Re: [Talk-us] PA State Parks

2010-03-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell

On 24 Mar 2010, at 18:47 , Tyler Ritchie wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Sven Lafebre  wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been looking at state parks, state forests and state game lands
> in Pennsylvania. I think Adam Killian uploaded most of these a year or
> two ago—I don't know if he's on this mailing list.
> 
> Most of these parks are tagged as physical areas. For example, state
> game lands are natural=wood and leisure=nature_reserve. Unfortunately,
> these tags don't always correspond to the actual land use. Moreover,
> they are really administrative entities, not physical ones. So I would
> like to change them to something similar to the scheme used for parks
> e.g. in the Bay Area:
> 
> boundary=national_park
> admin_level=4
> park:type=state_game_land
> 
> The underlying physical land use can then be mapped orthogonally to
> this.
> 
> Are there any objections to this? Am I forgetting anything? Please let
> me know!
> 
> I'd probably toss in some ownership tag as well.

definitely if it makes sense, in this case
state_game_land is a clear sign for the ownership
in some areas parks or openspace is privately owned and such info is valuable

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Re: [Talk-us] PA State Parks

2010-03-24 Thread Adam Killian
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 20:46 -0400, Sven Lafebre wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been looking at state parks, state forests and state game lands  
> in Pennsylvania. I think Adam Killian uploaded most of these a year or  
> two ago—I don't know if he's on this mailing list.
> 

Hello.  I am still here.  The tags I used were just my best guess at the
time.  It won't hurt my feelings if you think you have a better tagging
scheme.

Incidentally, I got most of the shapefiles from
http://www.pasda.psu.edu/

I got unofficial confirmation from an employee at the Fish and Boat
Commission that this data was public domain.

I know some of the SGLs have fields in them which look like farms in the
satellite images, but really aren't.  They're just grown for the benefit
of the deer from what I understand.

I also read in the news recently that the Game Commission and DCNR
swapped some lands, so some State Forest Lands became State Game Lands
and vice-versa.  I don't know if this change has been reflected in the
state datasets yet.  I don't really have the time at the moment keep up
with these kinds of things.

--Adam


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Re: [Talk-us] PA State Parks

2010-03-24 Thread Tyler Ritchie
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Sven Lafebre  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at state parks, state forests and state game lands
> in Pennsylvania. I think Adam Killian uploaded most of these a year or
> two ago—I don't know if he's on this mailing list.
>
> Most of these parks are tagged as physical areas. For example, state
> game lands are natural=wood and leisure=nature_reserve. Unfortunately,
> these tags don't always correspond to the actual land use. Moreover,
> they are really administrative entities, not physical ones. So I would
> like to change them to something similar to the scheme used for parks
> e.g. in the Bay Area:
>
> boundary=national_park
> admin_level=4
> park:type=state_game_land
>
> The underlying physical land use can then be mapped orthogonally to
> this.
>
> Are there any objections to this? Am I forgetting anything? Please let
> me know!


I'd probably toss in some ownership tag as well.
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Re: [Talk-us] PA State Parks

2010-03-24 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Sven Lafebre  wrote:
> Most of these parks are tagged as physical areas. For example, state
> game lands are natural=wood and leisure=nature_reserve. Unfortunately,
> these tags don't always correspond to the actual land use. Moreover,
> they are really administrative entities, not physical ones. So I would
> like to change them to something similar to the scheme used for parks
> e.g. in the Bay Area:
>
> boundary=national_park
> admin_level=4
> park:type=state_game_land
>
> The underlying physical land use can then be mapped orthogonally to
> this.

I'm not sure if the tagging is correct, but that's probably the right
sort of approach moving forward as people might want to micro-map the
land cover.

Cheers,

Adam

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[Talk-us] PA State Parks

2010-03-24 Thread Sven Lafebre
Hi all,

I've been looking at state parks, state forests and state game lands  
in Pennsylvania. I think Adam Killian uploaded most of these a year or  
two ago—I don't know if he's on this mailing list.

Most of these parks are tagged as physical areas. For example, state  
game lands are natural=wood and leisure=nature_reserve. Unfortunately,  
these tags don't always correspond to the actual land use. Moreover,  
they are really administrative entities, not physical ones. So I would  
like to change them to something similar to the scheme used for parks  
e.g. in the Bay Area:

boundary=national_park
admin_level=4
park:type=state_game_land

The underlying physical land use can then be mapped orthogonally to  
this.

Are there any objections to this? Am I forgetting anything? Please let  
me know!

Thanks,
—Sven
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