Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Introduction
Hi Wimpie! You've come to the right place: we need more GPS traces, especially of out-of-the-way places. Do you have a GPS device that can record traces, and do you know how to get them as GPX files? If so, you can upload them to http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces - you'll have to create a username, but that is quick and easy. If you get Nic Roets's Gosmore software for a gps device, you can see which roads don't currently have streetnames loaded. If you drive down those streets, you can capture the information as well. There are various ways to do this. There are some other interesting projects going on, for example Nic's project to get house numbers for all the roads in Pretoria. You can get in touch with him through this mailing list if you will have the time and energy for this kind of thing. Regards, David On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Gotek go...@lantic.net wrote: Good day all A quick Introduction to every one I live in Rooihuiskraal, Centurion, Pretoria And work in Midrand Do a substantial amount of travelling for my work If any body needs help in these areas please let me know Would like to get more involved the open street mapping of South Africa Regards Wimpie -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] Introduction and tagging question
Hi All I recently got involved in the OSM project as a by-product of my Geocaching activities. I've subsequently spent hours uploading the archived tracks (going back about a year) from my Oregon and learning how to use Potlatch and more recently JOSM to add to the map. I stay in the Durbanville area, and was quite surprised to find that many of the newer roads around us were not on the map. I'm proud to say that some of them now are, with more to follow. Something that I noticed fairly quickly on my drive to work through the Durbanville Winelands was that none of the many wine farms were mapped. Looking further afield, I see that the same applies in Stellenbosch, Paarl, the Robertson Valley and so on. As doing the wine route is a major tourist activity in Cape Town, I feel that this omission needs to be rectified, and have decided to make a start by mapping the wine farms around Durbanville. Hopefully I can then have an excuse to visit even more in the future ;) My problem is that I can't find a suitable tag to mark them with. I've checked all the wiki sites I can think of, but the closest I can come up with is amenity=winery and then adding the name, but this doesn't seem to end up showing on the map. On other maps the wine tasting locations show up with a small wine glass, but so far I haven't managed this. Can anyone offer any advice. I'd also like to be able to add opening times. How would I go about that? Thanks Bryan ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] Introduction
Hi all, I just wanted to introduce myself to everyone on the ZA list. I recently discovered OSM and think it is a wonderful initiative. I am on the KZN south coast, and have started mapping the areas I travel frequently. I have also enlisted the help of friends and colleagues with GPS units whereby they email me their tracks when they can, and I can then map them. One of the areas I have difficulty with is obtaining the street names. Many of the streets are not marked, or the signs are badly deteriorated (I have resorted to asking residents what the street name is!). There are also many back roads (both dirt and tar) which I assume would be district roads (D???), but again no markings. Is there any reliable source (perhaps government archives or something) that I am allowed to use? The other difficulty is with road classifications. At present, I am tagging all roads in urban areas as highway:tertiary except for roads in residential areas, which are highway:residential. I am tagging dirt roads that are main roads (Dxxx) as highway:secondary and surface:unpaved, while farm roads are highway:track with tracktype:gradex. National routes (N2) as either highway:motorway or highway:trunk depending on whether there is a median present. Other main routes (R102, R620 etc) as highway:primary, and other named main roads (not Rxxx routes) linking towns as highway:secondary. Does this make sense? Also, what is the convention regarding ref:* and name:* tags? What I have done is use the ref tag for the Nx, Rxxx or Dxxx name, and the name tag for the descriptive name. For example, the R620 is called Marine Drive along most of the south coast, so then that is ref:R620 and name:Marine Drive, but for a section around Margate it splits into 2 roads, where one is name:Marine Drive running through town, and ref:R620 goes around. I'm pleased to be able to help, but want to make sure I am doing this correctly! How many mappers do we have in SA? Kind regards, Philip ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] INTRODUCTION REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE
Guys, Thanks for the fantastic responses suggestions. I'm going to take you up on the offers for tech assistance, will also keep you in the loop on progress. Having spent almost a yr here in the heart of Silicon Valley in the US, I am convinced that location-aware geo-mobile is the next major wave in media comms. And, for that to happen, we need open source maps. Cheers, Justin - Original Message - From: Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com To: justin arenstein justin.arenst...@stanford.edu Cc: talk-za@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 4 April, 2010 02:05:09 GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] INTRODUCTION REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE Hello Justin, On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM, justin.arenst...@stanford.edu wrote: [3] Tracking crime reports, from both police private security companies, and mapping it so that it is accessible to ordinary residents so they can begin to understand the underlying trends, hotspots, etc. I'd like to use this project to take the interactivity one step further, so that in addition to them being able to send in crime reports, the site / map will also send back alerts to users when a crime happens in their neighbourhood. Eblockwatch.co.za already collects crime reports from its users and alerts them when they receive new reports. It's interface is however quite terrible. Even worse is the fact they send a lot of sensationalist emails to their users and the only way to block that is to unsubscribe completely. Something that combines the visual presentation of oakland.crimespotting.org and the ease of use of openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org will be ideal. I am however already spending to much time writing openstreetmap software and my knowledge of openlayers is too limited. Regards, Nic ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] INTRODUCTION REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE
Hi Justin, I think you've got a brilliant project here, and I'd be willing to help as far as possible. I've not done any coding on OSM yet, but I can program and I have submitted GPS data and map info to the project, so I know the basics about OSM. Unfortunately I don't have a huge amount of time, but I'll keep an eye on the mailing list and if I see a way that I can add value, I'll definitely jump in. If you have specific requests for help (e.g. how do I do X? Can someone apply Y plugin to OSM - the code is at Y.org.YY) that will grab my attention. Good luck! David On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM, justin.arenst...@stanford.edu wrote: Hi guys, I'm a journalist based in Mpumalanga (though on sabbatical in the US at the moment), who is exploring geo-mobile and location-aware reporting tools as a way of making news more relevant more accessible to people. Journalists are notoriously bad at maths or IT though, I'm definitely not a techie. I'm struggling with a lot of the GIS and coding aspects of the projects I want to tackle, was hoping to find possible collaborators here to help. What I'm really keen to do is replicate some of the mapping data visualisation I've seen in the US, at places like www.oakland.crimespotting.org and www.ushahidi.org, to tell news stories in a visual way that gives people info they can immediately use. The owners of both platforms have given me permission to use their open APIs and source code ... but I don't know how to deploy or customise it. Some of the thing's I'd like to do are: [1.1] Prove the power of mapping as a means to tell news stories in a high-profile proof-of-concept case by tracking the service delivery riots that have swept across Mpumalanga over the past year, and that have sparked similar riots elsewhere in SA. No-one else has actually told the coherent story yet, by joining the dots to see whether there are underlying trends, triggers, or commons patterns. I'd like to tell the story using a similar chronological categorised interface as the Oakland Crimespotting folk. [1.2] As part of this project, I'd like to add a layer to the map tracking all the xenophobic attacks in the Mpumalanga region over the same period, to see whether there are any relations between them the service delivery riots. Once we've got the basic data sets up, I could then start adding additional layers tracking corruption, infrastructure problems, matric results (a big issue in Mpumalanga), etc. This layered information would start doing what the SA media has failed to do: tell us why things happen. Then, once we've proved the concept, I'd like to tackle the following kinds of mapping projects: [2] Tracking public infrastructure problems, so citizens can start reporting everything from potholes to broken water pipes / drains using their cellphones (SMS cameras) to send geo-tagged time-stamped reports via an Ushahidi-type interface. I could then use this to identify hotspots, trends, etc, to produce media reports that force authorities to act. [3] Tracking crime reports, from both police private security companies, and mapping it so that it is accessible to ordinary residents so they can begin to understand the underlying trends, hotspots, etc. I'd like to use this project to take the interactivity one step further, so that in addition to them being able to send in crime reports, the site / map will also send back alerts to users when a crime happens in their neighbourhood. I've got a couple of other additional ideas as well, and have access to a newsroom (to help generate the content), etc. What I really need is mapping experts to assist. Anyhow interested? Justin Arenstein Knight Fellow Mobile: +1-650-575-1944 Email: justin.arenst...@stanford.edu Twitter: JustinArenstein Web: http://www.linkedin.com/in/justinarenstein Web: http://knight.stanford.edu/ Visit FAIR's website at: http://www.fairreporters.org Visit CAPITAL's new fan-page on Facebook at: http://bit.ly/5918SS Visit LOWVELD LIVING's new fan-page on Facebook at: http://bit.ly/6Mot8K ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] INTRODUCTION REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE
Me too. I'm in Johannesburg ATM, but it looks like an interesting project. On 4 April 2010 08:17, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Justin, I think you've got a brilliant project here, and I'd be willing to help as far as possible. I've not done any coding on OSM yet, but I can program and I have submitted GPS data and map info to the project, so I know the basics about OSM. Unfortunately I don't have a huge amount of time, but I'll keep an eye on the mailing list and if I see a way that I can add value, I'll definitely jump in. If you have specific requests for help (e.g. how do I do X? Can someone apply Y plugin to OSM - the code is at Y.org.YY) that will grab my attention. Good luck! David On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM, justin.arenst...@stanford.edu wrote: Hi guys, I'm a journalist based in Mpumalanga (though on sabbatical in the US at the moment), who is exploring geo-mobile and location-aware reporting tools as a way of making news more relevant more accessible to people. Journalists are notoriously bad at maths or IT though, I'm definitely not a techie. I'm struggling with a lot of the GIS and coding aspects of the projects I want to tackle, was hoping to find possible collaborators here to help. What I'm really keen to do is replicate some of the mapping data visualisation I've seen in the US, at places like www.oakland.crimespotting.org and www.ushahidi.org, to tell news stories in a visual way that gives people info they can immediately use. The owners of both platforms have given me permission to use their open APIs and source code ... but I don't know how to deploy or customise it. Some of the thing's I'd like to do are: [1.1] Prove the power of mapping as a means to tell news stories in a high-profile proof-of-concept case by tracking the service delivery riots that have swept across Mpumalanga over the past year, and that have sparked similar riots elsewhere in SA. No-one else has actually told the coherent story yet, by joining the dots to see whether there are underlying trends, triggers, or commons patterns. I'd like to tell the story using a similar chronological categorised interface as the Oakland Crimespotting folk. [1.2] As part of this project, I'd like to add a layer to the map tracking all the xenophobic attacks in the Mpumalanga region over the same period, to see whether there are any relations between them the service delivery riots. Once we've got the basic data sets up, I could then start adding additional layers tracking corruption, infrastructure problems, matric results (a big issue in Mpumalanga), etc. This layered information would start doing what the SA media has failed to do: tell us why things happen. Then, once we've proved the concept, I'd like to tackle the following kinds of mapping projects: [2] Tracking public infrastructure problems, so citizens can start reporting everything from potholes to broken water pipes / drains using their cellphones (SMS cameras) to send geo-tagged time-stamped reports via an Ushahidi-type interface. I could then use this to identify hotspots, trends, etc, to produce media reports that force authorities to act. [3] Tracking crime reports, from both police private security companies, and mapping it so that it is accessible to ordinary residents so they can begin to understand the underlying trends, hotspots, etc. I'd like to use this project to take the interactivity one step further, so that in addition to them being able to send in crime reports, the site / map will also send back alerts to users when a crime happens in their neighbourhood. I've got a couple of other additional ideas as well, and have access to a newsroom (to help generate the content), etc. What I really need is mapping experts to assist. Anyhow interested? Justin Arenstein Knight Fellow Mobile: +1-650-575-1944 Email: justin.arenst...@stanford.edu Twitter: JustinArenstein Web: http://www.linkedin.com/in/justinarenstein Web: http://knight.stanford.edu/ Visit FAIR's website at: http://www.fairreporters.org Visit CAPITAL's new fan-page on Facebook at: http://bit.ly/5918SS Visit LOWVELD LIVING's new fan-page on Facebook at: http://bit.ly/6Mot8K ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] INTRODUCTION REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE
Hello Justin, On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM, justin.arenst...@stanford.edu wrote: [3] Tracking crime reports, from both police private security companies, and mapping it so that it is accessible to ordinary residents so they can begin to understand the underlying trends, hotspots, etc. I'd like to use this project to take the interactivity one step further, so that in addition to them being able to send in crime reports, the site / map will also send back alerts to users when a crime happens in their neighbourhood. Eblockwatch.co.za already collects crime reports from its users and alerts them when they receive new reports. It's interface is however quite terrible. Even worse is the fact they send a lot of sensationalist emails to their users and the only way to block that is to unsubscribe completely. Something that combines the visual presentation of oakland.crimespotting.org and the ease of use of openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org will be ideal. I am however already spending to much time writing openstreetmap software and my knowledge of openlayers is too limited. Regards, Nic ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] Introduction
Dear All I apologise for bombarding your mailboxes. I am very keen on OSM, but am a complete beginner when it comes to recording and uploading traces etc. If someone feels like taking me with when they next do it, I'd be very glad. I own an Android phone with GPS, so there is software that can log traces. I live in the CBD. Best Eduard -- Eduard Grebe AIDS Society Research Unit Contact: http://card.ly/eduardgrebe ASRU: http://www.cssr.uct.ac.za/asru ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Introduction
Hi Eduard Welcome to OpenStreetMap! I see that you have signed up to the mapping party on the weekend of the 19th / 20th (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cape_Town_mapping_party_-_September_2009). It'll be good to see you there. In the mean time, have you looked here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_Guide ? Regards, Brendan Barrett From: Eduard Grebe Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 3:21 PM To: talk-za@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Introduction Dear All I apologise for bombarding your mailboxes. I am very keen on OSM, but am a complete beginner when it comes to recording and uploading traces etc. If someone feels like taking me with when they next do it, I'd be very glad. I own an Android phone with GPS, so there is software that can log traces. I live in the CBD. Best Eduard -- Eduard Grebe AIDS Society Research Unit Contact: http://card.ly/eduardgrebe ASRU: http://www.cssr.uct.ac.za/asru ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] Introduction
Hello Wiki says to introduce myself to this list, so I will. My name is Tomas. I'm alcoho... tpfu... I came from Lithuania to South Africa for a year or two. I will be living in Johannesburg. I was tracking, mapping, routing, fixing Lithuania map and I'm going to do the same in RSA (I've already done some minor mapping last year near Knysna). My OSM username is just TomasStraupis. I went through South African mapping standards, progress pages etc. but I'm still missing some information: 1. Is anybody creating Garmin img files for RSA regularily (daily-weekly)? I was doing that for Lithuania, but my internet connection here is far from that I had (because of accommodation issues I'm restricted to 3G) and South Africa has slightly more data :) 2. Is there any QA server with South African data (something like keepright.ipax.at for Europe)? 3. Is there something specific I should know about mapping in South Africa? Thank you! -- Tomas Straupis ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
