Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available
Hello Alexander, On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 11:11:24 AM, you wrote re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available: ASK> Beta versions had those additional names in the past, too. Maybe ASK> "Pranayama" and "Rush" ring a bell? Not to me. Then again, I have not been involved in beta testing TB that long. Just awhile last year when I ran into a big mouse scrolling problem and then recently. I'm still curious what they mean - or is it a secret? :) -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available
Hello Alexander, On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 8:09:57 AM, you wrote re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available: >> So why name 'Forerunner'? ASK> Its the runner-up of version fore...four... September 1st is close. *eg* I have never seen a beta program (other than this) that changes its number/naming scheme during almost every release. It makes it very confusing! Since I have not received a clear answer, I will assume that the name "forerunner" is simply another arbitrary name. Please correct me if it means something else. Thanks! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available
Hello 9Val, On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 1:59:53 PM, you wrote re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available: 9> The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) is now available from: 9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ What is meant by "Forerunner"? Is it a special beta in some way? -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.60.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Vili, On Sunday, July 31, 2005, at 5:06:46 PM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: >> FYI, I didn't move it. This is where TB installed it on my system. V> That is what I said. That this is the new default dir (C:\Documents V> and Settings\User\Application Data\) Good. To me it really doesn't matter... as long as I know where it is (and it is where it's supposed to be - i.e. it is being handled properly. >> Note: I don't use BayesIt. V> Good for you. Me neither. Just cause trouble... 95% of spam can be V> filtered out by simple Kill filters. For me it's the delete key or I simply ignore it. Anything else seems to come with too much baggage. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Vili, On Sunday, July 31, 2005, at 4:52:17 PM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: V> :)) I was thinking about to suggest this directory... Yes, from v3 (or V> v2?) it is the default dir for mails. V> And sometimes it can also cause BayesIt to hang :((( I like Program V> files/The Bat! better. FYI, I didn't move it. This is where TB installed it on my system. Note: I don't use BayesIt. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Roger, On Sunday, July 31, 2005, at 2:12:50 PM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: RP> I have XP pro as well. I had not realised that this was a hidden RP> folder and did not realise that the search did not cover all files. RP> Changing the 'advanced' setting solved the problem and the search does RP> now find tbuser.def. I've also now set up a short-cut to the file so RP> any future editing or checking will be very easy. I did not realize this as well or I would have mentioned it. Then again, I don't use Explorer to search. I use the search engine in Directory Opus which found the file when I searched for it. (I didn't know where it was when I went looking for it last week either). -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Greg, On Sunday, July 31, 2005, at 10:21:25 AM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: GS> I just checked and tbuser.def is now located in GS> the mail directory. 2 things: It all depends on the OS you are running. I am running XP Pro and mine is located in: C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\The Bat!\tbuser.DEF There is no tbuser.def in: C:\Program Files\The Bat! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Roger, On Sunday, July 31, 2005, at 9:39:02 AM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: RP> Yes! I have just checked again but still no new .def What version of Windows XP are you using (home or Pro). It determines where things are stored (as Mary and I discussed recently in this forum). -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Roger, On Sunday, July 31, 2005, at 2:56:42 AM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: RP> My setup here does not generate a new tbuser.def file when I RP> delete, or rename, the old one and then customise. Have you any idea why? Just to be sure are you deleting the old one with TB closed? If so, it should create a new one when you start TB. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Vili, On Saturday, July 30, 2005, at 1:25:09 PM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: V> This .def file is not yet the standard of standards :)) Please correct me if I am wrong, but the problems with tbuser.def seem to have been introduced by the adding of the new interface. By going to a clean tbuser.def, TB seems to have speeded up again. Then again, I installed the new release at about the same time. Hard to tell when you are changing so many variables! I hope this added info. helps in some way. All seems to be working fine right now! (I hope I didn't just jinx myself). -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Hello Vili, On Saturday, July 30, 2005, at 1:11:40 PM, you wrote re: More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10: V> Check the mail list's popup menu, also. F9 is there, too, for source V> view. Change that to F11, too. Wow that was a quick reply! That did the trick. Thanks! Perhaps I was causing corruption of the tbuser.def by having this conflict, re: in blanked out menus. If that is the case, then it should probably be error checked for that (rather than causing a conflict (or corruption). As I said, since I created a new one a few days, the problem has not returned. However, it took me a couple of tries. This all transpired under 3.51.10. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
More issues regarding shortcuts in 3.51.10
Over the past several weeks, we have discussed problems and changes regarding the tbuser.def file and shortcuts. I had a problem where the shortcuts were getting lost when trying a new beta executable. As we discussed, this issue was addressed in the last beta. However, now when I try to add shortcuts, sometimes the result is that I wipe out additional menu items and have to reset and start over. After starting with a fresh tbuser.def the last time a couple of days ago (by deleting and allowing the system to recreate), it seems to be working fine. However, I have set F9 to Tools, Send & Check for All and changing Specials, View Source to F11. Now the problem is that F9 only work if I have a folder selected, not if I have a specific mail item selected. Then, it brings up View Source. Some how it is remembering what it is set to. I cannot see any other references to F9 withing the tbuser.def. I am afraid that the issues with tbuser.def have not been totally resolved. Please let me know if I am overlooking someting -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Marek, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 2:15:26 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: >> What does this part of your explanation do? MM> removes unused "Wizards" items from main menu "Tools", TB displays MM> what it finds in tbuser.def or in def file included in thebat.exe. I guess I didn't follow that because I don't recall the Wizards. Thanks! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Marek,
On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 1:40:44 PM, you wrote
re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat:
MM> - delete part from tbuser.def manually:
MM> close TB
MM> open tbuser.def
MM> find following part:
>>
>>container item [MailerForm].[mWizards]
>>{
>> item [MailerForm].[Wizards]
>>
>> item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards]
>>}
MM> delete it
What does this part of your explanation do?
Thanks!
--
Cheers!
Wayne Howard
Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10
Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for
Windows"
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www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction
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Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 1:11:17 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: TF> Probably. I see the same empty menu item as you. But I am not willing TF> to delete my tbuser.def file, because I don't know what I will have to TF> reconfigure. TF> What's the way out? I told you all I know about it. I am very much a novice using TB. Only recently did I start to dive in to some of the more advanced features. I did not have a lot of customization, so I simply deleted tbuser.def and allowed TB to recreate it upon restart. I then added the few configuration changes back. It's nice to have things working normally again! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello -=Curtis=-, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 7:38:38 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: C> AV's What is an "AV"? -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 7:11:56 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW> Anyway, thanks for helping to track down the problem, Wayne. I think JW> that there is a bug here that RL must fix, but I imagine that the bug JW> has already been reported in numerous places. So the only question JW> that remains is: When will RL bring back the wizards to this muggled JW> bat? It has. As I mentioned in my first post to you, see the following: this was fixed in the latest version (3.51.10) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't think the fix fixes tbuser.defs that are already corrupted/maligned. The fix prevents it from happening in the first place - or at least that's how I understand it. If I am wrong, gurus please speak up! :) -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 6:24:50 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW> Recreating the tbuser.def file resolves the issue, but how many JW> settings will I have to restore now? I seem to recall that a similar JW> problem was resolved once before without forcing users to recreate JW> their tbuser.def file. It all depends on how many you created. I am not aware of all that it contains. I also discovered that it stores the theme information. JW> Furthermore, how did my tbuser.def file get corrupted? Presumably JW> it happened when I tested OTFE by backing up and restoring in the JW> effort to migrate. So somewhere, there is a process in TB that is JW> corrupting this file. I am the wrong person to ask. I discovered this on my own, with some help from Mary. As far as it being corrupted, that is my speculation. It could very well be that it simply has outmoded or superfluous entries. Look at it in notepad. It contains a lot of information! According to the repair listing I just mentioned, it was not being updated properly, so it would make sense that there several users with tbuser.def files that are corrupted or otherwise problematic. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Wayne, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 5:14:08 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: WH> Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. WH> Then I could modify it as it normally should. Apparently somewhere WH> along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this explains a WH> part of the anomalies I was experiencing. I should also have said that you should backup your existing tbuser.def first. You will lose any modifications that you have made that are stored here. However, for me, remaking the few modifications I had was well worth it! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Wayne, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 5:14:08 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: WH> I had the same problem. As Mary Bull indicated, this was fixed in the WH> latest version (3.51.10) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], but WH> apparently (by my observation) some tbuuser.defs have become WH> corrupted. I will repeat what I just posted under the topic "RARed WH> betas reset Menu shortcuts" Further thought, I wonder if having a corrupted tbuser.def has anything to do with the memory leak problems some of user were experiencing! I noticed my shortcut modifications missing/blank menu items at about the same time that I noticed the "growing TB memory usage" problem. I will keep an eye on TB and see if it's memory footprint continues to grow now that I deleted my tbuser.def and started with a newly created one. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 4:05:30 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW> Mine is also not an edited Tools menu. Never did any customization. JW> But what I am missing is what used to be at the bottom and is still JW> visible as a ghostly remnant - the Wizards. See my attached gif. I had the same problem. As Mary Bull indicated, this was fixed in the latest version (3.51.10) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], but apparently (by my observation) some tbuuser.defs have become corrupted. I will repeat what I just posted under the topic "RARed betas reset Menu shortcuts": I tried to modify a few Menu shortcuts and I ended up with multiple blank spots in my menus. I tried several times with the same result after hitting reset on the menu bar. Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. Then I could modify it as it normally should. Apparently somewhere along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this explains a part of the anomalies I was experiencing. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RARed betas reset Menu shortcuts
Hello Mary, On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 6:04:36 PM, you wrote re: RARed betas reset Menu shortcuts: >> I noticed a few weeks ago that when I install a RAR archived beta and >> run it, that it puts my customized Menu shortcuts back to default. >> Anyone else notice this? MB> Yes, it was from tbuser.def not being conserved. Was reported and then MB> listed as fixed in 3.51.10. FYI: I tried to modify a few Menu shortcuts and I ended up with multiple blank spots in my menus. I tried several times with the same result after hitting reset on the menu bar. Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. Then I could modify as it normally should. Apparently somewhere along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this explains a part of the anomalies I was experiencing. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available
Hello Vili, On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 10:40:05 PM, you wrote re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available: >> Yes. You told something about Servant Salamander. V> That is a good software... It seems terribly basic to me. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RARed betas reset Menu shortcuts
Hello Mary, On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 6:04:36 PM, you wrote re: RARed betas reset Menu shortcuts: MB> It's nothing to do with the previous versions being in rar form. Yeah, I didn't think it did. I was just trying to find a way to describe what I was talking about (since I learned today that .msi files can also be beta). Mary, you spend as much time in these forums as I have lately! :) Thanks! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RARed betas reset Menu shortcuts
Hello tbbeta, I noticed a few weeks ago that when I install a RAR archived beta and run it, that it puts my customized Menu shortcuts back to default. Anyone else notice this? In my setup, I have changed my Tools, Send and Check for All to F9 so that it is consistent with the Outlook shortcut. Note: First, I had to change the View, Source menu it since it uses F9 by defualt. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I finally figured it out (was The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available)
Hello Mary, On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 4:09:56 PM, you wrote re: I finally figured it out (was The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available): MB> I am really, really rejoiced for you! Thanks for the great info in MB> this post! :thankyou: A big thank you to you and all who helped me with this!!! :) -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
I finally figured it out (was The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available)
Hello Wayne, On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 3:43:17 PM, you wrote re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available: WH> By installing the new .msi, TB now will delete message older than a WH> certain number of days off the server. WH> The maintenance utility is now deleting some messages (14). However, I WH> have it set to keep messages newer than 30 days, but there are many WH> that were kept as far back as May 1st (received and created May 1st). WH> Clearly, by installing a new .msi, something was reset. Reinstalling WH> the previous public release did not help. However, I am still left WH> with one problem: why won't it purge since the correct number of days. Both problems now seem to be fully resolved! I was missing the setting on the Account properties Mail Management deletion setting called "purge undread messages"! The combination of installing the .msi and changing this setting fixed the two main problems I was having!!! Yeh! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About 3.51 release
Hello Jay, On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 3:39:53 PM, you wrote re: About 3.51 release: JW> Out of curiosity, what process did RL use to determine that you had JW> received the approval from this body of beta testers for releasing JW> 3.51? I don't say that I ever considered this to be a reasonable JW> policy. I only ask because RL announced it as their policy, and I JW> would like to know how the policy works in practice. The overall policy perplexes me as well. Why would only some betas be placed on the beta page while others are not? 3.51.7, 3.51.9 and 3.51.10 were not. I have never understood the naming scheme. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available
Hello Wayne (replying to myself), On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 2:36:59 PM, you wrote re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available: WH> For me, the biggest issues are that: 1) TB will no longer delete WH> messages off the server. I am using Outlook Express to do this WH> every few days and 2) I can no longer delete/purge messages either WH> via the Maintenance utility or upon exit from TB. By installing the new .msi, TB now will delete message older than a certain number of days off the server. The maintenance utility is now deleting some messages (14). However, I have it set to keep messages newer than 30 days, but there are many that were kept as far back as May 1st (received and created May 1st). Clearly, by installing a new .msi, something was reset. Reinstalling the previous public release did not help. However, I am still left with one problem: why won't it purge since the correct number of days. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available
Hello Marek, On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 2:28:08 PM, you wrote re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available: >> And a lot of people getting more and more angry about new bugs and not >> working things. MM> for example? What is bigger issue for You? For me, the biggest issues are that: 1) TB will no longer delete messages off the server. I am using Outlook Express to do this every few days and 2) I can no longer delete/purge messages either via the Maintenance utility or upon exit from TB. What's not clear is if these are bugs or I have a corrupt installation. So far, there is no indication that anyone has been able to able to reproduce it although there have been several exit armories discussed here. In either case, I have no idea how to fix it. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.8 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Charlene, On Saturday, July 23, 2005, at 9:39:02 AM, you wrote re: What is TB doing after exiting?: CF> What if you CF> run a manual folder maintenance? Is there lots of stuff to be fixed in CF> maintenance or is the p&g job done at another time? It will not purge and compress in manual mode either, nor will it remove messages older than a certain date on the server. I think that there must be a registry setting that has become corrupt or does not exist. That is why I have not reported this a bug. As far as I know, I am the only one having this problem. The question is: how do I fix it (other than uninstalling and reinstalling)? I actually tried that, but my re-import broke it again. I really don't want to reconfigure everything unless I have to. I also thought that figuring out why might provide useful information in case this should happen again. By the way, my system clock is reporting the correct date/time. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.8 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Charlene, On Saturday, July 23, 2005, at 4:46:52 AM, you wrote re: What is TB doing after exiting?: CF> I don't know what has been changed from 3.518 to .9 but I don't see TB CF> keep on running after exit. I close TB, seconds later (usually less than CF> 1 and never more than 3 or 4 seconds) all purging and compressing is CF> done and it disappears from desktop and in TM at the same moment. I only wish I knew why my copy of TB no longer will purge and compress upon exit, even though I have it set to do so. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.8 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Folder-specific deletion is not working
Hello Stuart, On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 1:55:28 PM, you wrote re: Folder-specific deletion is not working: SC> Try checking On Exit/Remove old messages. (on the first screenshot) This has no effect either. The other strange thing is that TB will no longer delete messages left on the server. I have it set for 3 days and messages have not be deleted for well over a week. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.8 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory leak?
Hello Vili, On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 6:57:46 AM, you wrote re: Memory leak?: V> As I learnt it, it came with new GUI, and Robo is working on it to fix V> it. I am fairly new to the list, I'm not sure what you mean. Is Robo one of the developers? In other words, if this issue is being looked into, then I am satisfied and I will stop posting about it. Thanks for your reply! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.7 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory leak?
WH> One more thing that I noticed on this topic: Open The Bat! and WH> close it without doing anything else. Do this several times. WH> Notice how the memory footprint increases significantly each WH> time!! I am now up to 67 MB after about 8 or 10 times! I substantially reduced the number of messages that I have stored in TB and while performance has improved, it is still using 47 MB. The amount of memory used still increases the longer it is running and the number of times I run it before I reboot to clear the memory. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.7 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Is the TBUDL list working?
Does anyone know if the regular TBUDL list is up and running? I have not received any messages since last evening, which is really uncommon. I tried to resubscribe and it says that I am already subscribed. Thanks! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.7 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Folder-specific deletion is not working
Hello Peter, On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 11:26:18 AM, you wrote re: Folder-specific deletion is not working: PM> Dunno. What does folder-specific deletion state? I just tried and it PM> seems to work as it should. Thanks for your reply. Here are screen shots of my settings. I have tried this with multiple versions of The Bat! (release and beta). http://home.rochester.rr.com/solara/Keep_Messages.gif http://home.rochester.rr.com/solara/Folder_specific_deletion.gif -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.7 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Folder-specific deletion is not working
Hello tbbeta, For some reason, I can no longer delete messages per folder using the folder-specific settings and Maintenance mode. I have it set to delete messages older than 180 days and have Use Folder-Secific deletion settings set on the Deletion tab. What am I missing? I have one folder with 27,000 messages (about 2 year's worth) and I set it to keep messages for 180 days. It says that there is "nothing to do". -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.6 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory leak?
Hello Clive, On Sunday, July 17, 2005, at 7:37:06 AM, you wrote re: Memory leak?: >> When I start TB!, it takes 38 MB RAM. After reading some mail and >> sending one out, it takes 46 MB. Sometimes it goes up to 57 MB and >> it becomes slow to CLOSE the mails and CLOSE TB! itself. Now I didnt >> use IMAP (removed temporarly), while I tried. CT> This is an old problem that's been discussed and reported here a CT> number of times. It's obviously low on Ritlab's list of priorities to CT> resolve (if they have one). One more thing that I noticed on this topic: Open The Bat! and close it without doing anything else. Do this several times. Notice how the memory footprint increases significantly each time!! I am now up to 67 MB after about 8 or 10 times! This is a significant problem! I would hope that it is HIGH on the list of priorities to fix. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.5 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory leak in the last version, I found it! :)))
Hello Roelof, On Saturday, July 16, 2005, at 4:28:46 PM, you wrote re: Memory leak in the last version, I found it! :))): RO> Well, I was using the AVG plug-in and BayesIt. Not here. Memory leak is occurring without it. Just checked, TB is using 63 MB. That's almost twice MS Access with a huge database loaded into memory! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.4 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory leak?
Hello Vili, On Saturday, July 16, 2005, at 3:21:26 PM, you wrote re: Memory leak?: V> When I start TB!, it takes 38 MB RAM. After reading some mail and V> sending one out, it takes 46 MB. Sometimes it goes up to 57 MB and it V> becomes slow to CLOSE the mails and CLOSE TB! itself. Now I V> didnt use V> IMAP (removed temporarly), while I tried. I have noticed my system slowing down substantially myself. I used Task Manager to monitor what you say and found the same. This is VERY disturbing. Hopefully this will be fixed soon! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.4 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Wayne, On Sunday, July 10, 2005, at 4:39:11 PM, you wrote re: Test: WH> Hello tbbeta, Sorry, I didn't mean to actually send this test. I was just configuring The Bat! and was testing how new messages would look. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Test
Hello tbbeta, -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Hello Zygmunt, On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 5:48:31 PM, you wrote re: Accessing Beta Site: ZW> Starting with a new subject you should select "New message" fumction instead ZW> of "Reply". Replies have information about the message to which they are ZW> referenced, this is the replied messages ID. Therefore original message and ZW> all replies make "thread" which can be displayed in message list (see ZW> attached picture for more details). Wow, this is embarrassing - especially since I am a moderator myself. Since I rarely read in thread mode myself, I guess I wouldn't notice. Thanks everyone for the clear and complete explanations! :) -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Hello Michael, On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 4:49:38 PM, you wrote re: Accessing Beta Site: MA> And one last thing. Had a real hard time trying to find your message. MA> I thought it was a new subject, but in fact I guess you replied and MA> didn't change the references. I finally found it under the "IMAP users: MA> auto disconnect string." Not sure what you mean by that. How do I "change references" and why should I? I also don't understand what you mean by having a hard time finding my message. How did you know to look for it if you did not see it in the first place? Please explain. I am very much a novice using The Bat! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Accessing Beta Site
Is anyone having trouble accessing the beta web site? I did no problem for several days and now I am getting an "incorrect login or password". I tried to reset the password and even tried creating a new account, twice, and cannot get on. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: "The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows" See the tutorial: "Getting to know Directory Opus": www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.04 Test release
Hello Stefan, On Monday, February 16, 2004, at 9:33:48 AM, you wrote re: 2.04 Test release: ST> Please send your comments, so we can pronounce the 2.04 version ST> officially released tomorrow. I installed and the 2nd time I ran it (1st time as a regular user under Windows 2000), it came up with a very simple dialogue box that said "!" then, when I clicked OK, it opened The Bat! fine. Note: the first time I ran this version was as an Administrator after I installed it and this dialogue did not occur. After the dialogue, all seems to be working fine. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.04 Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
