Re: 4.0 news
Hello Mark, MP I doubt if this falls under the definition of complete showstoppers, but MP the fact that TB doesn't remember which languages to use for spell checking MP is rather annoying. Hmm. Language selection is stored here. I've just added Norwegian and restarted TB! to continue writing this message. Norwegian is still in the list, so it's OK over here :-) -- Cheers! Stefan ...Black holes really suck... Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello MAU, M However, since you have changed the Preferences in .20 and there is now M no reference to *Plain Text* Editor/Viewer, I think that to avoid M confusion There is still a reference to PTV, actually. All references will be removed as soon as PTV will start displaying smileys... -- Cheers! Stefan ...You can tune a guitar, but you cant tuna fish. Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello all, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MP I doubt if this falls under the definition of complete showstoppers, but MP the fact that TB doesn't remember which languages to use for spell checking MP is rather annoying. Hmm. Language selection is stored here. I've just added Norwegian and restarted TB! to continue writing this message. Norwegian is still in the list, so it's OK over here :-) Stef, what about adding word to dictionary? and what about Ignore? Seems not working too :-( -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Microed showstoppers (was: Re: 4.0 news)
Hello Marek, MM In new Microed, long rows are not formatted automatically when MM replying, I have tested same message in 3.99 and it works there! You mean Smart Wrapping? It's working here. MM In menu, every dictionary of same language is represented by one row, I have Czech twice I see two Czech languages in the list: with CS and CZ abbreviations. I have no idea what CS stands for - I guess, it was introduced for some special dictionary ;-) MM Spellchecking: options for spell engines are not stored, confirmed MM in .20 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6714 WIP MM Spellchecking: Words with first national and capital chars are MM incorrectly underlined https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6709 It's not exactly TB! problem (Russian works OK here), but we'll try to find a workaround... MM Access Violation when editing message in Microed since 4.0.0.16 MM https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6698 I cannot reproduce it since yesterday's morning when I fixed one with similar symptoms. I guess, I need an animation here to see what happens exactly. MM BTW if You removed CSAPI, I suggest some changes to Options dialog: MM - please move SSCE to first position, I really do not see much sense to display Hunspell with all disabled options first... Done. MM - what about disabled options Suggest from user directories CSAPI allows it, SSCE does it automatically (i.e. it's not optional), don't know about HunSpell yet. MM and Ignore word composed of all roman numerals? It's an CSAPI option, as I see. -- Cheers! Stefan ...Love is blind, marriage is the eye-opener. Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Goncalo, GF It must be the shortest beta program ever! :) It was the longest *public* Alpha program, at least - in TB! history :-) -- Cheers! Stefan ...You can make it foolproof, but you can't make it damnfoolproof. Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0 news
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ST Hello Goncalo, GF It must be the shortest beta program ever! :) ST It was the longest *public* Alpha program, at least - in TB! history ST :-) Sure. And we give you credit for it. The issue here is that, IMHO, TB is not ready for release, it just got out of Alpha stage. Unless Alpha, Beta and Release really mean nothing about the development stages at RL. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Democrats in Congress: Oh no, not another calling frenzy Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hi Stefan, On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, at 01:04:19 [GMT +0200] (which was 0:04 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0 news' Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. I am getting an AV (using MicroEdit)when I press the Enter key at the end of a quoted line: -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Guten Tag Stefan Tanurkov, am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 um 00:04 schrieben Sie: Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. No, you must not keep with this, because if you do bad things to your customers, they won't ever rest as your customers. I tell you not to release this. The Time is to short to fix anything and test it. Better be delayed, than releasing a box of unusable shit. Think: This Version stands for your Business and you will ever from now on see this and everyone on the world. I wouldn't do that, but i can not force you to stop doing silly things :-( -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ST We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so ST hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete ST showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to ST fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop ST after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like ST that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release ST (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a ST better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. View modes aren't working correctly. My reference threaded view mode is in Fig1. when I switch to another folders and get back I get what is possible to see in Fig2. This is a normal subject thread at best. It's the same folder. If I switch to another view mode and get back the view mode is applied. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Eternity may well be composed of a very deep silence.attachment: fig1.GIFattachment: fig2.GIF Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Microed showstoppers (was: Re: 4.0 news)
Hello all, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MM In new Microed, long rows are not formatted automatically when MM replying, I have tested same message in 3.99 and it works there! You mean Smart Wrapping? It's working here. You have right, I am wondering, why it was unchecked... Are You using old Microed setting in registry? MM In menu, every dictionary of same language is represented by one row, MM I have Czech twice I see two Czech languages in the list: with CS and CZ abbreviations. I have no idea what CS stands for - I guess, it was introduced for some special dictionary ;-) maybe ssce and hunspell has different language id, must check. MM Spellchecking: Words with first national and capital chars are MM incorrectly underlined https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6709 It's not exactly TB! problem (Russian works OK here), but we'll try to find a workaround... Thank You! This is important to have this working. MM Access Violation when editing message in Microed since 4.0.0.16 MM https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6698 I cannot reproduce it since yesterday's morning when I fixed one with similar symptoms. I guess, I need an animation here to see what happens exactly. very strange. MM - what about disabled options Suggest from user directories CSAPI allows it, SSCE does it automatically (i.e. it's not optional), don't know about HunSpell yet. MM and Ignore word composed of all roman numerals? It's an CSAPI option, as I see. so disaapeared CSAPI tab in 4.0.0.20 is a bug? because I have Hunspell and ssce only now in options dialog. This is why I report these options unusable. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news)
Hello Marek, Thank you for the list of MicroEd showstoppers. We did not remove the CSAPI, since the Hunspell dictionaries are not yet mature for some languages. but CSAPI dissappeared from Options dialog. Not in my options dialog. However, I don't see an options tab for Hunspell. Probably they have made it so you only get tabs for the engines actually being used. In my case I am using two CSPI dictionaries a no Hunspell ones at the moment. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 9:24:23 AM, you wrote: ST Hmm. Language selection is stored here. I've just added Norwegian and ST restarted TB! to continue writing this message. Norwegian is still in ST the list, so it's OK over here :-) To avoid any possible conclusion: it's not the dictionaries that are disappearing, it is the selection of which languages to use for spell checking. Where should this setting be stored? In the registry or a file? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.20 (BETA) with MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 4:48:46) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: 4.0 news
Hello Bob, I am sure most or all people here understand your deadlines and admire what you do accomplish. Come on man, if we are not critical, who will be? One way of supporting RitLabs is to examine the alpha/beta very carefully! That is different than saying to the RitLabs team something very critical, like Why don't you fix bug #123B by midnight, you dumb klutz? I did not say that. I tried not to say that. One can be honest and yet also recognize that the RitLabs team members do have deadlines and are working very hard. N'est ce pas? All I said, if there are KNOWN issues, that should be fixed before release. There are known issues, we know that. It is not a stock market, so release can wait 2-3 days. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SSCE use problem (was: Re[2]: 4.0 news)
Hello Stefan, MP I doubt if this falls under the definition of complete showstoppers, but MP the fact that TB doesn't remember which languages to use for spell checking MP is rather annoying. Hmm. Language selection is stored here. I've just added Norwegian and restarted TB! to continue writing this message. Norwegian is still in the list, so it's OK over here :-) Maybe related to this: in Hungary, we have two SSCE directories. One where the words are stored correctly, with accents. And we built another one for old foxes :), without accents (when e.g. I started to use PCs, telnet could not handle accents, so I and a lot of folks type without accents.) We built this second SSCE directory with the ID of the Norwegian language. So, if you select Norwegian, you actually used the unaccented Hungarian dictionary. (99.9% of the people at us dont select to install your international pack, just install the core programs and install the English/Hungarian dictionaries they download from us.) Link to the unaccented dict. files: http://www.freeweb.hu/thebat/files/unaccent.rar Ssceno.tlx Ssceno2.clx So, it worked so far, now it does not work. The accented Hungarian SSCE still works. I write down some test word: kanal allat majus This should not be underlined. At me, they are underlined as incorrect words. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Mark, MP Where should this setting be stored? In the registry or a file? It's stored in the registry in my case. HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Editor - Languages = NB,RU,AM -- Cheers! Stefan ...No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:04:19 +0200 GMT (06/02/2008, 06:04 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so ST hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, ST please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. [...] ST ST Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. Here is my tomato, but I don't know whether it qualifies as a screaming problem or a general show stopper. Unread tab jumping folders: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 I can't use the new version in the office before this is fixed. So, for me personally, this is a show stopper. -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.19 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 2:25:15 PM, you wrote: MP Where should this setting be stored? In the registry or a file? ST It's stored in the registry in my case. ST HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Editor - Languages = NB,RU,AM Thanks, will see if I have such a registry key/value, later today. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.20 (BETA) with MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 5:28:11) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Guten Tag Peter Hampf, am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 um 12:12 schrieben Sie: First of all, I found this in ex_log.txt: v4.0.0.20 (BETA) xxx/x 06.02.2008 12:02:08 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item [mEdit].[msbAutoSpell] This first happened in .19 v4.0.0.19 (BETA) JENS/Administrator 05.02.2008 08:46:01 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item [mEdit].[msbPriority] After that, i found an AV in .19 v4.0.0.19 (BETA) JENS/Administrator 05.02.2008 16:27:26 RasMon:4 EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0045BEEB in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0008 And in .20 v4.0.0.19 (BETA) JENS/Administrator 06.02.2008 01:25:45 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item [mEdit].[msbPriority] v4.0.0.20 (BETA) JENS/Administrator 06.02.2008 01:32:06 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item [mEdit].[msbAutoSpell] And over all repeating since i remember (nobody can explain to me what this is) v4.0.0.20 (BETA) JENS/Administrator 06.02.2008 11:53:47 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation aborted -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
On Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 1:59:20 AM, Roger Phillips wrote: How can you possibly even consider issuing a new version with such a major item outstanding? Microsoft gets dinged all the time for putting stuff out when it isn't ready, but I've never gotten anything this rough from them. In my stomach, when I saw the MSI I knew this was coming but I kept telling myself I was to cynical and that this was so far the least ready for release of any of the times we howled before that it wasn't possible they were thinking this. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Guten Tag Stefan Tanurkov, am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 um 00:04 schrieben Sie: Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. No, you must not keep with this, because if you do bad things to your customers, they won't ever rest as your customers. I tell you not to release this. The Time is to short to fix anything and test it. Better be delayed, than releasing a box of unusable shit. Think: This Version stands for your Business and you will ever from now on see this and everyone on the world. I wouldn't do that, but i can not force you to stop doing silly things :-( I would agree - there is too much not working correctly. If you release 4.0.0.20 you risk having may potential customers download the trial then delete it forever since so many features don't work correctly -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0 news
mircoles, 6 feb 2008 at 10:05, it seems you wrote: I am getting an AV (using MicroEdit)when I press the Enter key at the end of a quoted line: Please, when you get this type of errors use CTRL+C and CTRL+V to copy and paste on a message the text on the window error. GIF or PNG are the preferred formats instead of JPG for program screenshots. -- /\ / Using The Bat! 4.0.0.22 Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) / \/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0 news
Hello All, Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. -- Best regards, Stefan ...All computers wait at the same speed. Current beta is 4.0.0.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 12:04:19 AM, you wrote: ST If you have complete showstoppers, ST please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. I doubt if this falls under the definition of complete showstoppers, but the fact that TB doesn't remember which languages to use for spell checking is rather annoying. For those in need of a spell checker, of course! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.19 (BETA) with MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 4:20:5) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.0.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, If you have complete showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. I didn't see any showstoppers in .19 and, so far, I don't see any in .20. However, since you have changed the Preferences in .20 and there is now no reference to *Plain Text* Editor/Viewer, I think that to avoid confusion, specially to new users, the option to select PTV in View menu and Message Pane context one should be eliminated (at least hidden). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Microed showstoppers (was: Re: 4.0 news)
Hello all, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. Microed showstoppers: In new Microed, long rows are not formatted automatically when replying, I have tested same message in 3.99 and it works there! In menu, every dictionary of same language is represented by one row, I have Czech twice Spellchecking: options for spell engines are not stored, confirmed in .20 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6714 Spellchecking: Words with first national and capital chars are incorrectly underlined https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6709 Access Violation when editing message in Microed since 4.0.0.16 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6698 BTW if You removed CSAPI, I suggest some changes to Options dialog: - please move SSCE to first position, I really do not see much sense to display Hunspell with all disabled options first... - what about disabled options Suggest from user directories and Ignore word composed of all roman numerals? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.19 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Microed showstoppers (was: Re: 4.0 news)
Hello Marek, BTW if You removed CSAPI, I suggest some changes to Options dialog: CSAPI is still here end working fine. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
miércoles, 6 feb 2008 at 00:04, it seems you wrote: Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. First one: Check this: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I tested it with 4.0.0.20 and it continues. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Hello All, Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. It must be the shortest beta program ever! :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias What Do You Expect To Find Down Here? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hi Stefan, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 4:04:19 PM, you wrote: Hello All, Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. I am sure most or all people here understand your deadlines and admire what you do accomplish. We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. I don't think throwing tomatoes would help you or Rit Labs or the customers. We will, I hope, support your work by giving good, balanced feedback as best we can here on the beta list. Thank you for the update. Bob Riley -- Using The Bat! 4.0.0.19 (BETA) (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, I think that to avoid confusion, specially to new users,... Also specially for new users, I think HELP should clearly explain that although new MicroEd uses the default profile, it is NOT a WYSIWYG editor. The recipient will get a plain text message with no font, colour or style attributes. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0 news)
Hello Marek, Wednesday, February 06, 2008, 2:37:17, you wrote: BTW if You removed CSAPI, Thank you for the list of MicroEd showstoppers. We did not remove the CSAPI, since the Hunspell dictionaries are not yet mature for some languages. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, Check one of MAU's email, e.g.: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I see this mail in the Message autoview with profile no. 1. If I open it in a separate window, it uses the default profile. This message has windows-1251 coding, which I did NOT included in profile no.1. They are still shown with profile no.1. in Message autoview. - Vili The Bat 3.99.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0 news
Hello Bob, Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. I am sure most or all people here understand your deadlines and admire what you do accomplish. Come on man, if we are not critical, who will be? This American style good job, good job will not move things forward. Ritlabs guys are tough, they can handle honesty. Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. I don't think throwing tomatoes would help you or Rit Labs or the customers. It is not about throwing tomatoes. It is about saying out if we think this is NOT a release version. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 4.0 news
Hi Kertész, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 9:35:38 PM, you wrote: I am sure most or all people here understand your deadlines and admire what you do accomplish. Come on man, if we are not critical, who will be? One way of supporting RitLabs is to examine the alpha/beta very carefully! That is different than saying to the RitLabs team something very critical, like Why don't you fix bug #123B by midnight, you dumb klutz? This American style good job, good job will not move things forward. Ritlabs guys are tough, they can handle honesty. Hey, you are not talking to George Bush, you know. He says good job even when his people do a bad job! One can be honest and yet also recognize that the RitLabs team members do have deadlines and are working very hard. N'est ce pas? Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. I don't think throwing tomatoes would help you or Rit Labs or the customers. It is not about throwing tomatoes. It is about saying out if we think this is NOT a release version. I agree with you completely! I must say, I enjoyed your note, really. -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news)
Hello all, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: BTW if You removed CSAPI, Thank you for the list of MicroEd showstoppers. We did not remove the CSAPI, since the Hunspell dictionaries are not yet mature for some languages. but CSAPI dissappeared from Options dialog. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
program showstoppers (was: Re: 4.0 news)
Hello all, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. program showstoppers (maybe not all of them are showstoppers for every user, but I see them very problematic and have reports for them): Administrator account is displayed when is User account logged https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6579 vcf/eml/msg file association problem https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4539 UTF8 messages displayed incorrectly https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6587 Ctrl+W on Existing Contact creates duplicate entry https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6576 Access Violation when are done changes in selected folders/accounts in Address History Preferences setting https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6578 Program asks for account passw, when is passw protected account opened and moved in account tree https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6653 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0 news)
Hello, Marek. but CSAPI dissappeared from Options dialog. Hmm... And what about macro? %LANGUAGE Does it work with hunspell ? -- VBR, Ivan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 1:04:19 AM, among other things, you wrote: ST We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so ST hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, ST please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. The good ST news (as usually) - we are not going to stop after the release, nobody ST goes off to holidays or anything like that, so the new Beta cycle starts ST immediately after the release (actually, the current one will just ST continue), so we will make a better 4.0.x release before we go to ST 4.1.x. ST ST Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. I installed: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_4-0-0-20-beta.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/intpack_4-0-0-20-beta.msi The spell check is now a total shambles. Up until now it has worked fine for me! 1. We cannot now *simply* add a word to the dictionaries if it cannot find a word which has been used. The 'add' button is blued out. 2. If one tries to use the 'add to dictionary' button at the bottom of the spellcheck window, the new window which appears does not display the word which one is trying to add but displays a totally irrelevant list of months of the year. 3. If one is using 'automatic checking' and does a 'right click' on a word underlined by the spell checker and chooses 'add to dictionary' nothing seems to happen. The word is not saved. Also the 'options' window is still totally greyed out. How can you possibly even consider issuing a new version with such a major item outstanding? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.0.20 (BETA) with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
