Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[Philip Barnes]

On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 23:14 +, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we would try
> London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and cheap)
> venues that we can use? We have 100 members but would expect the
> number to actually attend would be in the region of 20-30 unless
> paired with a significant other event.
> 
> Dates: We are thinking Saturday 8 June as a starting point but can
> move to other Saturdays if venue availability is better.
> 
Is this event still on?

Just thinking that diaries are filling up and availability of cheap
rail tickets will be diminishing.

Thanks 

Phil (trigpoint)
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[Talk-GB] OSMappers meeting in Norfolk

[nkn]

Hi fellow OSM companions in Norfolk,

I’m trying to organise a meetup.

/Why?/ I aim to revitalise the social side of mapping in the rural 
spheres of Norfolk. It would be great to get to know other local mappers 
from the area and to find out what other people are interested in or 
currently working on.


/When?/ I suggest the 11th, 12th, 18th or 19th May 2019.

/Where?/ I propose to meet at a public place like a pub or café in 
Norwich as suitable location for an initial meeting.


If you are principally interested, it would be great if you could 
respond to me.


Regards
Nora


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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Andy Townsend]

On 27/04/2019 18:10, Martin Wynne wrote:
barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.


I'd use a "step_count" tag for how many steps there are ("steps" has 
also been used, often by me, but is probably less appropriate).  See:


https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/stile#combinations

I'd be more than happy to add a different sorts of stile icons to 
map.atownsend.org.uk .  It'd just need 3 new icons for each new style of 
stile at 
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/openstreetmap-carto-AJT/tree/master/symbols 
and some way of telling them apart at 
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L3070 
.  All contributions gratefully received!


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

Sorry, but, to me at least, a "chicane" involves a (double) bend.
See: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chicane
" NOUN1.  A sharp double bend created to form an obstacle on a motor-racing 
track or a road."
and these seem to involve a narrow "sqeeze", not a double bend.
 Peter 
On Saturday, 27 April 2019, 18:12:54 BST, Martin Wynne  
wrote:  
 
 barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.

barrier=chicane would perhaps be more descriptive?

Martin.

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2019-04-27 at 18:10 +0100, Martin Wynne wrote:
> barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
> symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.
> 
> barrier=chicane would perhaps be more descriptive?

barrier=chicane will already be in use, probably as a type of cycle
barrier.

Phil (trigpoint)
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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Martin Wynne]

barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.


barrier=chicane would perhaps be more descriptive?

Martin.

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

Running Overpass Turbo, it seems that they are concentrated in a small area, so 
probably "hipster" is a local term.
Looking at a well-known global Aerial Imagery source, with links to Street 
level photography, shows at least 2 of them (adjacent to roads) to be narrow 
gaps in stone walls, so a version of "squeeze". 
Regards,
 Peter 
On Saturday, 27 April 2019, 17:54:03 BST, Andy Townsend  
wrote:  
 
 
On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details
>
4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is?

Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mark Goodge]

On 27/04/2019 18:02, I wrote:



On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote:


On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details


4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) 
is?


You can only go through it if you have a beard!
Serious answer... generating a map of them via the Overpass Turbo link 
shows that all the instances of them are in an area around Keighley. 
And, looking at them on Google street view, they appear to be squeeze 
stiles. For example:


https://goo.gl/maps/v8P8SrBYHu8BWMzZA
https://goo.gl/maps/1h5zqHLpQDu4jUnb6

So I'd hazard a guess that it's a local name for them in that neck of 
the woods.


Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mark Goodge]

On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote:


On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details


4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is?


You can only go through it if you have a beard!

Mark

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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #457 2019-04-16-2019-04-22

[weeklyteam]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 457,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/11906/

Enjoy! 

Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in 
to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about 
how to write a post here: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

weeklyOSM? 
who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Andy Townsend]

On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details


4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is?

Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mark Goodge]

On 27/04/2019 17:46, Chris Hill wrote:

I've always known them as squeeze stiles.


Indeed. The term "stile" doesn't have to imply steps, although that is 
the most common form.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stile

Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2019-04-27 at 17:18 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote:
> ced close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) to 
> leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze through

That is a squeeze stile, stile=squeezer.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details

HTH Phil (trigpoint)


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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mike Baggaley]

Hi Mike,

I call them fat man's agony and consider them to be a type of stile.

See 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_fat_man%27s_agony_-_geograph.org.uk_-_945142.jpg

Mike B.

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What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) to 
leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze through but 
not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a barrier= tag for 
them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale where there are ton 
of them. They are typically not raised, so not a stile, and typically no 
gate, just a gap.

Mike




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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Roger Calvert]

I think they are generally called a 'squeeze stile'. JOSM suggests 
barrier=stile;stile=squeezer


Roger

On 27/04/2019 17:18, Michael Collinson wrote:
What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) 
to leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze 
through but not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a 
barrier= tag for them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale 
where there are ton of them. They are typically not raised, so not a 
stile, and typically no gate, just a gap.


Mike


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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Chris Hill]

I've always known them as squeeze stiles.

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On 27/04/2019 17:18, Michael Collinson wrote:
What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) 
to leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze 
through but not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a 
barrier= tag for them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale 
where there are ton of them. They are typically not raised, so not a 
stile, and typically no gate, just a gap.


Mike


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[Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Michael Collinson]

What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) to 
leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze through but 
not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a barrier= tag for 
them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale where there are ton 
of them. They are typically not raised, so not a stile, and typically no 
gate, just a gap.


Mike


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Re: [Talk-GB] Missing Captcha when adding event in OSM wiki

[nkn]

No, I haven't tried it before. After doing so, it didn't make a 
difference unfortunately. However, using Chrome instead of Firefox 
helped. The Captcha appeared.


Thank you though
Nora


Am 27/04/2019 um 16:23 schrieb Andrew Hain:
Have you tried using the link at the bottom of the page to switch 
between mobile and desktop view before you edit?


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*From:* n...@posteo.net 
*Sent:* 27 April 2019 15:19
*To:* Talk GB
*Subject:* [Talk-GB] Missing Captcha when adding event in OSM wiki

Hi

I attempt to add an event to the list on 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events 
. However, when it 
comes to saving the edit, the alert /Your edit includes new external 
links. To protect the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you 
to solve the following CAPTCHA:/ comes up, with no Captcha appearing 
for me to be solved. Is someone familiar with adding events or editing 
the OSM wiki in general and could help, please?


I hope this isn't the wrong place for my question. Otherwise please 
point me into the right direction.


Thank you
Nora

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Re: [Talk-GB] Missing Captcha when adding event in OSM wiki

[Andrew Hain]

Have you tried using the link at the bottom of the page to switch between 
mobile and desktop view before you edit?

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From: n...@posteo.net 
Sent: 27 April 2019 15:19
To: Talk GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Missing Captcha when adding event in OSM wiki


Hi

I attempt to add an event to the list on 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events. However, when it comes to 
saving the edit, the alert Your edit includes new external links. To protect 
the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you to solve the following 
CAPTCHA: comes up, with no Captcha appearing for me to be solved. Is someone 
familiar with adding events or editing the OSM wiki in general and could help, 
please?

I hope this isn't the wrong place for my question. Otherwise please point me 
into the right direction.

Thank you
Nora

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[Talk-GB] Missing Captcha when adding event in OSM wiki

[nkn]

Hi

I attempt to add an event to the list on 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events. However, when it 
comes to saving the edit, the alert /Your edit includes new external 
links. To protect the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you to 
solve the following CAPTCHA:/ comes up, with no Captcha appearing for me 
to be solved. Is someone familiar with adding events or editing the OSM 
wiki in general and could help, please?


I hope this isn't the wrong place for my question. Otherwise please 
point me into the right direction.


Thank you
Nora

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] River Rea, West of Kings Norton Park

[Andy Mabbett]

Compare the tagging on:

   https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34080550

and:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/591479120

and ways upstream (west) of the latter.

I think the former is a tributary, and the latter is the river proper.
What needs to be changed?

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