Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing
Hello Kertész, Saturday, February 23, 2008, 11:35:39 AM, you wrote: > Hello Kyle, >> All the system cleaning I did did not improve TB performance (cleanup >> need to be done anyway). >> So the problem appears to have been with the data base but I am not >> totally sure that was the only issue or what the problem was. :'( >> Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. I hate not knowing what >> fixed my problem. > It is hard to say... If you think, I can connect to your computer thru > TeamViewer (www.teamviewer.com, you just have to install the client > module, that is free, I have the supporter module, completely safe > program), and take a quick look at it. What timeframe would be ok for > you? Thanks for the offer, but it is really a moot point now. I have completely started over with a new database and no residuals from the last install. All I did was re-import my address book from Outlook. I have been running TB and leaving my mail on the server then downloading/deleting with Outlook just to be safe. TB seems to be functioning normally now, but it did before as well. Somewhere along the line of installing new release versions, something must have corrupted the database and was not repairable. I will monitor this install, make very few changes and document the ones that I do, to see if it goes back to the "snail" mode it was in. If it goes south again, I certainly may take you up on your offer to assist. Thank you very much for taking the time to respond and offer assistance. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow Mail Processing
Hello BatGroup, I had previously reported that I had thought I had found my slow mail processing issue by removing a couple of add-in's that appeared to impact mail processing speed. For a short while mail processing returned to normal but quickly returned to the original state of making reading mail too slow (6-10 seconds from one msg to be able to select the next). I removed TB, cleaned the registry and reinstalled TB. Sadly, the same slow mail processing returned. I had preserved my previous mail database. I then un-installed TB including all data and address books, cleaned the registry again. I reinstalled TB using the msi from 4011 ( the latest msi I had) then applied the exe from 40145. As of right now, everything seems to be back to normal. Time will tell if it is fixed permanently. Is there a determent to updating from just replacing the exe files and not using the msi?? What is done in the msi installs that is not included by just replacing the exe file? All the system cleaning I did did not improve TB performance (cleanup need to be done anyway). So the problem appears to have been with the data base but I am not totally sure that was the only issue or what the problem was. :'( Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. I hate not knowing what fixed my problem. -- Best regards, Kyle TBVer/4.0.14.5 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow Mail Processing
Hi BatGroup, I think I have resolved the slow mail issue, at least it appears so. When cleaning up TB trying to determine why mail processing was so slow, I had had deleted two add-in's previously (MyMacros,Shell) but somehow they did not get removed. Going through the Options/Preferences settings one last time, I noted that the two add-in's were back. So I deleted them again, restarted TB and checked to make sure they were gone..they were. Checking mail, normal reading speed had returned, although receiving still appears slower that other clients (Outlook,Thunderbird,Eudora,etc). I'm not sure which of the two add-in's would be impacting mail processing so negatively but it appears one or both were the reason mail was so slow. I have the MsgCenter visible during receiving and will test to see if having inactive will speed up the process. What other options impacts receiving and posting mail to the folders and subsequent reading?? I think I can put this one away now...:'( Thanks for all the suggestions and help from everyone who responded... -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.14.2 Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing
Hello Stuart, Monday, February 18, 2008, 10:23:22 PM, you wrote: SC> Hello Kyle, SC> Monday, February 18, 2008, 8:59:36 PM, you wrote: >> Well, I just do not know what else to do. I have run Maintenance on all of >> TheBat mail folders, Defraged my >> drives, Run chkdsk on all drives, Defragged and padded the MFT, and still no >> joy. Downloading the mail takes >> too long, once mail is processed, reading each message takes between 6-10 >> seconds from >> the time I select the msg until I am able to switch to a new message. As a >> last resort, I will delete the >> program, clean the registry and reinstall the program to see if that makes a >> difference. SC> Are you using a spam checker? I use Bitdefender but AV is turned off for TB. Also have no TB plugins for TB -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow Mail Processing
Hi BatGroup, Well, I just do not know what else to do. I have run Maintenance on all of TheBat mail folders, Defraged my drives, Run chkdsk on all drives, Defragged and padded the MFT, and still no joy. Downloading the mail takes too long, once mail is processed, reading each message takes between 6-10 seconds from the time I select the msg until I am able to switch to a new message. As a last resort, I will delete the program, clean the registry and reinstall the program to see if that makes a difference. If that does not work, then deep six for me. -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.14.2 Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[3]: Moving Emails Issue
I have already been through the Maint center and ran it on all the folders. It did not seem to make a difference. I am going to take a look at XP from a systems view (MFT,Chkdsk,etc) to see if there is something up there. If not, I am truly at a loss as to why TB is so slow processing the mail. I will also delete any filters and see if that makes a difference. The fact that other mailers work fine and at light speed(fast) when reading the mail, points to something amiss with TB. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else, please let me know. Any and all appreciated. Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NetVicious Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:21 PM To: Kyle Goodnight Subject: Re[3]: Moving Emails Issue domingo, 17 feb 2008 at 03:39, it seems you wrote: > TB seems to download the mail, do an import,then delete the > mail on the server. The incoming folder increments as the delete > count progresses through the received mail. > After mail is received, it seems to take 6-10 seconds to mark the email read > and move > to the next msg. I did select some coloring for the mail, I wonder > if coloring the mail could be causing > problems, seems unlikely, but that is the only change I have made > other than updating the releases as they > come out. This is weird. Try to do Folder / Maintenance Centre Click "Select All" Select "Check ...", "Purge ..." , "Compres ..." It seems your base it's not ok. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.0.14.2 Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Moving Emails Issue
I as well, but there lies the challenge. I will find it, one way or another. It has to be some configuration issue or something I have set inadvertently (although I would expect to be able to find a setting that would impact receiving mail. It has to be Filters, in line options, or something) and I did not realize the impact at the time while learning the functionality of the program. If no joy soon, I will be removing the program, cleaning the registry, and starting over with a clean install, implementing changes in a documented controlled posture unless you have a suggestion for a better approach. I have been watching your responses to issues posted to the beta group and like the verbiage and tact you use which, IMHO, is that of a seasoned professional. Just the facts...pure and simple.. Appreciate your help and suggestions. Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAU Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:06 AM To: Kyle Goodnight Subject: Re: Moving Emails Issue Hello Kyle, > I have also turned off Bitdefender virus pgm but no difference there either. I was going to ask you about anti-virus programs. I have run out of ideas for the moment. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Moving Emails Issue
No, This is POP, I do not use IMAP as it is not available to me with my current ISP. I am using Outlook now as TB has become so slow in processing The mail I had to switch just to be able to answer this. This is really weird as everything else (apps) seems to be working normally. I even upped the priority of TB just to see if it made a difference and it did not. I compressed the mail folders, no improvement. I rebooted after stopping all other Pgms (msconfig), no difference. Something is impacting the processing and I just do not see what it is as yet. I am running a dual core Intel 3.1 ghz with 2gb mem so I don’t think it is hardware. I have also turned off Bitdefender virus pgm but no difference there either. The only thing I can think of to do is to go back version by version and see if I can see just where this started but that may not work if it is an alternation that would not be impacted by reversion. Any ideas??? Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAU Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:11 AM To: Kyle Goodnight Subject: Re: Moving Emails Issue Hello Kyle, M>> Not here. Does it also happen if you do a 'Move to Folder..' (Ctrl+V)? > > > Yes it does. I can select/Drag/Drop and it moves very slow, same with > MoveToFolder. I am at a loss to > determine what is going on. I brought up Outlook 2007, processed some > incoming mail. Outlook was just about > instantaneous, Much faster at receiving the mail. TB seems to > download the mail, do an import,then delete the > mail on the server. The incoming folder increments as the delete > count progresses through the received mail. > > After mail is received, it seems to take 6-10 seconds to mark the email read > and move > to the next msg. I did select some coloring for the mail, I wonder > if coloring the mail could be causing > problems, seems unlikely, but that is the only change I have made > other than updating the releases as they > come out. This is weird. Are you talking about an IMAP account? If so, I can't be of any help as I don't have/use any IMAP accounts myself. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving Emails Issue
Hello MAU, Saturday, February 16, 2008, 8:55:34 AM, you wrote: M> Hello Kyle, >> Anyone else seeing this issue?? M> Not here. Does it also happen if you do a 'Move to Folder..' (Ctrl+V)? Yes it does. I can select/Drag/Drop and it moves very slow, same with MoveToFolder. I am at a loss to determine what is going on. I brought up Outlook 2007, processed some incoming mail. Outlook was just about instantaneous, Much faster at receiving the mail. TB seems to download the mail, do an import,then delete the mail on the server. The incoming folder increments as the delete count progresses through the received mail. After mail is received, it seems to take 6-10 seconds to mark the email read and move to the next msg. I did select some coloring for the mail, I wonder if coloring the mail could be causing problems, seems unlikely, but that is the only change I have made other than updating the releases as they come out. This is weird. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving Emails Issue
Hi BatGroup, I have been moving read mail from my BatBeta folder to a "read Mail" folder set up by month. However, when dragging hightlited emails to the archive folder, TB seems start the process then goes "not responding". It happens when moving one email or a group. This used to work back in 4009 or there bouts'. Anyone else seeing this issue?? -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.14.2 Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB Wiki
Hello Rick, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 6:04:30 PM, you wrote: >> Hello MAU, >> Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 10:10:03 AM, you wrote: M>>> Hello Graham, >> Gottcha..I started in 1974 on a Sigma 9 by xerox. I had 64k of main >> storage and all apps were written as >> overlays. You had to write your own drivers and handlers for >> tape,disk,and the printer. That was programming! >> Now programming is the ability to select and configure options. jaj Am I >> Trouted?? RG> You are right. I think you should be touted, not trouted RG> [ouch! sorry - couldn't resist] :)) :oops: Don't type with a beer in your hand, also, can't count correctly, 1968 is well before 1974...dauhhh! -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB Wiki
Hello MAU, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 10:10:03 AM, you wrote: M> Hello Graham, M> >> Because of my computer background I have a desire to understand things >> and like to start at the beginning (programming is not forgiving when >> it comes to guessing). M> I know what you mean, I started working with computers in 1968. Gottcha..I started in 1974 on a Sigma 9 by xerox. I had 64k of main storage and all apps were written as overlays. You had to write your own drivers and handlers for tape,disk,and the printer. That was programming! Now programming is the ability to select and configure options. jaj Am I Trouted?? -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread View of Email
Hello Martin, Saturday, February 9, 2008, 1:04:43 PM, you wrote: MS> Hello Kyle, MS> Saturday, February 9, 2008, 6:48:46 PM, you wrote: >> For example, I send a message to the bat group and receive several >> responses. Now, my original message is pushed down and the >> responders reply is on top of mine and so on. Is there a way to have >> my original message show as the top level and all responders show up under >> my original post? MS> Did you try to go to Menu "View / View Threads by" and choose MS> "Reference" (or press Alt-1). When doing so the result should be what MS> you are looking for. Bingo! Thanks, for pointing that out, Exactly what I wanted. Joy is now here! -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
Hello Henk, Saturday, February 9, 2008, 1:59:45 PM, you wrote: HMdB> On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, at 12:19:20 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:19 where I HMdB> live) Kyle Goodnight wrote: >> Given the pcwise/thebat website is broken and no one is available (or >> knows) how to fix the disfunction, is there an alternate way to get >> ones photo in the gallery? I have sent my photo to the help address >> indicated in the "create new ID" screen but got no response. Is this >> a dead end and only the photos that are there now are the ones that >> can be displayed?? Seems a shame, it is a nice feature to have. :( HMdB> I did not experience any problem(s) loggin to: HMdB> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ HMdB> some minutes ago... Logging in to the site is not the problem, I can do that. The problem is you cannot create a new account. I have tried several times. I have keyed in my account info, clicked "submit" and it goes into lala land and never returns. Then you can try logging in to the account with the info just submitted and am told account does not exist. Log back on the the site and try to create the same logon data you just used and you do get a message that the user Id is already in use. So, possibility the new account info is getting recorded but not updated properly so that a photo can be uploaded. Something is rotten somewhere. :-/ I agree, This feature should be supported and maintained by RIT so that it will work properly. It is a nice feature. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thread View of Email
Hi Batties, I have been trying to figure out how to display my received email in a threaded view(subject) in date/time generated order but so far no joy. For example, I send a message to the bat group and receive several responses. Now, my original message is pushed down and the responders reply is on top of mine and so on. Is there a way to have my original message show as the top level and all responders show up under my original post? IMHO, it would make reading threaded messages much more logical and easier to follow. -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.11 Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rogue Photos
Hi Batties, Given the pcwise/thebat website is broken and no one is available (or knows) how to fix the disfunction, is there an alternate way to get ones photo in the gallery? I have sent my photo to the help address indicated in the "create new ID" screen but got no response. Is this a dead end and only the photos that are there now are the ones that can be displayed?? Seems a shame, it is a nice feature to have. :( -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.11 Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.7 links don't work
Hello Peter, Thursday, February 7, 2008, 8:56:08 PM, you wrote: PK> Hello TBBETA, PK> When I have an attachment in Word or a link to a Web site such as PK> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-7.msi it PK> will wait and wait and nothing. According to task manager Bat is not PK> responding. PK> Any idea? I did not found a place in Bat for to link. I just tried a test email with a link word defined and it worked perfectly. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delay Reading Messages
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 6:56:52 PM, you wrote: SC> Hello Kyle, SC> Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 5:12:35 PM, you wrote: KG>> After receiving mail and switching to filter processed group of KG>> messages, it takes about 6-10 seconds to get the preview pane to KG>> show the message and about the same amount of time to switch to KG>> the next message or another folder. Anyone else have this issue? KG>> I have switched to another client(then switched back to TB) and no KG>> delay in reading the mail or switching to another mail folder. So KG>> it has to be something within TB internally that I may have set KG>> incorrectly, or is this a processing issue with TB? SC> Is this IMAP? Nope, POP3.. :'( -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delay Reading Messages
Hi BatGroup After receiving mail and switching to filter processed group of messages, it takes about 6-10 seconds to get the preview pane to show the message and about the same amount of time to switch to the next message or another folder. Anyone else have this issue? I have switched to another client(then switched back to TB) and no delay in reading the mail or switching to another mail folder. So it has to be something within TB internally that I may have set incorrectly, or is this a processing issue with TB? Thanks -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.0.22 Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is Happening??
Hello Gleason, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 10:44:12 AM, you wrote: GP> Great, I cut my teeth on Assembler too. But things have changed a GP> lot since then. At one time it was not a large matter to slap GP> together a DOS based pop email client that only did a few things. GP> We aren't doing any metrics. I suspect that what will happen over GP> the next several months is that with out help, TB will come to a GP> level of stability where it can be called a beta, and then testing GP> can be more like you describe. GP> I think the eseential thing to notice here was that, for a long time, GP> Rit made no new test releases, and people complained. We want to be GP> included in what is happening. So, Rit decided to start releasing GP> alphas. Now people complain that what we are getting is not up to GP> our personal standard of what is testable. Would it feel better if GP> Rit called them pre-alphas? Or should they go back to not making any GP> more releases until they have a real beta for us? Ok, sounds like this is going exactly where I hoped it would not. I was reluctant to make the comments and probably should have kept my mouth shut. I did not intend to start a flame thread on this topic. I was simply trying to get a handle on the best approach to take, not start a word war. Sure things have changed, but only in the tools available to do the same thing. Logic is logic, technique is technique no matter what you want to call it. Eveyone has their own way of doing things, some work better than others and some not at all. Whatever RIT wants to do with the program is their business and theirs alone. Sorry to muddy the water on this, I will keep quite. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is Happening??
Hello Gleason, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 12:06:19 AM, you wrote: GP> Kyle, GP> GP>> The unhappy truth of programming is that functions are interrelated GP>> in ways that often baffle non-programmers. Is it necessary for a working GP>> function to no longer work simply because some change has been made? GP>> Such things do often happen. Guess I should have offered more credentials before speaking about programming/debug techniques to qualify my concerns. I am a retired IS professional who was a MCSE, and retired as a fully qualifed IBM Systems Programmer. I started in programming long before the PC was even a glimmer on the personal horizon as an assembler programmer. I worked on most of the Mini-computers of that era before entering the mainframe arena. I worked on development progjects like "sequential processing delivery" for Arpanet (what is now referred to as "The Internet"). I built my own 8080 personal computer, etiched my own motherboard for it (it worked!) and coded assembler routines(drivers) for that PC. I have programmed in many languages that most of you probably have never heard of or only read about in history books. (Algol,Lobol,Cobol,Fortan,Pascal,C,C++,etc) I have paid my dues and know a bit about how successful program development works. I understand the risks of using a development system, but as I stated before, even with a deveopment effort, there has to be structure to deveopment or you end up shooting yourself in the foot too many times (been there, done that). My point here is that to effectivey assist in deveopment, there needs(has to be) a base line of stability (regression style never works well) so that testers can effectively test new code paths. If the base changes with each feature inclusion, where is the base for metrics? Structure breeds structure. Take Open Source Programming as an example. With each OS project, there is a base line that everyone has to respect, deveopment is modular and adaptable. Where would linux be now if with every update the kernel was not kept static? Again, I am simply trying to understand the methodology of development and try to be a positive contributor to the deveopment. Right now, I can't see how to help as I don't know from one release to the next if the things that worked will still be working so that i can relate stability to instability. The core users here are positive, friendly and seem to know the product well. What say you fellows? Am I way off base here? Again, these comments are intended to be positive and constructive, I mean no harm and only wish to be of assistance. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is Happening??
Hi Beta Group, I mean no disrespect, malace, or criticisim what so ever, just to set the tone. I am just having a terrible time trying to figure out how to go about checking the pogram for functionality as each version is released. As each of these new versions are released, something that worked previously now doesn't. As new features are implemented, other stable features either go away or no longer work. I had hoped to help with the debug testing but so far, I have not been able to get a grasp on where/how/what or when to check. Is the purpose of the beta group to simply tell the authors what they have broken that worked before, or is the intent to effectively sectionaly test the product and provide feed back on results? In order to progressively test a product, a base line of functionality has to be established with a completely functional stable product. Then as each each feature is implemented, it's fuctionality is tested. If it breaks a stable function, that is fixed before anything else is implemented in order to update a stable base. If the development is distributed to groups or individuals, the remote team must adhear to the base line product, not changing any base line code that would impact some other group with their update. How is TB being developed? Is it a central staff, distrbuted or some other structure?? I like the functionaly(intended) behind TB but it is very difficult to be objective when one has no idea what is coming done the pike. Is there a priority hit list that the authors use to make changes or is it totally at their discression? Agan, It is not my intent to be insulting or say I can do it better. I am just trying to determine if I should continue using TB on a daily basis as my client or move to something more stable and watch for a notice that TB has has been released. I understand what an Alpha is and it's intended purpose but the releases really confuse me when trying to figure out development structure. -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.0.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.15 (ALPHA)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:39:59 PM, you wrote: MM> The Bat! 4.0.0.15 (ALPHA) is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40015.rar Confirmed, Up and Running -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters Question
Hi Beta Group, When processing incoming mail, how much of a processing delay does a filter have as far as getting mail from the ISP? Is the process post receiving or during? What I am trying to determine is, if getting the mail from the ISP would be faster if I did not filter the incoming mail real time but process from another group after mail is brought in from the ISP. -- Kyle TheBat! 4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "%Set" Commands for Editor
MM> MM> from help file: MM> MM> SETEDITOR="n" Sets the current editor mode MM> MM> Possible values for n: MM> 1 - Plain text Microed MM> 2 - Plain text Windows editor MM> 3 - HTML / Plain MM> 4 - HTML only OhmyGosh...I was looking for %seteditor and search did not turn up anything...Shudda known... Tks -- Kyle v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"%Set" Commands for Editor
I am using "%seteditor="1" in the address book for my entry for TB beta group (info provided by a user). Since MicroEd has problems with spaces, I want to set it to Windows Editor. I assumed the index order was according to the "message format" in Options but does not appear that is correct. Where may I find reference on the options for "%set". Does not seem to be a help reference or on "silverstone" as well? -- Kyle "Enjoy What IS before what IS...Isn't" v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: xRogue Gallery
JF> JF> That didn't work for me, i gave it up about 6-12 Months JF> ago either i found the idea well thought out. JF> And i love to see the people "on the other side" Nor for I. Trying to create an account does not complete. It just sits there and finally times out in the browser. I was able to get X-Rogue to work for TB but so far no Joy trying to add my photo to the gallery. Either the sysop is asleep at the wheel or the program no longer functions properly. I sent him an email about the issue but it is anyone's guess if I get a reply. -- Kyle v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: xRogue Gallery
JF> JF> That didn't work for me, i gave it up about 6-12 Months JF> ago either i found the idea well thought out. JF> And i love to see the people "on the other side" Nor for I. Trying to create an account does not complete. It just sits there and finally times out in the browser. I was able to get X-Rogue to work for TB but so far no Joy trying to add my photo to the gallery. Either the sysop is asleep at the wheel or the program no longer functions properly. I sent him an email about the issue but it is anyone's guess if I get a reply. -- Kyle v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
xRogue Gallery
Hi Bat Crew, I have downloaded the xRogue gallery and it is working fine on the messages. How does one add his own photo to the gallery that is downloaded by everyone or is that updated automatically by simply having it configured and working? Thanks -- Kyle "Enjoy What IS before what IS...Isn't" v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Questions on receiving mail
1. When downloading messages from my ISP, The msgs are downloaded, imported, then msgs are deleted. As msgs are being deleted, the msg count increases in the appropriate inbox folder. This process can take several minutes per mail box. Seems it should be faster to get mail. What impacts the inbound mail with respect to speed of processing? (filters, ect?) 2. When reading the mail after a download session and HTML links resolved and approved, switching from one message to another in the selected inbox folder seems to take 5-6 seconds before next msg can be selected. TB seems to be inhibited during this process then screen will flick and next msg can be read. Is this normal?? 3. What is RTV and PTV. Dont see any reference to the letters in the help file. -- Kyle "Enjoy What IS before what IS...Isn't" v4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV When trying to create new Folder in Primary Account
I get an AV when trying to create a new filter for a message in my primary account. It happens either way, trying to create the folder for the new message by right clicking the account and selecting "new" or in "specials" and using "create Filter" from the msg selected. If I am not mistaken, this worked previously. Av text" Access Violation at 008C3280 at read address 0270". Clicking ok brings up popup box saying "ancestor Panel1 not found". -- Kyle "Enjoy What IS before what IS...Isn't" v4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpellCheck Not working for me?
M>> But it is not for free, you owe me a beer ;-) Ok, Fair trade, Send me you preference and where I should ship it(Can or bottle?) -- Kyle v4.0.0.10 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpellCheck Not working for me?
Ok...then!!! I just copied the SSCE5532 file to the install directory, restarted TB and now there is joy! That worked!! I just did not notice the dll file included in the rar file as I have been just copying the bat exe file over. Thanks for the help. That is one of the features of TB that I like the most. The more experienced users are ready and willing to help us newbes get our feet on the ground. Soon maybe I will be able to offer help and suggestions to others as well. Thanks again -- Kyle v4.0.0.10 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SpellCheck Not working for me?
I have been trying to get spellcheck to work on newly created emails but nothing seems to work. I have Office 2007 installed and from what I have been able to glean from group talk, the dictionary from Office is being used. However, no amount of "fiddling" brings no joy for spellcheck. My deliberat mis spelled words are simply ignored. I have turned on/off the options in the Spell Checker tool bar and nothing seems to make any difference. Can someone shed some light on what may be wrong here. Is there something I have to invoke to get spell check to work?? -- Kyle "Enjoy What IS before what IS...Isn't" v4.0.0.10 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new spell checker is really bizzare here.
I have created several messages and do not see the spell checker working at all. I delibertly misspelled several words and there was no indication or flagging of the misspelled word. I do have Office 2007 installed and noted that word dictionaries installed with office are automatically used. I must have something set incorrectly somewhere??? maybe?? -- Kyle v4.0.0.9 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL manager
>> Is the URL Manger functionality covered in any of the help >> documentation? M> M> No, not yet. We are working with an ALPHA version, not even a Beta. I M> assume something will be included when the new version is actually M> released. M> M> M> -- M> Best regards, M> M> Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) M> Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Thanks for the reply. I am sure everything will be in it's proper place at the proper time. I must say that I am really impressed with the functionality of this client. Just reading the group list posts is an education in it's self. Thanks again. -- Kyle v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
URL manager
Ahh so, Now I see the "the Trees"! I have been using it all along and just did not pay attention to the caption of the focus window that was validating the URL links to display the HTML images. Is the URL Manger functionality covered in any of the help documentation? -- Kyle v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
If you would be so kind, please indicate where one accesses the "url manager". I do not see it in the preferences or anyplace else for that matter. Help index does not reference URL Manger. Thanks from newbe! -- Kyle v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: HTML use (was: Alpha 4007)
Hello Marck, Monday, January 7, 2008, 5:56:17 PM, you wrote: MDP> Dear Kyle, MDP> @7-Jan-2008, 17:44 -0500 (07-Jan 22:44 here) Kyle Goodnight [KG] in MDP> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: KG>> I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go KG>> about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) KG>> for new updates/releases for the Beta group?? MDP> MDP> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not MDP> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have MDP> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Kyle. MDP> )<)))'> MDP> Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of MDP> testing. While the merits of HTML are debatable, and have been MDP> discussed numerous times on the lists, the list rules prohibit HTML MDP> e-mail. You can easily automate this by using %SetEditor="1" in your MDP> list template. MDP> To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of MDP> private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you MDP> subscribed. MDP> Thank you. MDP> List format noted and template updated (I think/hope) for future posts. I did not notice "text only" in the list requirements and will attempt to be more observent in future posts to the list. Appreciate your kind response to the infraction. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Alpha 4007
Hello Rick, Monday, January 7, 2008, 6:11:47 PM, you wrote: RG> Hello Kyle RG> On Monday, January 7, 2008 you wrote: >> Hi >> I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go >> about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) for >> new updates/releases for the Beta group?? RG> Here ya go RG> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4007.rar Thanks for the link. I hope this reply is in the right format for the list. I missed the "plain Text" requirement in the list preview. Guess I better read more carefully. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alpha 4007
Hi I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) for new updates/releases for the Beta group?? -- Best regards, Kyle -- "Enjoy what is before what IS, Isn't" -- 1/7/2008 5:42 PM TheBat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature Inquiry
Hi BatGroup, Is there a calendar feature planned for 4.0 version or any time soon? I don't see this addressed anywhere(that I could find) and was curious if this is something on the "To Do" list for later. -- Best regards, Kyle 1/5/2008 8:46 AM TheBat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Just Joined - Have question on HTML processing
Hi BatGroup, Just joined and am getting reaquainted with The Bat. I purchaed the program some time ago and after a while, put it away due to HTML issues. Anyway the 4.0 release is really exciting and sees to be on the right track (for me). In looking at the 4006 release, I have an issue viewing HTML. When receiving a new msg that is HTML viewable, I allow the references to view the msg as HTML, they are accepted but the msg is not viewable as HTML until I shut down and restart Bat. After restart, the just processed msg seems to be completely HTML viewable. Is this a feature or some setting I have missed?? Funny thing is, not all msgs react this way, some are immediately viewable in HTML then others; only after restart. I have been looking for some common indicator but so far have seen nothing that would alert me to why... Any clues??? :'( -- Best regards, Kyle 1/4/2008 6:53 AM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
