Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Hey, Hi Arun, I think Shravan's boundary seems to be different. http://shravan91.github.io/OSMIN/ Which would be more accurate? On 11 March 2015 at 15:07, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Interim update for the OSM India Tile Server http://maps.metastudio.org/osm-india/slippymap.html Arun's boundaries fix applied. Set up of daily updation from OSM data is underway... The updation scripts repos are old/dead links and timestamp servers have moved. But, there are alternatives which can and need to be set up. I'm creating documentation for it as I go along. So we will put that up in a wiki/repo somewhere. Arun, more stylesheets please? :) That India-streets one was nice. -- Regards, Johnson Chetty On 6 March 2015 at 22:44, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: In the meantime, i've forked openstreetmap-carto on my local system and have the boundary fix in place. http://i.imgur.com/Jm69u7v.png -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Hey Shravan, Good stuff! I like the boundary lines! :) On 11 March 2015 at 16:03, shravan shravan.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have been playing around with Mapbox JS https://www.mapbox.com/mapbox.js/api/v2.1.5/ and have managed to host OpenStreetMap for India with search function on Github http://shravan91.github.io/OSMIN/. I will further editing the website in coming weeks. Thank You, Shravan ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Hello, I have been playing around with Mapbox JS https://www.mapbox.com/mapbox.js/api/v2.1.5/ and have managed to host OpenStreetMap for India with search function on Github http://shravan91.github.io/OSMIN/. I will further editing the website in coming weeks. Thank You, Shravan ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On 6 March 2015 at 16:36, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! Lets fix this first. Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome if its on github. Okay.. you want the default osm.xml or a separate style layer as mapnik_style.xml for renderd? I just saw that india streets repo and it seems you have mml stylesheet? GN On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! Lets fix this first. Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome if its on github. GN On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
In the meantime, i've forked openstreetmap-carto on my local system and have the boundary fix in place. http://i.imgur.com/Jm69u7v.png -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
I am withdrawing the offer of hosting from Topomancy for OSM India community server. All the same, I do not believe that having untrained and transient volunteers managing a service like this is at all viable, and don't know why such a simple question has led to such a prolonged debate. This is why I recommended against hosting at HBCSE-TIFR, where I am on staff, and know how poorly resourced we are at the moment. S.K. On Friday 06 March 2015 08:40 PM, Johnson Chetty wrote: On 6 March 2015 at 16:36, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org mailto:nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! Lets fix this first. Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome if its on github. Okay.. you want the default osm.xml or a separate style layer as mapnik_style.xml for renderd? I just saw that india streets repo and it seems you have mml stylesheet? GN On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in http://fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org mailto:nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! Lets fix this first. Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome if its on github. GN On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.comwrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: I an exploring to get the satellite images from Bhuvan. How much benefits we are expecting to have from such imagery? It is difficult to get them if the server is not part of govt. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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Hi Shekhar, On 6 March 2015 at 21:40, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: I am withdrawing the offer of hosting from Topomancy for OSM India community server. Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. All the same, I do not believe that having untrained and transient volunteers managing a service like this is at all viable, and don't know why such a simple question has led to such a prolonged debate. Prolonged debate? We had set the tile server up in April last year but the interest did not pick up. There was no interest in it from anyone after the system stood! Nagarjun had written: gnowledge lab has recently acquired a deidated server for openstreetmap. Johnson, Sanjay, Sathyakam, Sajjad and Arun have already promised to maintain the server. (included them in cc since I am not sure if I am subscribed to the talk-in group. I was the only one who got my hands dirty with this with inputs from mostly from Arun and Sajjad. I thought that this effort would be in the same vein, that it would take a good amount of time to start with the new install and for someone to take ownership of this task to see it through. And rather than wait for so long, the server which was already set up could have easily been used by those who wanted to play with the stylesheets until things actually materialized. Was it offensive to have stated the availability of it? At least we would have had some understanding to set up a new machine more easily, in doing so. This is why I recommended against hosting at HBCSE-TIFR, where I am on staff, and know how poorly resourced we are at the moment. S.K. On Friday 06 March 2015 08:40 PM, Johnson Chetty wrote: On 6 March 2015 at 16:36, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org mailto:nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! Lets fix this first. Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome if its on github. Okay.. you want the default osm.xml or a separate style layer as mapnik_style.xml for renderd? I just saw that india streets repo and it seems you have mml stylesheet? GN On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in http://fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org mailto:nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! Lets fix this first.
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! Lets fix this first. Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome if its on github. GN On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
I do not recommend using the TIFR servers for community purposes as we have nobody on staff currently to manage them. My offer of hosting via Topomancy still stands. Alex from Mapbox also mentioned a possibility of support. Sajjad and Sanjay should advise. S.K. -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc On 05-Mar-2015 1:54 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble! GN On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On 06-Mar-2015 2:04 pm, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: I do not recommend using the TIFR servers for community purposes as we have nobody on staff currently to manage them. I can hire if you can help in finding a person. Or train a person I hire. I an exploring to get the satellite images from Bhuvan. It is difficult to get them if the server is not part of govt. GN ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty johnsonche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Is there a url for this? Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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Hello, By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time. Cheers, On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out. yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then . -Satya Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a dedicated box so work can start. Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated use by OSM India. I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now. Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders? Best, Shekhar On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a dedicated box so work can start. Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated use by OSM India. I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now. Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders? Hi Shekhar, S o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a new one ? i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we can use it as a staging server. thanks -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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As a staff member of HBCSE, I request that we not rely on this server, as we're moving towards off-site hosting for anything but lab experiments. This is not appropriate for community use. S.K. On 01/29/15 05:28, Johnson Chetty wrote: Hello, Sorry for the extended silence. FWIW: The Indian OSM Tile server was done quite a while back, around April 2014. Dr. Nagarjun, HBCSE had given us a machine in HBCSE and it was serving away all the same. It's has been just sitting the same way until Dec. end when we recommissioned it for tree mapping. http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html Local tiles for India with minutely updates were enabled as well, though not needed i believe. Have just changed it to nightly. The machine specs are: Ubuntu 12.04 8 x 1.4GHz cores 8 GB RAM Roughly around 850GB The server has been recommisioned, as there were no further updates. Arun and Satyakam both have logins on the machine already. If we want to get things up on an interim basis, we can do so with the setup and get up styling enabled for it. Atleast we have some thing ready somewhere, so the designers can try stuff out. Cheers, On 29 January 2015 at 02:52, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com mailto:a...@mapbox.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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Hi All! After we are agreed on this, can we put our minds on how to improve details and user contribution on OSM? A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see JustDial too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping itself? Blackberry has the world's best email experience. On 29-Jan-2015, at 9:43 am, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a dedicated box so work can start. Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated use by OSM India. I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now. Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders? Best, Shekhar On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote: Hi Shekhar, S o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a new one ? Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online today or soon. i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we can use it as a staging server. My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary purposes. S.K. thanks -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/| fossevents.in http://fossevents.in/ | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see JustDial too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping itself? great to hear from you , have a Mapping party wherever you are , may be start a new thread on the topic , make some noise we will all try to be there . cheers -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On 29 January 2015 at 10:06, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote: Hi Shekhar, S o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a new one ? Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online today or soon. i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we can use it as a staging server. My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary purposes. The machine I guess should be now used on an interim basis (unless Dr. Nagarjun indicates otherwise) Feel free to use it until we get a new machine (hopefully soon) We are running a tree mapping service (trees.metastudio.org) which will use the tile service. We plan to get some foliage/greenery specific stylesheets for the tile server. So the tile service will be running nonetheless. S.K. thanks -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/| fossevents.in http://fossevents.in/ | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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This then goes back to the hosting question. Our original offer was co-hosting on the server which also hosts OHM (and ChaloBEST). This is apparently undesirable to the community. We could provide a dedicated box, but that was not my intent in restarting this thread, which goes back years. My aim was to remove the obstacle if hosting and storage are issues. Also hosting at HBCSE/TIFR (where I work and where Johnson made a start on this) is not reliable, as sys-admins there are few and overburdened, and servi es are unreliable. At this point only a small number of active OSM India enthusiasts would be using this service. Can we use a VM for now? If we're asking for a dedicated box I'll have to approach Tim and Schuyler in Topomancy to see if they agree. Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? S.K. On Jan 27, 2015 8:33 PM, Sanjay Bhangar sanjaybhan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey, Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan. If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :) I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM. Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds great. Cheers, Sanjay On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself. +1 I am unable to get message which caused this confusion. We intend to have only tile server. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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2. An OSM installation for editing India data. Nowhere on the list has anyone talked about such a separate OSM installation, so we should probably put that idea to rest once for all. We are not going to fork the database. What we are looking for is just a homepage for OSM customized for Indian users with our own tiles, maybe something on the lines of http://openstreetmap.us/ and http://www.openstreetmap.de/karte.html The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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The longer term vision is to have tiles available in regional languages, but first step, our own tileserver! Unless maybe, someone has some good ideas on how we can have Hindi or Bengali maps without taking the trouble to set up our own tileserver. This is probably the time to speak up. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and main OSM? No, we are not going to do something silly like fork the osm database. We only replicate it and host customized map tiles with the visual changes we want. My suggestion is to just maintain a daily updated copy of the Asia data from http://download.geofabrik.de/asia.html Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a great idea. What is the main purpose of this? The main purpose is to have customized map tiles for India. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as hackercoop, which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters). Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad. If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement. I'm ready to take care of the mapnik xml. +1 to Arun on silent nods in agreement :-) My suggestion would be to use a different server than OHM, if possible, so that one service doesn't disrupt the other under any circumstances. Also, so that it is possible to setup a new server (.in) from scratch later, for purposes of failover) without too much manual intervention later. If such a server is not available, we can discuss raising funds for the maintenance of a server. However, even a VM on the OHM server might help us get through in the beginning? Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not). Best, S.K. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap. lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would like to learn more about it . OHM info and mailing list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first steps, looking forward to hearing from him. -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan Topomancy LLC http://shekhar.cc http://topomancy.com ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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Hey all, Sorry to be the old goat, but can't continue to have my silence being inferred as agreement :/ These are the same tired questions i have been asking since the beginning, but have not received a satisfactory answer, so shall ask them again. How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and main OSM? + I agree with Ishan that we should not host this and OHM on the same box. Another VM or so is okay, but should not be in the same environment, for sure. We need to figure out how best to do this. It maybe non-trivial to setup a VM on the running OHM box, so we may need another VM / dedicated box for this. Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a great idea. What is the main purpose of this? From what I gather, the main purpose seems to be to host an instance of OSM that shows boundaries of India that comply with Indian law, so that OSM can be used by Indian services without being in contravention of the law. I find this to be an unfortunate political reality, but a good reason. Just, unfortunately, once we fork OSM data, it is going to be possibly non-trivial to continually merge in changes from OSM. And worse, if we plan to do writes to our instance, merging those back with the main OSM seems non-trivial as well. Unless we have thought these issues through and have very clear answers and solutions to this, I think it is highly dangerous to fork the OSM data without a clear plan on how we plan to handle merges. I'm unfortunately not an OSM hacker myself, so don't have clear answers, but from speaking to people who have more experience with the OSM stack, this seems like a non-trivial problem to solve. And unless we have a plan to solve this problem, I can't really get behind such a proposal / idea. Anyways, this email was mostly just so my silence doesn't get registered as agreement :) - hopefully someone who knows more than I do can respond with how we plan to manage this. Thank you, Sanjay On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: The OHM server is very low traffic as it is a niche project. For that matter, so is OSM India. If we need a dedicated box, I'll get one via Topomancy or Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education in Mumbai. The question of hosting should not delay us. w.r.t. Paul Norman's point, agreed that what we are doing here is different in nature from OHM. My only point was that the stack installed on the server is similar, not the nature of the services. My bad wording. If anyone else in the OSM community on this list or elsewhere disagrees, speak now. Else the silent nods in agreement shall be taken as an okay to go ahead with setup of openstreetmap.in. I spoke with both Satyakaam and Arun yesterday. Satya has agreed to manage the install and config and Arun will then guide us on next steps. Johnson is too busy with other work right now and Satya is ready and reliable to manage services. Thanks to H.S. Rai for kicking off this thread! Best, Shekhar On 01/27/15 14:02, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as hackercoop, which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters). Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad. If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement. I'm ready to take care of the mapnik xml. +1 to Arun on silent nods in agreement :-) My suggestion would be to use a different server than OHM, if possible, so that one service doesn't disrupt the other under any circumstances. Also, so that it is possible to setup a new server (.in) from scratch later, for purposes of failover) without too much manual intervention later. If such a server is not available, we can discuss raising funds for the maintenance of a server. However, even a VM on the OHM server might help us get through in the beginning? Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not). Best, S.K. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Via
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Hello everyone, Just to piggyback on what Sanjay posted and from my experience having setup and managed few clones of OpenStreetMap infrastructure - are we clear on why we are doing this? I think we are mixing two different approaches here - 1. An OSM tile server specific to India data. 2. An OSM installation for editing India data. These are entirely different and solves different problems. The amount of work involved in setting up and managing is not trivial, so we want to be very clear about this. A tile server is fine and from what I recall, Johnson already setup one. We need to make sure that the replication with the OSM master database is setup correctly, with an optimum interval, to make sure we don't miss out on updates. Also, I recommend setting up this on a different server and not share resources with other apps/projects. Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Sanjay Bhangar sanjaybhan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Sorry to be the old goat, but can't continue to have my silence being inferred as agreement :/ These are the same tired questions i have been asking since the beginning, but have not received a satisfactory answer, so shall ask them again. How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and main OSM? + I agree with Ishan that we should not host this and OHM on the same box. Another VM or so is okay, but should not be in the same environment, for sure. We need to figure out how best to do this. It maybe non-trivial to setup a VM on the running OHM box, so we may need another VM / dedicated box for this. Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a great idea. What is the main purpose of this? From what I gather, the main purpose seems to be to host an instance of OSM that shows boundaries of India that comply with Indian law, so that OSM can be used by Indian services without being in contravention of the law. I find this to be an unfortunate political reality, but a good reason. Just, unfortunately, once we fork OSM data, it is going to be possibly non-trivial to continually merge in changes from OSM. And worse, if we plan to do writes to our instance, merging those back with the main OSM seems non-trivial as well. Unless we have thought these issues through and have very clear answers and solutions to this, I think it is highly dangerous to fork the OSM data without a clear plan on how we plan to handle merges. I'm unfortunately not an OSM hacker myself, so don't have clear answers, but from speaking to people who have more experience with the OSM stack, this seems like a non-trivial problem to solve. And unless we have a plan to solve this problem, I can't really get behind such a proposal / idea. Anyways, this email was mostly just so my silence doesn't get registered as agreement :) - hopefully someone who knows more than I do can respond with how we plan to manage this. Thank you, Sanjay On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: The OHM server is very low traffic as it is a niche project. For that matter, so is OSM India. If we need a dedicated box, I'll get one via Topomancy or Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education in Mumbai. The question of hosting should not delay us. w.r.t. Paul Norman's point, agreed that what we are doing here is different in nature from OHM. My only point was that the stack installed on the server is similar, not the nature of the services. My bad wording. If anyone else in the OSM community on this list or elsewhere disagrees, speak now. Else the silent nods in agreement shall be taken as an okay to go ahead with setup of openstreetmap.in. I spoke with both Satyakaam and Arun yesterday. Satya has agreed to manage the install and config and Arun will then guide us on next steps. Johnson is too busy with other work right now and Satya is ready and reliable to manage services. Thanks to H.S. Rai for kicking off this thread! Best, Shekhar On 01/27/15 14:02, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as hackercoop, which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters). Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad. If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement. I'm ready to
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Doing what they are doing on an openstreetmap-based domain would be highly misleading. Why it could be misleading. OSM's current data will be used with custom style. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and main OSM? No, we are not going to do something silly like fork the osm database. We only replicate it and host customized map tiles with the visual changes we want. My suggestion is to just maintain a daily updated copy of the Asia data from http://download.geofabrik.de/asia.html Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a great idea. What is the main purpose of this? The main purpose is to have customized map tiles for India. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself. +1 I am unable to get message which caused this confusion. We intend to have only tile server. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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Hey hey, Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan. If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :) I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM. Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds great. Cheers, Sanjay On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself. +1 I am unable to get message which caused this confusion. We intend to have only tile server. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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Create a stylesheet, that will do.. On Tue, 1/27/15, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server To: OpenStreetMap in India talk-in@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015, 2:12 AM 2. An OSM installation for editing India data. Nowhere on the list has anyone talked about such a separate OSM installation, so we should probably put that idea to rest once for all. We are not going to fork the database. What we are looking for is just a homepage for OSM customized for Indian users with our own tiles, maybe something on the lines of http://openstreetmap.us/ and http://www.openstreetmap.de/karte.html The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad. If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not). Ok i have pointed the NS to the hackercop box , also my public key is already with Sanjay he can copy it and give me the username to access the box . thanks -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap. lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would like to learn more about it . OHM info and mailing list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first steps, looking forward to hearing from him. -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as hackercoop, which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters). Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad. If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement. I'm ready to take care of the mapnik xml. Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not). Best, S.K. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap. lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would like to learn more about it . OHM info and mailing list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first steps, looking forward to hearing from him. -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan Topomancy LLC http://shekhar.cc http://topomancy.com ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as hackercoop, which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters). Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad. If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not). Best, S.K. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap. lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would like to learn more about it . OHM info and mailing list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first steps, looking forward to hearing from him. -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan Topomancy LLC http://shekhar.cc http://topomancy.com ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On 1/25/2015 10:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan wrote: Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in http://openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap. OpenHistoricalMap is providing a service completely independent of OpenStreetMap and their servers do not have the OSM data on them. They have a small portion of old OSM data, but there's no connection between the APIs. Doing what they are doing on an openstreetmap-based domain would be highly misleading. I realize that you didn't say to set up something like OHM, but others have taken the idea and jumped to that. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap. lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would like to learn more about it . -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Shall we take this forward per Arun's proposal? I guess the question of edits and forks has been addressed? Is there further consensus required on this list? Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap. S.K. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Satyakam, I've put up a Wiki page on OSM wiki with this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IN:Proposal Linked it from the domains page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Domain_names#Countries_domains Regards, Ishan On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:08 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:49 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, There has been lots of discussions with both for and against setting up a server for India , i have setup a https://www.loomio.org/d/IThldJoE/openstreetmap-in-do-we-really-want-to-make-this-happen , do add yourself and lets come to a consensus on this topic. oh forgot to mention there was a document drafted some time last year by Arun Ganesh here it is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nXz_oWkb29GBx-wGuMlD5yWUs_p2VRb8invFTVt8fu4/edit . -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | fossacademy.org ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan Topomancy LLC http://shekhar.cc http://topomancy.com ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Hi All, There has been lots of discussions with both for and against setting up a server for India , i have setup a https://www.loomio.org/d/IThldJoE/openstreetmap-in-do-we-really-want-to-make-this-happen, do add yourself and lets come to a consensus on this topic. -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | fossacademy.org ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:52 AM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow? the domain has expired so have registered again . Great!!! Thank you. Just put a nice parking page there. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:02 AM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: Please note: nrcf...@au-kbc.in is bouncing. i propose let us rebuild , let me see what i can do . On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Prof Rai Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map. I did. Go to Ludhiana, and try to reach our college, GNDEC; you will get nothing. i found the same while trying to zoom into other areas , by the by my kid liked it on a one on one comparison with G! maps!! It does not have permanent link; else I have given you URL. Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to provide means for many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly. My thought to manage the different styles was to use GitHub, with a subdirectory for each style, and in carto. I'm doing this already for another project on another server, and it works pretty well. If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate. I will let you know, after studying. But I must say, style is stunning. i saw this briefly when Arun ( planemad ) was working on this style , yes it has hours of work in it , if someone else wants to adopt it is there any documentation somewhere where using which they can contribute in the same way ? Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow? the domain has expired so have registered again . -Satya ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Email bounced from nrcf...@au-kbc.in so now send email to Prof. Krishnan Cherukulangara cnkr...@au-kbc.org -- H.S.Rai On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sir, There used to be Indian Open Street Map server hosted on your server, which was handled by Mr. Kenneth Gonsalves. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Professor Rai, everyone, What was previously being hosted there? Last November, we had set up a tile server at http://freemap.in/osm/slippymap.html. This should be open for other OSM purposes in India. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com To: nrcf...@au-kbc.in Cc: talk-in talk-in@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:18 AM Subject: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server Dear Sir, There used to be Indian Open Street Map server hosted on your server, which was handled by Mr. Kenneth Gonsalves. Now it seems to be out of life. Can it be brought back. If some help is need then there are many on Indian mailing list of OSM and even Indian residing outside India will be happy to render any help for this cause. Looking forward to hear from your side. With kind regards, -- Prof. (Dr.) H.S.Rai Dean Testing and Consultancy http://gndec.ac.in/tcc/ Guru Nanak Dev Engg. College http://gndec.ac.in/ Ludhiana (Pb) India http://gndec.ac.in/~hsrai/ http://hs.raiandrai.com = = = = = = = = = = = = Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail - Save paper ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: What was previously being hosted there? It was experimental map server for India, with changed icons. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Rendering_server https://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/ Last November, we had set up a tile server at http://freemap.in/osm/slippymap.html. This should be open for other OSM purposes in India. Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: What was previously being hosted there? It was experimental map server for India, with changed icons. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Rendering_server https://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/ Last November, we had set up a tile server at http://freemap.in/osm/slippymap.html. This should be open for other OSM purposes in India. Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote: Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only. What? There are other cities in India? Who knew?? ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote: Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only. What? There are other cities in India? Who knew?? ;-) -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Please note: nrcf...@au-kbc.in is bouncing. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Prof Rai Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map. I did. Go to Ludhiana, and try to reach our college, GNDEC; you will get nothing. It does not have permanent link; else I have given you URL. Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to provide means for many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly. My thought to manage the different styles was to use GitHub, with a subdirectory for each style, and in carto. I'm doing this already for another project on another server, and it works pretty well. If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate. I will let you know, after studying. But I must say, style is stunning. Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow? -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
