Re: [talk-ph] Mapping Party in Iloilo May 23, 2015
Could a plugin be easily developped? Or could a specific presets be used? Pierre De : Erwin Olario gov...@gmail.com À : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Dimanche 31 mai 2015 10h05 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Mapping Party in Iloilo May 23, 2015 Happy to hear you got a chance to use the freshly baked goods. :)) I hope you got a chance to promote the community-maintained version of OsmAnd[0] available via F-Droid[1]. The ten-map-downloads limitation could get annoying. :/ I agree with you about OsmAnd's having *too many* features - but I'm not complaining. The good news is that the new UI is way better than the old one, and more intuitive. Cheers, [0] https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.plus[1] https://f-droid.org/FDroid.apk Erwin Olario- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - » email: er...@ngnuity.net | gov...@gmail.com» mobile: (PHL): +63 908 817 2013» OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:41 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As mentioned in this thread, the mapping party was last Saturday in Iloilo co-organized by The Asia Foundation and several bike groups (IPAD Xtr, ICYC, iFOLD, Augustinian Cyclists) in the city. Originally, we designed to have an editing session using iD. But since most of them did not bring laptops, mostly on bikes (of course), we focused mapping using SmartPhones installed with OSMAnd. Thanks to Erwin for updating the adding a new section on the new version of OSMAnd in learnosm which I had to review early morning before the event. ;) The good thing with OSMAnd is that you have a lot of options for mapping, the bad thing with OSmAnd is that you have a lot of options for mapping. ;). Anyway, we focused on using OSM plugin to map bike related POIs. There were some crashes on one device and we were not successful getting the plugin to work on iPhones/iOS. All in all, I think OSMAnd is perfect for groups like this. Even if they don't use any of the editor, they can continue contributing by just uploading POIs. There were some issues along the way lsuch as some POIs in the middle of the sea and other with only name tags. We are fixing it now. My presentation notes/videos, mapper contributions and photos here: http://maning.github.io/taf_iloilo/ On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:31 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, [short notice but] The Asia Foundation is organizing a mapping party to biker groups in Iloilo City this Saturday May 23, 2015. If there are Iloilo based mapeers here and is interested to join, send me an email for details. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSMAnd now available (free) for iPhone
Hi Maning, I would like to provide this info on our wiki pages of Activations. Do you know if the same obf files provided for Android work for iPhones? regard Pierre De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com À : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 21 avril 2015 5h45 Objet : [talk-ph] OSMAnd now available (free) for iPhone FYI, https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id934850257 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] OSM Notes opened for the Yolanda / Haiyan Typhoon and not yet resolved
There is a discussion today on the general talk list about anonymous OSM notes. The Yolanda / Haiyan Activation is an example where such info could have helped if more infos provided and the possibility to interact with the person adding such note. To revise the OSM Notes and enhance the map, we can select this layer from openstreetmap.org Today, after more then a year, this info seems useless and I revises and resolves/closed some of these notes adding this comment: Incomplete infos from this note or comments not related to mapping objects . More then a year later, no more infos added. I am closing this note. I also see notes Created by ChrisEspectato with comments that seem to refer to an event or trip simply. #28 1-27-14 834am See http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/157873 regard Pierre ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM Notes opened for the Yolanda / Haiyan Typhoon and not yet resolved
Talking of archiving the Yolanda info, while working for the Hagupit typhoon, I made propositions on the HOT Discussion list but only few comments.See http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Damage-evaluation-tagging-schema-td5831094.html Plus still working on the Ebola activation and missed time assuring that this moves on. Pierre De : Daniel Joseph dan.b.jos...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : talk-ph@openstreetmap.org talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 26 février 2015 19h54 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] OSM Notes opened for the Yolanda / Haiyan Typhoon and not yet resolved I actually reached out to ChrisEspectato (via an OSM account message) on 21 February to ask about the purpose of the notes. If I haven't heard back after some time I was planning on going through and closing the notes. With the anonymous notes, reaching out isn't possible. I think it's good to close some of the notes in the manner you mention. There are certainly some notes leftover from Yolanda that could be resolved (because they are no longer relevant or do not contain enough detail). On a side note, there are also many tags related to the Yolanda response that could be 'archived' or removed. Unfortunately this sort of cleanup work tends to be a lot less interesting than adding new details and features to the map. All the best,Dan On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: There is a discussion today on the general talk list about anonymous OSM notes. The Yolanda / Haiyan Activation is an example where such info could have helped if more infos provided and the possibility to interact with the person adding such note. To revise the OSM Notes and enhance the map, we can select this layer from openstreetmap.org Today, after more then a year, this info seems useless and I revises and resolves/closed some of these notes adding this comment: Incomplete infos from this note or comments not related to mapping objects . More then a year later, no more infos added. I am closing this note. I also see notes Created by ChrisEspectato with comments that seem to refer to an event or trip simply. #28 1-27-14 834am See http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/157873 regard Pierre ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels
Hi Eugene the problem is that either bridge:name or bridge_name are osm standards. This is name that is recognized and rendered on the maps. Pierre De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com; OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 février 2015 7h55 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels Hi Pierre, On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Taginfo shows that tags such as bridge:name and bridge_name are used in other countries, but not in Philippines. bridge:name=* is definitely used in the Philippines. I and a couple or so other mappers have been using it. I have downloaded the latest OSM XML file from Geofabrik, did a grep, and came up with the following numbers: 12121 objects have a bridge=* tag 369 objects have a bridge:name=* tag 42 objects have a bridge_name=* tag See also: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge:name ~Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels
Eugene, I expect that only the major bridges have name. And we generally refer to these by their name and not the road reference. Unless you have particularities in Philippines.Example Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco bay.OpenStreetMap | Golden Gate Bridge (52477381) Pierre De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com À : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com Cc : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 12h35 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels Hi Ervin, Option 1 is what I do. Take note that if we have a way with highway=something and bridge=yes, then the object is primarily a highway/road and the bridge is only an aspect or property of the highway/road segment. Therefore, the name=* tag should be the name of the highway/road. And then put the name of the bridge on the bridge:name=* tag. Besides, it will be very weird to have a long highway with unconnected names just because there are bridges along the highway. The only time I would put the name of the bridge on the name=* tag is if the roads from both ends of the bridge have different names. For example, the bridge formerly called Del Pan in Manila: www.openstreetmap.org/way/4304674 ~Eugene On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Query regarding tagging bridges. What is the appropriate way of tagging bridges? Option1: Use the name of the road, and place the name of the bridge under bridge:name or the name of the tunnel under tunnel:name Option2: Use the name of the bridge/tunnel, omit the road name Thanks Ervin M. Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland.http://www.s1expeditions.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels
Hi Ronny, for the refs that are not implemented yet (ie no signs on the road), you could convert to ref:phThis way, it would keep the reference and it would be easy later to convert back. On the map, both the ref and the road name are showed. I am not sure that the name will be showed by the routing applications if you remove the ref. You will see the result if you look at areas where there is no ref. About the roundabout in the calculator, we see in this link that small segments with no names are reported as unamed. http://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_carroute=15.1653%2C120.6177%3B15.2239%2C120.5914#map=20/15.16086/120.60972layers=H You could try to discuss on the osm main list about this reporting how this new routing feature could be enhanced. Pierre De : Ronny Ager-Wick ro...@ager-wick.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr; Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Cc : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 22h01 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels Hi, Pierre, Thanks for the reply. It seems to me that when a road has a ref tag, the itinerary calculator generally ignores street names, including the one given to the Abacan Bridge. This may make sense in Europe and the US, but here it's actually quite confusing. The ref (R-9 fo MacArthur Highway) is generally not used outside of the mapping community, and hardly within I believe. If I ask 500 random people on the street in Angeles City where R-9 or R-8 is, I doubt a single one would know. Furthermore, I can't remember seeing a single sign along a road stating the ref. The ideal displayed name for this road would be MacArthur Highway - that's what everyone calls it. Same for R-9, which is known as NLEX, or simply the expressway. Is there a way to make that happen, but still not tag for display purposes? Could we simply remove the ref tag entirely, maybe renaming it to future_ref or something awaiting the local government actually putting up signs so that people are aware of it (likely to take decades)? If we're supposed to map reality, the ref tag, at least outside of Metro Manila, does not reflect it at the moment. Also, the itinerary calculator unfortunately doesn't seem to handle roundabouts very well. Or are they incorrectly tagged? If I was to give that itinerary description to someone, I am sure they would get lost, as I can hardly think of a more complicated way to describe an essentially straight piece of road. Knowing I might have been tagging incorrectly in this area myself, is there any way we could tag this differently to improve the routing? Ideally this stretch would be described as: Follow MacArthur Highway Turn slight right onto Abacan Bridge Turn slight left onto MacArthur Highway (or better, Take 3rd exit in the roundabout onto MacArthur Highway, but this may be hard if the routing software doesn't know it's a roundabout...) Reach destination. Ronny. On 2015-02-19 09:33, Pierre Béland wrote: Hi Ronny, I thought of using the new itinary calculation crossing the Abacan bridge. I can see from the map in this area that in Philippines, like elsewhere, ref tag is used for roads (here ref=R-9). See the link for the itinary http://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_carroute=15.1682%2C120.5893%3B15.1426%2C120.5962#map=15/15.1554/120.5929 With OSRM, it does show the ref-R-9 but do not report bridge crossing. With Mapquest, there is even less info. I wonder if OSMAnd on Android or any other road calculation software would report bridge crossing. Pierre De : Ronny Ager-Wick ro...@ager-wick.com À : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com; Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 20h18 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels This is a good point Eugene, and in fact the bridge names are very good landmarks, given that there are not many other signs on the roads in the Philippines, especially in rural areas. Another thing to take into consideration is that many bridges gain their name from the river they cross over, so there may be many bridges with the same name. They are definitely not tagged consistently at the moment, for example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15516/120.59219 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15840/120.60712 If I remember correctly, they are both named Abacan Bridge, but only one of them has that name on the map, and incidentally the one with a different road name on each side does not. Do you know if common routing software will pick up the bridge:name=* tag? Yes, I know we're not supposed to tag based on what current software will pick up, but it is interesting to know, given that bridges are such great landmarks. It would be great with a published suggested standard that fits the Philippine conditions. Ronny. On 2015-02-19 08:08
Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels
HI Ervin The best I thin, if there is a ref. no for the road, isname=name of the bridge ref=ref.no Pierre De : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com À : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 4h34 Objet : [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels Query regarding tagging bridges. What is the appropriate way of tagging bridges? Option1: Use the name of the road, and place the name of the bridge under bridge:name or the name of the tunnel under tunnel:name Option2: Use the name of the bridge/tunnel, omit the road name Thanks Ervin M. Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland.http://www.s1expeditions.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels
Hi Eugene I understand that in the context of Philippines islands, bridges are quite important. Your pictures clearly show that the sign at the beginning of the bridge refer to the bridge name and not the road name. We generally say that we tag first from the information observed in the field. But I understand that you might adopt different systems for Philippines. It is up to your community to decide. This Overpass query provides the way objects with a bridge tag. To have a smaller file, I did not request for the nodes.http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/7K1 The query gave me 4,091 bridges with the tag name and none with ref. While we see the road name associated with some bridge (for example Southern Tagalog), this is not the case for the majority of the bridges. And this would not respect what the sign show at the beginning of the bridge. Taginfo shows that tags such as bridge:name and bridge_name are used in other countries, but not in Philippines. Note also that the renderer show both name and ref. Pierre De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com; OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 19h08 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels Hi Pierre, Most bridges here in the Philippines have names no matter how small. You can usually spot their name on the guard rail or on a small sign just before the bridge. These names are almost always accompanied by the maximum load the bridge can handle (which is tagged using maxweight=*) and sometimes with the distance from the island's zero-kilometer marker (I have no idea how to tag these. Maybe distance=*?). Some examples: http://www.philippinesdailyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bukidnon-atugan-bridge.jpg http://www.zamboanga.com/z/images/0/09/Calapan_Bridge,_Calapan,_Kabasalan,_Zamboanga_Sibugay,_Philippines.JPG http://static.rappler.com/images/tullahan-bridge-screengrab-20130708.jpg Regards, Eugene On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Eugene, I expect that only the major bridges have name. And we generally refer to these by their name and not the road reference. Unless you have particularities in Philippines.Example Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco bay.OpenStreetMap | Golden Gate Bridge (52477381) Pierre De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com À : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com Cc : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 12h35 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels Hi Ervin, Option 1 is what I do. Take note that if we have a way with highway=something and bridge=yes, then the object is primarily a highway/road and the bridge is only an aspect or property of the highway/road segment. Therefore, the name=* tag should be the name of the highway/road. And then put the name of the bridge on the bridge:name=* tag. Besides, it will be very weird to have a long highway with unconnected names just because there are bridges along the highway. The only time I would put the name of the bridge on the name=* tag is if the roads from both ends of the bridge have different names. For example, the bridge formerly called Del Pan in Manila: www.openstreetmap.org/way/4304674 ~Eugene On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Query regarding tagging bridges. What is the appropriate way of tagging bridges? Option1: Use the name of the road, and place the name of the bridge under bridge:name or the name of the tunnel under tunnel:name Option2: Use the name of the bridge/tunnel, omit the road name Thanks Ervin M. Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland.http://www.s1expeditions.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels
Hi Ronny, I thought of using the new itinary calculation crossing the Abacan bridge. I can see from the map in this area that in Philippines, like elsewhere, ref tag is used for roads (here ref=R-9).See the link for the itinaryhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_carroute=15.1682%2C120.5893%3B15.1426%2C120.5962#map=15/15.1554/120.5929 With OSRM, it does show the ref-R-9 but do not report bridge crossing. With Mapquest, there is even less info. I wonder if OSMAnd on Android or any other road calculation software would report bridge crossing. Pierre De : Ronny Ager-Wick ro...@ager-wick.com À : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com; Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 20h18 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels This is a good point Eugene, and in fact the bridge names are very good landmarks, given that there are not many other signs on the roads in the Philippines, especially in rural areas. Another thing to take into consideration is that many bridges gain their name from the river they cross over, so there may be many bridges with the same name. They are definitely not tagged consistently at the moment, for example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15516/120.59219 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15840/120.60712 If I remember correctly, they are both named Abacan Bridge, but only one of them has that name on the map, and incidentally the one with a different road name on each side does not. Do you know if common routing software will pick up the bridge:name=* tag? Yes, I know we're not supposed to tag based on what current software will pick up, but it is interesting to know, given that bridges are such great landmarks. It would be great with a published suggested standard that fits the Philippine conditions. Ronny. On 2015-02-19 08:08, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Hi Pierre, Most bridges here in the Philippines have names no matter how small. You can usually spot their name on the guard rail or on a small sign just before the bridge. These names are almost always accompanied by the maximum load the bridge can handle (which is tagged using maxweight=*) and sometimes with the distance from the island's zero-kilometer marker (I have no idea how to tag these. Maybe distance=*?). Some examples: http://www.philippinesdailyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bukidnon-atugan-bridge.jpg http://www.zamboanga.com/z/images/0/09/Calapan_Bridge,_Calapan,_Kabasalan,_Zamboanga_Sibugay,_Philippines.JPG http://static.rappler.com/images/tullahan-bridge-screengrab-20130708.jpg Regards, Eugene On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Eugene, I expect that only the major bridges have name. And we generally refer to these by their name and not the road reference. Unless you have particularities in Philippines. Example Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco bay. OpenStreetMap | Golden Gate Bridge (52477381) Pierre De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com À : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com Cc : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 18 février 2015 12h35 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels Hi Ervin, Option 1 is what I do. Take note that if we have a way with highway=something and bridge=yes, then the object is primarily a highway/road and the bridge is only an aspect or property of the highway/road segment. Therefore, the name=* tag should be the name of the highway/road. And then put the name of the bridge on the bridge:name=* tag. Besides, it will be very weird to have a long highway with unconnected names just because there are bridges along the highway. The only time I would put the name of the bridge on the name=* tag is if the roads from both ends of the bridge have different names. For example, the bridge formerly called Del Pan in Manila: www.openstreetmap.org/way/4304674 ~Eugene On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Query regarding tagging bridges. What is the appropriate way of tagging bridges? Option1: Use the name of the road, and place the name of the bridge under bridge:name or the name of the tunnel under tunnel:name Option2: Use the name of the bridge/tunnel, omit the road name Thanks Ervin M. Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] re-tagging brownfield to residential made during Haiyan/Yolanda response
Hi Both, while coordinating for Hagupit, we discussed about what to do with all the Haiyan/Yolanda disaster tags. We wanted to keep these for later reference. We need to discuss about schema proposals but no agreement yet. See the thread on the HOT discussion.Humanitarian OpenStreetMap (HOT) - Damage evaluation tagging schema regard Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 12 février 2015 10h31 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] re-tagging brownfield to residential made during Haiyan/Yolanda response Hi Maning, what was the brownfield used to designate? Damage? Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on Open StreetMap On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, Currently on field in Samar and Leyte. Obviously, many of the typhoon damaged areas tagged as landuse=brownfield are now back to landuse=residential. I am changing the tags as I see them along our route. I think by default, this should be re-tagged to landuse=residential but, we are also seeing previously residential areas that were abandoned due to the risk. At one time, during the Ruby/Hagupit response, we discussed to re-tag brwonfields to residential. As I said above, there are exceptions. Should we do this? What's the best approach? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Hagupit / Ruby Activation
Great Ervin, We should also offer obf files for OSMAnd. I dont think that this has been discussed yet. http://osmd.ch/haiyan/ offered these files for Haiyan and Ebola. Is it possible for this Activation. Will try to find the contact if no response from this thread. Pierre De : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com À : Fran Boon francisb...@gmail.com Cc : OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; hot h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 5 décembre 2014 4h17 Objet : Re: [HOT] [talk-ph] Typhoon Hagupit / Ruby Activation Thank you, Fran. I have adapted the UNOCHA icon for evacuation centers. Evac centers are now rendered on the OSM-based GPS Nav map of the Philippines Name beside the structures used as evacuation centers have annexed (Evac Centers) beside the name plus the icon. Let me know if there are any issues. Map available at http://www.s1expeditions.com/p/openstreetmaps.html Sample image attached. Ervin M. Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland.http://www.s1expeditions.com On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Fran Boon francisb...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 December 2014 at 08:28, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Was searching for an international standard icon for evac centers. Do we have one? The OCHA icon is here: https://github.com/flavour/eden/blob/master/static/img/markers/OCHA/camp_temporary_camp_40px.png From: http://reliefweb.int/report/world/world-humanitarian-and-country-icons-2012 (The Noun Project seems to have stopped hosting the set) US std is here: https://github.com/flavour/eden/blob/master/static/img/markers/ersSymbolsV0202/Operations_S1/Emergency_Shelters_S1.png From: http://www.fgdc.gov/HSWG/ref_pages/Operations_ref.htm Australian here: https://github.com/flavour/eden/blob/master/static/img/markers/australasia/Operations/general_evacuation_centre_hd_established_30.png F ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Super Typhoon Hagupit (International Name Ruby)
If we can have a list of local contacts before the typhoon, this can eventually help to coordinate with local autorithies and humanitarian agencies, providing OSM map services. Pierre De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com À : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 4 décembre 2014 19h32 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Super Typhoon Hagupit (International Name Ruby) There is also a skype channel for the coordination. If anyone wants to join, let us know. More local people to provide local context, the better we understand the appropriate respose.Maning Sambale (mobile) On Dec 4, 2014 11:54 AM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All The basic HOT Wiki Page is up now, Feel Free to Add information as you have it http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Typhoon_Hagupit_(Ruby) Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence Hire Me on Freelancer See me on Open StreetMap See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange ===The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may containconfidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute,or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately anddelete the email and any attachments. === On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear OSM-PH mappers, Just a note that we are monitoring the situation as it happens. If there is a need to respond in the coming days we will inform the list. We also started talks with government contacts of our willingness to assist. For now keep safe and keep us posted on the local developments in your area. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Thanks great links. I think Maning and I are good candidates to lead this, he is in Manila, I am in Negros, down south. I agree and think it will swing towards the north. The track i sent is from a site called http://Typhoon2000.com, he has been tracking Philippine Typhooons for years and is located in Bicol. (So we may get first hand accounts) It is also worth watching with Wundergorund as the local knowledge on the tracks kicks in. I also agree that flooding will be the major issue the way it looks now. I will start a HOT Wiki Page today for this with the basics as well. It will be somewhere to put all the information in one place. Hi Pierre Yep, I think the imagery assessment on what is currently available is the first step. We can adjust as the track Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence Hire Me on Freelancer See me on Open StreetMap See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange ===The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may containconfidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute,or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately anddelete the email and any attachments. === On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the heads up Mark. It is definitely good to start watching these things as soon as possible and planning the response. Below is a link to Jeff Masters most recent blog post about the typhoon; Jeff is an expert on hurricanes/typhoons and his analysis pre-Haiyan was what allowed us to focus on Tacloban before the storm even hit. The second link is to the Wunderground tracking page for the storm itself showing lots of useful info, and the third link is to the 'Wundermap' with the tropical storm layer turned on. http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2871 http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/western-pacific/2014/Super-Typhoon-Hagupit http://wxug.us/1m0l5 According to his reading of the situation, as well as the results of the various model runs it is looking like it will be a catergory 4 or 5 when it hits the Philippines (Haiyan was a cat 5 at landfall). There are some positive signs though: wind shear is expected to pick up which will weaken the storm and the waters are not as warm as when Haiyan struck; both positive signs. For us I think the most relevant part of the blog is the following: There is less heat energy available in the ocean for Hagupit,
Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute
Hi Eugene, I looked at the first contributor in the list. It seems that this contributor decided to change POI from node to polygon. For every changeset, I see one node erased. You would have to look more in detail. I dont know the context.. But for buildings with many possible features, it is better to show each of these as a node. Pierre De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com À : OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 18 novembre 2014 17h49 Objet : [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute Hi, Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets that only say adding attribute? http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs. ~Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] (no subject)
Following the WHO appeal, I published a new HOT update. http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2014-08-08_who_declares_ebola_outbreak_an_international_public_health_emergency Haiti in 2010 revealed the capacity of the OpenStreetMap community to effectively support UN agencies and humanitarian NGOs, to quickly produce detailed maps and offer various services in support of the humanitarians. And as you saw for Philippines last year, we showed our capacity to escalate and respond rapidly to such a dramatic humanitarian crisis. The OSM 10th Anniversary coincides with the Ebola Activation to fight a deadly epidemic, but also other interventions especially in Gaza. We still need the help from the internet community to answer these humanitarian crisis. For the Ebola epidemy, we have already covered 24,000 square km (155 km x 155 km) in three countries. It is also an unprecedented effort with more than 4.5 million objects modified inthe OSM database so far. And over 700 contributors have already responded. With this international public health emergency, international humanitarian organizations call on the OpenStreetMap community to escalate again is response to support groups like MSF, the Red Cross and WHO. We invite you to use the task manager to coordinate with the other OpenStreetMapcontributors around the world. http://tasks.hotosm.org/ We need also more experienced contributors toimport place names from the GNS database. This information is also essential for teams traveling in the area. To participate, contact me by providing me with your username OpenStreetMap. We will create a special Tasking manager job for this work. Pierre ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Project NOAH encouraging mapping through OSM
I am happy to see that the awesome OpenstreetMap community is recognized by Noah. You should communicate on this on the HOT discussion list to give examples of usefulness of Activations like the Haiyan / Yolanda Activation. And let's hope they will also use the OSM basemap on the front page of their site. Is there any functional link to Websafe impact assessment tool ? regard Pierre De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com À : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 24 juin 2014 9h14 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Project NOAH encouraging mapping through OSM And here's a YouTube video from Project NOAH on why they want people, especially LGUs, to map buildings in OSM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywnUfY2uerY Very nice! :-) On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 5:50 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Just saw this blog article from Project NOAH http://blog.noah.dost.gov.ph/2014/06/24/how-to-map-using-open-street-map-osm/ Even before the Project NOAH website was launched years ago, I have been talking to Dr. Mahar Lagmay on possible collaborations. Slowly they are now adopting OSM as the resource for updated basemap to complement the hazard mapping they are doing. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] IEEE Conference in Montreal, ShareSlide available, HOT Response to Haiyan and Ebola outbreak
At the IEEE conference in Montreal, june 1. I presented the two recent Activations for the Haiyan Typhoon in Philippines and the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. Below is the link to the Shareslide of my presentation where someVideos are inserted. http://fr.slideshare.net/pierzen/open-streetmap-responsetohumanitariancrisishaiyanebolaieeemontreal20130601 I wanted to show the context of intervention when respond to such humanitarian crisis, how the OSM community progressed rapidly and offered innovative products. The contributions in collaboration with the Red Cross (Tacloban) and with CartONG / MSF and Red Cross (Ebola outbreak) were awesome. The various products and services provided to the humanitarians made the difference as expressed by the various media updates. A study has been presented recently by REACH about the Damage assessments made by the OSM community for the Haiyan Typhoon. Like all the other organizations that did these assessments, we used satellite imagery of 50 cm resolution of poor quality. In storm related events, this is a real problem. You can appreciate with the various comparisons of imagery presented. Progress has been made to assure usability of OSM data for the humanitarian organizations and Wireless applications offer a good potential to progress in this direction. As more projects are developped with the humanitarian community, we should progress with more usability of the OSM data in the future activations, and respond to the needs of these organizations in quite challenging operational contexts. Every new intervention is different and the international community has to improvize and respond rapidly. About lessons learned, let's hope that we will be able to find ways to even better integrate the remote participation of the OpenStreetMap community with the UN Agencies and International organizations in the future. regard Pierre ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Guagua mapping progress and tagging evacuation centers
Mark Effectively, we dont tag for the renderer and have to thinkabout the audiences (public and humanitarian organizations) and which tool / layer to give rapid access to this information in crisis context. Wireless solutions could be interesting. Then, is it possible to integrate this in existing OSM products such as OSMAnd, OSMTracker, etc ? Manning proposition about the various aspects provides significant information. I think that this is a good basis to start thinking about this. About the humanitarian Style, I am not sure that this is the place. There are many POI's and trying to add an evacuation center over this would add confusion. Also, I dont think that this would be the best option to locate rapidly the evacuation centers. If a Tsunami arize, we need this information to be available at this crucial moment. Thematic maps could be useful for both the public and the humanitarian organizations. But in case of emergencies, a wireless application that show you the way to the nearest evacuation center would be the best I think. It would be interesting to discuss all of this on the HOT IRC or a specific one for Philippines. We had such discussions for the Mali Activation in 2013. OCHA and the clusters participated to weekly discussions about various subjects like this. This is a good way to progress and motivate OSM contributors and humanitarian about working together. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; aldwin_mallari2000 aldwin_mallari2...@yahoo.com Envoyé le : Mercredi 4 juin 2014 8h20 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Guagua mapping progress and tagging evacuation centers Hi Maning, I guess the determining factor is who will be using the data. If it is responders in an emergency, all they really need is the location they can plug into a gps and maybe a people capacity so they know what they are dealing with If it is end users (public), the more detailed aspect becomes debatable. You do not want people going to the wrong evacuation center for the wrong emergency. That would be disastrous. I think the tagging is great, but maybe should only be rendered on maps specific to disaster relief efforts. As it is, it is unlikely to be rendered on the new OSM Carto, so including the information will do no harm, but could make it available to organizations who need it. Manin, I think your points * type of disaster * structural integrity * number of evacuees it can accommodate * length of time of the evacuees to stay depending on the resources available are crucial to responders and would be incredibly useful for responders in a disaster in the future. Pierre, could this be proposed and rendered under the HOT Carto scheme? Cheers Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on Open StreetMap See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:45 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mark, I guess the question is, are there different types of evacuation centers?? I am not sure. If a school is in a low zone is it appropriate for a Tsunami?? I guess GuaGua will not have any Tsunami Evacuation Centers, but will have earthquake, volcano, lahar flows, etc. Should they be tagged for the type of disaster they are intended for, or are they generic Good point. As what we always discuss to our DRR partners, not all evacuation centers are the same. For DRR managers, they need to be aware of the quality and capacity of evacuation centers categorized according to: * type of disaster * structural integrity * number of evacuees it can accommodate * length of time of the evacuees to stay depending on the resources available But for now, I am not sure if this should be included in OSM. Lastly, would it be appropriate to include contact details for the different services?? Hard to maintain unless the relief agencies do it them selves .. Unless it is an official contact number like Davao's 911 or Pasig's DRR Command Center, I don't think it should be in OSM. This is more appropriate for the LGU's DRRM Office to maintain as an internal db. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Wikimedia Germany awards HOT with Zedler-Award for Taifun Haiyan Project
After all the media publications, we now receive the Deutch Wikimedia Zedler-Award! Thanks to the OpenStreetMap contributors from 82 countries, the developpers and coordinators that made this possible. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Zedler-Preis#Der_Zedler-Preis_2014 If you want to retweet english https://twitter.com/pierzen/status/470562696614924288 french https://twitter.com/pierzen/status/470562201464737792 Pierre De : Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de À : h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Dimanche 25 mai 2014 7h17 Objet : [HOT] Wikimedia Germany awards HOT with Zedler-Award for Taifun Haiyan Project Source: https://twitter.com/WikimediaDE/status/470297786911834113 Winner of Category III: Best External Projekt of the Year is the Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team. The Zedler-Award acknowledges the work of individuals, groups or projects who have made contributions to free and open knowledge. The Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team was nominated for the mapping projekt after Taifun Haiyan. - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Zedler-Preis#Der_Zedler-Preis_2014 - http://wikimedia.de/wiki/Zedler-Preis - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Zedler-Preis ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] multiple multipolygons for Pampanga River
Ronny, It is not necessary fo merge the two relations, Each of these riverbank polygons must be a closed polygon. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Driverbank For the relation 2411084, you must replaced the Tag natural=water to waterway=riverbank. North of Obrero the riverbank must be retraced and the island must be traced independently from the riverbank. The island will be included in the relation with the role=inner. The island is in fact smaller and a smaller river on the right connect to the main river. see http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/15.544/121.0012 Pierre De : Ronny Ager-Wick ro...@ager-wick.com À : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 19 février 2014 1h53 Objet : [talk-ph] multiple multipolygons for Pampanga River I've been adding polygons for Pampanga River and some of its contributories, starting near Mt Arayat and working myself northward, joining up with the existing multipolygon - http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2411084. I then worked myself southwards until I found another multipolygon for Pampanga River - http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2913607 . Is there a way to merge these? Or doesn't it matter that the river is split into several multipolygons as long as they are joined by shared nodes? Ronny. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] multiple multipolygons for Pampanga River
Hi Ronny, The tagging list would be the best place to have information about the best tag to use. Not everyone agrees to follow such votes for tagging where only a few people participated. Pierre De : Ronny Ager-Wick ro...@ager-wick.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 19 février 2014 8h26 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] multiple multipolygons for Pampanga River Thanks for the clarification, Pierre. Actually, I tagged the relation both with natural=water, water=river and waterway=riverbank as advised in the wiki (see New Tagging) I assume this is the recommended way to do it? As for Obrero, I haven't been that far north yet :) I only traced it up to the point where someone else had traced it. I stopped around Sta Rosa: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/15.4214/120.9354 But, yes I agree, that needs to be retraced. It was probably traced from an old lower resolution satellite image like some of my own earlier work. Ronny. On 2014-02-19 21:01, Pierre Béland wrote: Ronny, It is not necessary fo merge the two relations, Each of these riverbank polygons must be a closed polygon. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Driverbank For the relation 2411084, you must replaced the Tag natural=water to waterway=riverbank. North of Obrero the riverbank must be retraced and the island must be traced independently from the riverbank. The island will be included in the relation with the role=inner. The island is in fact smaller and a smaller river on the right connect to the main river. see http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/15.544/121.0012 Pierre De : Ronny Ager-Wick ro...@ager-wick.com À : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 19 février 2014 1h53 Objet : [talk-ph] multiple multipolygons for Pampanga River I've been adding polygons for Pampanga River and some of its contributories, starting near Mt Arayat and working myself northward, joining up with the existing multipolygon - http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2411084. I then worked myself southwards until I found another multipolygon for Pampanga River - http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2913607 . Is there a way to merge these? Or doesn't it matter that the river is split into several multipolygons as long as they are joined by shared nodes? Ronny. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] OSMAND for Philippines
I verified with the OSMAND Google group. The limit of 10 is only when downloading directly through the OSMAND software. If you download manually as it is done for Philippines, you dont have this limit limit of 10 downloads. Pierre De : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr À : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc : nebulon42 nebulo...@yandex.com; h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 janvier 2014 9h35 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] OSMAND for Philippines Thanks to HTH for this response. I cc this answer to the talk-ph discussion list. Pierre De : nebulon42 nebulo...@yandex.com À : h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 janvier 2014 9h15 Objet : Re: [HOT] OSMAND for Philippines Regarding OsmAnd: The download limit is in the free version on Google Play to encourage users to upgrade to the paid version and so to support development. Since OsmAnd is open source a custom build would not have this limit. Such a custom build can be found at https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.plus Installing F-Droid itself could also be beneficial, from their site: F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device. If you use the F-Droid build of OsmAnd I suggest donating to the OsmAnd project to support development. (Please note that I'm neither involved in F-Droid nor in OsmAnd.) HTH, nebulon42 Am 29.01.14 14:45, schrieb Pierre Béland: For Disaster crisis like the Haiyan Typhoon, it is important to collect geolocated data about vital infrastructures and the OSM contributors cannot do this remotely. To do this, we have to find innovative ways to collect data adapted to humanitarians and various people that circulate in the area. On the Typhoon Haiyan Wiki page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan), we are promoting OSMAND. An Experimental hourly updated Philippines map for OsmAnd http://osmand.net/ is available here: http://osmd.ch/haiyan/. Many thanks to the developpers that contribute to offer such softwares and services in the context of these humanitarian actions. On the talk-ph list, a contributor mentions the limit of 10 downloads of maps. Is this limit in the Application itselft, and if so, could it be removed for downloads from http://osmd.ch/haiyan/ ? Regard Pierre - Mail from Talk-ph - *From :* samuel cruz docsamc...@yahoo.com *To:* talk-ph@openstreetmap.org talk-ph@openstreetmap.org *Sent :* 29 janv 2014 4h56 *Objet :* Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 66, Issue 18 OsmAnd can only be downloaded using you android phone. there's non for ios. for the free version, you can download only 10 times whether maps or add ons like tts but this is what i noticed. i downloaded the application and installed it. i copoied the downloaded map to my ext sdcard coz i needed to reformat my cell phone. after reformatting my cellphone, i reinstall OsmAnd and allow me to download 10 time like its my first time to dl from what they allowed, on top of what i have dl before ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops
We are looking to do such training with humanitarians in various areas. Andrew started a project with MSF in Democratic Republic of Congo where we will train field teams. Let's keep coordinated and assure we develop tools that can be reused elsewhere. I suggest that we organize a meeting through Mumble with people interested by this subject to discuss and find ways to go on with these various trainings, adapted content to prepare, ways to train, including at distance. Pierre De : Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com À : Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 30 janvier 2014 5h38 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops Hi All, I just wanted to mention if you see ways that HOT can help please let us know. I think all of the ideas suggested so far have possibilities. How would you all from the OSM-ph community feel about HOT hosting some trainings? We typically haven't done much on the ground work in the Philippines because the community is so strong. Currently we don't have any firm plans to do such things (we would need funding to assist us in travel and other costs), but it is a possibility. We of course would inquire here first if any such thing happened. Thanks, -Kate On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 29 January, 2014 06:40 PM: Might it be more prudent if we can consolidate several of the requests into 1, preferably in Manila? Outside of Manila, there is no group of mappers who are also interested in spreading the word or giving lectures, workshops, and tutorials. Just thinking out loud here ... would it be possible to do tutorials or demos online, using web conferencing software? Then the geographical location becomes irrelevant. It defintely works for Slideshows and QA - I've done a few of them on Online Security topics. Here are a couple http://www.anymeeting.com/ (ad supported) https://www.meetingburner.com/ (ten participants free) ... and there are more around. Maybe OSM has an account with one of the paid ones, which we could borrow for an hour? Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 5125 3392 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops
Hi Robert, I agree that it is better to do in person training for non-typical OSM users. But we can think of some at distance training support for the trainers if necessary. Andrew Buck, Will Skora and I have experienced last year supporting various local chapters in African countries. Andrew and I are pursuing in this direction discussing presently with humanitarians in Congo that also want to do some field data collection. I dont know how others see this, but we could first try to build a common repository for material specific to data collection that would complete LearnOsm. The tradittional approach is to use GPS + Field Paper + Questionnaires. But new tools based on smarphones and tablets are emerging to complete the data collection workflow. If some training material is developped for this, and data collection experienced made, we should share these infos among the various groups. Pierre De : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr; Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; HOT Discussion list h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 30 janvier 2014 17h29 Objet : RE: [HOT] [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops The Red Cross may also be interested in some trainings in the Philippines. We’re pulling together our strategic plan for recovery right now and OSM trainings for Philippines Red Cross chapters are on there. I think in person trainings are better for non-typical OSM users (i.e. non-nerds). I would be nervous about solely remote means of training. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From:Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:23 AM To: Kate Chapman Cc: osm-ph; HOT Discussion list Subject: Re: [HOT] [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops We are looking to do such training with humanitarians in various areas. Andrew started a project with MSF in Democratic Republic of Congo where we will train field teams. Let's keep coordinated and assure we develop tools that can be reused elsewhere. I suggest that we organize a meeting through Mumble with people interested by this subject to discuss and find ways to go on with these various trainings, adapted content to prepare, ways to train, including at distance. Pierre De :Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com À : Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 30 janvier 2014 5h38 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops Hi All, I just wanted to mention if you see ways that HOT can help please let us know. I think all of the ideas suggested so far have possibilities. How would you all from the OSM-ph community feel about HOT hosting some trainings? We typically haven't done much on the ground work in the Philippines because the community is so strong. Currently we don't have any firm plans to do such things (we would need funding to assist us in travel and other costs), but it is a possibility. We of course would inquire here first if any such thing happened. Thanks, -Kate On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 29 January, 2014 06:40 PM: Might it be more prudent if we can consolidate several of the requests into 1, preferably in Manila? Outside of Manila, there is no group of mappers who are also interested in spreading the word or giving lectures, workshops, and tutorials. Just thinking out loud here ... would it be possible to do tutorials or demos online, using web conferencing software? Then the geographical location becomes irrelevant. It defintely works for Slideshows and QA - I've done a few of them on Online Security topics. Here are a couple http://www.anymeeting.com/ (ad supported) https://www.meetingburner.com/ (ten participants free) ... and there are more around. Maybe OSM has an account with one of the paid ones, which we could borrow for an hour? Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 5125 3392 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] OSMAND for Philippines
Thanks to HTH for this response. I cc this answer to the talk-ph discussion list. Pierre De : nebulon42 nebulo...@yandex.com À : h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 janvier 2014 9h15 Objet : Re: [HOT] OSMAND for Philippines Regarding OsmAnd: The download limit is in the free version on Google Play to encourage users to upgrade to the paid version and so to support development. Since OsmAnd is open source a custom build would not have this limit. Such a custom build can be found at https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.plus Installing F-Droid itself could also be beneficial, from their site: F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device. If you use the F-Droid build of OsmAnd I suggest donating to the OsmAnd project to support development. (Please note that I'm neither involved in F-Droid nor in OsmAnd.) HTH, nebulon42 Am 29.01.14 14:45, schrieb Pierre Béland: For Disaster crisis like the Haiyan Typhoon, it is important to collect geolocated data about vital infrastructures and the OSM contributors cannot do this remotely. To do this, we have to find innovative ways to collect data adapted to humanitarians and various people that circulate in the area. On the Typhoon Haiyan Wiki page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan), we are promoting OSMAND. An Experimental hourly updated Philippines map for OsmAnd http://osmand.net/ is available here: http://osmd.ch/haiyan/. Many thanks to the developpers that contribute to offer such softwares and services in the context of these humanitarian actions. On the talk-ph list, a contributor mentions the limit of 10 downloads of maps. Is this limit in the Application itselft, and if so, could it be removed for downloads from http://osmd.ch/haiyan/ ? Regard Pierre - Mail from Talk-ph - *From :* samuel cruz docsamc...@yahoo.com *To:* talk-ph@openstreetmap.org talk-ph@openstreetmap.org *Sent :* 29 janv 2014 4h56 *Objet :* Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 66, Issue 18 OsmAnd can only be downloaded using you android phone. there's non for ios. for the free version, you can download only 10 times whether maps or add ons like tts but this is what i noticed. i downloaded the application and installed it. i copoied the downloaded map to my ext sdcard coz i needed to reformat my cell phone. after reformatting my cellphone, i reinstall OsmAnd and allow me to download 10 time like its my first time to dl from what they allowed, on top of what i have dl before ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Geodetic Engineering NSTP-CWTS class maps Mayon Volcano towns
Hi Maning, Nice to see such projects. The HOT Tasking Manager could be of great help to facilitate the coordination of efforts. This way, it would assure a better coverage of all areas to map and avoid conflicts reported by the OSM editor while many mappers in the same area. Maning or other contributors should be able to help on this. Pierre De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com À : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; Julius Bañgate jules.bang...@gmail.com Envoyé le : Mardi 14 janvier 2014 18h50 Objet : [talk-ph] Geodetic Engineering NSTP-CWTS class maps Mayon Volcano towns Julius Bañgate a professor from the UP Diliman College of Engineering Geodetic Engineering Department lead a massive Mayon Volcano mapping project through his NSTP-CWTS class. http://mayon360mapathon.weebly.com/ Impressive effort by Jules and his students! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fixing roads routing for Yolanda mapping
Hi Maning, Omose is available for Philippines. This tool can complete validation with other analysis. Bad link Highway - Highway too long for a linkhttp://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/?zoom=12lat=11.02464lon=124.51527layers=B00FFTitem=1110level=1,2,3 - Bad link highway (secondary vs tertiary here) http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/?zoom=14lat=9.9056lon=124.09182layers=B00FFTitem=1110level=1,2,3 Broken Highway continuity http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/?zoom=16lat=10.37713lon=123.63692layers=B00FFTitem=1120level=1,2,3 Tag highway missing = with tag oneway=yes http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/?zoom=10lat=11.03842lon=124.77241layers=B00FFTitem=2080level=1,2,3 cheers Pierre De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com À : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 10 janvier 2014 5h28 Objet : [talk-ph] Fixing roads routing for Yolanda mapping Dear everyone, Now, that Yolanda remote mapping has settled in a bit. I encourage everyone to help in improving the remotely mapped contributions. Let's start by fixing road routing. Here's the common errors from OSM Inspector: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routinglon=124.05314lat=10.61929zoom=8 You can use this tool to check areas that needs corrections -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing
Hi Mark JOSM is very powerful with various plugins, features. The Mappaint functionality gives the opportunity to use a mapcss stylesheet to color various objects. Hjart contributor provides a Damaged buildings Mapcss Style that is specific for editing for the typhoon. This is very useful when reviewing the building status. Every time a buildings is tagged with typhoon:reviewed=yes, it will be colored in green. This make it a lot easier to review all the buildings in a task, since all the buildings reviewed will be colored differently. To use this style, you need to select it in the Prerences. To do so: Select the Modify link in the Top menu, and then Preferences. In the list of button on the left panel, Select the third button (ie. Grid over WorldMap). Select the Mappaint Tab. In the list of Styles available, Select Collapsed / Damaged buildings and click validate to terminate. In the Editor window, among the right panels, you should see the Mappaint Tab where Collapsed / Damaged buildings Mappaint Style will be active. If you dont see the Mappaint Tab, you will have to select it from the list of available features in the left panel. From there you should find edting easier. For every building where you add typhoon:reviewed=yes, you should see it colored in green. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 décembre 2013 23h23 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing Hi Maning, I have one more dumb question (yes, I know, I need to attend a workshop :) ) Is there a way to visually show which polys (ie houses) have been edited? (To keep track of whathas been done) Thanks mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Maning, JOSM is a lot more productive for this work than ID. Cheers Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mark, In JOSM, you need to activate the remotecontrol plugin. If you are able to load the data via Tasking Manager's task tab by clicking the JOSM button, then remotecontrol is activated. Then in the task's workflow tab, just click the imagery URL and the imagery layer should appear in JOSM. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, Ive been using ID to try and assist, but I have decided I need to learn JOSM, I have been trying to get the tms layer to display in JOSM, but am only able to do so without the leading tms[50]: in the TMS url field Could someone take a minute to explain what this means as it is obviously needed but I cannot get it to work. I do not want to be tagging something incorrectly. Thanks Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments.
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] SotM-PH This Weekend
Thanks Maning could you give us instructions to connect ? Pierre De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com À : Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com Cc : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; hot h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 14 décembre 2013 18h08 Objet : Re: [HOT] [talk-ph] SotM-PH This Weekend Dear all, We can be on Skype during the workshop. Time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20131215T10p1=145ah=2 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi, Will there be a way to connect live to this workshop ? Mumble ? Skype ? Thanks, Jean-Guilhem Le 13/12/2013 06:50, Kate Chapman a écrit : Hi All, SotM-PH is this weekend(1) and on Sunday we are having a two hour workshop to discuss next steps regarding response and recovery for Yolanda. It would be great for the local and the international community to be able to connect. The workshop is from 10am-noon Manila time which is 2am-4am GMT unfortunately there isn't a good time for North American/Asia and Europe which is daytime for Asia, but if people can join us that will be great. I've created a hackpad where we can record what is discussed and those who can join in real-time can add some feedback ahead of time. Thanks, -Kate (1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Events/sotm-ph-2013 (2) https://hackpad.com/Next-Steps-for-Yolanda-HOTOSM-ph-lVnS3GQ5Fa9 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Panay Mapping
Hi Mark, I will go through this area in JOSM and assure that all road are traced. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 9h29 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping This task would be very close to the actual area required! (My first look at the Tasking Manager) http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002#task/860/544/10 Thanks Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, sorry, the bounding boxs would be as follows: Primary Area: TL: 121.25E 11.50N BR: 122.75E 11.166N Extending south to a Secondary Area TL: 121.25E 11.166N BR: 122.75E 11.00N Regards Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - I think this job (which covers a wide area) includes the areas you're asking about? (Not 100% clear to me from your email.) http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002 So maybe people can help that way. Note that this job is on the beta server tasks2. Dan 2013/12/13 Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com Hi All The P.R.A.Y. team did an aerial recon of some of the affected areas with a chopper yesterday. It looks like we may have to use road to deliver a lot of the aid. Many areas look quite affected and the military has intel that backs that up. I have used todays dump from http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiyan/ to overlay OSM data over a topo map along with our target areas. (Yaaa QGis) (Sorry about the terrible styling, but it will serve the need) (Note, we may move further south to the Passi area if we can establisg a need there) I have been trying to download sat images from https://hdds.usgs.gov/hdds2/ to see if there are roads in the area (I overlaid the ones I could get) but I am on Smart Bro and they throttle my bandwidth. I uploaded the my efforts to http://markware.net/pray/ (They are at the bottom of the page) Is there any way of getting these areas mapped, priority would be access roads and locations of villages and any damage noted if it was possible. ( I see that some of the LandUse Polys are tagged as Typhoon Damage) Any advice or help greatly appreciated. My hands are tied with this limited bandwidth. I ordered a PLDT DSL Line 6 weeks ago, I am looking at the modem but we cannot get them to activate it. It is a mystery to me as to why .. Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Panay Mapping
Mark, West of Limbag (node 2527733423), Bing High Res imagery. It should be covered better. East of Limbag, I will have to work with Landsat8 which is relatively covered with clouds. Unless somebody knows other imagery for this area. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 9h36 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping Thanks Pierre. Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Mark, I will go through this area in JOSM and assure that all road are traced. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 9h29 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping This task would be very close to the actual area required! (My first look at the Tasking Manager) http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002#task/860/544/10 Thanks Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, sorry, the bounding boxs would be as follows: Primary Area: TL: 121.25E 11.50N BR: 122.75E 11.166N Extending south to a Secondary Area TL: 121.25E 11.166N BR: 122.75E 11.00N Regards Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - I think this job (which covers a wide area) includes the areas you're asking about? (Not 100% clear to me from your email.) http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002 So maybe people can help that way. Note that this job is on the beta server tasks2. Dan 2013/12/13 Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com Hi All The P.R.A.Y. team did an aerial recon of some of the affected areas with a chopper yesterday. It looks like we may have to use road to deliver a lot of the aid. Many areas look quite affected and the military has intel that backs that up. I have used todays dump from http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiyan/ to overlay OSM data over a topo map along with our target areas. (Yaaa QGis) (Sorry about the terrible styling, but it will serve the need) (Note, we may move further south to the Passi area if we can establisg a need there) I have been trying to download sat images from https://hdds.usgs.gov/hdds2/ to see if there are roads in the area (I overlaid the ones I could get) but I am on Smart Bro and they throttle my bandwidth. I uploaded the my efforts to http://markware.net/pray/ (They are at the bottom of the page) Is there any way of getting these areas mapped, priority would be access roads
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Panay Mapping
Yes Mark this will help move rapidly and assure that we find roads to connect to these areas. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 9h50 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping Pierre If it helps, here is a gpx file with the points we are considering for the next missions. They were taken off topo paper maps, so the accuracy is not great. They should all be identifyable hamlets, villages, etc, it would be great if we could get a more precise location. Thanks mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Pierre. Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Mark, I will go through this area in JOSM and assure that all road are traced. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 9h29 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping This task would be very close to the actual area required! (My first look at the Tasking Manager) http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002#task/860/544/10 Thanks Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, sorry, the bounding boxs would be as follows: Primary Area: TL: 121.25E 11.50N BR: 122.75E 11.166N Extending south to a Secondary Area TL: 121.25E 11.166N BR: 122.75E 11.00N Regards Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - I think this job (which covers a wide area) includes the areas you're asking about? (Not 100% clear to me from your email.) http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002 So maybe people can help that way. Note that this job is on the beta server tasks2. Dan 2013/12/13 Mark Cupitt
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Panay Mapping
Mark I've been told that site went down yesterday and that files will be migrated to an other site. Jean-Guilhem as copied many of the files. I am asking him to look if he has imagery for this area. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 10h15 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping Hi Pierre I was trying to down load the imagery from https://hdds.usgs.gov/hdds2/ here was some imagery (look at the pics i posted at http://markware.net/pray at the bottom of the page) thats all I could get downloaded. I believe there was more, but my internet is throttled now because of overuse. Maybe you could get it downloaded and it may be of use. Cheers Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Mark, West of Limbag (node 2527733423), Bing High Res imagery. It should be covered better. East of Limbag, I will have to work with Landsat8 which is relatively covered with clouds. Unless somebody knows other imagery for this area. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 9h36 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping Thanks Pierre. Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Mark, I will go through this area in JOSM and assure that all road are traced. Pierre De : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com À : Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 9h29 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping This task would be very close to the actual area required! (My first look at the Tasking Manager) http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002#task/860/544/10 Thanks Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, sorry, the bounding boxs would be as follows: Primary Area: TL: 121.25E 11.50N BR: 122.75E 11.166N Extending south to a Secondary Area TL: 121.25E 11.166N BR: 122.75E 11.00N Regards Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn See me on StackExchange === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom
[talk-ph] Follow-up on Activation for Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
Up to date, 1,641 voluntary contributors from 82 countries have made more than 4,550,900 OSM Map changes for the Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan Activation ! And this activation is still going on as the humanitarians are starting to deploy on the ground, that some remote islands did not yet receive help. This is a complex Activation with the extent of the damages and the numerous remote islands. Imagery, both pre and post disaster, is a key factor of the success of this Activation. Lost of communications with remote islands dispersed in a large area is quite a challenge. There were still reports this week of areas where people did not receive any help yet. The HOT / Philippines coordination Team and the various humanitarian partners whith which we collaborate are still looking at identifying the remote islands and assure that imagery is available and that these areas have been mapped. Thanks to the HIU unit of the US State Dept. who facilitates our access to these imageries and negociate with the imagery providers to assure that we will have a constant access to the imagery. They are looking presently at the possibility to extend the imagery license for an other 30 days. They have also made a tremendous effort to identify the available imagery, pre and post-disaster for the various zones were we need imagery. The OSM community has showed his capacity in this Activation to react quickly, to coordinate remote mappers from 82 countries and provide maps, including both pre and post-disaster elements. Ten days after the Typhoon, printed maps were delivered to the field teams arriving in Tacloban. This while coordinating with the US Red Cross, OCHA, GFDRR Labs at World Bank,and various other partners. After this activation is completed, we should look for the future of such Activations, where we support various humanitarian reliefs actions. We should find ways to facilitate access to the imagery (both pre and post disaster) and lookd at the eventual Images licensing problems. Others aspects will surely be examined to. But globally, the OSM community and the various groups we coordinated with should be proud of what has been accomplished. While various teams start to deploy for field studies, there will be a two hour workshop sunday at the SotM-PH in Manilla where Maning Sambale and Kate Chapman will be present. The objective of the workshop is to discuss the next steps regarding response and recovery for the Yolanda / Haiyan Typhoon. It would be great for the local and the international community to be able to connect. The workshop is from 10am-noon Manila time which is 2am-4am GMT unfortunately there isn't a good time for North American/Asia and Europe which is daytime for Asia, but if people can join us that will be great. We will come back to you later to indicate how to participate to the workshop and we should try to have a log of these discussions. See the time schedule at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20131215T10p1=145ah=2 There is already more then 25 Task Manager jobs that have been prepared for this activation. Others tasks will be added as requests are adressed to us. To contribute you can look at the two servers where jobs are available : http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured/haiyan http://tasks2.hotosm.org/#featured/haiyan Thanks for your contribution. Pierre Activation Team Andrew Buck Maning Sambale Pierre Béland Discussions, Support on irc://irc.oftc.net #hot___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tombs as buildings?
I also see overlaps of many buildings. This contributor maps since dec.2 only and had many changesets today. It would be good that somebody contact him and offer some support. Pierre De : Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com À : talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 12 décembre 2013 10h20 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tombs as buildings? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I noticed a couple of these as well, although nothing quite so extensive. My suggestion would be to not delete them but to tag them as something more appropriate. Something like building=mausoleum might be appropriate but maybe something that is not a building=* tag would be better to prevent problems with people trying to count buildings in an area to get population estimates. Most people just do building=* in their analysis which works pretty well, but things like this could throw that calculation off. If some Philippines residents could have a look at these areas and confirm that these really are mausoleums and then look into how best to tag them that would be cool. I am a bit hesitant to do it myself as I am less familiar with this stuff than the locals would be; we bury people underground here almost exclusively, so our cemeteries are very different from the ones in the Philippines. - -AndrewBuck On 12/12/2013 09:04 AM, Ervin Malicdem wrote: Due to the HOT task activation to map buildings on some areas of the Philippines, I am seeing tombs tagged as building=yes. I don't find it necessary to do so except if the object is a mausoleum. What do you guys think? Example, is changeset 19340478 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19340478 Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSqdRGAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbVbMQAJYqNsXPa1+xSjvq6Gk4rTKd /HVDmLXpnTAb04/KAaNiggQfBbuKGofj3IoKuoLaRNh4yLEsdC50tK2QcnLLcRfh MmiagpqLiEwk0aDGyaGJkJwMAwLbDUNfmEQohjMUFByP1XLWxmm+B+MPosoyethP xZt7GJ3sgWgeyZa4+0FjROsCiU/gxbUcGvfwBaNCgcrgsAxoZdAOL5RypBH82a2D cbk1sZ2b2IOC6bvgaeZPsClWZp/KitZxncPHljTDfgV4Qq1D6ADDn9tAM/ZJGQCM os4qYVYNcKbSuiltxyUN1IJO4DDr490PGS+O5gJLfY5Zxod3GvgDIr88yUgOTXdn CuRmRrmUAmTUWGKs4JJONQyJa2ZHgOztOK5MJMbOGe26I3bfjBuari/vkbUnrdIP cvBybWhPysRDVlb2GDWWKBnp/SqU2F2izgWwgxUmYbpYwsJRhtDjPPuiGExbOBz+ /jfoa8aBNlRdw7r1ipQpqJRqAYYGLTXolFqYsoh4d4kDyohIi9UQdOIbk0sVDdJY b2/ScFh4WsyewpYyyhJrHWLXiGliLb1XDMQLfPk3jGcd4wSRE+4pVim6u4pNnn8q SNVV8VwVFDyXwheOSxKDelurlR0KD9YZcZeVcHREuuDugeCuPwCnTSRIR5JMh4Jg VfMhor+hsHcfvrbxs8wg =G1di -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tombs as buildings?
thanks ervin. Pierre De : Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com; talk-ph@openstreetmap.org talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 12 décembre 2013 11h41 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tombs as buildings? Just gave the contributor a heads up. Ervin M. Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: I also see overlaps of many buildings. This contributor maps since dec.2 only and had many changesets today. It would be good that somebody contact him and offer some support. Pierre De : Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com À : talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 12 décembre 2013 10h20 Objet : Re: [talk-ph] Tombs as buildings? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I noticed a couple of these as well, although nothing quite so extensive. My suggestion would be to not delete them but to tag them as something more appropriate. Something like building=mausoleum might be appropriate but maybe something that is not a building=* tag would be better to prevent problems with people trying to count buildings in an area to get population estimates. Most people just do building=* in their analysis which works pretty well, but things like this could throw that calculation off. If some Philippines residents could have a look at these areas and confirm that these really are mausoleums and then look into how best to tag them that would be cool. I am a bit hesitant to do it myself as I am less familiar with this stuff than the locals would be; we bury people underground here almost exclusively, so our cemeteries are very different from the ones in the Philippines. - -AndrewBuck On 12/12/2013 09:04 AM, Ervin Malicdem wrote: Due to the HOT task activation to map buildings on some areas of the Philippines, I am seeing tombs tagged as building=yes. I don't find it necessary to do so except if the object is a mausoleum. What do you guys think? Example, is changeset 19340478 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19340478 Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSqdRGAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbVbMQAJYqNsXPa1+xSjvq6Gk4rTKd /HVDmLXpnTAb04/KAaNiggQfBbuKGofj3IoKuoLaRNh4yLEsdC50tK2QcnLLcRfh MmiagpqLiEwk0aDGyaGJkJwMAwLbDUNfmEQohjMUFByP1XLWxmm+B+MPosoyethP xZt7GJ3sgWgeyZa4+0FjROsCiU/gxbUcGvfwBaNCgcrgsAxoZdAOL5RypBH82a2D cbk1sZ2b2IOC6bvgaeZPsClWZp/KitZxncPHljTDfgV4Qq1D6ADDn9tAM/ZJGQCM os4qYVYNcKbSuiltxyUN1IJO4DDr490PGS+O5gJLfY5Zxod3GvgDIr88yUgOTXdn CuRmRrmUAmTUWGKs4JJONQyJa2ZHgOztOK5MJMbOGe26I3bfjBuari/vkbUnrdIP cvBybWhPysRDVlb2GDWWKBnp/SqU2F2izgWwgxUmYbpYwsJRhtDjPPuiGExbOBz+ /jfoa8aBNlRdw7r1ipQpqJRqAYYGLTXolFqYsoh4d4kDyohIi9UQdOIbk0sVDdJY b2/ScFh4WsyewpYyyhJrHWLXiGliLb1XDMQLfPk3jGcd4wSRE+4pVim6u4pNnn8q SNVV8VwVFDyXwheOSxKDelurlR0KD9YZcZeVcHREuuDugeCuPwCnTSRIR5JMh4Jg VfMhor+hsHcfvrbxs8wg =G1di -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
