Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
2012/8/30 Wouter Hamelinck wouter.hameli...@gmail.com But the provinces are in that article also mentioned with Province in the name, which contradicts with article 5 of the constitution. And the constitution takes priority over a regular law. According to me they put it there exactly to avoid confusion since the names of provinces, arrondissements and cities are often the same. My conclusion: if there can be confusion you explicitly mention what you are talking about. If there is no confusion you don't. A search in juridat will show you plenty of laws, decrees etc where the names of arrondissements are just listed, without each time specifying Administrative Arrondissement. If you really would like to add it to the name you would have to do the same for the regions and provinces. I have no problem with that. It's a small change and can improve clarity, certainly for the provinces Antwerpen, Liège and Luxembourg. In OSM we have the admin_level tag to avoid confusion. I don't think that's enough. The meaning of admin_level is strictly Belgian, so an OSM-specialist from some other country wouldn't even understand it. And it's strictly bound to OSM. So some random user can't understand the admin_level either without first searching through the wiki. Btw, in Germany, it's also done this way. See f.e.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/62379 For completeness, it belongs now to the jurisdiction of the regions. For Flanders you can find a similar table in the Provinciedecreet of 9 december 2005. wouter @Georges, er zijn inderdaad verschillende soorten arrondissementen, maar ik denk dat boundary=administrative duidelijk maakt dat het om administratieve arrondissementen gaat. Hoewel ik er niet tegen gekant ben om de volledige naam te gebruiken. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:54:32PM +0200, Sander Deryckere wrote: I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. My problem with adding them to osm is that we have 3 kinds: - administrative; - judicial; - electoral. Which of them do you want to map, and how will you tell them apart if you want to map more than 1 of them? Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
On Friday 31 August 2012 19:02:17 Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:54:32PM +0200, Sander Deryckere wrote: I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. My problem with adding them to osm is that we have 3 kinds: - administrative; - judicial; - electoral. Which of them do you want to map, and how will you tell them apart if you want to map more than 1 of them? The discussion here is about boundaries with the boundary=administrative tag, so it's about the administrative arrondissements here. For electoral boundaries there is boundary=political as suggested by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical I'm not aware of existing tags for judicial boundaries, but we can easily make one with boundary=judicial. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
Little bit searching on the site of the Staatsblad/Moniteur Belge gave me following PDF mentioning the names of the arrondissements. http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/mopdf/2000/05/31_2.pdf A bit dated though, I suppose since the split of BHV there are some changes in that region. 2012/8/29 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: I've been going through some law texts, and I found the following in the Belgian law (grondwet): TITEL I. - HET FEDERALE BELGIE, ZIJN SAMENSTELLING EN ZIJN GRONDGEBIED. Artikel 1. België is een federale Staat, samengesteld uit de gemeenschappen en de gewesten. Art. 2. België omvat drie gemeenschappen : de Vlaamse Gemeenschap, de Franse Gemeenschap en de Duitstalige Gemeenschap. Art. 3. België omvat drie gewesten : het Vlaamse Gewest, het Waalse Gewest en het Brusselse Gewest. Art. 4. België omvat vier taalgebieden : het Nederlandse taalgebied, het Franse taalgebied, het tweetalige gebied Brussel-Hoofdstad en het Duitse taalgebied. Elke gemeente van het Rijk maakt deel uit van een van deze taalgebieden. De grenzen van de vier taalgebieden kunnen niet worden gewijzigd of gecorrigeerd dan bij een wet, aangenomen met de meerderheid van de stemmen in elke taalgroep van elke Kamer, op voorwaarde dat de meerderheid van de leden van elke taalgroep aanwezig is en voor zover het totaal van de ja-stemmen in beide taalgroepen twee derden van de uitbebrachte stemmen bereikt. Art. 5. Het Vlaamse Gewest omvat de provincies Antwerpen, Limburg, Oost-Vlaanderen, Vlaams-Brabant en West-Vlaanderen. Het Waalse Gewest omvat de provincies Henegouwen, Luik, Luxemburg, Namen en Waals-Brabant. De wet kan, indien daartoe redenen zijn, het grondgebied indelen in een groter aantal provincies. Een wet kan bepaalde gebieden, waarvan zij de grenzen vaststelt, aan de indeling in provincies onttrekken, ze onder het rechtstreekse gezag plaatsen van de federale uitvoerende macht en ze een eigen statuut toekennen. Deze wet moet worden aangenomen met de meerderheid bepaald in artikel 4, laatste lid. Art. 6. De onderverdelingen van de provincies kunnen alleen door de wet worden vastgesteld. Art. 7. De grenzen van de Staat, van de provincies en van de gemeenten kunnen niet worden gewijzigd of gecorrigeerd dan krachtens een wet. Are the arrondissements even defined by law? 2012/8/29 Jan-willem De Bleser j...@thescrapyard.org Anyway, there's only one way to solve this: find out what the official names that are written in the law are, and use those. But I have no idea where to find this (if it's in a law of course, I'm even not sure about that, but there has to be an official document somewhere that defines them). I'm with you on this point. Note that the wiki mentions almost exactly this issue, but using City rather than Arrondissement. I've added a link to the voting page. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be - End forwarded message - -- I'm probably more famous for sitting on the toilet than for anything else that I do. -- Frank Zappa ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
Voor zover mij bekend kan arrondissement verwijzen naar : administratief arrondissement met zeer beperkte adminstratieve bevoegdheden, of gerechtelijk arrondissement waarbij de bevoegdheid van de rechtbanken wordt vastgelegd. Een bijkomend probleem is dat de volgende hervorming van justitie binnenkort (?) het gebied van de arrondissementen zal gelijkstellen met de provincies, en het aantal arrondissementen dus aanzienlijk zal verminderen. Georges 2012/8/30 Wouter Hamelinck wouter.hameli...@gmail.com But the provinces are in that article also mentioned with Province in the name, which contradicts with article 5 of the constitution. And the constitution takes priority over a regular law. According to me they put it there exactly to avoid confusion since the names of provinces, arrondissements and cities are often the same. My conclusion: if there can be confusion you explicitly mention what you are talking about. If there is no confusion you don't. A search in juridat will show you plenty of laws, decrees etc where the names of arrondissements are just listed, without each time specifying Administrative Arrondissement. If you really would like to add it to the name you would have to do the same for the regions and provinces. In OSM we have the admin_level tag to avoid confusion. For completeness, it belongs now to the jurisdiction of the regions. For Flanders you can find a similar table in the Provinciedecreet of 9 december 2005. wouter 2012/8/30 Jan Keymeulen s...@keymeulen.com: Little bit searching on the site of the Staatsblad/Moniteur Belge gave me following PDF mentioning the names of the arrondissements. http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/mopdf/2000/05/31_2.pdf A bit dated though, I suppose since the split of BHV there are some changes in that region. 2012/8/29 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: I've been going through some law texts, and I found the following in the Belgian law (grondwet): TITEL I. - HET FEDERALE BELGIE, ZIJN SAMENSTELLING EN ZIJN GRONDGEBIED. Artikel 1. België is een federale Staat, samengesteld uit de gemeenschappen en de gewesten. Art. 2. België omvat drie gemeenschappen : de Vlaamse Gemeenschap, de Franse Gemeenschap en de Duitstalige Gemeenschap. Art. 3. België omvat drie gewesten : het Vlaamse Gewest, het Waalse Gewest en het Brusselse Gewest. Art. 4. België omvat vier taalgebieden : het Nederlandse taalgebied, het Franse taalgebied, het tweetalige gebied Brussel-Hoofdstad en het Duitse taalgebied. Elke gemeente van het Rijk maakt deel uit van een van deze taalgebieden. De grenzen van de vier taalgebieden kunnen niet worden gewijzigd of gecorrigeerd dan bij een wet, aangenomen met de meerderheid van de stemmen in elke taalgroep van elke Kamer, op voorwaarde dat de meerderheid van de leden van elke taalgroep aanwezig is en voor zover het totaal van de ja-stemmen in beide taalgroepen twee derden van de uitbebrachte stemmen bereikt. Art. 5. Het Vlaamse Gewest omvat de provincies Antwerpen, Limburg, Oost-Vlaanderen, Vlaams-Brabant en West-Vlaanderen. Het Waalse Gewest omvat de provincies Henegouwen, Luik, Luxemburg, Namen en Waals-Brabant. De wet kan, indien daartoe redenen zijn, het grondgebied indelen in een groter aantal provincies. Een wet kan bepaalde gebieden, waarvan zij de grenzen vaststelt, aan de indeling in provincies onttrekken, ze onder het rechtstreekse gezag plaatsen van de federale uitvoerende macht en ze een eigen statuut toekennen. Deze wet moet worden aangenomen met de meerderheid bepaald in artikel 4, laatste lid. Art. 6. De onderverdelingen van de provincies kunnen alleen door de wet worden vastgesteld. Art. 7. De grenzen van de Staat, van de provincies en van de gemeenten kunnen niet worden gewijzigd of gecorrigeerd dan krachtens een wet. Are the arrondissements even defined by law? 2012/8/29 Jan-willem De Bleser j...@thescrapyard.org Anyway, there's only one way to solve this: find out what the official names that are written in the law are, and use those. But I have no idea where to find this (if it's in a law of course, I'm even not sure about that, but there has to be an official document somewhere that defines them). I'm with you on this point. Note that the wiki mentions almost exactly this issue, but using City rather than Arrondissement. I've added a link to the voting page. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be - End forwarded message - -- I'm probably more famous for sitting on the toilet than for anything else that I do. -- Frank Zappa
[OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. Currently, the ones I added (in West-Flanders) are the only ones with a name like Arrondissement Roeselare, a big part of the others don't exist yet, but they have a name like Antwerpen. I'm all in favour of uniform names, but I want to clarify my choice for including Arrondissement in the name. 1. When people refer to Antwerpen, they might mean the province or the city, but never the arrondissement. If they mean the arrondissement, that's always mentioned. And I believe that the name tag should reflect what people use to refer to the object. 2. This is also in the choice of the names of Wikipedia articles: They name the articles Antwerpen (stad)https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28stad%29and Antwerpen (provincie) https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28provincie%29, so the appended (stad) or (provincie) is just a clarification. But the article of the arrondissement gets the name Arrondissement Antwerpenhttps://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissement_Antwerpenwhich means it's part of the name. 3. We can't expect non-OSM members to learn the mapping of the different admin_levels. So if someone searches the Kerkstraat in Brugge, and they return with a result of the Kerkstraat in Heist inside Brugge, they could wrongly think that they have the right street. While if the result would show the Kerkstraat is in Heist, arrondissement Brugge, the user might know it's wrong. 4. Some people want to index the streets per city (to have a quicker search). Because other countries use different admin_levels for their city boundaries, the only current way is searching the city node and the boundary that goes with it by the name tag. By using the city name for the arrondissements, these tools could get confused. (this last part is mainly the fault of Germany, where different admin_levels are used for different importance of cities). This also makes that Nominatim can't automatically add Arrondissement to make the search result of #3 more clear. Off coarse, setting the name to Arrondissement Antwerpen also makes the life of the mapper a bit easier (it's easier to browse through the different boundary relations), but this is of lesser importance than having the right data. I have also made a little vote on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Belgium/Boundaries#Arrondissement_names If you don't like discussions, or your opinion is fixed, you can cast your vote. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
On Wednesday 29 August 2012 13:54:32 Sander Deryckere wrote: I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. (...) 1. When people refer to Antwerpen, they might mean the province or the city, but never the arrondissement. That's mainly because we never ever talk about arrondissements at all :-) If they mean the arrondissement, that's always mentioned. And I believe that the name tag should reflect what people use to refer to the object. 2. This is also in the choice of the names of Wikipedia articles: They name the articles Antwerpen (stad)https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28stad%29and Antwerpen (provincie) https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28provincie%29, so the appended (stad) or (provincie) is just a clarification. But the article of the arrondissement gets the name Arrondissement Antwerpenhttps://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissement_Antwerpenwhich means it's part of the name. I wouldn't take every little thing on wikipedia as absolute fact. I wonder if they've thought about it themselves. And should it be Arrondissement or what we usually mean with these: Bestuurlijk arrondissement. Also, if you look at http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28gerechtelijk_arrondissement%29 or at http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissement_Antwerpen -- if they thought it was part of the name they'd have to capitalize the word, which they don't. If you look at the website of the province of Antwerp: http://www.provant.be/bestuur/grondgebied/ it says: Verdeeld in drie bestuurlijke arrondissementen, Antwerpen, Mechelen en Turnhout If it were really part of the name, one would have to repeat arrondissement each time. 3. We can't expect non-OSM members to learn the mapping of the different admin_levels. So if someone searches the Kerkstraat in Brugge, and they return with a result of the Kerkstraat in Heist inside Brugge, they could wrongly think that they have the right street. While if the result would show the Kerkstraat is in Heist, arrondissement Brugge, the user might know it's wrong. I don't consider this too much of an issue. If you search a place in OSM, you'll now get the whole list municipality - arrondissement - province - region - country. 4. Some people want to index the streets per city (to have a quicker search). Because other countries use different admin_levels for their city boundaries, the only current way is searching the city node and the boundary that goes with it by the name tag. By using the city name for the arrondissements, these tools could get confused. (this last part is mainly the fault of Germany, where different admin_levels are used for different importance of cities). This also makes that Nominatim can't automatically add Arrondissement to make the search result of #3 more clear. Off coarse, setting the name to Arrondissement Antwerpen also makes the life of the mapper a bit easier (it's easier to browse through the different boundary relations), but this is of lesser importance than having the right data. For once, I don't think we should consider the mapper too much here: once these boundaries are mapped, that's it, they shouldn't really be touched anymore. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
2012/8/29 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com On Wednesday 29 August 2012 13:54:32 Sander Deryckere wrote: I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. (...) 1. When people refer to Antwerpen, they might mean the province or the city, but never the arrondissement. That's mainly because we never ever talk about arrondissements at all :-) It's also why I want to make it clear it's an arrondissement. If people see the name Brugge without Arrondissement near it, only few people (or nobody) will think it's the arrondissement you mean. If they mean the arrondissement, that's always mentioned. And I believe that the name tag should reflect what people use to refer to the object. 2. This is also in the choice of the names of Wikipedia articles: They name the articles Antwerpen (stad)https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28stad%29and Antwerpen (provincie) https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28provincie%29 , so the appended (stad) or (provincie) is just a clarification. But the article of the arrondissement gets the name Arrondissement Antwerpenhttps://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissement_Antwerpenwhich means it's part of the name. I wouldn't take every little thing on wikipedia as absolute fact. I wonder if they've thought about it themselves. And should it be Arrondissement or what we usually mean with these: Bestuurlijk arrondissement. Also, if you look at http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28gerechtelijk_arrondissement%29or at http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissement_Antwerpen -- if they thought it was part of the name they'd have to capitalize the word, which they don't. If you look at the website of the province of Antwerp: http://www.provant.be/bestuur/grondgebied/ it says: Verdeeld in drie bestuurlijke arrondissementen, Antwerpen, Mechelen en Turnhout If it were really part of the name, one would have to repeat arrondissement each time. West-Flanders lists them completely: http://www.west-vlaanderen.be/provincie/beleid_bestuur/gemeenten/Pages/default.aspxthe same for Flemish-Brabant http://www.vlaamsbrabant.be/over-de-provincie/kennismaking/grondgebied-kaartmateriaal/gemeenten-vlaams-brabant/index.jsp. I didn't find other provinces listing their arrondissements. 3. We can't expect non-OSM members to learn the mapping of the different admin_levels. So if someone searches the Kerkstraat in Brugge, and they return with a result of the Kerkstraat in Heist inside Brugge, they could wrongly think that they have the right street. While if the result would show the Kerkstraat is in Heist, arrondissement Brugge, the user might know it's wrong. I don't consider this too much of an issue. If you search a place in OSM, you'll now get the whole list municipality - arrondissement - province - region - country. Isn't it a bit strange if municipality, arrondissement and province all have the same name? I think having something like Arrondissement in the name would make it clear at which point in the hierarchy you've arrived. 4. Some people want to index the streets per city (to have a quicker search). Because other countries use different admin_levels for their city boundaries, the only current way is searching the city node and the boundary that goes with it by the name tag. By using the city name for the arrondissements, these tools could get confused. (this last part is mainly the fault of Germany, where different admin_levels are used for different importance of cities). This also makes that Nominatim can't automatically add Arrondissement to make the search result of #3 more clear. Off coarse, setting the name to Arrondissement Antwerpen also makes the life of the mapper a bit easier (it's easier to browse through the different boundary relations), but this is of lesser importance than having the right data. For once, I don't think we should consider the mapper too much here: once these boundaries are mapped, that's it, they shouldn't really be touched anymore. That's also why I said it was of lesser importance. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
On Wednesday 29 August 2012 14:45:14 Sander Deryckere wrote: West-Flanders lists them completely: http://www.west-vlaanderen.be/provincie/beleid_bestuur/gemeenten/Pages/defa ult.aspxthe same for Flemish-Brabant http://www.vlaamsbrabant.be/over-de-provincie/kennismaking/grondgebied-kaar tmateriaal/gemeenten-vlaams-brabant/index.jsp. I didn't find other provinces listing their arrondissements. Their maps on the other hand don't: http://www.vlaamsbrabant.be/binaries/kaart-vlaamsbrabant-fusiegemeenten- arrondissementen_tcm5-2605.pdf Isn't it a bit strange if municipality, arrondissement and province all have the same name? I think having something like Arrondissement in the name would make it clear at which point in the hierarchy you've arrived. But why should it be at arrondissement and not at the municipality/city or at province level? Why not all of them? Anyway, there's only one way to solve this: find out what the official names that are written in the law are, and use those. But I have no idea where to find this (if it's in a law of course, I'm even not sure about that, but there has to be an official document somewhere that defines them). Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
Anyway, there's only one way to solve this: find out what the official names that are written in the law are, and use those. But I have no idea where to find this (if it's in a law of course, I'm even not sure about that, but there has to be an official document somewhere that defines them). I'm with you on this point. Note that the wiki mentions almost exactly this issue, but using City rather than Arrondissement. I've added a link to the voting page. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
I've been going through some law texts, and I found the following in the Belgian law (grondwet): TITEL I.http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#LNKR0002- HET FEDERALE BELGIE, ZIJN SAMENSTELLING EN ZIJN GRONDGEBIED. Artikel 1http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.2. België is een federale Staat, samengesteld uit de gemeenschappen en de gewesten. Art.http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.12http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.3. België omvat drie gemeenschappen : de Vlaamse Gemeenschap, de Franse Gemeenschap en de Duitstalige Gemeenschap. Art.http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.23http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.4. België omvat drie gewesten : het Vlaamse Gewest, het Waalse Gewest en het Brusselse Gewest. Art.http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.34http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.5. België omvat vier taalgebieden : het Nederlandse taalgebied, het Franse taalgebied, het tweetalige gebied Brussel-Hoofdstad en het Duitse taalgebied. Elke gemeente van het Rijk maakt deel uit van een van deze taalgebieden. De grenzen van de vier taalgebieden kunnen niet worden gewijzigd of gecorrigeerd dan bij een wet, aangenomen met de meerderheid van de stemmen in elke taalgroep van elke Kamer, op voorwaarde dat de meerderheid van de leden van elke taalgroep aanwezig is en voor zover het totaal van de ja-stemmen in beide taalgroepen twee derden van de uitbebrachte stemmen bereikt. Art.http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.45http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/loi_a1.pl?imgcn.x=89imgcn.y=6DETAIL=1994021730%2FNcaller=listrow_id=1numero=1rech=1cn=1994021730table_name=WETnm=1994021048la=Nchercher=tdt=GRONDWET+1994language=nlchoix1=ENchoix2=ENfromtab=wet_allnl=nsql=dt+contains++%27GRONDWET%27%2526+%271994%27and+actif+%3D+%27Y%27tri=dd+AS+RANK+trier=afkondiging#Art.6. Het Vlaamse Gewest omvat de provincies Antwerpen, Limburg, Oost-Vlaanderen, Vlaams-Brabant en West-Vlaanderen. Het Waalse Gewest omvat de provincies Henegouwen, Luik, Luxemburg, Namen en Waals-Brabant. De wet kan, indien daartoe redenen zijn, het grondgebied indelen in een groter aantal provincies. Een wet kan bepaalde gebieden, waarvan zij de grenzen vaststelt, aan de indeling in provincies
