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Re: [Talk-in] how to store the gov agency which currently manages this infra

2017-05-05 Per discussione vikas yadav

On 5 May 2017 at 22:03, muzirian <muzir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> will operator or ownership be key useful for your case?
>

Operator sounds good one http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator
Ownership which for streets/bridges/dustbins/etc is useless after ~5 years
since agencies transfer operations to diff one.


> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Vikas Yadav <vi...@thevikas.com> wrote:
>
>> So there a existing tag in OSM which I can use for storing?
>>
>> On 5 May 2017 at 16:01, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Different agencies are responsible for different functions of an asset,
>>> but usually should just be one organisation responsible for the operation
>>> and maintenance of an asset.
>>>
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Re: [Talk-in] how to store the gov agency which currently manages this infra

2017-05-05 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

So there a existing tag in OSM which I can use for storing?

On 5 May 2017 at 16:01, Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> Different agencies are responsible for different functions of an asset,
> but usually should just be one organisation responsible for the operation
> and maintenance of an asset.
>
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[Talk-in] how to store the gov agency which currently manages this infra

2017-05-05 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi,

My neighbourhood has lot of agencies which keep the actual ownership of any
infra confusing. (like road, school, street light,etc). There are many like
XX Development Authority, Municipal Corporation, PWD, NHAI, etc. Are there
tags which I can just store just references to responsible office for a
street (gov_agency: "HUDA, Division VI" or "MCG, Zone 4","DJB, Circle N").
The is not the same as who constructed it cause they keep the ownership
moving between agencies every few years.

Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2016-03-22 Per discussione vikas yadav

I added some comments to urban area in the talk page.

On 22 March 2016 at 15:34, Jaisen Nedumpala <jaisuv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have made a few additions and corrections to to this page:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Boundaries
>
> Please have a look at that.
>
>
> 2013-12-22 18:05 GMT+05:30 Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Lets take the discussion to the wiki.
>>
>> For anyone interested to join in:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:India:Boundaries
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) <
>> mevi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> my remarks about the proposal (also added in the talk page).
>>>
>>> Attributes
>>>
>>> There are few properties of each political boundaries:
>>>
>>>1. Elected Person
>>>2. Election Year
>>>3. ECI AC Number (ref number)
>>>4. ECI PC Number (ref number)
>>>5. ECI Ward Number (ref number)
>>>
>>> We need to support at least these in the attributes of political
>>> boundaries to support extensions which can later take data from other
>>> source or database. There are many other properties but these are the
>>> minimum.
>>> Ward boundary
>>>
>>> Ward members are also elected. Though they dont seem to be in the
>>> political boundary. Please suggest.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, I have to checked other boundaries but even those should support
>>> some attributes that help identify that region using govt. assigned ref
>>> number for extensions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 December 2013 22:01, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jaisen.
>>>>
>>>> I have updated the wiki with the added details you mentioned:
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries
>>>>
>>>> Please check if anything is missing and update the page as necessary.
>>>> This is probably the most comprehensive documentation for boundary mapping
>>>> for any country. If the scheme can accommodate India, it can probably cover
>>>> any other country too.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala <jaisuv...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Shall I add my ideas on these boundaries?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my vision, The following are the most prominent administrative
>>>>> divisions in India:
>>>>>
>>>>> First set - Administrative boundaries
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Territorial waters (Exclusive Economic Zone) (as per United
>>>>> Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea)
>>>>> 2. Zones (Interstate council)
>>>>> 3. States and Union Territories (Governer and Chief Minister)
>>>>> 4. Revenue Districts (District Collector)
>>>>> 5. Revenue Divisions (Revenue Divisional Officer)
>>>>> 6. Taluks / Tehsils (Tahsildar)
>>>>> 7. Revenue Villages (Village officer)
>>>>> 8. Survey / Re-survey /Un-survey - field measurement plots and sub
>>>>> divisions
>>>>>
>>>>> Second Set - Legislative boundaries
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Lok Sabha (Parliament) Constituency [Lok Sabha - MP]
>>>>> 2. Legislative Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency [States and
>>>>> Union Territories - MLA]
>>>>>
>>>>> Third Set - Local Self Government
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Rural
>>>>> a. District (Zilla) Panchayat (President and Secretary)
>>>>> i Divisions (Member)
>>>>> b. Development Blocks (Block/Mandal Panchayat) (President and
>>>>> Block Development Officer/Secretary)
>>>>> i Divisions (Member)
>>>>> c. Grama (Village) Panchayat ( Rural Local Authority)
>>>>> (President/Sarpanch and Secretary)
>>>>> i Wards (Member)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Urban
>>>>> a. Municipality / Municipal Corporation / Nagar Panchayat
>>>>> (Urban Local Authority) and Metropolitan Region (Mayor and Sec

Re: [Talk-in] State of the Map India

2014-04-22 Per discussione vikas yadav

On 19/04/2014, Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just a thought: No place less exotic than the northeast of the country
 should suffice for our first SOTM-India. Whatsay?

+1

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Re: [Talk-in] calculate area (sqkm) of a boundary

2013-12-22 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Thanks Arun.
Still having trouble. The JOSM measurement plugin does not work on multiple
selections of lines as are my borders.
And never used QGIS.


On 22 December 2013 17:37, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) 
 mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to calculate the area of a region/boundary in josm and I cant
 find a good solution. There are plugins doing that but they do that only
 for full single line region. Not when the region is surrounded from
 multiple lines. I don't want perfection on this so available mapped
 accuracy is good enough.
 Any other tools which can help?


 This is pretty trivial using QGIS and imported OSM shapefiles.

 For josm, maybe
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/measurement ?



 Thanks,
 Vikas


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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-21 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi,

my remarks about the proposal (also added in the talk page).

Attributes

There are few properties of each political boundaries:

   1. Elected Person
   2. Election Year
   3. ECI AC Number (ref number)
   4. ECI PC Number (ref number)
   5. ECI Ward Number (ref number)

We need to support at least these in the attributes of political boundaries
to support extensions which can later take data from other source or
database. There are many other properties but these are the minimum.
 Ward boundary

Ward members are also elected. Though they dont seem to be in the political
boundary. Please suggest.


Also, I have to checked other boundaries but even those should support some
attributes that help identify that region using govt. assigned ref number
for extensions.


Thanks.


On 21 December 2013 22:01, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Jaisen.

 I have updated the wiki with the added details you mentioned:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries

 Please check if anything is missing and update the page as necessary. This
 is probably the most comprehensive documentation for boundary mapping for
 any country. If the scheme can accommodate India, it can probably cover any
 other country too.

 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala jaisuv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Shall I add my ideas on these boundaries?

 In my vision, The following are the most prominent administrative
 divisions in India:

 First set - Administrative boundaries

 1. Territorial waters (Exclusive Economic Zone) (as per United
 Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea)
 2. Zones (Interstate council)
 3. States and Union Territories (Governer and Chief Minister)
 4. Revenue Districts (District Collector)
 5. Revenue Divisions (Revenue Divisional Officer)
 6. Taluks / Tehsils (Tahsildar)
 7. Revenue Villages (Village officer)
 8. Survey / Re-survey /Un-survey - field measurement plots and sub
 divisions

 Second Set - Legislative boundaries

 1. Lok Sabha (Parliament) Constituency [Lok Sabha - MP]
 2. Legislative Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency [States and Union
 Territories - MLA]

 Third Set - Local Self Government

 1. Rural
 a. District (Zilla) Panchayat (President and Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 b. Development Blocks (Block/Mandal Panchayat) (President and
 Block Development Officer/Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 c. Grama (Village) Panchayat ( Rural Local Authority)
 (President/Sarpanch and Secretary)
 i Wards (Member)

 2. Urban
 a. Municipality / Municipal Corporation / Nagar Panchayat (Urban
 Local Authority) and Metropolitan Region (Mayor and Secretary)
 i. Zones
 ii. Wards (Councillor)

 3. Cantonment area (Officer in Command)
  (Don't know it's divisions :( (Military area Local Authority)

 Fourth Set - Courts and Police
 1. Jurisdiction of various courts
 2. Police Districts
 3. Police Circles
 3. Jurisdiction of Police Stations

 Fifth Set - Miscellaneous
 1. Special Economic Zones
 2. Coastal Regulation Zone
 3. Ecologically Sensitive Areas

 I think the above listed are the important sets, regarding the
 administrative divisions of India. Besides these, almost all the government
 departments of various tiers of administration, have their own internal
 administrative boundaries.
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[Talk-in] calculate area (sqkm) of a boundary

2013-12-21 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi,

I am trying to calculate the area of a region/boundary in josm and I cant
find a good solution. There are plugins doing that but they do that only
for full single line region. Not when the region is surrounded from
multiple lines. I don't want perfection on this so available mapped
accuracy is good enough.
Any other tools which can help?

Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-20 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Thanks Sajjad.
So I guess, I will continue using the PDF files for constituencies to trace
assemblies then?

(OT: The census of 2000 and the delimitation was done in 2008? When will
they incorporate the 2011 census then?)

On 20 December 2013 16:00, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:

Dear Vikas,

These boundaries are no longer valid because they have changed in 2008.
Unfortunately, they haven't released the post-delimitation data.

Follow along the discussion on the Datameet list -
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/datameet/AZrQAoeeDhU

Cheers,
Sajjad.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

http://web.archive.org/web/20101012225159/http://eci.gov.in/eci_main/GisLayers/gis_layers.asp

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/GisLayers/GIS_AC_Data.zip
http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/GisLayers/GIS_PC_Data.zip

They upgraded their site recently.

On 20 December 2013 13:16, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks Shajeer.
I like this idea. No experience is working with shape files though. Do
you
know which govt dept. makes shape files? Is it ECI or other?

On 19 December 2013 15:56, Shajeer M shaj...@hotmail.com wrote:

Based on the old email

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2009-March/000378.html
discussions we had, election commission did put some shape files for PC
(Parliament) and AC (Assembly). This is no longer available on their
site.

Quick search shows a similar named file here -

https://bitbucket.org/thejeshgn/open-data-india/src/d2e84516e06525962fc61991bfdaa28ecf133fa2/GIS/India_PC/?at=default

From: Arun Ganesh
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:04 PM
To: Vikas Yadav
Cc: OpenStreetMap in India
Subject: Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I
have
a fair Idea now of how our Government is structured :)

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this:

Electoral

State [State Secretariat - Chief Minister]

Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]

Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]

District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)

Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]

Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]

Revenue

District [Headquarter - Collector]

Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]

Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]

Village Block

Civic

Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat [Town
Hall - Mayor]

Zone [Zone office]

Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]

Economic

Metropolitan Region

SEZ

Police

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com
wrote:

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use
population to adjust it properly though other parameters are also
used. In
conjunction to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries
are
very critical. Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP,
MLA or
Councillor depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we
put in
OSM. Also, all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There
is no
hierarchy to these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary
constituencies or two municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All
the
infrastructure we have in OSM india, like streets, schools, signals,
toilets, they all belong to a particular ward, assembly or
parliamentary
boundary depending on the type of POI. When this gets defined
properly, OSM
data can later be used very nicely by citizens to locate responsible
offices
for complaining and monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)

On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

(also posted this in osm india forum)

I have checked the info for India in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrativeand
could
not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
limits. I
have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by election
commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
better data
source.
Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.

Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with
administrative boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I
would think
we should reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative
divisions
like those mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts

Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-19 Per discussione vikas yadav

Thanks Shajeer.
I like this idea. No experience is working with shape files though. Do you
know which govt dept. makes shape files? Is it ECI or other?

On 19 December 2013 15:56, Shajeer M shaj...@hotmail.com wrote:

Based on the old email
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2009-March/000378.htmldiscussions
we had, election commission did put some shape files for PC
(Parliament) and AC (Assembly). This is no longer available on their site.

Quick search shows a similar named file here -
https://bitbucket.org/thejeshgn/open-data-india/src/d2e84516e06525962fc61991bfdaa28ecf133fa2/GIS/India_PC/?at=default

*From:* Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:04 PM
*To:* Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com
*Cc:* OpenStreetMap in India talk-in@openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I have a
fair Idea now of how our Government is structured :)

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this:

Electoral
1.

State [State Secretariat – Chief Minister]
2.

Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]
3.

Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]
4.

District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)
5.

Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]
6.

Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]
2.

Revenue
1.

District [Headquarter - Collector]
2.

Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]
3.

Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]
4.

Village Block
3.

Civic
1.

Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat
[Town Hall - Mayor]
2.

Zone [Zone office]
3.

Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]
4.

Economic
1.

Metropolitan Region
2.

SEZ
5.

Police

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com wrote:

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use population
to adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In conjunction
to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are very critical.
Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA or Councillor
depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we put in OSM. Also,
all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There is no hierarchy to
these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary constituencies or two
municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All the infrastructure we have in
OSM india, like streets, schools, signals, toilets, they all belong to a
particular ward, assembly or parliamentary boundary depending on the type
of POI. When this gets defined properly, OSM data can later be used very
nicely by citizens to locate responsible offices for complaining and
monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)

On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

(also posted this in osm india forum)

I have checked the info for India in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and
could not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
limits. I have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by
election commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
better data source.
Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.

Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with administrative
boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think we should
reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions like those
mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations,
Municipalities, Panchayats

There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably more
relevant for constituencies:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

But even I'm not completely sure how these boundaries compare in India,
we have so many types of overlapping jurisdictions and need a better
understanding of what they are to come up with a tagging scheme. Is there
any comprehensive resources to understand all these boundaries, I'll
document them on the wiki if there are any leads.

Please suggest.

Thanks,
Vikas

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-19 Per discussione vikas yadav

http://web.archive.org/web/20101012225159/http://eci.gov.in/eci_main/GisLayers/gis_layers.asp

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/GisLayers/GIS_AC_Data.zip
http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/GisLayers/GIS_PC_Data.zip

They upgraded their site recently.

On 20 December 2013 13:16, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.comwrote:

Thanks Shajeer.
I like this idea. No experience is working with shape files though. Do you
know which govt dept. makes shape files? Is it ECI or other?

On 19 December 2013 15:56, Shajeer M shaj...@hotmail.com wrote:

Quick search shows a similar named file here -
https://bitbucket.org/thejeshgn/open-data-india/src/d2e84516e06525962fc61991bfdaa28ecf133fa2/GIS/India_PC/?at=default

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I have
a fair Idea now of how our Government is structured :)

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this:

Electoral
1.

State [State Secretariat - Chief Minister]
2.

Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]
3.

Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]
4.

District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)
5.

Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]
6.

Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]
2.

Revenue
1.

District [Headquarter - Collector]
2.

Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]
3.

Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]
4.

Village Block
3.

Civic
1.

Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat
[Town Hall - Mayor]
2.

Zone [Zone office]
3.

Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]
4.

Economic
1.

Metropolitan Region
2.

SEZ
5.

Police

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com wrote:

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use
population to adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In
conjunction to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are
very critical. Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA
or Councillor depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we put
in OSM. Also, all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There is
no hierarchy to these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary
constituencies or two municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All the
infrastructure we have in OSM india, like streets, schools, signals,
toilets, they all belong to a particular ward, assembly or parliamentary
boundary depending on the type of POI. When this gets defined properly, OSM
data can later be used very nicely by citizens to locate responsible
offices for complaining and monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)

On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

(also posted this in osm india forum)

I have checked the info for India in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and
could not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
limits. I have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by
election commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
better data source.
Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.

Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with
administrative boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think
we should reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions
like those mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations,
Municipalities, Panchayats

There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably
more relevant for constituencies:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-18 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use population
to adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In conjunction
to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are very critical.
Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA or Councillor
 depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we put in OSM. Also,
all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There is no hierarchy to
these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary constituencies or two
municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All the infrastructure we have in
OSM india, like streets, schools, signals, toilets, they all belong to a
particular ward, assembly or parliamentary boundary depending on the type
of POI. When this gets defined properly, OSM data can later be used very
nicely by citizens to locate responsible offices for complaining and
monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)


On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) 
 mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 (also posted this in osm india forum)

 I have checked the info for India in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and
 could not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
 limits. I have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by
 election commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
 better data source.
 Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
 admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.


 Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with administrative
 boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think we should
 reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions like those
 mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

 i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations,
 Municipalities, Panchayats

 There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably more
 relevant for constituencies:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

 But even I'm not completely sure how these boundaries compare in India, we
 have so many types of overlapping jurisdictions and need a better
 understanding of what they are to come up with a tagging scheme. Is there
 any comprehensive resources to understand all these boundaries, I'll
 document them on the wiki if there are any leads.

 Please suggest.

 Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-10 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

On 10 January 2011 00:45, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:

 2011/1/9 ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com:
  I surveying from Northern India. I studied how addresses are to be tagged
 in
  order so nominatim can locate it. That went great. The problem is the
 every
  house has to be tied to a street (addr:street).
  1) We don't have names for living streets


 are you sure you are talking about living streets or do you mean
 residential streets?


  2) We so many times have blocks or sectors (tagged as locality or hamlet)


 locality should be used for uninhabited places

locality is the way i could properly render blocks and sectors right now in
OSM india. please suggest if there is a better/proper way achieving the same
render result.

z12: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.408lon=77.0776zoom=12layers=M
 - you can spot sectors (govt sold residential area) as well as private
societies (private sold resi are).

z14: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.4141lon=77.0564zoom=14layers=M
now, you can see blocks to sectors too like block A,B,C or Phase 1,2 or Part
1 or Part 2 which are within the same sector. (but there are no known naming
rules so there are always exceptions)
Only sometimes, street names are only connecting sectors. but never are
there street names within a sector.





 sorry, that I cannot help you with your original problem.

 cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-10 Per discussione vikas yadav

Neither block or sector are OSM places. I have used halmet/locality and
suburb. by these, rendering is proper
if using the existing system could i propose addr:hamlet or addr:suburb
support?
Also, rendering probably is fine.
Its just how gazetteer/nominatim search algo that would require supporting
alternate tags.

Thanks,
Vikas

On 10 January 2011 15:34, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote:

 It sounds like the current set of tags and structures in OSM don't properly
 support what you're trying to do at the moment.  I think the best way to
 deal with it would to propose some new tags so that these type of addressing
 schemes can be properly supported in OSM with supporting documentation.

 It sounds like you need some sort of block or sector tag you could set on
 areas to define them properly.  A couple of other tags for addressing like
 addr:block and addr:sector could then be added.

 It would definitely take some time before they get supported by the
 renderers and routers but I think that since a good sized chunk of the world
 uses these types of addressing systems we should have an explicit way to
 deal with them instead of trying to shoehorn them into a more European
 system.  It will make it easier for mappers there to do things properly and
 probably also make things work more reliably.

 I don't have the experience with this type addressing to feel comfortable
 doing any of that but if you put something up on the wiki people can use and
 work on it.

 Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-10 Per discussione vikas yadav

I used hamlet for my block as pop limit of 1000 is given = satisfied
I used suburb for it is neither a village or a town but holds 2 ~ 10 blocks
= suggest

We do have villages within cities and they have been tagged properly,
villages never have sub areas or blocks.
Therefore, sectors are not villages.

On 10 January 2011 16:35, Brian Quinion
openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.ukwrote:

  2) We so many times have blocks or sectors (tagged as locality or hamlet)

 OK - this sounds like a combination of bad tagging and software
 problems with nominatim and the mapnik style sheet.

 Can I suggest that locality and hamlet are probably not the correct
 tags and that you need to come up with a consistent way to tag these
 types of features.  Once there is a valid tagging scheme support can
 be added to nominatim.

 The suggestion of place=block or place=sector and addr:block,
 addr:sector sound like a good direction to go.

 So

 1) they need to be documented on the wiki
 2) discussed to look for any problems - for instance do they work in
 other countries with similar problems?
 3) a sample area needs to be tagged
 4) software tools need to be extended to support the new tags.

 This can potentially be done quite quickly - and using tags which do
 not overlap with existing tags makes this a LOT simpler!

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[OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-09 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi,

I surveying from Northern India. I studied how addresses are to be tagged in
order so nominatim can locate it. That went great. The problem is the every
house has to be tied to a street (addr:street).
1) We don't have names for living streets
2) We so many times have blocks or sectors (tagged as locality or hamlet)

Just to get the parser work accurately I had to name closeby living_street
street as Sector 46 or Block B - which when rendered would look very
strange cause that should only be name of the area and not the name of
street. But that is the only way I could successfully parse address such as
19, Block A1, South City II, Gurgoan or 1532, Sector 46, Gurgoan which
are exact postal address.

So is there a way that I can tie a addr: to a hamlet/locality instead of
street?

(I installed Nominatim myself to be able to hit-and-try and learn the exact
way, therefore these example addresses won't work on live on current data.)

Please suggest,
Vikas
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Re: [Talk-in] Add myself to india category

2010-12-13 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi Amit,

Great to have you in OSM India. We don't have many mappers from your region.
You could contribute a lot.
Which Varanasi category are you referring about? Is it the wiki or something
else?

Regards,
Vikas

On 13 December 2010 23:46, Amit Pal amix@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey ,


  I am beginner for this open street map and native of varanasi .
 even i didn't found the irc channel for OSM INDIA.  So, could anyone
 tell me how to add myself in varanasi category.
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Re: [Talk-in] bing imagery

2010-12-03 Per discussione vikas yadav

On 3 December 2010 14:38, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 19:32 +0530, Subhodip Biswas wrote:
  So if I use the Bing Image service and contribute a map to OSM and at
  the same time I use that map for a Fleet management system of mine.
  WIill I be at stake?

 osm license allows you to use osm data for the fleet management. You
 cant use M$ interface for that.


but what i think, M$ can use my edit to render their map. rest is much like
google.


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Re: [Talk-in] SoM-I

2009-12-18 Per discussione vikas yadav

2009/12/19 satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com

 On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:31 AM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org
 wrote:
 
  it should be SOTMI - date around nov/dec - venue Ludhiana?

 For venue +1

 That will be most convenient to me. Date seems with long waiting
 period, though good for planning and organisation. What about Aug /
 sept.


 Anybody for  NCR ??


me from NCR yes.
but i guess there is not much fun if you can't spend time going there adding
trails and pois. :)

my options could be calcutta or pune.
Ludhiana is also just fine -  except it would be all mapped out by then.



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Re: [Talk-in] SoM-I

2009-12-18 Per discussione vikas yadav

2009/12/19 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org

 On Saturday 19 Dec 2009 10:10:10 am ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) wrote:
   period, though good for planning and organisation. What about Aug /
   sept.
  
   Anybody for  NCR ??
 
  me from NCR yes.
  but i guess there is not much fun if you can't spend time going there
   adding trails and pois. :)
 
  my options could be calcutta or pune.
  Ludhiana is also just fine -  except it would be all mapped out by then.
 

 no chance - it takes months to map all shops and houses even on a small
 road.
 Even now, Gill village does not have a single tea shop - how can one live
 there ;-)


boy. you are doing a pre-selection study!?
then add my Veg restaurants as a required=true.

actually I wanted to add some teashtops even here in gurgaon but I could not
locate the agreed tag specs.


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Re: [Talk-in] SoM-I

2009-12-16 Per discussione vikas yadav

2009/12/17 Sudev Barar sba...@gmail.com

 2009/12/17 H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com:
  I think, it is time to plan State of the Map: National Conference for
 India
 

 +1


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Re: [Talk-in] Naming in Hindi / Punjabi

2009-12-15 Per discussione vikas yadav

this is rendering in exclusive (whevever available)
http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/browse-hi.html

I'd go with (brackets) for better reading two different things - primary
language of the state (english). ive used this same pattern for most of UP
and few others. (the pattern somehow also shows the world how diversified
just this one country is :p )

ill soon experiment with name:hi on city level POIs and see how
browse-hi.html renders.

but till now, mapnik is still not rendering very neat indic. in hindi, the
matras go all wrong and funny. i don't know about other languages.
ti...@home renders the best fonts.
what about this?


2009/12/16 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org

 On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 7:43:55 am H.S.Rai wrote:
   I disagree. This is very helpful as it helps both english literate and
   vernacular literate
 
  It has another issue. If one use these maps in GPS units (Like
  Garmin), then he won't able to search cities / POI named as per above
  scheme. Even same may be to true for search on OSM.
 

 I am for name in english and name in regional language without brackets
 like:
 chennai சென்னை
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Re: [Talk-in] Naming in Hindi / Punjabi

2009-12-15 Per discussione vikas yadav

-1

okay, then hold the way it is now for about a year cause brakets is also a
means I/we use to locate what is done and what is todo. the brakets are
loaded with name:hi,pb,bn,etc and also with
is_in:state,country,district,etc. and pin_codes. (most OSM india is still on
unedited AND data)
otherwise i/we have to digg josm place tag and see which is very very slow.
the default OSM/mapnik is what everyone refers to so its fine to use that as
a progress bar.
wikipedia also allows little play till the article is good and heavy for
production - we are much far away from finish lines.
:)

2009/12/16 H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com

 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org
 wrote:
 
  I am for name in english and name in regional language without brackets
 like:
  chennai சென்னை

 What I suggest, for English version, go to openstreetmap.org , for
 Hindi openstreetmap.org.in and for regional languages,
 openstreetmap.org.in/local , with each state rendered in its regional
 language, or URL for different languages like:

 Punjabi: openstreetmap.org.in/pb

 and like that openstreetmap.org.in/kn and so on.

 Two languages simultaneously does not fit into logic, as in future
 search for regional languages will create problem with scheme as
 suggested by Kenneth.

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Re: [OSM-talk] indic fonts in mapnik, JOSM and Potlatch

2009-12-13 Per discussione vikas yadav

Like this? http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/browse-hi.html


 Maybe you already knew it..

 a great link! lovely!
I used to keep filling name:hi via wikipedia, now I saw a hindi exclusive
map.
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Re: [OSM-talk] indic fonts in mapnik, JOSM and Potlatch

2009-12-13 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) schrieb:


  Like this? http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/browse-hi.html


Maybe you already knew it..

 a great link! lovely!
 I used to keep filling name:hi via wikipedia, now I saw a hindi exclusive
 map.


 It's on of the pre-versions of the localized maps for Wikipedia. There is
 one for every language that has a wikipedia:


it works on name:iso key=pair only or something extra for wikipedia
linkages?
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Re: [Talk-in] state borders? (was:Default view of OSMI)

2009-12-01 Per discussione vikas yadav

(out-topic

indic fonts not rendering?
how to import state borders into osm? how did you guys do it for southern
states?
)

2009/12/2 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org

 On Tuesday 01 Dec 2009 5:30:27 pm H.S.Rai wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org
 wrote:
   no idea how to do that - will try to find out.
 
  Earlier it used to be golf course. So I believe you did it earlier.
 

 yes - I changed it to get permalink to work
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Re: [OSM-talk] a painted board with map of the locality (you-are-here)

2009-11-29 Per discussione vikas yadav

Thank you.

2009/11/29 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com

 2009/11/29 ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com:
  Is there a POI for boards that are usually at the entrance of residential
  localities showing the streets/names and plot numbers - like you-are-here
  ones?

 I use tourism=information +
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:information + map_type=*.  If
 you want to specify more properties of the map,
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Dboard lists some
 tags (not sure if anybody uses these)

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[OSM-talk] a painted board with map of the locality (you-are-here)

2009-11-28 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi,

Is there a POI for boards that are usually at the entrance of residential
localities showing the streets/names and plot numbers - like you-are-here
ones?
(a POI on a map showing where the map is :p)
Could not locate it in the wiki.

Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk] iPhone vs Android - OSM shootout

2009-11-26 Per discussione vikas yadav

(OpenMoko could also be an option?
Comes with GTK itself so GPSd along with josm or anything else should run
better than mobile platforms

moko also comes with resistance based touch and 3d accel and gps and all
regular features and also my favourite USB host option.

me contemplating to buy one of those)

2009/11/24 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com

 Hi,
 I'm looking for the best mobile phone for OpenStreetMap.
 Which mobile phone do you think is better for OpenStreetMap?

 Things for consideration are:
 - onboard GPS precision
 - applications for GPS logging
 - applications for POI collection
 - battery life when mapping (how long can you map)

 Please share any experience that you have with any or even better if you
 had experience with both of them. I only user iPhone for a short while,
 and haven't even seen Android for real but I ran Android emulator via SDK
 to get a feel for it.


 Here are some of my thoughts...

 Android positive points:
 - platform on the uptake, more apps coming every day
 - nice POI collection app [1]
 - runs multiple apps at once
 - quite open platform

 Android negative points:
 - less apps than iPhone, both for OSM and general
 - not so good as multimedia player (video and audio podcasts)
 - a bit bigger and heavier than iPhone


 iPhone positive points:
 - lots of apps, both for OSM and general [2]
 - CloudMade MapZen POI collector supports for iPhone [3]
 - multitouch interface
 - great multimedia player (video and audio podcasts)
 - nice deal for a 2 year T-Mobile contract

 iPhone negative points:
 - runs only one app at once :(
 - pretty closed platform :(
 - quite expensive, no carrier in Croatia offers it in contract deals :(


 [1] http://maps.bigtincan.com/btc-mapper.php
 [2] http://blog.cloudmade.com/2009/03/19/bring-cloudmade-maps-to-your-
 iphone-application/http://blog.cloudmade.com/2009/03/19/bring-cloudmade-maps-to-your-%0Aiphone-application/
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[OSM-talk] watching areas/places like wikipedia for changes

2009-11-08 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi All,

Is there a way to be notified by email when someone changes something in an
area or a region?
In wikipedia, we can be notified when someone changes the pages we watch.

I have been working around the capital region in India and there are too few
active surveyors.
Recently there has been some traffic of hello world surveyors who are
probably experimenting and therefore sometimes spoiling some of the map.
Like now two local streets have their road name abbreviation in the ref
property.
Can I get notified when changes happen within a rectangle or something?

Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-in] using indic fonts with josm

2009-10-20 Per discussione vikas yadav

The fonts that show up as boxes is still not as bad. JOSM saves/uploads the
OSM file with proper unicode characters even when its rendering box letters.
Try opening the OSM file in an gedit/wordpad and it should appear proper
assuming ur sys has fonts installed.

Below is the suggestion I got from Gora on a similar query.

It is almost certainly an issue with the locales supported
 by Java. You will probably find that Hindi works. Which java
 are you using (try java -version)?

 For Sun java, a list of supported locales might be found at
 one of these places (for a different Sun Java version, try
 changing the version number in the URL):
 1.4.2: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/intl/locale.doc.html
 1.5.0: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/intl/locale.doc.html
 java6:
 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/intl/locale.doc.html

 Don't know Java well enough to tell if other locales can be
 added. Your other alternative is to use Potlatch.

 Regards,
 Gora





2009/10/20 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org

 Hi,

 I have indic fonts installed in my machine, but when I try to type them in
 josm, I just get little boxen - how does one install indic (or any font)
 font
 support in josm?
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Re: [Talk-in] why indian state names not shown?

2009-09-23 Per discussione vikas yadav

just saw indian state names on z5. looks great!
did someone work on it?

2009/8/20 ヴィカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Im wondering since long why no state names are shown on the z5-z8.
 Firstly I doubt if there are any POIs marked with state.
 Secondly, i also don't think t...@h or mapnik render state names.

 Is this a known condition?

 Also, how to place a newline in place=city?

 Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-07-27 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

I made this icon for JOSM.
My not an artist.
This is the top with walls on both sides.

2009/7/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com

 2009/7/27 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
  --- On Mon, 27/7/09, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote:
 
  Then file a trac ticket at http://josm.openstreetmap.de to get one
 added.
 
  Do we really need to file bugs on all types of stiles? or would it be
 better to list it as barrier=stile and subtype?

 well, maybe it's more efficient to attach a proposed icon ;-). I think
 we could/should have icons for all kind of barriers that are described
 on the wiki.

 Btw: what about swing gate (like a lift gate but swinging, blocks
 just cars, whilst pedestrians can cross), block, rope and chain.
 They are also common barriers, at least in my area. Would you just add
 them to the barrier page in the wiki or is there a lengthy proposal
 process needed?

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[OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-07-26 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi,

Is there a park barrier like this:
Like its made of metal, circular in shape, two perpendicular diagonals
separator, rotates and prevents any sort of vehicles including cycles to be
brought in.
Only one person can enter at a time.

I checked the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Barrier but could not
locate it.

Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-07-26 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Exactly this: Full-height turnstiles in the same wikipedia page.
Ones here are just a metre high without a roof.

Ill use barrier=stile for these gates.

Thanks a lot.
Vikas

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 --- On Sun, 26/7/09, ヴィカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com wrote:


  Is there a park barrier like this:
  Like its made of metal, circular in shape, two
  perpendicular diagonals separator, rotates and prevents any
  sort of vehicles including cycles to be brought in.
  Only one person can enter at a time.
 
 
  I checked the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Barrier
  but could not locate it.

 barrier=stile?


 The definition of that tag on the wiki is exactly what I imagined a stile
 to be, but that's not quite what he's describing. He's talking about a
 turnstile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnstile). I suppose
 barrier=stile could apply, but if that's the case the wiki should be updated
 to show that variant.

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Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-07-26 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Thanks. changed my gates to turnstile.
btw, JOSM does not recognize turnstile while it had an icon for stile.

2009/7/27 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk

 I think that you should use barrier=turnstile, otherwise data users will
 think they are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stile
 Shaun

 On 26 Jul 2009, at 17:34, Vikas Yadav wrote:

 Exactly this: Full-height turnstiles in the same wikipedia page.
 Ones here are just a metre high without a roof.

 Ill use barrier=stile for these gates.

 Thanks a lot.
 Vikas

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 --- On Sun, 26/7/09, ヴィカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com wrote:


  Is there a park barrier like this:
  Like its made of metal, circular in shape, two
  perpendicular diagonals separator, rotates and prevents any
  sort of vehicles including cycles to be brought in.
  Only one person can enter at a time.
 
 
  I checked the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Barrier
  but could not locate it.

 barrier=stile?


 The definition of that tag on the wiki is exactly what I imagined a
 stile to be, but that's not quite what he's describing. He's talking about
 a turnstile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnstile). I suppose
 barrier=stile could apply, but if that's the case the wiki should be updated
 to show that variant.

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Re: [OSM-talk] gosmore shows no map

2009-06-23 Per discussione vikas yadav

If its a ubuntu edition of gosmore, it never ran in my case.
I always get the source and compile it.

2009/6/24 Andi Völkl andi.voe...@web.de


 After starting gosmore, the gosmore.pak file is used, because I can search
 for places. But on the right site no map is shown.

 I am running Ubuntu 8.04 on AMD 64 Hardware. I tried with different osm
 files and different gosmore versions (self compiled and Ubuntu). I get no
 error messages.

 If I start strace gosmore I can see the following error message: read(5,
 0x62a044, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)

 Any ideas to get gosmore showing the map?

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Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language

2009-04-28 Per discussione vikas yadav

Hi,

I was experimenting on hindi names on north indian towns (specially from
Uttar Pradesh). Realized that t...@h can render better if client machine has
font installed while mapnik never renders correctly. That was about 3 month
ago and me not able to continue the experiment at the moment.

Regards,
Vikas

2009/4/25 Tanveer Singh tanveer1...@gmail.com

 Hi,
 I saw that in OSM the names of cities at lower zoom levels appear in
 some local language(I think its hindi). Only on zooming in english
 name is visible. Is there a way to turn of this stuff and see only
 English names. Infact non hindi areas also show up in hindi. Some
 language nazi at work here?
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Re: [OSM-talk] setting up a server for a country

2009-02-04 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Me starting on the same setup using t...@h.

Vikas

On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 14:29 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 Feb 2009 1:59:34 pm Pradeep B V wrote:
  Found this on the OSM wiki.
 
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Rails_Port
 
  This has some pointers on how to get started.
 
 I am looking at mapnik right now - since it is in python, I can handle it.
 


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Re: [OSM-talk] when do 12 TAH tiles render?

2009-01-31 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

What I mean is the tiles 6-11 for example (the non-default of TAH
client). Those don't get updated on Wednesday or even after 2 weeks of
monitoring.

On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 00:40 -0500, Russ Nelson wrote:
 I'm far from being expert, but it sure looks like when my t...@h instance
 downloads a tile at z12, it renders all resolutions at least down to
 17, then uploads them all at once.

 On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Vikas Yadav wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Just a casual query about what is the schedule to render TAH tiles
  below z12.
  I had changed many things in North India maps and those zoom levels
  still show tiles.
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk] bengali on my JOSM won't work

2009-01-31 Per discussione vikas yadav

Thanks Gora!

Potlatch could be a good alternative to certain POI/faster edits.

2009/1/31 Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net

 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:38:20 +0530
 Vikas Yadav vikas.ya...@threebrix.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I was trying to add name:bn: কলকাতা to KolKata/Calcutta but JOSM shows me
  boxes.
  I install all fonts and my gedit renders correctly and also the browser
 (the
  wikipedia page for kolkata where I took the translation from).
  Please help.
 [...]

 It is almost certainly an issue with the locales supported
 by Java. You will probably find that Hindi works. Which java
 are you using (try java -version)?

 For Sun java, a list of supported locales might be found at
 one of these places (for a different Sun Java version, try
 changing the version number in the URL):
 1.4.2: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/intl/locale.doc.html
 1.5.0: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/intl/locale.doc.html
 java6:
 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/intl/locale.doc.html

 Don't know Java well enough to tell if other locales can be
 added. Your other alternative is to use Potlatch.

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Re: [OSM-talk] bengali on my JOSM won't work

2009-01-31 Per discussione vikas yadav

No luck!

Even potlatch is showing boxes for bengali.
Its worse cause even Hindi is boxed.

Btw, when I do save the properties the with all those boxes, do box
characters go to OSM or the unicode characters of that I actually pasted?

2009/1/31 ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com

 Thanks Gora!

 Potlatch could be a good alternative to certain POI/faster edits.

 2009/1/31 Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net

 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:38:20 +0530
 Vikas Yadav vikas.ya...@threebrix.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I was trying to add name:bn: কলকাতা to KolKata/Calcutta but JOSM shows
 me
  boxes.
  I install all fonts and my gedit renders correctly and also the browser
 (the
  wikipedia page for kolkata where I took the translation from).
  Please help.
 [...]

 It is almost certainly an issue with the locales supported
 by Java. You will probably find that Hindi works. Which java
 are you using (try java -version)?

 For Sun java, a list of supported locales might be found at
 one of these places (for a different Sun Java version, try
 changing the version number in the URL):
 1.4.2: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/intl/locale.doc.html
 1.5.0: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/intl/locale.doc.html
 java6:
 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/intl/locale.doc.html

 Don't know Java well enough to tell if other locales can be
 added. Your other alternative is to use Potlatch.

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Re: [OSM-talk] when do 12 TAH tiles render?

2009-01-31 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 22:57 -0500, Matthias Julius wrote:
 Vikas Yadav vikas.ya...@threebrix.com writes:
 
  Just a casual query about what is the schedule to render TAH tiles below
  z12.
  I had changed many things in North India maps and those zoom levels still
  show tiles.
 
 They get stitched togetcher from z12 tiles after the rendering of a
 z12 tiles was requested, rendered and uploaded.
 
 If you render and upload tiles before they get auto-requested the
 server won't stitch lowzoom tiles.  The auto-requester only considers
 changes to nodes, BTW.

By you render i think tilesGen xy thing?
I had to do had a lot on my times cause I was experimenting putting
hindi names along with english. Most times TAH clients were no rendering
hindi correctly so I had to do a force render-upload skipping the queue.

Actually, just yesterday  tried I even gave xy and third optional z on
tilesGen and it did render 6-11 tiles and then uploaded them as well.
but, never saw any difference. no clue why.

Mapnik is not in my control and hindi font it is using is very wrong.
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[OSM-talk] when do 12 TAH tiles render?

2009-01-30 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Hi,

Just a casual query about what is the schedule to render TAH tiles below
z12.
I had changed many things in North India maps and those zoom levels still
show tiles.

Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Language rendering query

2009-01-22 Per discussione vikas yadav

Mapnik has updated north india tiles.
It sure has hindi font but rendered it all wrongly.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.61lon=78.72zoom=8layers=B000FTF

If its the DejaVu font, i think it worked flawlessly on my self-generated
TAH tiles.
Any suggestions?

2009/1/19 ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com

 We could give other devnagri/other language alternatives even on that css
 definition.

 To temporarily test/solve my language rendering problem, I have recently
 ran tilesGen xy with the tiles im interested in.
 So now, New Delhi and a lot of the Nation Capital Region has a nice (Hindi)
 names.
 Now I wonder, would mapnik be hindi-ready this Wednesday.

 2009/1/16 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk

 D Tucny wrote:

  The t...@h installation instructions tell you to install
  the DejaVu font, a free font, however, it's coverage,
 snip
  is missing some pretty large chunks that would likely
  take significantly more effort than has so far gone into
  the font to fill... as such, to render any of the missing
  languages (listed below) alternative fonts are needed...

 snip

 What I don't understand is even if you install alternative fonts, the
 osmarender stylesheets have entries such as this from caption-z11.xml:

/* Places - generic styles */
.caption-casing {
fill: white;
stroke: white;
font-family: DejaVu Sans;
font-weight: normal;
text-anchor: middle;
stroke-miterlimit: 1.5;
}

.caption-core {
stroke: white;
stroke-width: 0px;
font-family: DejaVu Sans;
font-weight: normal;
text-anchor: middle;
stroke-miterlimit: 1.5;
}

 How would it know to use a font other than DejaVu Sans even if they were
 installed? And in case it is relevant I'm using Windows?

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[OSM-talk] New Delhi on TAH

2009-01-14 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Hi,

I have noticed since a week that New Delhi (capital on India) does not
show up in low zooms (e.g. zoom:8) at all. only if zoom more does it
come. Im not sure how to fix it. Please suggest.

Thanks,
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[OSM-talk] Language rendering query

2009-01-14 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Hi,

I had two queries:
1) New Delhi text is not visible on low zooms (like 8) and is only seem even
after other smaller cities are shown. Please suggest how to fix it. (I had
put the same question on other thread a while back with no response. :(
2) Need to know how to show hindi translations on north indian cities when
they are rendered. I had put up a half dozen city name:hi just yesterday.
what else should be done so that mapnik/tah start rendering the translations
in the language? (Just like shown in Sri Lanka/China/etc)

Expective a response.
Thank you,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Language rendering query

2009-01-14 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 14:00 +0800, D Tucny wrote:
2009/1/15 Vikas Yadav vikas.ya...@threebrix.com
Hi,

I had two queries:
1) New Delhi text is not visible on low zooms (like 8) and is
only seem even after other smaller cities are shown. Please
suggest how to fix it. (I had put the same question on other
thread a while back with no response. :(

http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=19.268965272384115lon=77.80076850988954zoom=4layers=0F0B0F
It's showing up at zoom 4 there...

Mapnik is good but on TAH every other city is more important than the
capital of the country:
http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=28.352079252718625lon=77.80076850988954zoom=8layers=BF000F
(here you can see gurgaon is seen but the neighbour new delhi is not)

2) Need to know how to show hindi translations on north indian
cities when they are rendered. I had put up a half dozen city
name:hi just yesterday. what else should be done so that
mapnik/tah start rendering the translations in the language?
(Just like shown in Sri Lanka/China/etc)

While it's useful to have the hindi name in name:hi, it may also be
worthwhile putting it in name if the local language is officially
hindi... If name currently contains an English name, that can be moved
to name:en.
I just tried a few experiments like for Gurgaon i just added hindi
(english) style to see how would it render.
I will check and follow your suggestions about trac ticket next
thursday.

I'm not sure however that there are suitable fonts on the mapnik tile
server or ti...@home clients to correctly render hindi (the DejaVu
font does not have full UTF8 coverage), so making this change may
result in names not being visible on the map until this problem is
corrected... (Right now non-latin rendering on ti...@home is pretty
haphazard as some clients have suitable fonts for some languages and
others don't, Mapnik didn't used to support glyph fallback, so any
characters not present in DejaVu were rendered as squares, it now
supports glyph fallback however and the server seems to have a
reasonable range of fonts available which means that it's consistent
rendering of non-latin scripts has suddenly overtaken ti...@home in
this regard)... If you find that hindi does not render correctly on
the Mapnik layer, it would likely be useful to raise a trac ticket
with some suggestions of free/open fonts that could be installed on
the server to make this wor k...

Thanks!
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Re: [OSM-talk] Language rendering query

2009-01-14 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

yippeee! default name key seems working!
http://c.tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/12/2924/1709.png

On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 14:00 +0800, D Tucny wrote:
2009/1/15 Vikas Yadav vikas.ya...@threebrix.com
Hi,

http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=19.268965272384115lon=77.80076850988954zoom=4layers=0F0B0F
It's showing up at zoom 4 there...

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[OSM-talk] does road width, lane count matter?

2008-11-30 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Hi,

One more query I have.
On the roads that I survey, I have always found that my GPX goes away from
what the mapnik rendered.
I assume that mapnik is working on standard conventions of road width.
Here in New Delhi, we have lanes of width ~3m. Motorways have a fix 4 lanes
per direction.
Everything else (primary, secondary, territary and even trunk)  is just 2
lanes for one direction, a total width of 6 metres with some exceptions like
(they don't even paint marked lanes many times).

My question is should I supply lane count and width properties to roads and
will mapnik/[EMAIL PROTECTED] paint respecting those properties?

Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps - OSM comparison

2008-11-28 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

Hi all,

Im surveying Gurgaon and New Delhi. I'd like to add that Google Maps is
drawing based on satellite images of the roads. Here, we are having massive
road shiftings, fly over consturctions and new roads or deletions. The
latest google earth images are still more than a year old. While, in just 2
months, I have to resruvey the same road due to either a metro railway
diversion in place or a common wealth diversion. Google maps is certainly
stable, and for at least 95% of the city roads. While OSM is covering under
10% of the city but accuracy and POI levels are many times better than
Google Maps. I'd also like to share that we also have commercial
mapmyindia.com which has local india maps which is much better in coverage
and updations than google. yahoo maps is the worst in terms of coverage.

Regards,
Vikas

2008/11/28 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When I did this capital comparison I searched for

o A relation that contains all capitals (didn't find)
o Then I wanted to use osmxapi - but that was down
o Then I tried to search for microformats for geolocations in Wikipedia but
there are only a few cities with microformats
o namefinder in combination with a wiki page was by far the best solution (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_capitals)

I'm really happy with the result we have now.

o We realized that somebody has stolen London
o Many capitals are not in the map jet - people can improve osm
o For the namefinder sorting the result can be a challenge

I made a new page with

o not found capitals
o update button

http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/capitals/status.phphttp://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/%7Elbz/beispiele/ws2008/capitals/status.php

If there is a better solution to find capitals and WGS84 points let me
know.

Bernhard

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Re: [OSM-talk] YOURS is great! ...

2008-11-20 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

2008/11/20 Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thursday 20 November 2008 08:44:58 pm ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) wrote:
  I had been busy mapping my area neat the capital of india past 3 months.


 if by the 'capital of India' you mean Delhi, I, and other people, have been
 doing some stuff on that also - why dont you come to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and discuss further?


Yes, I handle South Delhi and mapped the entire Gurgaon from AND .
I just joined the list. Is it India specific list?



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Re: [OSM-talk] YOURS is great! ...

2008-11-20 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

2008/11/21 Nic Roets [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Vikas Yadav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I made my PAK on ubuntu. gosmore started but without any road lines. all
 it had was place names on left and text on the canvas. but no road lines or
 colours.


 Please note that the gosmore package found under ubuntu universe is
 severely out of date. The debian package is only slightly better. Fortunate
 building gosmore requires only a very basic tool chain.


I made gosmore on my ubuntu after co from the svn server. had my own small
OSM that I converted into PAK.



 If you typed something in the search box, like fuel, did the search
 results update ?
 If you click on any of those results, does the location string update ? It
 something like ?lat=20.123lon=40.432zoom=15.
 You say there are no roads. Do you see icons like traffic signals ?


I see all text matter on the canvas. no graphics (i.e. road, icons, signals,
turns, fuel signs,etc)





 In windows, the zip gosmore never read the PAK file or ever rebuild it. so
 moved my ubuntu PAK but still kept saying PAK not found, rebuild!


 The compiled Windows binary is only compatible with the gosmore.pak files
 on the same site. Unfortunately those files are updated only every Friday
 and includes only data up to Wednesday.


windows gosmore always keeps complaining to rebuild. and even when i do a
rebuild it still never picks the command line and continues to complain
about rebuild PAK file.
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Re: [Talk-in] [OSM-talk] YOURS is great! ...

2008-11-20 Per discussione Vikas Yadav

2008/11/20 Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thursday 20 November 2008 08:44:58 pm ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) wrote:
  I had been busy mapping my area neat the capital of india past 3 months.


 if by the 'capital of India' you mean Delhi, I, and other people, have been
 doing some stuff on that also - why dont you come to
 talk-in@openstreetmap.org and discuss further?


Yes, I handle South Delhi and mapped the entire Gurgaon from AND .
I just joined the list. Is it India specific list?



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