merge? Another puzzling example ... please try: http://yournavigation.org/?flat=14.5928flon=121.0587tlat=12.5877tlon=121.516 The above is supposed to be a route very similar to the above, but this time it should route further down into the town of Roxas. But, as you will see, it shows only a short segment of a street in Roxas. I checked the ways in JOSM and the nodes seem to be well connected (merged) ... can anyone give me a clue on why this happens? Many thanks. ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] more routing questions ...
Hello Guys, I have been working on enhancing the routes services of waypointsdotph and improving the links to the OSM routing services. Been checking and correcting way connections at OSM as well. I need your help in correcting (or teaching me how to correct) way connections so that it routes properly in both YOURNAVIGATION and on the GPS maps... case in site: please try to go to: http://yournavigation.org/?flat=14.5928flon=121.0587tlat=12.5962tlon=121.5263833 The above is supposed to be a route from Manila (EDSA) to the main highway junction at Roxas Mindoro as called from the waypointsdotph website. As you can see, it routes nicely along the entire length of Mindoro, and it even includes the RoRo way from Batangas Pier (nice!) But it seems to be cut at Batangas Pier ... the route from Manila is not there ... could this be a simple node merge? Another puzzling example ... please try: http://yournavigation.org/?flat=14.5928flon=121.0587tlat=12.5877tlon=121.516 The above is supposed to be a route very similar to the above, but this time it should route further down into the town of Roxas. But, as you will see, it shows only a short segment of a street in Roxas. I checked the ways in JOSM and the nodes seem to be well connected (merged) ... can anyone give me a clue on why this happens? Many thanks. ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Need help in analyzing the changesets from a user
just wondering ... is there a way, or, I hope there is a way where the roads and POIs can be locked by qualified or certified mappers. Where certain edits (especially for changes to already correct entities in the map) can only be done by such mappers? Or maybe where such mappers can easily retract the effects of the changesets? just wondering ... On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: This user http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/du1nij has edited many roads in Metro Manila. These two changesets are quite problematic: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4410576 (update taguig and tondo) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4421045 (aligned road) He has no public traces and he has changed the shape of some roads for the worse. I think that he has recorded some traces and didn't realize that the GPS is affected by the urban canyon effect. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] What denomination tag do we use for Catholic churches?
Pardon my ignorance ... just curious ... are there other catholics that are non-roman? On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:35 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: +1 for roman_catholic, since it is specific. Maybe we should tag shrines around the Mount Banahaw area as such (including the peak, if there is a shrine at the top) Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On *Thu, 4/8/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com* wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] What denomination tag do we use for Catholic churches? To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 12:25 PM +1 for catholic Side note, amenity=place_of_worship is not exclusive for physical churches. It can be used for other places of worship such as shrines, etc. What do we do now for Mt. Banahaw? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=rall...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for catholic (shorter more general should there be any other catholic. but AFAIK, catholic church = roman_catholic church) On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=sea...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen both denomination=catholic denomination=roman_catholic ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.orghttp://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.orghttp://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Node position for towns
Hi all. I have partially brought this subject up with Maning some time ago and would just like bring it up again on the forum ... I propose to make it standard to position town nodes as near as possible to the municipal hall of the towns. This makes for better and easier navigation when using the osmphil_garmin GPS map that Maning compiles. Most town nodes are still located at the geographical center of the boundaries of the town. If the node is moved near to the municipal hall (which is usually along the main road of the town), a traveller can see better what town is next down the road when he/she navigates with a GPS. cheers ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Ready for the OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party
Hi all Marikina mappers, So sorry, something important came up, I will not be able to make it on the 9am gathering at Bluewave mall. I might just be able to catch up with some of you while gathering POIs at around 11am but I would more surely be there at SM Marikina during the data editing and tutorials. As of this time I am preparing a list of Points Of Attractions of Marikina so maybe some of the volunteers may want to seek and map them. Also, maybe some can add other points on the list which are worth mapping. I will try to email the list late tonight. ed On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We're all set for the mapping party tomorrow: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_Party/Marikina At least 13 people confirmed. We have 5 gps units available for loan and loads of walking-papers to scribble on. :) Ed will lead the data collection for good eats, theme parks, museums, heritage places, historical places, trade hubs, and specialty crafts. Two companies (a GIS IT, and a GPS tracking and monitoring service) are interested in seeing us in action (how we collect and use the data). For people interested in developing services out of OSM data, this is a great opportunity for you to discuss with these companies. NAVCO (a local Garmin distributor) will provide a 30% discount for their Nuvi units, exclusive to mappers who will attend the event. After the data editing session in the afternoon, there will be an informal socials. No agenda, just an extra time to share more mapping stories. There will be several simultaneous kwentuhan. Of course, everyone can participate: 1. Finalization of the OSM-PH local chapter 2. Eugene will teach me how to use Merkaartor :) 3. I will teach Rally some techniques on compiling the OSM-PH Garmin Map All for now. See you in Marikina. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [waypointsdotph] OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party
Hi All, I would definitely like to join and would like to contribute by directly seeking out the locations of attraction sites or popular places in Marikina so they can be added to OSM and the vicinity maps of WaypointsDotPH. These are places like Good Eats, theme parks, museums, heritage places, historical places, trade hubs, specialty crafts, etc. As you may already know, several websites have already blogged or featured such places with some even listing the places but they have not really plotted nor provided the locations on maps. My plan is ... During the mapping party, I would like to discuss with the people who are familiar with Marikina and create a list of popular places and find out their general locations, then we will go directly to the locations, get the GPS coordinates and contribute the list of coordinates to OSM and WaypointsDotPH. See you guys! ed On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:49 AM, esambale esamb...@yahoo.com wrote: OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party Hi, We will have our Openstreetmap Philippines Marikina City Mapping Party on March 20, 2010. Invite your friends. We will teach you how to map using GPS, paper, on foot, car or bike. Let's make Marikina City the best mapped city in OSM. Please watch this page for more details: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_Party/Marikina If anyone is willing to join, help in the preps or sponsor the event just PM me. cheers, maning Visit the WaypointsDotPH website: http://www.waypoints.ph You can contribute GPS data here: www.waypoints.ph/invite.php You can follow website developments on twitter.com/waypointsdotphYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waypointsdotph/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waypointsdotph/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: waypointsdotph-dig...@yahoogroups.com waypointsdotph-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: waypointsdotph-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [waypointsdotph] Red Cross Needs your help
message sent to waypointsdotph ... forwarding it to you guys as maybe even if you can not get the coordinates via GPS, if you know of such evacuation centers, maybe you can approximate the coordinates from maps or from our own OSM data. ed -- Forwarded message -- From: lrgalvez2000 lrgal...@pldtdsl.net Date: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM Subject: [waypointsdotph] Red Cross Needs your help To: waypointsdo...@yahoogroups.com Hi guys! I'm Louie Galvez and I'm one of the Directors of the Red Cross Rizal Chapter. We are in need of the waypoints of Evacuation centers. If you have one, please text the info to 0917-555 5574. Pls do not email since I won't be able to check my email. Pls text: 1) Your name, 2) Name of Evacuation Site, 3) Coordinates (in h.d format pls), 4) If possible number of families affected 5) and if they already received any assistance in the area. A Mapsource file will just be as good. Thanks Louie Visit the WaypointsDotPH website: http://www.waypoints.ph You can contribute GPS data here: www.waypoints.ph/invite.php You can follow website developments on twitter.com/waypointsdotphYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waypointsdotph/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waypointsdotph/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:waypointsdotph-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:waypointsdotph-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: waypointsdotph-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Province place nodes
I can help a bit btw, where is the best ppoint to place the node? At the provincial capitol (if capitol location is known)? m or at the geographic center of the province? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: I can try but not until weekend. Hope somebody beats me. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, I think we need to update the set of province place nodes. (An example is Catanduanes: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/305704527 ). It seems these province nodes were imported from the GEONet Names Server (GNS) by Mike Collinson. The problem is, the data is outdated: the newer provinces are not included: 1. Kalinga and Apayao are still together as Kalinga-Apayao 2. Biliran 3. Guimaras 4. Compostela Valley 5. Zamboanga Sibugay 6. Dinagat Islands Also, I'm not sure if the import was complete since I don't see all the provinces' labels on zoom level 8 of the Mapnik layer. It's possible that they already exist and are just not rendered but it's very hard to check with the tools I have at hand. In particular, the following provinces might be missing: 1. Mountain Province 2. Quirino 3. Oriental Mindoro 4. Cotabato (formerly North Cotabato) Can somebody help with fixing these up? Eugene / seav ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937
I remember a bulk update a while back where POIs from roadguide were added to OSM. Funny thing is, as I have pointed out to Maning then, that update included several POIs which originally came from contributors of waypoints.ph where it also included some of my easter eggs and the POIs were given tags like they were all contributed by roadguide. I agree, to start with, let's remove the pois or ways that were tagged as coming from roadguide as we are aware that data from the roadguide can come from (or allowed to come from) varied sources including tracing from google earth and other maps and this is not acceptable practice in OSM. Would also like to point out that data coming straight from contributors of waypoints.ph are almost surely from personal GPS traces and are OSM-compliant. :) ed On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.comwrote: We need to do some repairing jobs now. Remove those contribution copied from roadguide.ph. Any other way to mend this error? murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 8/17/2009 9:04:20 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937 Stumbled into this one today: http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage POP3 Calendar SMS Translator Much More! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] NLEX routing errors (was Fwd: Candaba Viaduct span)
Hi Maning, I have started marking (by GPS) and adding bridges along the main roads to Baguio. The bridges are useful and look good on the Garmin map while travelling. This is why I marked the Candaba Viaduct span/length and also why I noticed the reversed one-way orientation of NLEX. Thanks for correcting the reversed way problem. btw, I have a question which may be basic ... how do you create wide rivers? :) ed On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:19 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Ed pointed out some gross errors around NLEX, kaya pala I have problems routing via MapSource! Thanks Ed. I have corrected a number of wrong way directions and unconnected motorways. If others can do another comb-through to correct some errors I may have missed, please do. I think we should always maintain integrity of motorways. Nakakahiya if kahit expressways we can't get right. :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:32 PM Subject: Candaba Viaduct span To: Maning Sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: rally rall...@gmail.com noticed that the southbound lane of NLEX is actually oneway on the opposite direction (both northbound yung lanes). I did not touch that na muna as I wanted to confirm with you if it is actually in error. If it is, ikaw na ang mag-reverse please? Also, there is a shell station currently marked beside the viaduct ... parang mali yata yun at hindi pwede magka-shell doon sa viaduct kasi bridge yun!. the shell data came from the bulk upload from jklinc. paki correct na rin. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12
Yes, too coarse ... it is accurate enough in positioning, but coarse. It is what I used for waypoints.ph vicinity maps. It has more islands and islets though than the current OSM coastlines. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Not entirely sure, but NOAA coastline are too coarse for our level of mapping. Need to check and verfiy On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:43 AM, noel mondragonnoel_pylo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Can we put the NOAA shoreline data for OSM??it might be helpful if its free... thanks, ,noel ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] suggest a new mapping party event
Maning, Wow, you are so well-oriented in how and where to look for data and images! Let's have that tutorial-over-beer, (or is that beer-over-tutorial) session na nga! I want to learn how these all fit into JOSM editing. thanks! On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:57 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Ed, I think you're out of luck at the moment. :( On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Ed Garciaeppgar...@gmail.com wrote: there is another lake in oriental negros (balinsasayao) that I would like to trace kasi The only image I got for this area looks cloudy: http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/browse/etm/114/53/2009/LE71140532009050EDC00.jpg http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/browse/etm/114/54/2009/LE71140542009050EDC00.jpg Both images were taken February 2009. I'll keep you posted when new images arrive (usually after 26 day, depending on the cloudcover) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing Palawan roads
Ako, I would go for uploading it as GPX. this way mappers, local or non-local can use it whether they are seriously mapping Palawan or just practicing to map on OSM. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Request for Comments (RFC) for importing Palawan Road Data. An engineering/surveying company gave me data for the roads of Palawan. The company allowed us to add this data to Openstreetmap. I am fairly certain it didn't come from copyrighted sources, since they surveyed it themselves. See coverage here: whole Palawan http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3401/3597237046_913bd6f8cb_o.png subset for details (red is OSM road, blue is the data): http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2293/3597238322_c0b6e5c188_o.png The problem is: 1. No attribute information (road name and type). Just a lot topologically and positionally accurate lines. 2. The data seems shifted westward by a few meters (probably a datum issue, should be easy to manually adjust before upload). We had imported this kind of data before (Laguna roads). AFAIK, laguna editors like ianlopez had to manually edit a lot to make it what it is now. Any advice? Some options I can think of are: 1. Don't add it, we might have a lot of data but not very useful (no road name, type). Might be more difficult to maintain (something like Tiger data before). 2. Convert it to GPX and allow Palawan editors (meron ba?) to use it as reference for tracing. 3. Import with the following tags: highway=road source=name of company FIXME=fix for names and highway type. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] suggest a new mapping party event
This may not be a mapping party, but more of a mapping challenge ... I have long wondered if anybody will be interested in mapping the actual shores of Caliraya and Lumot lakes by GPS on a boat or kayak. We can hire maybe 2 or 3 boats to go around the lake along the shore then take tracklogs. We can also map the resorts, parks and fishing grounds in the area. Then, just so it can be said that it is a party ... we can have a picnic in one of the resorts. ... just a suggestion. what think? cheers, ed On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:23 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Where to next? Let's make a a long list of mapping bounty here. If we can craft this list, we can start rough planning. Davao c/o murlwe and smackcode Place: - Somewhere in Metro Manila with very minimal coverage Date: - next month July -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] suggest a new mapping party event
Yes, I believe it can be done in a day even with one boat only. But 2 or 3 boats will give us more time to have a picnic time. I am also thinking of challenging some members of waypoints.ph if they are interested in kayaking the shores and get to claim that they were the first to map the lake by kayak (a marathon of sorts). btw, what is the best way to give credits to OSM contributors for contributing such noteworthy data? On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:16 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Can this be done in a day? Game ako. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: This may not be a mapping party, but more of a mapping challenge ... I have long wondered if anybody will be interested in mapping the actual shores of Caliraya and Lumot lakes by GPS on a boat or kayak. We can hire maybe 2 or 3 boats to go around the lake along the shore then take tracklogs. We can also map the resorts, parks and fishing grounds in the area. Then, just so it can be said that it is a party ... we can have a picnic in one of the resorts. ... just a suggestion. what think? cheers, ed On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:23 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Where to next? Let's make a a long list of mapping bounty here. If we can craft this list, we can start rough planning. Davao c/o murlwe and smackcode Place: - Somewhere in Metro Manila with very minimal coverage Date: - next month July -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] 1st OpenStreetMap Philippines Mapping Party Success!
Maning, hehehe ... that was actually our main food while mapping. with thanks to Rally he brought some snacks! hahaha one might also suspect that Pringles is the sponsor ... or, you are right, it could be one of those DIY gps antennas? depends on who is viewing the pic.. The other pic that I sent (the one with the link) does not have the pringles. You can also use that for your blog :) ed On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:22 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: ed, Hiramin ko picture na to for my blog report. Just one question, is the pringles container part of the mapping rig (wifi antenna) or energy booster for the mappers? :) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: The earlier email did not get through as it had an attachment larger than 40K. So here is the same photo as a link ... http://edpgarcia.multiply.com/photos/album/50/project001-bataan#60 This is just in case there were no pics of Rally's mapping rig, attached is a similar setup of the GPS-Laptop configuration which Rally and I had when we went mapping at Mariveles Bataan a few months ago. The hardware setup is basically a GPS with external antenna, Laptop running from an inverter and software is N-Route (by Garmin) On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Did anybody got a picture of the GPS units we used? @ rem, can I get a copy of Rally's mobile mapping rig (laptop, gps, encoder, etc.) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] What level of POIs do we add? (was Click the City)
Guys, just merging the thoughts on qualifying POIs ... how about, in addition to a POI having a street level entrance, we consider if the POI has prominent building signage? Some POIs may be inside a building but have very visible signage outside or in front of the building that serve as very good landmarks. :) ed On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.comwrote: In this case http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.078087lon=125.614181zoom=18layers=B000FTF Only KFC, Gerry's Grill and Pizza Hut have street level/accessible entrance. So if we agree on that rule of thumb to mapped only if they have a separate entrance. Should I remove Jollibee and McDonald's? Or retain the data as long as it is not cluttered? And in another case http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.062681lon=125.593989zoom=18layers=B000FTF All of these food chains do not have a street level entrance. murlwe -Original Message- From: Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. [...@develo.ltd.uk] Sent: 5/7/2009 12:05:36 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] What level of POIs do we add? (was Click the City) Eugene, I think what you suggest sound sensible. Could we use this as a rule of thumb: If it has a door out to street level, then it can be mapped as a POI. This way, a shop or fast foot outlet in a mall can be mapped only if they have a separate entrance. All other shops are *inside* the mall. This way it's also consistent with for example a Jollibee that is located on the ground floor of an office building, as it will have its own entrance. Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: If you have access to (data of) all locations of Jollibee, McDonalds, 7-Eleven, Ministops, Mercury Drugs and all these big companies, by all means mark them. With the exceptions of those already inside big malls (which will just clutter the map); we only need the mall-building itself as a landmark (POI) together with position of entrance gates and parking lots. Well, my idea is that if a McDo branch exists as a standalone building then there's no problem drawing the building outline and adding name=McDonald's, amenity=fastfood to it. But, as you've said, I don't think that means that we should also place a point for the McDonald's inside Robinsons Galleria. This implies that one *cannot* query the OSM database and get the coordinate locations of *all* the McDonald's branches in Metro Manila (you'll only get partial info). To get the full information, one should look elsewhere (e.g., go to www.mcdonaldsph.com, or look at ClicktheCity.com, or even start an OpenYellowPages) then geocode the obtained addresses using street data from OSM to get the actual coordinates. This actually helps create mashups applications using OSM as a tool. -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage POP3 Calendar SMS Translator Much More! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party
Hi, I will try my best to clear my schedules on the morning of May 16 so I can at least meet with you guys in person. Might not be able to map much as I will be on my way to Batangas by noon. Where is our meeting place? thanks ed On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I've posted the tagaytay mapping party announcement to several people, mailinglist and my blog. Please help in populating more information in the tagaytay mapping party page to help interested people join. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_Party/Tagaytay On 4/30/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, sige lets post an announcement (blogs, OSM diary, mailinglist, yahoogroups). On 4/30/09, Nacario Neil nbnaca...@yahoo.com wrote: good to go - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:10:05 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party Last call for confirming the date: May 16 in Tagaytay Is the date OK with everybody joining? I want the group's approval so we can distribute the announcement to all those interested in participating in the mapping party. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it should be May 16 or 17? Sorry, I stand corrected so it's May 16 in Tagaytay maning eugene rally andre ianlopez (85%) murlwe (will try) neil Anymore? Rally proposes to carpool to share fuel costs. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Tags for Resorts
Hello all, Just wanted to ask what is the standard tag that we are using for Resorts? I was studying the Boracay area and found two tags: tourism:guest_house and tourism:chalet What standard are we to adapt? I would like to put in many resorts from my collection of GPS waypoints. Thanks! ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Is Mapnik rendering only on wednesdays?
Wow this is GREAT Got even more excited to add more roads! On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Mapnik now renders in near real time: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-February/033970.html Not so for coastlines though :( On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Was surprised to see Mapnik updated on a non-wednesday. I just added provincial roads in the Manaoag - Mangaldan Pangasinan area last night and was surprised to see it on the Mapnik layers this morning. Are they updating more frequently now? cheers :) ed ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] now available google mapmaker API
Nice! yup sexy is the word ... But, are my eyes playing tricks on me? ... I can swear I saw an openstreetmap iframe displayed on the page when I opened it earlier, then, when I visited again an hour later, OSM is not there anymore? On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: Fantastic.. (click on the map and hybrid button on the far right side) Check out Subic.. http://www.mycam-asia.tv/cams/philippines/luzon/lighthouse_subic/displaymap.php Great code.. I just added it to all my pages and removed the old Google roads which were out by miles.. So So sexy... My maps look fantastic.. Thanks to the Google Programmer / Open Street Map Guys and Gals... Thanks Maning Regards Michael Cole. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:38 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: See this and browse the philippines: http://mapperz.googlepages.com/mapmaker_api_iceland.html (click on the map and hybrid button on the far right side) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] testing new OSM-Philippines Garmin routable (20090128)
Thanks for this Maning ... will of course be more than happy to help test it But, first, how do I get this .img file into mapsource then to my garmin 276C? My problem is, the SD card for the 276C is a garmin specific (non-generic) card. And so, I could not put the .img file via a card reader directly into the folders of the card. I need Mapsource to upload maps to the unit. I am used to having exe format for the maps to load itself to Mapsource ... how do I load a .img into mapsource? :) ed On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:01 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Garmin users, Please test this new routable OSM-Philippine map: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/detail/test_gmapsupp_20090128.zip Date of Data: 20090128 What's new: Searchable city and street names Please test test test and report errors. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering
hehehe ... now people might avoid passing this area because it is submerged! And I wonder if the routing programs detect this waterland situation and refuse to route through submerged roads? ok, kidding aside ... what caused this? I am assuming it is a break in the coast line? ... an open polygon allowing the water to fill the land area. :) ed On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:54 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: The coastline west of Luzon. Is now filled with water again, we had to use enormous dredging machines to removed re-claimed land. See it in osmarender: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.076lon=120.598zoom=9layers=0B00FFTF On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, D Tucny d...@tucny.com wrote: It's a bit odd really, the coastline shapefile comes from http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html afaik, but, that's showing correct coastline... I wonder what went wrong... d 2009/2/7 Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz FYI, Mapnik rendering does not all come from the same source. Most features are done weekly but coastlines (riverbanks and rivers?) come from their own Shapefiles that are updated much less frequently. Osmarender is more prone going haywire if there are small glitches in the coastline but is more uptodate. Mike At 04:13 PM 6/02/2009, Ed Garcia wrote: Oh my! What happened to the coastline of Zambales!? I noticed many new roads added to Castillejos and San Antonio but ... the coastline is gone! Is this the reclaimed chunk Eugene? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has reclaimed a huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably protest. :-P On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Napansin ko din kahapon. Reports from the main talk says there was delay in the planet dump. Hopefully matapos daw in the next few hours. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week? Look like it did not (yet). Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last week. I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of them showing on Mapnik. thanks ed ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] need help in updating an area
hmmm... I hear of this landsat every now and then but have no idea how to view it ... it is not in JOSM as I know it. How does one use it? Thanks On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:14 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks to some who helped. The general area seems to be updated tremendously partly by me and my recent gpx traces. Please help some more. In yahoo!, you can add visible trails and tracks. In landsat large rivers are fairly visible. I need to add as much info as we can. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:03 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I just came from the area and had a few gpx traces. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: I will try an hour a day.. Done some now.. First few i did i think i made some errors in the connection of the streets. (They line up just not related to each other..) The last set i just did i connected the streets correctly.. On Monday 09 February 2009 19:07:58 maning sambale wrote: Just let me know if you have been editing so I can make a thankyou note ;) On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been updating a specific area for an assistance to an NGO. I have been struggling with doing OSM mapping these days due to work schedule. So why not throw a plea to the crowd. So here goes, I need help getting as much information as we can around this area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.7125lon=121.227zoom=13layers=0B00 FTF Basically all roads (tracks, trails, etc), waterways, landuse and other info you can add in OSM. I will be tracking changes around this area for a week and hope to finish the map within this week. Thank you in advance for all your help. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up
hehehe me too! particularly where beer is involved :) Would just love to meet you guys and talk shop. I would of course prefer near Marikina but Ortigas would be fine too. I like weekdays too (no crowds) but Feb 7 is fine too. Maning, when you say KKB, do you mean Kaniya-Kaniyang bayad? or Kaniya-Kaniyang Blowout? hehehe cheers! :) ed On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Feb 7 is much better with me. Makati or Ortigas is also fine with me. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:00 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is Feb 7 or 8 OK with everyone? Post your availability and preferred venue here. KKB ang beer. :) On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Yeah, I'm on for a meet up, particularly if beer is involved! Early Feb would be prefered, as I'm going to be out of town for the last week of Jan. Jim maning sambale wrote, On Monday, January 12, 2009 11:44 AM: Hi, Can we have a meet-up this month (January)? Just an informal gathering of OSM Philippines contributors (over beer, water, iced tea or marvel taheebo) Anyone ineterested? post a date or venue here: -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 9100 7586 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Broadening coverage.
Regarding resorts listed at waypointsdotph ... no problem ... I will have those resorts that have coordinates added to OSM. Btw, what tag will we use for resorts? will we simply use Hotel? As to contact numbers. You can use the ones listed on the website. I can give Maning the list. Though I already tried to ask the resorts that do not have gps coordinates to to send in their coordinates but they usually do not have access to GPS receivers. And locating and pinpointing their establishments on the current map is not easy either especially for resorts in the provinces. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Great idea! Feel free to improve this for the Philippine setting: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Weekend_mapping_projects/Form_letters Some tips in writing press releases: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Writing_a_press_release It occured to me as I was browsing some of the resorts, that this would be a good way to get more people hooked in. All the resorts have bad instructions on how to get there, and most of them are in fairly remote areas. So, if we were to approach them and suggest that they make sure their bit of the Philippines is on the map, then they can use OSM as a resource on their websites, to make sure that customers (especially ones with GPS!) can find them. Some resorts are in Ed's webpage: www.waypoints.ph Maybe Ed can also help us with contacts. Informal/personal/social contacts sends the message across a lot easier. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] How to reply to a thread from a digest
I have been receiving my talk-ph mail as a digest. Now can anyone teach me how do I reply to a particular topic so it gets listed as a sub-thread of that topic and not as a new thread? thanks ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
