[Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread H.S.Rai
Dear Sir,

There used to be Indian Open Street Map server hosted on your server,
which was handled by Mr. Kenneth Gonsalves.

Now it seems to be out of life.

Can it be brought back.

If some help is need then there are many on Indian mailing list of OSM
and even Indian residing outside India will be happy to render any
help for this cause.

Looking forward to hear from your side.

With kind regards,

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Dean Testing and Consultancy http://gndec.ac.in/tcc/
Guru Nanak Dev Engg. College http://gndec.ac.in/
Ludhiana (Pb) India
http://gndec.ac.in/~hsrai/
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[Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-11 Thread shravan
Hello,

I have been playing around with Mapbox JS
 and have managed to host
OpenStreetMap for India with search function on Github
. I will further editing the website in
coming weeks.

Thank You,
Shravan
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread H.S.Rai
Email bounced from nrcf...@au-kbc.in so now send email to Prof.
Krishnan Cherukulangara 

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> There used to be Indian Open Street Map server hosted on your server,
> which was handled by Mr. Kenneth Gonsalves.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread Mikel Maron
Professor Rai, everyone,

What was previously being hosted there?

Last November, we had set up a tile server at 
http://freemap.in/osm/slippymap.html. This should be open for other OSM 
purposes in India. 

-Mikel
 
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>
> From: H.S.Rai 
>To: nrcf...@au-kbc.in 
>Cc: talk-in  
>Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:18 AM
>Subject: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
> 
>
>Dear Sir,
>
>There used to be Indian Open Street Map server hosted on your server,
>which was handled by Mr. Kenneth Gonsalves.
>
>Now it seems to be out of life.
>
>Can it be brought back.
>
>If some help is need then there are many on Indian mailing list of OSM
>and even Indian residing outside India will be happy to render any
>help for this cause.
>
>Looking forward to hear from your side.
>
>With kind regards,
>
>--
>Prof. (Dr.) H.S.Rai
>Dean Testing and Consultancy http://gndec.ac.in/tcc/
>Guru Nanak Dev Engg. College http://gndec.ac.in/
>Ludhiana (Pb) India
>http://gndec.ac.in/~hsrai/
>http://hs.raiandrai.com
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>Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread H.S.Rai
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>
> What was previously being hosted there?

It was experimental map server for India, with changed icons.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Rendering_server

https://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/

> Last November, we had set up a tile server at
> http://freemap.in/osm/slippymap.html. This should be open for other OSM
> purposes in India.

Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread H.S.Rai
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>
> What was previously being hosted there?

It was experimental map server for India, with changed icons.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Rendering_server

https://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/

> Last November, we had set up a tile server at
> http://freemap.in/osm/slippymap.html. This should be open for other OSM
> purposes in India.

Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread Russell Nelson
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:

> Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only.
>

What? There are other cities in India? Who knew??
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread Mikel Maron
Prof Rai

Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map. 
 
Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to provide means for 
many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly. My thought to manage 
the different styles was to use GitHub, with a subdirectory for each style, and 
in carto. I'm doing this already for another project on another server, and it 
works pretty well.

If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate.

-Mikel

* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


>
> From: H.S.Rai 
>To: Mikel Maron ; OpenStreetMap in India 
> 
>Cc: "nrcf...@au-kbc.in"  
>Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
> 
>
>On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>>
>> What was previously being hosted there?
>
>It was experimental map server for India, with changed icons.
>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Rendering_server
>
>https://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/
>
>> Last November, we had set up a tile server at
>> http://freemap.in/osm/slippymap.html. This should be open for other OSM
>> purposes in India.
>
>Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only.
>
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>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread H.S.Rai
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Russell Nelson  wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
>>
>> Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only.
>
>
> What? There are other cities in India? Who knew??

;-)

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread H.S.Rai
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Russell Nelson  wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
>>
>> Presently it seems, having focus of Mumbai only.
>
>
> What? There are other cities in India? Who knew??

;-)

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread H.S.Rai
Please note:

 nrcf...@au-kbc.in is bouncing.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
> Prof Rai
>
> Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map.

I did. Go to Ludhiana, and try to reach our college, GNDEC; you will
get nothing.

It does not have permanent link; else  I have given you URL.

> Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to provide means for
> many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly. My thought to
> manage the different styles was to use GitHub, with a subdirectory for each
> style, and in carto. I'm doing this already for another project on another
> server, and it works pretty well.
>
> If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate.

I will let you know, after studying.

But I must say, style is "stunning".

Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow?

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-02 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:02 AM, H.S.Rai  wrote:

> Please note:
>
>  nrcf...@au-kbc.in is bouncing.
>

i propose let us rebuild , let me see what i can do .


> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
> > Prof Rai
> >
> > Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map.
>
> I did. Go to Ludhiana, and try to reach our college, GNDEC; you will
> get nothing.
>

i found the same while trying to zoom into other areas , by the by my kid
liked  it on a one on one comparison with G! maps!!


>
> It does not have permanent link; else  I have given you URL.
>
> > Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to provide means
> for
> > many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly. My thought to
> > manage the different styles was to use GitHub, with a subdirectory for
> each
> > style, and in carto. I'm doing this already for another project on
> another
> > server, and it works pretty well.
> >
> > If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate.
>
> I will let you know, after studying.
>
> But I must say, style is "stunning".
>

i saw this briefly when Arun ( planemad ) was working on this style , yes
it has hours of work in it , if someone else wants to adopt it is there any
documentation somewhere where using which they can contribute in the same
way ?


> Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow?
>

the domain has expired so have registered again .

-Satya
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-03 Thread Mikel Maron
Hey

renderd wasn't running on the server, restarted it, and tiles are being 
generated again, India-wide.

We can run as many styles as we want. I like Arun's style, but it doesn't serve 
every purpose :).

Permalinks and stuff, that just takes some javascript and time (I'm a little 
short on the latter right now).

Mikel
 
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


>
> From: satyaakam goswami 
>To: OpenStreetMap in India  
>Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 2:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
> 
>
>
>On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:02 AM, H.S.Rai wrote:
>
>Please note:
>>
>> nrcf...@au-kbc.in is bouncing.
>>
>
>
>i propose let us rebuild , let me see what i can do .
> 
>On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>>> Prof Rai
>>>
>>> Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map.
>>
>>I did. Go to Ludhiana, and try to reach our college, GNDEC; you will
>>get nothing.
>>
>
>
>i found the same while trying to zoom into other areas , by the by my kid 
>liked  it on a one on one comparison with G! maps!!
> 
>
>>It does not have permanent link; else  I have given you URL.
>>
>>
>>> Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to provide means for
>>> many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly. My thought to
>>> manage the different styles was to use GitHub, with a subdirectory for each
>>> style, and in carto. I'm doing this already for another project on another
>>> server, and it works pretty well.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate.
>>
>>I will let you know, after studying.
>>
>>But I must say, style is "stunning".
>>
>
>
>i saw this briefly when Arun ( planemad ) was working on this style , yes it 
>has hours of work in it , if someone else wants to adopt it is there any 
>documentation somewhere where using which they can contribute in the same way ?
> 
>Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow?
>>
>
>
>the domain has expired so have registered again .
>
>
>-Satya
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-03 Thread Arun Ganesh
Is it a good idea to have the site running off github pages and redirect to
openstreetmap.in?
I volunteer to work on the homepage design, just point me to where I should
push the code :)


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:

> Hey
>
> renderd wasn't running on the server, restarted it, and tiles are being
> generated again, India-wide.
>
> We can run as many styles as we want. I like Arun's style, but it doesn't
> serve every purpose :).
>
> Permalinks and stuff, that just takes some javascript and time (I'm a
> little short on the latter right now).
>
> Mikel
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>   --
>  *From:* satyaakam goswami 
> *To:* OpenStreetMap in India 
> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2013 2:22 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:02 AM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
>
> Please note:
>
>  nrcf...@au-kbc.in is bouncing.
>
>
> i propose let us rebuild , let me see what i can do .
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
> > Prof Rai
> >
> > Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map.
>
> I did. Go to Ludhiana, and try to reach our college, GNDEC; you will
> get nothing.
>
>
> i found the same while trying to zoom into other areas , by the by my kid
> liked  it on a one on one comparison with G! maps!!
>
>
>
> It does not have permanent link; else  I have given you URL.
>
> > Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to provide means
> for
> > many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly. My thought to
> > manage the different styles was to use GitHub, with a subdirectory for
> each
> > style, and in carto. I'm doing this already for another project on
> another
> > server, and it works pretty well.
> >
> > If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate.
>
> I will let you know, after studying.
>
> But I must say, style is "stunning".
>
>
> i saw this briefly when Arun ( planemad ) was working on this style , yes
> it has hours of work in it , if someone else wants to adopt it is there any
> documentation somewhere where using which they can contribute in the same
> way ?
>
>
> Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow?
>
>
> the domain has expired so have registered again .
>
> -Satya
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-03 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
If we need server space for OSM India we should be able to provide hosting
via Topomancy through our HackerCoop.

We could do it on the hetzner server we have already deployed for Arun's
slippy map stylesheet which also hosts the OpenHistoricalMap (OHM) project.

Let me know if hosting is required.

On 06/03/2013 11:50 AM, Arun Ganesh wrote:
> Is it a good idea to have the site running off github pages and redirect
> to openstreetmap.in <http://openstreetmap.in>?
> I volunteer to work on the homepage design, just point me to where I
> should push the code :)
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Mikel Maron  <mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey
>
> renderd wasn't running on the server, restarted it, and tiles are
> being generated again, India-wide.
>
> We can run as many styles as we want. I like Arun's style, but it
> doesn't serve every purpose :).
>
> Permalinks and stuff, that just takes some javascript and time (I'm
> a little short on the latter right now).
>
> Mikel
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207  @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
> 
> *From:* satyaakam goswami  <mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com>>
> *To:* OpenStreetMap in India  <mailto:talk-in@openstreetmap.org>>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2013 2:22 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:02 AM, H.S.Rai  <mailto:hardeep@gmail.com>>wrote:
>
> Please note:
>
> nrcf...@au-kbc.in <mailto:nrcf...@au-kbc.in> is bouncing.
>
>
> i propose let us rebuild , let me see what i can do .
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron
> mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > Prof Rai
> >
> > Zoom out on that map, we loaded all of India for that map.
>
> I did. Go to Ludhiana, and try to reach our college, GNDEC;
> you will
> get nothing.
>
>
> i found the same while trying to zoom into other areas , by the
> by my kid liked it on a one on one comparison with G! maps!!
>
>
> It does not have permanent link; else I have given you URL.
>
> > Anyway, it's very much a work in progress. The idea is to
> provide means for
> > many renderings of India OSM, and update data regularly.
> My thought to
> > manage the different styles was to use GitHub, with a
> subdirectory for each
> > style, and in carto. I'm doing this already for another
> project on another
> > server, and it works pretty well.
> >
> > If anyone wants to push this forward, happy to collaborate.
>
> I will let you know, after studying.
>
> But I must say, style is "stunning".
>
>
> i saw this briefly when Arun ( planemad ) was working on this
> style , yes it has hours of work in it , if someone else wants
> to adopt it is there any documentation somewhere where using
> which they can contribute in the same way ?
>
> Should not we use openstreetmap.in
> <http://openstreetmap.in/> somehow?
>
>
> the domain has expired so have registered again .
>
> -Satya
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2013-06-04 Thread H.S.Rai
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:52 AM, satyaakam goswami  wrote:
>>
>> Should not we use openstreetmap.in somehow?
>
> the domain has expired so have registered again .

Great!!!

Thank you.

Just put a nice parking page there.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2014-04-14 Thread satyaakam goswami
Hi All,
  There has been lots of discussions with both for and against
setting up a server for India , i have setup a
https://www.loomio.org/d/IThldJoE/openstreetmap-in-do-we-really-want-to-make-this-happen,
do add yourself and lets come to a consensus on this topic.


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2014-04-15 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:49 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:

> Hi All,
>   There has been lots of discussions with both for and against
> setting up a server for India , i have setup a
> https://www.loomio.org/d/IThldJoE/openstreetmap-in-do-we-really-want-to-make-this-happen,
>  do add yourself and lets come to a consensus on this topic.
>

​oh forgot to mention there was a document drafted some time last year by
Arun Ganesh here it is
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nXz_oWkb29GBx-wGuMlD5yWUs_p2VRb8invFTVt8fu4/edit.


​
​
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2014-04-15 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
Thanks Satyakam,
I've put up a Wiki page on OSM wiki with this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IN:Proposal

Linked it from the domains page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Domain_names#Countries_domains

Regards,
Ishan


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:08 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:49 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>   There has been lots of discussions with both for and against
>> setting up a server for India , i have setup a
>> https://www.loomio.org/d/IThldJoE/openstreetmap-in-do-we-really-want-to-make-this-happen,
>>  do add yourself and lets come to a consensus on this topic.
>>
>
> ​oh forgot to mention there was a document drafted some time last year by
> Arun Ganesh here it is
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nXz_oWkb29GBx-wGuMlD5yWUs_p2VRb8invFTVt8fu4/edit.
>
>
> ​
> ​
> -Satya
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-25 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
Shall we take this forward per Arun's proposal? I guess the question of
edits and forks has been addressed? Is there further consensus required on
this list?

Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and
space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one year.
We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap.


S.K.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Satyakam,
> I've put up a Wiki page on OSM wiki with this:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IN:Proposal
>
> Linked it from the domains page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Domain_names#Countries_domains
>
> Regards,
> Ishan
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:08 PM, satyaakam goswami 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:49 PM, satyaakam goswami 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi All,
>>>   There has been lots of discussions with both for and against
>>> setting up a server for India , i have setup a
>>> https://www.loomio.org/d/IThldJoE/openstreetmap-in-do-we-really-want-to-make-this-happen
>>> , do add yourself and lets come to a consensus on this topic.
>>>
>>
>> ​oh forgot to mention there was a document drafted some time last year by
>> Arun Ganesh here it is
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nXz_oWkb29GBx-wGuMlD5yWUs_p2VRb8invFTVt8fu4/edit
>> .
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>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-25 Thread satyaakam goswami
>
> Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and
> space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one
> year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap.
>

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-26 Thread Arun Ganesh
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami 
wrote:

> Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and
>> space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one
>> year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap.
>>
>
> lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would like
> to learn more about it .
>

OHM info and mailing list:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map

Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first
steps, looking forward to hearing from him.


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-26 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as
"hackercoop", which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy
(which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters).

Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and
configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to
setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from Sanjay
or Sajjad.

If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Satyakaam, you can ping
and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box (on which you should also
have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not).

Best,


S.K.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami 
> wrote:
>
>> Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and
>>> space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one
>>> year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap.
>>>
>>
>> lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would
>> like to learn more about it .
>>
>
> OHM info and mailing list:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map
>
> Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first
> steps, looking forward to hearing from him.
>
>
>> ​​
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-26 Thread Arun Ganesh
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as
> "hackercoop", which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy
> (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters).
>
> Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and
> configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to
> setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from
> Sanjay or Sajjad.
>
> If we have consensus on this can we start setup?
>

Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement. I'm ready
to take care of the mapnik xml.


> Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box
> (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not).
>
> Best,
>
>
> S.K.
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and
 space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one
 year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap.

>>>
>>> lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would
>>> like to learn more about it .
>>>
>>
>> OHM info and mailing list:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map
>>
>> Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first
>> steps, looking forward to hearing from him.
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-26 Thread satyaakam goswami
>
> Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and
> configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to
> setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from
> Sanjay or Sajjad.
>
> If we have consensus on this can we start setup? Satyakaam, you can ping
> and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box (on which you should also
> have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not).
>

Ok i have pointed the NS to the hackercop box , also my public key is
already with Sanjay he can copy it and give me the username to access the
box .

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-26 Thread Paul Norman

On 1/25/2015 10:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan wrote:
Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and 
space to host openstreetmap.in  and related 
projects for at least one year. We are providing the same service to 
OpenHistoricalMap. 


OpenHistoricalMap is providing a service completely independent of 
OpenStreetMap and their servers do not have the OSM data on them. They 
have a small portion of old OSM data, but there's no connection between 
the APIs. Doing what they are doing on an openstreetmap-based domain 
would be highly misleading.


I realize that you didn't say to set up something like OHM, but others 
have taken the idea and jumped to that.
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread H.S.Rai
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>
> Doing what they are doing on an openstreetmap-based domain
> would be highly misleading.

Why it could be misleading. OSM's current data will be used with custom style.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan 
> wrote:
>
>> Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as
>> "hackercoop", which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy
>> (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters).
>>
>> Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and
>> configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to
>> setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from
>> Sanjay or Sajjad.
>>
>> If we have consensus on this can we start setup?
>>
>
> Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement. I'm
> ready to take care of the mapnik xml.
>

+1 to Arun on "silent nods in agreement" :-) My suggestion would be to use
a different server than OHM, if possible, so that one service doesn't
disrupt the other under any circumstances. Also, so that it is possible to
setup a new server (.in) from scratch later, for purposes of failover)
without too much manual intervention later.

If such a server is not available, we can discuss raising funds for the
maintenance of a server. However, even a VM on the OHM server might help us
get through in the beginning?


>
>
>> Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box
>> (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> S.K.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami >> > wrote:
>>>
 Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and
> space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one
> year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap.
>

 lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would
 like to learn more about it .

>>>
>>> OHM info and mailing list:
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first
>>> steps, looking forward to hearing from him.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
The OHM server is very low traffic as it is a niche project. For that 
matter, so is OSM India. If we need a dedicated box, I'll get one via 
Topomancy or Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education in Mumbai.


The question of hosting should not delay us.

w.r.t. Paul Norman's point, agreed that what we are doing here is 
different in nature from OHM. My only point was that the stack installed 
on the server is similar, not the nature of the services. My bad wording.


If anyone else in the OSM community on this list or elsewhere disagrees, 
speak now. Else the "silent nods in agreement" shall be taken as an okay 
to go ahead with setup of openstreetmap.in.


I spoke with both Satyakaam and Arun yesterday.

Satya has agreed to manage the install and config and Arun will then 
guide us on next steps. Johnson is too busy with other work right now 
and Satya is ready and reliable to manage services.


Thanks to H.S. Rai for kicking off this thread!

Best,


Shekhar


On 01/27/15 14:02, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote:



On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com>> wrote:



On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan
mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:

Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known
as "hackercoop", which is a community server provided courtesy
of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters).

Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed
and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be
too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will
need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad.

If we have consensus on this can we start setup?

Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement.
I'm ready to take care of the mapnik xml.


+1 to Arun on "silent nods in agreement" :-) My suggestion would be to
use a different server than OHM, if possible, so that one service
doesn't disrupt the other under any circumstances. Also, so that it is
possible to setup a new server (.in) from scratch later, for purposes of
failover) without too much manual intervention later.

If such a server is not available, we can discuss raising funds for the
maintenance of a server. However, even a VM on the OHM server might help
us get through in the beginning?

Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the
hackercoop box (on which you should also have an account, send
keys to Sanjay if not).

Best,


S.K.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh
mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com>> wrote:



On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami
mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server
with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in
 and related projects for
at least one year. We are providing the same service
to OpenHistoricalMap.


lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something
interesting would like to learn more about it .


OHM info and mailing list:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map

Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already
taken the first steps, looking forward to hearing from him.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Sanjay Bhangar
Hey all,

Sorry to be the old goat, but can't continue to have my silence being
inferred as agreement :/

These are the same tired questions i have been asking since the
beginning, but have not received a satisfactory answer, so shall ask
them again.

How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and main OSM?

+ I agree with Ishan that we should not host this and OHM on the same
box. Another VM or so is okay, but should not be in the same
environment, for sure. We need to figure out how best to do this. It
maybe non-trivial to setup a VM on the running OHM box, so we may need
another VM / dedicated box for this.

Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a
great idea. What is the main purpose of this? From what I gather, the
main purpose seems to be to host an instance of OSM that shows
boundaries of India that comply with Indian law, so that OSM can be
used by Indian services without being in contravention of the law. I
find this to be an unfortunate political reality, but a good reason.
Just, unfortunately, once we "fork" OSM data, it is going to be
possibly non-trivial to continually merge in changes from OSM. And
worse, if we plan to do writes to our instance, merging those back
with the main OSM seems non-trivial as well. Unless we have thought
these issues through and have very clear answers and solutions to
this, I think it is highly dangerous to "fork" the OSM data without a
clear plan on how we plan to handle merges.

I'm unfortunately not an OSM hacker myself, so don't have clear
answers, but from speaking to people who have more experience with the
OSM stack, this seems like a non-trivial problem to solve. And unless
we have a plan to solve this problem, I can't really get behind such a
proposal / idea.

Anyways, this email was mostly just so my silence doesn't get
registered as agreement :) - hopefully someone who knows more than I
do can respond with how we plan to manage this.

Thank you,
Sanjay

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Shekhar Krishnan  wrote:
> The OHM server is very low traffic as it is a niche project. For that
> matter, so is OSM India. If we need a dedicated box, I'll get one via
> Topomancy or Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education in Mumbai.
>
> The question of hosting should not delay us.
>
> w.r.t. Paul Norman's point, agreed that what we are doing here is different
> in nature from OHM. My only point was that the stack installed on the server
> is similar, not the nature of the services. My bad wording.
>
> If anyone else in the OSM community on this list or elsewhere disagrees,
> speak now. Else the "silent nods in agreement" shall be taken as an okay to
> go ahead with setup of openstreetmap.in.
>
> I spoke with both Satyakaam and Arun yesterday.
>
> Satya has agreed to manage the install and config and Arun will then guide
> us on next steps. Johnson is too busy with other work right now and Satya is
> ready and reliable to manage services.
>
> Thanks to H.S. Rai for kicking off this thread!
>
> Best,
>
>
> Shekhar
>
>
> On 01/27/15 14:02, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan
>> mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known
>> as "hackercoop", which is a community server provided courtesy
>> of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters).
>>
>> Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed
>> and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be
>> too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will
>> need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad.
>>
>> If we have consensus on this can we start setup?
>>
>> Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement.
>> I'm ready to take care of the mapnik xml.
>>
>>
>> +1 to Arun on "silent nods in agreement" :-) My suggestion would be to
>> use a different server than OHM, if possible, so that one service
>> doesn't disrupt the other under any circumstances. Also, so that it is
>> possible to setup a new server (.in) from scratch later, for purposes of
>> failover) without too much manual intervention later.
>>
>> If such a server is not available, we can discuss raising funds for the
>> maintenance of a server. However, even a VM on the OHM server might help
>> us get through in the beginning?
>>
>> Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the
>> hackercoop box (on which you should also have an account, send
>> keys to Sanjay if not).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> S.K.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Ganesh
>> mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami
>> mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com>>

Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Arun Ganesh
> How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and
> main OSM?
>

No, we are not going to do something silly like fork the osm database. We
only replicate it and host customized map tiles with the visual changes we
want.

My suggestion is to just maintain a daily updated copy of the Asia data
from http://download.geofabrik.de/asia.html


Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a
> great idea. What is the main purpose of this?


The main purpose is to have customized map tiles for India.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Sajjad Anwar
Hello everyone,

Just to piggyback on what Sanjay posted and from my experience having setup
and managed few clones of OpenStreetMap infrastructure - are we clear on
why we are doing this?

I think we are mixing two different approaches here -
1. An OSM tile server specific to India data.
2. An OSM installation for editing India data.

These are entirely different and solves different problems. The amount of
work involved in setting up and managing is not trivial, so we want to be
very clear about this.

A tile server is fine and from what I recall, Johnson already setup one. We
need to make sure that the replication with the OSM master database is
setup correctly, with an optimum interval, to make sure we don't miss out
on updates.

Also, I recommend setting up this on a different server and not share
resources with other apps/projects.

Cheers,
Sajjad.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Sanjay Bhangar 
wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Sorry to be the old goat, but can't continue to have my silence being
> inferred as agreement :/
>
> These are the same tired questions i have been asking since the
> beginning, but have not received a satisfactory answer, so shall ask
> them again.
>
> How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and
> main OSM?
>
> + I agree with Ishan that we should not host this and OHM on the same
> box. Another VM or so is okay, but should not be in the same
> environment, for sure. We need to figure out how best to do this. It
> maybe non-trivial to setup a VM on the running OHM box, so we may need
> another VM / dedicated box for this.
>
> Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a
> great idea. What is the main purpose of this? From what I gather, the
> main purpose seems to be to host an instance of OSM that shows
> boundaries of India that comply with Indian law, so that OSM can be
> used by Indian services without being in contravention of the law. I
> find this to be an unfortunate political reality, but a good reason.
> Just, unfortunately, once we "fork" OSM data, it is going to be
> possibly non-trivial to continually merge in changes from OSM. And
> worse, if we plan to do writes to our instance, merging those back
> with the main OSM seems non-trivial as well. Unless we have thought
> these issues through and have very clear answers and solutions to
> this, I think it is highly dangerous to "fork" the OSM data without a
> clear plan on how we plan to handle merges.
>
> I'm unfortunately not an OSM hacker myself, so don't have clear
> answers, but from speaking to people who have more experience with the
> OSM stack, this seems like a non-trivial problem to solve. And unless
> we have a plan to solve this problem, I can't really get behind such a
> proposal / idea.
>
> Anyways, this email was mostly just so my silence doesn't get
> registered as agreement :) - hopefully someone who knows more than I
> do can respond with how we plan to manage this.
>
> Thank you,
> Sanjay
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Shekhar Krishnan 
> wrote:
> > The OHM server is very low traffic as it is a niche project. For that
> > matter, so is OSM India. If we need a dedicated box, I'll get one via
> > Topomancy or Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education in Mumbai.
> >
> > The question of hosting should not delay us.
> >
> > w.r.t. Paul Norman's point, agreed that what we are doing here is
> different
> > in nature from OHM. My only point was that the stack installed on the
> server
> > is similar, not the nature of the services. My bad wording.
> >
> > If anyone else in the OSM community on this list or elsewhere disagrees,
> > speak now. Else the "silent nods in agreement" shall be taken as an okay
> to
> > go ahead with setup of openstreetmap.in.
> >
> > I spoke with both Satyakaam and Arun yesterday.
> >
> > Satya has agreed to manage the install and config and Arun will then
> guide
> > us on next steps. Johnson is too busy with other work right now and
> Satya is
> > ready and reliable to manage services.
> >
> > Thanks to H.S. Rai for kicking off this thread!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > Shekhar
> >
> >
> > On 01/27/15 14:02, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan
> >> mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known
> >> as "hackercoop", which is a community server provided courtesy
> >> of Topomancy (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters).
> >>
> >> Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed
> >> and configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be
> >> too hard to setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will
> >> need guidance from Sanjay or Sajjad.
> >>
> >> If we have consensus on this can we start setup?
> 

Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Arun Ganesh
The longer term vision is to have tiles available in regional languages,
but first step, our own tileserver!

Unless maybe, someone has some good ideas on how we can have Hindi or
Bengali maps without taking the trouble to set up our own tileserver. This
is probably the time to speak up.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Arun Ganesh 
wrote:

>
> How are we going to keep data in sync between this instance / fork and
>> main OSM?
>>
>
> No, we are not going to do something silly like fork the osm database. We
> only replicate it and host customized map tiles with the visual changes we
> want.
>
> My suggestion is to just maintain a daily updated copy of the Asia data
> from http://download.geofabrik.de/asia.html
>
>
> Sorry to be the old goat here, but I still don't believe this is a
>> great idea. What is the main purpose of this?
>
>
> The main purpose is to have customized map tiles for India.
>
> --
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>  
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Arun Ganesh
>
>
> 2. An OSM installation for editing India data.
>
> Nowhere on the list has anyone talked about such a separate OSM
installation, so we should probably put that idea to rest once for all. We
are not going to fork the database.

What we are looking for is just a homepage for OSM customized for Indian
users with our own tiles,  maybe something on the lines of
http://openstreetmap.us/ and http://www.openstreetmap.de/karte.html

The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is
changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Ravi Kumar
Create a stylesheet, that will do.. 


On Tue, 1/27/15, Arun Ganesh  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
 To: "OpenStreetMap in India" 
 Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015, 2:12 AM
 
 
 2. An
 OSM installation for editing India data.
 
 Nowhere
 on the list has anyone talked about such a separate OSM
 installation, so we should probably put that idea to rest
 once for all. We are not going to fork the
 database. 
 What we
 are looking for is just a homepage for OSM customized for
 Indian users with our own tiles,  maybe something on the
 lines of http://openstreetmap.us/
 and http://www.openstreetmap.de/karte.html
 The boundaries remain a big reason
 to have our own tiles. All this takes is changes to the
 stylesheet, not the data itself.
 
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread H.S.Rai
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
> The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is
> changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.

+1

I am unable to get message which caused this confusion.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-27 Thread Sanjay Bhangar
Hey hey,

Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half
remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan.
If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate
styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :)

I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have
rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM.

Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the
boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds
great.

Cheers,
Sanjay

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>>
>> The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is
>> changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.
>
> +1
>
> I am unable to get message which caused this confusion.
>
> We intend to have only tile server.
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
This then goes back to the hosting question. Our original offer was
co-hosting on the server which also hosts OHM (and ChaloBEST). This is
apparently undesirable to the community.

We could provide a dedicated box, but that was not my intent in restarting
this thread, which goes back years. My aim was to remove the obstacle if
hosting and storage are issues.

Also hosting at HBCSE/TIFR (where I work and where Johnson made a start on
this) is not reliable, as sys-admins there are few and overburdened, and
servi es are unreliable.

At this point only a small number of active OSM India enthusiasts would be
using this service. Can we use a VM for now? If we're asking for a
dedicated box I'll have to approach Tim and Schuyler in Topomancy to see if
they agree.

Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
Mikel, any thoughts?

S.K.
On Jan 27, 2015 8:33 PM, "Sanjay Bhangar"  wrote:

> Hey hey,
>
> Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half
> remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan.
> If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate
> styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :)
>
> I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have
> rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM.
>
> Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the
> boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds
> great.
>
> Cheers,
> Sanjay
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this
> takes is
> >> changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I am unable to get message which caused this confusion.
> >
> > We intend to have only tile server.
> >
> > --
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
Shekhar,
Thanks for your efforts and thoughts on this. I think we'll be fine with a
VM for now.
Also, I am open to some financial contributions for this specific purpose,
if needed.
Regards,
Ishan

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> This then goes back to the hosting question. Our original offer was
> co-hosting on the server which also hosts OHM (and ChaloBEST). This is
> apparently undesirable to the community.
>
> We could provide a dedicated box, but that was not my intent in restarting
> this thread, which goes back years. My aim was to remove the obstacle if
> hosting and storage are issues.
>
> Also hosting at HBCSE/TIFR (where I work and where Johnson made a start on
> this) is not reliable, as sys-admins there are few and overburdened, and
> servi es are unreliable.
>
> At this point only a small number of active OSM India enthusiasts would be
> using this service. Can we use a VM for now? If we're asking for a
> dedicated box I'll have to approach Tim and Schuyler in Topomancy to see if
> they agree.
>
> Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
> Mikel, any thoughts?
>
> S.K.
> On Jan 27, 2015 8:33 PM, "Sanjay Bhangar"  wrote:
>
>> Hey hey,
>>
>> Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half
>> remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan.
>> If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate
>> styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :)
>>
>> I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have
>> rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM.
>>
>> Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the
>> boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds
>> great.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sanjay
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this
>> takes is
>> >> changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > I am unable to get message which caused this confusion.
>> >
>> > We intend to have only tile server.
>> >
>> > --
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Alex Barth
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
> Mikel, any thoughts?


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Johnson Chetty
Hello,

Sorry for the extended silence.

FWIW:
The Indian OSM Tile server was done quite a while back, around April 2014.
Dr. Nagarjun, HBCSE had given us a machine in HBCSE and it was serving away
all the same. It's has been just sitting the same way until Dec. end when
we recommissioned it for tree mapping.

http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html

Local tiles for India with minutely updates were enabled as well, though
not needed i believe. Have just changed it to nightly.

The machine specs are:
Ubuntu 12.04
8 x 1.4GHz cores
8 GB RAM
Roughly around 850GB

The server has been recommisioned, as there were no further updates.
Arun and Satyakam both have logins on the machine already.

If we want to get things up on an interim basis, we can do so with the
setup and get up styling enabled for it.
Atleast we have some thing ready somewhere, so the designers can try stuff
out.

Cheers,



On 29 January 2015 at 02:52, Alex Barth  wrote:

>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan 
> wrote:
>
>> Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
>> Mikel, any thoughts?
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a 
dedicated box so work can start.


Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for 
dedicated use by OSM India.


I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for 
sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now.


Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies 
we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders?


Best,


Shekhar


On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote:


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:

Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a
> dedicated box so work can start.
>
> Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for
> dedicated use by OSM India.
>
> I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for
> sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now.
>
> Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies
> we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders?
>

​Hi Shekhar,​
​  S
o what is the plan now are we going to use the ​HBCSE​ setup or create a
new one ?
​i have asked Johnson ​for credentials on the present server , may be we
can use it as a staging server.


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
As a staff member of HBCSE, I request that we not rely on this server, 
as we're moving towards off-site hosting for anything but lab 
experiments. This is not appropriate for community use.



S.K.


On 01/29/15 05:28, Johnson Chetty wrote:

Hello,

Sorry for the extended silence.

FWIW:
The Indian OSM Tile server was done quite a while back, around April
2014. Dr. Nagarjun, HBCSE had given us a machine in HBCSE and it was
serving away all the same. It's has been just sitting the same way until
Dec. end when we recommissioned it for tree mapping.

http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html

Local tiles for India with minutely updates were enabled as well, though
not needed i believe. Have just changed it to nightly.

The machine specs are:
Ubuntu 12.04
8 x 1.4GHz cores
8 GB RAM
Roughly around 850GB

The server has been recommisioned, as there were no further updates.
Arun and Satyakam both have logins on the machine already.

If we want to get things up on an interim basis, we can do so with the
setup and get up styling enabled for it.
Atleast we have some thing ready somewhere, so the designers can try
stuff out.

Cheers,



On 29 January 2015 at 02:52, Alex Barth mailto:a...@mapbox.com>> wrote:


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan
mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:

Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Paramvir Singh
Hi All!

After we are agreed on this, can we put our minds on how to improve details and 
user contribution on OSM?

A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see JustDial 
too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping itself?




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> On 29-Jan-2015, at 9:43 am, Shekhar Krishnan  wrote:
> 
> If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a 
> dedicated box so work can start.
> 
> Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated 
> use by OSM India.
> 
> I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for 
> sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now.
> 
> Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we 
> want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders?
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Shekhar
> 
> 
>> On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan > > wrote:
>> 
>>Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India
>>community? Mikel, any thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers.
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Shekhar Krishnan



On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote:


​Hi Shekhar,​
​  S
o what is the plan now are we going to use the ​HBCSE​ setup or create a
new one ?


Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online 
today or soon.



​i have asked Johnson ​for credentials on the present server , may be we
can use it as a staging server.


My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary 
purposes.



S.K.





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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread satyaakam goswami
>
> A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see
> JustDial too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping
> itself?
>

​great to hear from you , have a Mapping party wherever you are , may be
start a new thread on the topic , make some noise we will all try to be
there .​
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-01-28 Thread Johnson Chetty
On 29 January 2015 at 10:06, Shekhar Krishnan  wrote:

>
>
> On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Shekhar,
>>   S
>> o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a
>> new one ?
>>
>
> Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online
> today or soon.
>
>  i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we
>> can use it as a staging server.
>>
>
> My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary
> purposes.
>
>
The machine I guess should be now used on an interim basis (unless Dr.
Nagarjun indicates otherwise)
Feel free to use it until we get a new machine (hopefully soon)
We are running a tree mapping service (trees.metastudio.org) which will use
the tile service.
We plan to get some foliage/greenery specific stylesheets for the tile
server. So the tile service will be running nonetheless.


> S.K.
>
>
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>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-02-18 Thread Shekhar Krishnan

Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out.


S.K.


On 01/27/15 13:32, H.S.Rai wrote:

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:


Doing what they are doing on an openstreetmap-based domain
would be highly misleading.


Why it could be misleading. OSM's current data will be used with custom style.



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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-01 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out.


​yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-04 Thread Johnson Chetty
Hello,

By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case the
new server acquisition and setup would take time.

Cheers,

On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
> wrote:
>
>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out.
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-05 Thread Arun Ganesh
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case
> the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
>
> Is there a url for this?



> Cheers,
>
> On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out.
>>
>>
>> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays
>> coming up for Holi can work then .
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-05 Thread Johnson Chetty
http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case
>> the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
>>
>> Is there a url for this?
>
>
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan >> > wrote:
>>>
 Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered
 out.
>>>
>>>
>>> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays
>>> coming up for Holi can work then .
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>>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
I do not recommend using the TIFR servers for community purposes as we have
nobody on staff currently to manage them.

My offer of hosting via Topomancy still stands. Alex from Mapbox also
mentioned a possibility of support. Sajjad and Sanjay should advise.

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On 05-Mar-2015 1:54 pm, "Johnson Chetty"  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case
> the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered out.
>>
>>
>> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays
>> coming up for Holi can work then .
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Nagarjuna G.
If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!

GN
 On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty"  wrote:

> http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
>
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case
>>> the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
>>>
>>> Is there a url for this?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami  wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan <
 shek...@topomancy.com> wrote:

> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered
> out.


 yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays
 coming up for Holi can work then .


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Nagarjuna G.
On 06-Mar-2015 2:04 pm, "Shekhar Krishnan"  wrote:
>
> I do not recommend using the TIFR servers for community purposes as we
have nobody on staff currently to manage them.
>

I can hire if you can help in finding a person.  Or train a person I hire.

I an exploring to get the satellite images from Bhuvan.  It is difficult to
get them if the server is not part of govt.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Arun Ganesh
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G.  wrote:

> If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!
>

Lets fix this first.

Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome
if its on github.

 GN
>  On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty"  wrote:
>
>> http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
>>
>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case
 the new server acquisition and setup would take time.

 Is there a url for this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Cheers,

 On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami 
 wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan <
> shek...@topomancy.com> wrote:
>
>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered
>> out.
>
>
> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays
> coming up for Holi can work then .
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Johnson Chetty
On 6 March 2015 at 16:36, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. 
wrote:
>>
>> If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!
>
>
> Lets fix this first.
>
> Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be
awesome if its on github.

Okay.. you want the default osm.xml or a separate style layer as
mapnik_style.xml for renderd?
I just saw that india streets repo and it seems you have mml stylesheet?

>
>
>> GN
>>
>> On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty"  wrote:
>>>
>>> http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh  wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty <
johnsonche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in
case the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
>
 Is there a url for this?


>
> Cheers,
>
> On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami 
wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan <
shek...@topomancy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread
sputtered out.
>>
>>
>> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some
holidays coming up for Holi can work then .
>>
>>
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G.  wrote:

> If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!
>

Lets fix this first.

Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be awesome
if its on github.

 GN
>  On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty"  wrote:
>
>> http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
>>
>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ... in case
 the new server acquisition and setup would take time.

 Is there a url for this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Cheers,

 On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami 
 wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan <
> shek...@topomancy.com> wrote:
>
>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread sputtered
>> out.
>
>
> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some holidays
> coming up for Holi can work then .
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Shekhar Krishnan
I am withdrawing the offer of hosting from Topomancy for OSM India 
community server.


All the same, I do not believe that having untrained and transient 
volunteers managing a service like this is at all viable, and don't know 
why such a simple question has led to such a prolonged debate.


This is why I recommended against hosting at HBCSE-TIFR, where I am on 
staff, and know how poorly resourced we are at the moment.



S.K.


On Friday 06 March 2015 08:40 PM, Johnson Chetty wrote:


On 6 March 2015 at 16:36, Arun Ganesh mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. mailto:nagar...@gnowledge.org>> wrote:
 >>
 >> If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!
 >
 >
 > Lets fix this first.
 >
 > Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be
awesome if its on github.

Okay.. you want the default osm.xml or a separate style layer as
mapnik_style.xml for renderd?
I just saw that india streets repo and it seems you have mml stylesheet?

 >
 >
 >> GN
 >>
 >> On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty" mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
  On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty
mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >
 > Hello,
 >
 > By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ...
in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
 >
  Is there a url for this?
 
 
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >>
 >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan
mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread
sputtered out.
 >>
 >>
 >> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some
holidays coming up for Holi can work then .
 >>
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. mailto:nagar...@gnowledge.org>> wrote:

If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!


Lets fix this first.

Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be
awesome if its on github.

GN

On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty" mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com>> wrote:

http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html


On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty
mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello,

By the way, the tile service is still running on the
server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup
would take time.

Is there a url for this?

Cheers,

On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami
mailto:satyaa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan
mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>>wrote:

Knock knock. We were moving along with this and
the thread sputtered out.


yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i
have some holidays coming up for H

Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread H.S.Rai
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Nagarjuna G.  wrote:
>
> I an exploring to get the satellite images from Bhuvan.

How much benefits we are expecting to have from such imagery?

> It is difficult to get them if the server is not part of govt.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Johnson Chetty
Hi Shekhar,

On 6 March 2015 at 21:40, Shekhar Krishnan  wrote:

> I am withdrawing the offer of hosting from Topomancy for OSM India
> community server.
>


 > Hello,
 >
 > By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ...
in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time.


> All the same, I do not believe that having untrained and transient
> volunteers managing a service like this is at all viable, and don't know
> why such a simple question has led to such a prolonged debate.
>

Prolonged debate? We had set the tile server up in April last year but the
interest did not pick up. There was no interest in it from anyone after the
system stood!

>Nagarjun had written:

>gnowledge lab has recently acquired a deidated server for openstreetmap.
Johnson, Sanjay, Sathyakam, Sajjad and Arun have already promised to
>maintain the server. (included them in cc since I am not sure if I am
subscribed to the talk-in group.

I was the only one who got my hands dirty with this with inputs from mostly
from Arun and Sajjad.

I thought that this effort would be in the same vein, that it would take a
good amount of time to start with the new install and for someone to take
ownership of this task to see it through.

And rather than wait for so long, the server which was already set up could
have easily been used by those who wanted to play with the stylesheets
until things actually materialized. Was it offensive to have stated the
availability of it? At least we would have had some understanding to set up
a new machine more easily, in doing so.



> This is why I recommended against hosting at HBCSE-TIFR, where I am on
> staff, and know how poorly resourced we are at the moment.
>
>
>




> S.K.
>
>
> On Friday 06 March 2015 08:40 PM, Johnson Chetty wrote:
>
>>
>> On 6 March 2015 at 16:36, Arun Ganesh > > wrote:
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. > > wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Lets fix this first.
>>  >
>>  > Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be
>> awesome if its on github.
>>
>> Okay.. you want the default osm.xml or a separate style layer as
>> mapnik_style.xml for renderd?
>> I just saw that india streets repo and it seems you have mml stylesheet?
>>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> GN
>>  >>
>>  >> On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty" > > wrote:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh > > wrote:
>>  
>>   On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty
>> mailto:johnsonche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Hello,
>>  >
>>  > By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ...
>> in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
>>  >
>>   Is there a url for this?
>>  
>>  
>>  >
>>  > Cheers,
>>  >
>>  > On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami > > wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan
>> mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread
>> sputtered out.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some
>> holidays coming up for Holi can work then .
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-06 Thread Arun Ganesh
In the meantime, i've forked openstreetmap-carto on my local system and
have the boundary fix in place.
http://i.imgur.com/Jm69u7v.png


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-11 Thread Johnson Chetty
Hello,

Interim update for the OSM India Tile Server

http://maps.metastudio.org/osm-india/slippymap.html

Arun's boundaries fix applied.
Set up of daily updation from OSM data is underway...
The updation scripts repos are old/dead links and timestamp servers have
moved.
But, there are alternatives which can and need to be set up. I'm creating
documentation for it as I go along.
So we will put that up in a wiki/repo somewhere.

Arun, more stylesheets please? :) That India-streets one was nice.



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> have the boundary fix in place.
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-12 Thread Johnson Chetty
Hey,

Hi Arun, I think Shravan's boundary seems to be different.
http://shravan91.github.io/OSMIN/
Which would be more accurate?




On 11 March 2015 at 15:07, Johnson Chetty  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Interim update for the OSM India Tile Server
>
> http://maps.metastudio.org/osm-india/slippymap.html
>
> Arun's boundaries fix applied.
> Set up of daily updation from OSM data is underway...
> The updation scripts repos are old/dead links and timestamp servers have
> moved.
> But, there are alternatives which can and need to be set up. I'm creating
> documentation for it as I go along.
> So we will put that up in a wiki/repo somewhere.
>
> Arun, more stylesheets please? :) That India-streets one was nice.
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> On 6 March 2015 at 22:44, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
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>> In the meantime, i've forked openstreetmap-carto on my local system and
>> have the boundary fix in place.
>> http://i.imgur.com/Jm69u7v.png
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

2015-03-12 Thread Johnson Chetty
Hey Shravan,

Good stuff! I like the boundary lines! :)

On 11 March 2015 at 16:03, shravan  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have been playing around with Mapbox JS
>  and have managed to host
> OpenStreetMap for India with search function on Github
> . I will further editing the website
> in coming weeks.
>
> Thank You,
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