Re: 3.0.9.11 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Peter, Peter Ouwehand wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Are there any other users who can confirm this? I fear no, can't confirm. Maybe a Win2k dependent one. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Who sent this e-mail? (was: Global folders, multiple e-mail accounts, and replies)
Hello Zygmunt, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Of course, if your address is in BCC field then this method fails. But he could maybe use the Envelope-To or Delivered-To header to detect to which address the mail was sent. However, I can't see (so far) a bug of TheBat! -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
View mode: New mode not shown in list
Hello tbbeta, - right click on the header of the message list - choose Manage View Modes - create a new view mode and assign it to the current folder using Use by - press OK - right click on the header of the message list = the newly created view mode is NOT shown in the list You have to restart TB to see it there. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.12 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Who sent this e-mail? (was: Global folders, multiple e-mail accounts, and replies)
On Sunday, April 3, 2005, 06:05, hggdh wrote: My personal view is that an e-mail client should frown on using a 'From:' address that is not configured under a valid account. In other words, the 'Reply-To' header field has to be a valid reference when the e-mail leaves the e-mail client. This, for an e-mail client, would go a long way on having said e-mail client taken out of some spammer lists. I do follow your thoughts, but as long as we CAN alter the From: address, I see no reason not to let us do it in the easiest way. I would applause a more rigid email standard with, say, certificates with hard coded From: addresses or any other measures to make life harder for spammers, but as long as (non-encrypted) emailing is based on trust, I do want the advantages that provides along with the disadvantages. I do, from time to time, have legit reasons to change the From: address temporarily and I do appreciate TB! letting me do it as easy as it does. I doubt this feature makes spammers use TB!, there must be more efficient tools our there. Our concern should not be with spamming, but with spoofing. Preventing spoofing is not made at the client level thought, it must be dealt with by the ISP or the receiver. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
Hello Bill, But when Ritlabs removes the pre-, I plan to download the next beta and resume testing. I have no problem with whatever reasons you may have to decide when you start testing and what versions you test or not. They are your reasons and that's all there is to it. We all have our own reasons and there is no need top justify them. What I find annoying, if I understood you correctly, is that you want Ritlabs, the moderators and actually all of us, to follow some rules and use some naming conventions to make one of your filters work. At least that is the way I interpret it. And all I am saying is that, if you want to know when a version that meets your needs/requirements is released, you should simply stay tuned. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hello Boris, On 02 April 2005 at 16:56:22 GMT +0200 (which was 16:56:22 where I live), Boris Anders wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available: Hello Henk, Henk Bruijn wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): [-] Minor : Minimise in Tray menu Forgive my ignorance. But what does this mean? Right click on the Tray Icon open a context menu. In prebetas the entry minimise was missing. Gee...I was hoping that TB would minimise when I click on the X in the upper right hand corner...well...it seems the on the wish list so we have to wait some more time...;-)l -- Best regards, Dick ___ If it can't be understood, it's not finished yet.-- Paul Herbig Using The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Attention Moderators
Hi Miguel, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M What I find annoying, if I understood you correctly, is that you M want Ritlabs, the moderators and actually all of us, to follow some M rules and use some naming conventions to make one of your filters M work. At least that is the way I interpret it. Does it really affect that much that you need stand your position in such a vehement way? M And all I am saying is that, if you want to know when a version M that meets your needs/requirements is released, you should simply M stay tuned. Why not implement the alpha, pre-beta, beta prefix? Does it constrain your testing? Do you REALLY see a negative side? I, personally, find it clarifying! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias All right Spread `em! - While playing cops and robbers... Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hi Dick, Sunday, April 3, 2005, 11:34:35 AM, you wrote: DH Gee...I was hoping that TB would minimise when I click on the DH X in the upper right hand corner...well...it seems the on the wish DH list so we have to wait some more time...;-)l I live and hope too -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Who sent this e-mail? (was: Global folders, multiple e-mail accounts, and replies)
Hello Greg, GS Define valid account please! By Global Folder do you mean common GS folder or has Ritlabs changed the terminology here? A valid account, as far as I am concerned here, is an account that has been defined in TB!, and on which one can send and receive e-mails. A valid account is composed of an e-mail user name (and, perhaps, more than one) and one or more e-mail servers which are used to send or receive e-mails. and yes, Common Folder. I stand corrected. :1,$s/Global/Common/g GS What is a fake 'From' field? First of all -- TB! is a client e-mail programme. This means that it is used to reach an e-mail server (perhaps more than one) and collect or send e-mails. TB! is not an e-mail server. For any e-mail client to be used one has to configure it with valid e-mail account names, servers, etc. An fake 'From:' field is, then, when the 'From:' (or 'Reply-To') is filled with an e-mail address that does not correspond to the e-mail account name (perhaps more than one). GS If one defines 'fake' in a broad sense, then one could say that my ISP GS should NOT accept my outbound email using a 'From' header of my own GS domain the does NOT correspond with [EMAIL PROTECTED] configuration. This could also be discussed -- if an ISP should, or should not, accept incorrectly-coded (as defined for the specific account in use) e-mail addresses. But I am not discussing the ISP, here -- my problem is with the client. GS If this is what you mean, then I totally disagree. Why? Because I use GS authentication to access my ISP's SMTP mail server. What this provides GS is the ability to use the same email address without regard to what GS ISP I use. I wouldn't be able to do this without an email client like GS TB unless I ran my own mail server. If I ran my own mail server I GS would have to have an ISP that does NOT restrict port 25 or prohibit GS such applications in their TOS unless I purchase a much more expensive GS business account. Authentication has nothing to do with this issue. Authentication is an issue between you and your ISP. I also use authentication on *ALL* of my e-mail accounts. I also use encryption when I connect to my ISP to send/receive e-mails. And, still, I was able to send, on an e-mail account, with an incorrectly-coded (for this e-mail account) 'From:' field. -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgpI1z1BeHvoq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Clicking on a link crashes TB
Hello tbbeta, since 3.0.9.12 when clicking on a link inside a message (displayed in plain text format), TheBat crashes. It displays the hour glass and nothing happens - it has to be closed using the task manager. This happens in the overview window as well as in the folder view. Confirmations? -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.12 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Clicking on a link crashes TB
Hello Peter, On 03 April 2005 at 16:16:13 GMT +0200 (which was 16:16:13 where I live), Peter Hampf wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Clicking on a link crashes TB: Hello tbbeta, since 3.0.9.12 when clicking on a link inside a message (displayed in plain text format), TheBat crashes. It displays the hour glass and nothing happens - it has to be closed using the task manager. This happens in the overview window as well as in the folder view. Confirmations? This doesn't happen after a fresh restart of TheBat. But as with many of the AVs, they pop up on functions that usually work fine but not anymore if the program has been used for some time. -- Best regards, Dick ___ Life's like a bird, it's pretty cute until it shits on your head. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Clicking on a link crashes TB
On Sunday, April 3, 2005, at 16:16:13 [UTC+0200] (Sunday, April 3, 2005 16:16 my local time) Peter Hampf wrote: since 3.0.9.12 when clicking on a link inside a message (displayed in plain text format), TheBat crashes. It displays the hour glass and nothing happens - it has to be closed using the task manager. This happens in the overview window as well as in the folder view. Confirmations? Cannot confirm. I have tried several different links and nothing happened. I use Firefox browser by default. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Who sent this e-mail?
On Sunday, April 3, 2005, 16:03:46, hggdh wrote: An fake 'From:' field is, then, when the 'From:' (or 'Reply-To') is filled with an e-mail address that does not correspond to the e-mail account name (perhaps more than one). That would make it very hard to use TB in my configuration - I use my own mail server, and it's configured to accept a lot of addresses and deliver them to me. I also send messages with some of these addresses in the From field (using TB's macros to automatically select the proper address), but I have only 1 address configured in the account properties. By doing this, it's easy for me to track where somebody got my e-mail address, and I can also easily disable the address server-side if I start getting too much spam on it. Your suggestion would make this impossible. The address I use for mailing lists is one such example. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return on Windows NT Clone 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Spend sufficient time confirming the need and the need will disappear. -- Ed's Fifth Rule of Procrastination Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Who sent this e-mail?
Hello Jernej, Sunday, April 3, 2005, 10:11:15, you wrote: JS That would make it very hard to use TB in my configuration - I use JS my own mail server, and it's configured to accept a lot of JS addresses and deliver them to me. I also send messages with some JS of these addresses in the From field (using TB's macros to JS automatically select the proper address), but I have only 1 JS address configured in the account properties. By doing this, it's JS easy for me to track where somebody got my e-mail address, and I JS can also easily disable the address server-side if I start getting JS too much spam on it. Your suggestion would make this impossible. JS The address I use for mailing lists is one such example. So we have two of us that use it this way. This is enough to say that such a rule cannot be absolute. I have nothing against this. What I still have against is TB! sending out e-mail *defaulting* to such behaviour. -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgpjycelhvV6W.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Who sent this e-mail? (was: Global folders, multiple e-mail accounts, and replies)
Hello Zygmunt and Boris, ZW Using common folders (I think they are that what you mean) with different ZW SMTP servers and matching appropriate accounts is possible by reply ZW template. Place in this template a series of %IF macros like: ZW %IF:%OTOADDR=your_addr_account1:%ACCOUNT='account1' ZW It should resolve your problem with sending replies matched to 'valid' ZW accounts and servers. Of course, if your address is in BCC field then ZW this method fails. In such a case The Bat! will use default account. and, from Boris: BA But he could maybe use the Envelope-To or Delivered-To header to BA detect to which address the mail was sent. Thanks to both for pointing this out to me. It is a way out right now. But... my point is that one should not need to do that -- TB! should be able to easily do it. -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgp2m8l4Jzx7Y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
On Sat 2-Apr-05 4:10pm -0600, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I solved that problem with a virtual folder under my TBBETA folder. Conditions: 'sender contains @ritlabs.' and 'Header does not contain References' - this way I catch only the new (ie. non-reply) messages by the RIT fellows, which are mostly the announcements for a new version. The virtual folder idea is a good one. I've created one to watch the beta list with the following conditions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND-Subject-does not match-^Re[][0-9()]*: AND-Age-is less than-14 days Thanks, Alexander! -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Clicking on a link crashes TB
Hello Peter, Peter Hampf wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): since 3.0.9.12 when clicking on a link inside a message (displayed in plain text format), TheBat crashes. Can't confirm. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Clicking on a link crashes TB
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:06:33 +0200GMT (3-4-2005, 18:06 +0100, where I live), Boris Anders wrote: Peter Hampf wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): since 3.0.9.12 when clicking on a link inside a message (displayed in plain text format), TheBat crashes. Can't confirm. Not here either. -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.9.12 Professional on Windows XP SP2 When your key is not certified with a trusted signature! Keysigning is possible when you have a X.509 certificate from Thawte or CAcert with your name on it pgpurGCllomlL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Customizing the Toolbar Again?
With the latest version of TheBat with OTFE I still cannot customize my Toolbars. I can insert an icon to represent a function I want carried out, but the icon does nothing when depressed. Does anyone know if the customize toolbar functionality is planned for this series? -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.9.12 Return on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Clicking on a link crashes TB
On Sunday, April 03, 2005, at 9:16:47 AM, Peter wrote: since 3.0.9.12 when clicking on a link inside a message (displayed in plain text format), TheBat crashes. It displays the hour glass and nothing happens - it has to be closed using the task manager. This happens in the overview window as well as in the folder view. Confirmations? Working fine here... -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.9.12 Return on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
Hello Goncalo, On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:40:33 +0100 GMT (03/04/2005, 19:40 +0700 GMT), Goncalo Farias wrote: GF Why not implement the alpha, pre-beta, beta prefix? Does it GF constrain your testing? Do you REALLY see a negative side? I do: Confusion. GF I, personally, find it clarifying! An alpha version is by definition an in-house testing version that is not ready yet to be let loose on the external beta testers. When the software house thinks that all bugs have been found and fixed, the software goes into beta testing. The external beta testers will invariably find more bugs, because everybody uses a software differently, and often in a way the in-house developers didn't think of. That's the whole purpose of beta-testing. The reason that an alpha version of TB was released to the beta testers is (IMHO) a direct response to the wishes (pressure?) of this list. Adventurous list members are taking part in the alpha (which is certainly before beta, i.e. pre-beta) testing, and that has caused quite some traffic on this list. That's all, as far as I can see. While this means that the difference between an alpha and a beta version has become blurred, I see no reason to change the list rules and subject lines. Just my 2 cents. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hier abgesellte Fahrzeuge werden brutal zerlegt!!! * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:12:58 +0700GMT (3-4-2005, 18:12 +0100, where I live), Thomas Fernandez wrote: ...snip An alpha version is by definition an in-house testing version that is not ready yet to be let loose on the external beta testers. When the software house thinks that all bugs have been found and fixed, the software goes into beta testing. The external beta testers will invariably find more bugs, because everybody uses a software differently, and often in a way the in-house developers didn't think of. That's the whole purpose of beta-testing. The reason that an alpha version of TB was released to the beta testers is (IMHO) a direct response to the wishes (pressure?) of this list. Adventurous list members are taking part in the alpha (which is certainly before beta, i.e. pre-beta) testing, and that has caused quite some traffic on this list. That's all, as far as I can see. While this means that the difference between an alpha and a beta version has become blurred, I see no reason to change the list rules and subject lines. You have my vote! -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.9.12 Professional on Windows XP SP2 When your key is not certified with a trusted signature! Keysigning is possible when you have a X.509 certificate from Thawte or CAcert with your name on it pgpIqpIOLaFIH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Customizing the Toolbar Again?
Hi Nick Andriash, Sunday, April 3, 2005 you let us know: With the latest version of TheBat with OTFE I still cannot customize my Toolbars. I can insert an icon to represent a function I want carried out, but the icon does nothing when depressed. Does anyone know if the customize toolbar functionality is planned for this series? Hm... do you remember the proud announcements and all the promised benefits for V.3? As far as I can remember this happened about half a year before sudden, overnight, in the middle of betatesting The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 the thing was called history and The Bat! v3.0.0.6 Pranayama fell out of the blues sky. Read http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta for reference if you like. Now take a look at the calendar and make your own conclusions. I begin wondering if we will ever get a good, stable, for-all-usable V3 higher than the one I am using now. Look on top of Rit's site: 3.5 is announced since April. April + 6 months is September. 3 - 3.5 -4. Easy, hm? In September we will have a brand new V4, if I read the signs clearly, having all the toys and thingies or functions you were asking for. At least they all will be promised, like before. That may be called continuity. :- BTW: Does anyone remember MaXxX? -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Clicking on a link crashes TB
Good evening Dick, on Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:49:25 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: DH This doesn't happen after a fresh restart of TheBat. But as with DH many of the AVs, they pop up on functions that usually work fine but not DH anymore if the program has been used for some time. Maybe you are right. I tried it a two hours ago with several restarts of TB - no go. It hung every time I clicked on a link. Suddenly it works again ... . It's a miracle :-) -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.12 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
On Sun 3-Apr-05 10:12am -0600, Thomas Fernandez wrote: While this means that the difference between an alpha and a beta version has become blurred, I see no reason to change the list rules and subject lines. In the past, if I wanted to test pre-beta versions, I would check out those versions at: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/daily.txt and download the latest at: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/daily.rar I would not comment on those pre-beta versions on the beta list - I would write directly to the developers. Now we have a released pre-beta and plenty of traffic on the beta list. Perhaps a separate alpha or pre-beta list would be a better place for these non beta discussion to take place. Meanwhile, a Ritlabs message should have been posted to the beta list informing us that no more beta discussions would be reviewed until the next beta is released. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
Hi Bill, On 3/4/2005 11:37 AM -0600, you wrote: Now we have a released pre-beta and plenty of traffic on the beta list. Perhaps a separate alpha or pre-beta list would be a better place for these non beta discussion to take place. I'd say that simply ignoring the current traffic would be more appropriate. :) We can't adjust and make new lists simply because the current traffic isn't what you're interested in. You're not being reasonable. I'm currently in limbo with TB! and really am currently only interested in IMAP matters and have no interest really in the current interface changes. Afterall, without reliable IMAP, TB! is useless to me. So I propose creating a new list for IMAP matters. In this way, I don't have to deal with the current traffic. We could create further lists in this way. Just not practical. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Outlaw junk mail, and save the trees! p7ss8f5Dlh6wG.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
On Sun 3-Apr-05 1:03pm -0600, Allie Martin wrote: On 3/4/2005 11:37 AM -0600, you wrote: Now we have a released pre-beta and plenty of traffic on the beta list. Perhaps a separate alpha or pre-beta list would be a better place for these non beta discussion to take place. I'd say that simply ignoring the current traffic would be more appropriate. :) We can't adjust and make new lists simply because the current traffic isn't what you're interested in. You're not being reasonable. Allie, you seem to forget that this IS the beta list - not the Alpha or Pre-Beta list. Traffic not about the beta is inappropriate on the beta list. Is it not reasonable to have a list for people using the current pre-betas, or (after the next beta is released) people using the daily pre-betas? BTW, is is very easy in TB! to just look at your IMAP emails. Use a View Mode filtering for IMAP in the subject. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return: choose language
At a spelling of this letter of any user has not suffered, Boris! I have seen your words to Andrey On a subject The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return: choose language, Which went to me during 38 . When I choose Russian thus language of the interface of the program does not vary in the menu. Confirm whether or not? BA Here, translation of menu needs a restart of TheBat! At restart absolutely has changed nothing! -- :devil: Ave Satanas!, Abaddon from Hell e-mail: izakaron[dog]gmail.com WEB: www.hatebreeders.tk - Russian Dark Music Web-Zone And if there is a drop of compassion it is possible to put money to me on E-Gold account 1701334 pgpvIvp2dQ30F.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
Dear Bill, @3-Apr-2005, 13:40 -0500 (03-Apr 19:40 UK time) Bill McCarthy [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allie: BM Allie, you seem to forget that this IS the beta list - Bill - you are reading the packet too closely. This is absolutely *THE* beta. There is no other development version of The Bat. 3.0.9.12 has become so stable now that it is certainly as stable as any other early beta we've seen here. Calling it Alpha or Pre-beta is not a true technical label. It is merely a humility on behalf of ritlabs concerning the uncharacteristically unstable nature of the earlier releases. BM not the Alpha or Pre-Beta list. Traffic not about the beta is BM inappropriate on the beta list. Correct. And, whatever label or additional name you want to give it, the 3.0.9 series is a beta. BM Is it not reasonable to have a list for people using the current BM pre-betas, It is not. This is a beta, whatever else it may represent to you. The majority of list members consider it the beta. We who run the list consider it so too. BM or (after the next beta is released) people using the daily BM pre-betas? That's completely different. We are not looking at the daily's, we're looking at the official beta as specified on the RITlabs beta page. I can see you're having not too easy a time at grasping that. As I said earlier you're getting too wrapped up in what it says on the packet rather than the contents. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.12 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpVjx3h96Tw9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Customizing the Toolbar Again?
Hello all, Sunday, April 3, 2005, Nick Andriash wrote: With the latest version of TheBat with OTFE I still cannot customize my Toolbars. I can insert an icon to represent a function I want carried out, but the icon does nothing when depressed. Does anyone know if the customize toolbar functionality is planned for this series? yes and it is still under development. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
yeee-haah
Hello all, I don't know which of the changes in account properties and settings it was, I am happy to say: Finally I can run the new TB-series! :girlcheer: I deleted some split messages which weren't correctly handled for some reason -I could never see them, even deleting was not easy. It might have been their presence, although never clicked... who cares :-) Back to serious testing! :cleaning: -- Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running TB 3.0.9.12 Return :clap: under Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Display issue
Hello 9Val, 9Val wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): In the 3.09.x series, you can't see any informations in the thread by from view than the from. You have to expand a thread, to see the informations. In earlier version, you could see all information of the root mail. Is this new view wanted or is it a bug? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View mode: New mode not shown in list
Hello Peter, Peter Hampf wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): - right click on the header of the message list - choose Manage View Modes - create a new view mode and assign it to the current folder using Use by - press OK - right click on the header of the message list = the newly created view mode is NOT shown in the list You have to restart TB to see it there. confirmed. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
ancient mail
Hello all, a short moment ago I had no unread mail in my incoming folder. Sudden, the mailticker started up and is showing 3 unread mails from sender named -1b with the subject -not kidding- 30th Dec 1899. When I click on it, TB opens an empty viewer field, with no message selected in the center. I can't get this thing off, reading the ghostmail is not possible. All folders contain only read messages. When I press a virtual folder tab unread I can clearly see there is no new mail. -- Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running TB 3.0.9.12 Return under Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
harmless AV
Hello all, on exit I got: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00404238 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0395A8E4. --- OK --- TB was locked and had to be shot down by TM. New start -new luck. AV is gone with the wind. FWIW: I selected German as default before it happened, went back to English after new start. BTW: my 3 ghostmails are gone in the meantime. -- Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running TB 3.0.9.12 Return under Windows XP 5 Service Pack 2 2600 1 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return: choose language
Bondarev. At a spelling of this letter of any user has not suffered, Boris! I have seen your words to Andrey On a subject The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return: choose language, Which went to me during 38 . When I choose Russian thus language of the interface of the program does not vary in the menu. Confirm whether or not? BA Here, translation of menu needs a restart of TheBat! At restart absolutely has changed nothing! BA Here, translation of menu needs a restart of TheBat! At restart absolutely has changed nothing! I confirm. There is nothing in Russian!!! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ TheBat 3.0.9.12 Return Windows XP 5 Service Pack 2 2600 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ancient mail
Hi Charlene, on Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:10:51 +0200GMT, you wrote: CF a short moment ago I had no unread mail in my incoming folder. Sudden, CF the mailticker started up and is showing 3 unread mails from sender CF named -1b with the subject -not kidding- 30th Dec 1899. When I click CF on it, TB opens an empty viewer field, with no message selected in the CF center. I sometimes have the same here too in connection with virtual folders. They usually go away by focusing the respective folder again. I didn't dare yet to try 3.0.9.x, or at least not for long, but this bug seems to be existent in 3.0.2.10 already... hmm -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
On Sun 3-Apr-05 1:57pm -0600, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Bill - you are reading the packet too closely. This is absolutely *THE* beta. There is no other development version of The Bat. 3.0.9.12 has become so stable now that it is certainly as stable as any other early beta we've seen here. Calling it Alpha or Pre-beta is not a true technical label. It is merely a humility on behalf of ritlabs concerning the uncharacteristically unstable nature of the earlier releases. Marck, the most recent installments have been from 9Val (who has not called them pre-beta). The most recent one from Stefen was just released on March 22. The subject reads: The Bat! 3.0.9.9 Return (pre-beta) is now available If it has suddenly gone beta, do you not think Ritlabs would say so? BM Is it not reasonable to have a list for BM people using the current BM pre-betas, It is not. This is a beta, whatever else it may represent to you. The majority of list members consider it the beta. We who run the list consider it so too. Represents to me? It is Ritlabs that is calling them pre-betas. Read that subject line, I quoted for you above, a few more times :-) BM or (after the next beta is released) people using the daily BM pre-betas? That's completely different. We are not looking at the daily's, we're looking at the official beta as specified on the RITlabs beta page. I can see you're having not too easy a time at grasping that. As I said earlier you're getting too wrapped up in what it says on the packet rather than the contents. Dailies are also pre-betas - just like these 3.0.9.x Returns. This is not a very complicated concept to grasp is it? If so, please read that March 22 subject line one more time. I have copied Stefan on this reply. If he thinks the current pre-beta is as good as you say, perhaps the next installment will be Beta/11 (or whatever they want to call it). Ritlabs will also tell us if we can safely unrar it over Beta/10 - the real current beta. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Clicking on a link crashes TB
Hello Peter, Sunday, April 3, 2005, 3:16:13 PM, you wrote: Hello tbbeta, since 3.0.9.12 when clicking on a link inside a message (displayed in plain text format), TheBat crashes. It displays the hour glass and nothing happens - it has to be closed using the task manager. This happens in the overview window as well as in the folder view. Confirmations? I get this with Opera but not with IE Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone Vodafone +353879120530 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
Hi Bill, On 3/4/2005 1:40 PM -0500, you wrote: Allie, you seem to forget that this IS the beta list - not the Alpha or Pre-Beta list. Traffic not about the beta is inappropriate on the beta list. I'd think that it's your rigidity to what 'beta list' means to subscribers and creators of the list, that is inappropriate. There are two clear divides that need to be established. A list that discusses full release TB! versions and one that discusses unreleased, *usually happens to be betas*, versions of TB!. The problem with discussing both in one place, especially if traffic concerning both is numerous, is clear. The beta list is for discussing test versions of TB!. Check around and you'll not see beta lists being called test lists. We call it 'beta list' and suddenly it's being rigidly held to the discussion of only betas? It's that rigidity or dogmatic approach that I find inappropriate and not worth addressing. Is it not reasonable to have a list for people using the current pre-betas, or (after the next beta is released) people using the daily pre-betas? No. Not worth it in my view. 9Val has addressed that in the past. If he offers you, via private mail, a daily build for you to test, then you privately discuss the problems you've found. If a pre-beta is publicly announced here, then why take it to another list. What makes it inappropriate? The list name, while ignoring the reason for creating the list in the first place??? BTW, is is very easy in TB! to just look at your IMAP emails. Use a View Mode filtering for IMAP in the subject. Not all IMAP related messages contain 'IMAP' in the subject. :) I do scan the messages and expect to have to do so. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Even in this corner of the galaxy, Captain, 2+2=4 ... Spock p7sH0v54klFig.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
Dear Bill, @3-Apr-2005, 16:00 -0500 (03-Apr 22:00 UK time) Bill McCarthy [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: Calling it Alpha or Pre-beta is not a true technical label. It is merely a humility on behalf of ritlabs concerning the uncharacteristically unstable nature of the earlier releases. BM Marck, the most recent installments have been from 9Val (who has BM not called them pre-beta). The most recent one from Stefen was BM just released on March 22. The subject reads: BMThe Bat! 3.0.9.9 Return (pre-beta) is now available Do we really need to go round in circles? Yes, they are calling it pre-beta. But that's just words. This software is not pre-beta. It is *real* beta. Like I said before - you have got FAR too hung up on the label and are ignoring the content and intent. It is not. This is a beta, whatever else it may represent to you. The majority of list members consider it the beta. We who run the list consider it so too. BM Represents to me? Yes - you are the one making a song and dance about the *significance* of what RITlabs are calling this beta series. To me, the phrase pre-beta is almost a humorous gesture in acknowledgement of how they have had to start the current cycle so much earlier than they would have liked. BM It is Ritlabs that is calling them pre-betas. Read that subject BM line, I quoted for you above, a few more times :-) Please stop. I'm not illiterate. I am perfectly capable of understanding what you mean and what the term pre-beta means to you. It doesn't mean the same thing to me in the context of the version we are testing now. Nor does it mean the same to the other mods, nor to most of the other beta testers on this list. BM Dailies are also pre-betas - Incorrect. Dailies are interim builds of betas, pre-betas and pre-release versions alike. Interim, that's all - not pre-anything. And they are not being produced right now either. BM just like these 3.0.9.x Returns. This is not a very complicated BM concept to grasp is it? It seems to be so. BM .. Ritlabs will also tell us if we can safely unrar it over Beta/10 BM - the real current beta. The current *real* beta IS 3.0.9.12, however much you want it not to be because of some wording on message subjects. Beta 3.0.2.10 is not the current beta. I say so. RITlabs say so (on their Beta web site) The list footer says so, The testers here on TBBETA say so. Okay, I can see that you'd rather argue about the words and not contribute to the real beta testing we are all doing. It is clear that you wish to continue using an obsolete version until RITlabs decide to take you seriously regarding subject lines of release notes. That is your choice and prerogative. But since we are now going round in ever decreasing circles - I don't agree with you, you don't understand me - this equine has clearly been beaten beyond the bounds of it's earthly existence. However, I am in control of the footer of the list, so I win :-p . -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.12 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpE5I26q1dy3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return: choose language)
Hallo ?, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 02:40:11 +0600GMT (3-4-2005, 22:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: A There is nothing in Russian!!! A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A _ A TheBat 3.0.9.12 Return Windows XP 5 Service Pack 2 2600 A A Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out ?. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Dogmatism: Puppyism come to its full growth. The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpiWoheRBIs7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
On Sun 3-Apr-05 5:07pm -0600, Allie Martin wrote: BTW, is is very easy in TB! to just look at your IMAP emails. Use a View Mode filtering for IMAP in the subject. Not all IMAP related messages contain 'IMAP' in the subject. :) In View Mode you can also filter on Text. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Attention Moderators
On Sun 3-Apr-05 5:12pm -0600, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: @3-Apr-2005, 16:00 -0500 (03-Apr 22:00 UK time) Bill McCarthy [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: BM Dailies are also pre-betas - Incorrect. Dailies are interim builds of betas, pre-betas and pre-release versions alike. Interim, that's all - not pre-anything. And they are not being produced right now either. Call them whatever you like. I like to call these interim builds pre-betas - they contain fixes and updates which will usually show up in the next beta. Here are the last 3 daily descriptions from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/daily.txt 29.03.2005 [-] Other : Shift+Reply button works [-] Other : sometimes incorrect message follow [-] UI: folder view has Next/Prev buttons [-] Other : AV if SmartPad is opened on program shutdown [-] Other : Tray icon problems [-] Minor : Overwrite/Insert is disabled in HTML editor, HTML specific actions added to Format menu 28.03.2005 [*] Other : QTemplates have editable shortcuts [-] Other : Sometimes AV on viewing messages with PNG [-] ABook : auto QSearch, minor fixes [*] Editor: New font/background color selection [-] Minor : AV in finder, 'Quote' and 'Quote With Prefix' 25.03.2005 [-] Editor: Problem with switching headers on and off in the message editor [*] Editor: Favourites menu in the message editor is back [*] UI: Watch Replies In [-] Other : Cascading AVs [-] IMAP : folder list optimizations [-] Minor : Next/Prev tab, Adv Address Search, Folder popup Okay, I can see that you'd rather argue about the words and not contribute to the real beta testing we are all doing. You are not doing any beta testing, you are alpha testing. Have fun. As I said before, I will wait for the next beta. You are hopelessly confused and refuse to believe your own eyes. This is the end of this thread for me. Nonetheless, I appreciate your participation with Ritlabs extended in-house testing. Hopefully Beta/11 will be worth the wait. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Customizing the Toolbar Again?
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:10:30 +0200, Charlene Ferrara wrote: BTW: Does anyone remember MaXxX? I do. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available: dispatch mail on server
I wish you, that, TBBETA! :) Don't working dispatch mail on server! Confirmed? -- :devil: Ave Satanas!, Baphomet [aka Izakaron(r)] e-mail: izakaron[dog]gmail.com WEB: www.hatebreeders.tk - Russian Dark Music Web-Zone Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available: dispatch mail on server
I wish you, that, TBBETA! :) Don't working dispatch mail on server! Confirmed? -- :devil: Ave Satanas!, Baphomet [aka Izakaron] e-mail: izakaron[dog]gmail.com WEB: www.hatebreeders.tk - Russian Dark Music Web-Zone Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
