Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie,

On 14-05-2005 04:54, you [AM] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
AM When I had just changed to IMAP, it wasn't pretty transferring those
AM templates across so that I could get rid of one of my POP accounts.
AM A copy of all at once would have been nice.

Didn't there use to be a utility to help you doing that, copying
templates?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-14 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Great. Now we need that for Quick templates as well.
 
 Why not share them?
 
 ? share what?

The QTs. You can individually set them to be shared with other accounts
in the Options tab.

 When I had just changed to IMAP, it wasn't pretty transferring those
 templates across so that I could get rid of one of my POP accounts. A
 copy of all at once would have been nice.

I don't have an IMAP account to even test, but I would assume shared QTS
should be available also in IMAP accounts.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-14 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 5:15:03 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote:

 The QTs. You can individually set them to be shared with other accounts
 in the Options tab.

Oh. I see. :) This is what I did for some time.

However, I couldn't share all the time. if I planned to delete the
account which I was no longer using. In fact, I delayed deleting the
account since I knew it would take time and tedium to transfer the QT's.

 I don't have an IMAP account to even test, but I would assume shared QTS
 should be available also in IMAP accounts.

Yes.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-14 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Oh. I see. :) This is what I did for some time.
 
 However, I couldn't share all the time. if I planned to delete the
 account which I was no longer using. In fact, I delayed deleting the
 account since I knew it would take time and tedium to transfer the QT's.

Have you tried moving the ACCOUNT.QTN file from one account to another?
It should work.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-14 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 6:19:30 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote:

 Have you tried moving the ACCOUNT.QTN file from one account to another?
 It should work.

No, I had not, but I'll keep it in mind for future reference. :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
9Val,

On 12-05-2005 23:41, you [9] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

MSI installed fine, spell checker works (although, as others have
mentioned, US English is missing).

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread raymund
Hi Allie!
Or do you
mean that I should delete my precious TBBeta mails from the folder on
the server?
He means moving older messages to local folders.
That doesn't make much sense with IMAP, do it? The reason to use IMAP is 
that one can be sure, someone else makes the backup :-)


nearly 2 mails, but that doesn't pose any problems with
Thunderbird or the webmail interface of gmx.

ThunderBird may not have problems, but TB! seems to unless your 
connection is very quick, i.e., LAN speed. :)

Well, that's leads to the question: Is there an IMAP proxy somewhere out 
there? (Answers please also as private copy to me, as I'm away for three 
weeks now.)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Krzysztof Kudacik
Question  concerning  ver. Pro -- how can I activate encrypting of message
base?

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Re: RC9 [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available]

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Mary,

On 13-05-2005 00:50, you [MB] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MB Cookie now spelled correctly in Utilities/Insert. ;)

Now the only thing missing (which annoys me every time I see it - and
it's been like that for a while) is in Preferences:

(Left tree) Protection  Anti-Spam (and not Anti-spam).

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Maxim,

  A reminder of what Maxim Masiutin on TBBETA typed on:
  12 May 2005 at 00:42:32 GMT +0200

MM The PROFESSIONAL VERSION does already have the IntPack included.

 But selecting British English STILL shows as American English when
 selecting Spell Checker-Dictionaries.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Allie,

  A reminder of what Allie Martin on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 02:53:57 GMT +0200

AM Hats off. This one really works well so far and seems a keeper.

 IMAP?


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Neal,

  A reminder of what Neal Laugman on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 03:21:58 GMT +0200

NL IMAP is OK now too.

So should I stay with POP or go with IMAP again?

Now why does the Clash spring to mind after writing that?


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 08:28:39 GMT +0200

PF (although, as others have mentioned, US English is missing).

Your right, it is missing, how cool! Pity it still shows up as American
English even though British is selected.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Krzysztof,

  A reminder of what Krzysztof Kudacik on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 10:02:14 GMT +0200

KK Question  concerning  ver. Pro -- how can I activate encrypting of message
KK base?

 For OTFE you'll need to remove the RIT entries from the registry and then
 reinstall. The choose OTFE at the begging of the install procedure. There
 is no way to switch between the two from within the program.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Krzysztof Kudacik
2005-05-13|10:44  you wrote:

  For OTFE you'll need to remove the RIT entries from the registry and then
  reinstall.

Clearing  of  registry  is it enough? Or I have to also deinstall previous
version of TB! ?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Krzysztof,

  A reminder of what Krzysztof Kudacik on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 10:56:54 GMT +0200

KK Clearing  of  registry  is it enough? Or I have to also deinstall previous
KK version of TB! ?

 Clearing the registry was enough for me. With no registry entries there is
 nothing to tell the installation that TB! is already installed.

 You may have to start with a new message base though but I wouldn't swear
 to that.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, May 13, 2005 at 3:37:13 AM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom wrote:

  IMAP?

Yes. IMAP. No problems at all with an overnight run and picking up where
I left off etc.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

  IMAP?
 
 Yes. IMAP. No problems at all with an overnight run and picking up where
 I left off etc.

You mean you are satisfied with the way TB handles IMAP now? If so,
that's a really great achievement by RIT guys.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread David Elliott
Hello 9Val,

Thursday, May 12, 2005, 10:41:38 PM, you wrote:

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

MSI installer for Pro did not give language option on a custom install.

I don't need most languages, I don't want American because it is not
English, but I need UK english. My spelling is rubbish.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, May 13, 2005 at 1:49:01 AM [GMT -0500], Raymund wrote:

 He means moving older messages to local folders.

 That doesn't make much sense with IMAP, do it? The reason to use IMAP
 is that one can be sure, someone else makes the backup :-)

An archive can be safely stored away somewhere.

But I personally don't wish to archive away messages so quickly, so I
have folders containing thousands of messages.

With a fast connection, TB! is fine. It struggles with a slower
connection, so in that setting I use a different client.

 Well, that's leads to the question: Is there an IMAP proxy somewhere out
 there? (Answers please also as private copy to me, as I'm away for three
 weeks now.)

IMAP proxy? Not that I know of. What do you mean?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Krzysztof Kudacik
2005-05-13|11:26  you wrote:
  Clearing the registry was enough for me. With no registry entries there is
  nothing to tell the installation that TB! is already installed.

I've cleared the registry, start *msi installation, TB! gave me option
to 'new/repair/unistall' - I choose 'new' - program asks about
encryption, but it doesn't work -- no password to set and files are
not encrypted.

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Re: RC9 [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available]

2005-05-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Friday, May 13, 2005, 3:10 AM, you wrote:

 Now the only thing missing (which annoys me every time I see it - and
 it's been like that for a while) is in Preferences:

 (Left tree) Protection  Anti-Spam (and not Anti-spam).

Ah. For consistency in capitalization style with Anti-Virus in this
tree?

Then, do you think on the same tree, make it Editor Preferences (the
only other noun not capitalized here). Or is it only that the style of
Anti-Virus with its hyphenation should be matched by Anti-Spam,
which is also hyphenated?

These are nice questions. I used to deal with them all the time when I
used to be a book manuscript editor, lo these 55 years ago. :)

Sometimes there would be no example in either the house style-book or
in the current large dictionary, and I would just have to go with my
gut feeling.

Here, I tend to side with you, make Anti-spam consistent with
Anti-Virus. But to my eye, immediately preferences with its
lower-case p jumps out, and I would probably capitalize it, also.

In a list or a tree, I think it's largely a matter of personal taste
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Re: RC9 [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available]

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Mary,

On 13-05-2005 12:22, you [MB] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MB Here, I tend to side with you, make Anti-spam consistent with
MB Anti-Virus. But to my eye, immediately preferences with its
MB lower-case p jumps out, and I would probably capitalize it, also.

MB In a list or a tree, I think it's largely a matter of personal taste
MB and of consistency.

Actually, I don't care too much which way this goes as long as it's
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Allie Martin wrote:
Yes. IMAP. No problems at all with an overnight run and picking up where
I left off etc.
OK, I'll give it another go from scratch.
I like the look of this Thunderbird but... Well you know all the buts, 
I need not mention them all again.

I just created a reply and saved it to draft but it's not there and I 
can't find it, any idea's where it might be or why it don't show?  In 
Thunderbird that is.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, May 13, 2005 at 5:02:12 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote:

 You mean you are satisfied with the way TB handles IMAP now? If so,
 that's a really great achievement by RIT guys.

Since v2.x I've had struggles with not only lacking fundamental
features, but moreso, buggy features. Over time, some of the lacking
features have been implemented. However, up until now, there were
problems/glitches with basic operations in both my quick and slower
bandwidth environments. They still exist even with a my fairly slow
connection at work since I'm experiencing frequent disconnects while
browsing, which require manually initiated reconnections.

So, finally, I'm able to work smoothly enough with TB! at home with no
significant issues with currently implemented features. I can certainly
manage this way. The counts still flicker etc and there are pauses at
times with message body retrievals, but these are minor and certainly
tolerable. This is certainly an achievement in itself.

So my current hopes for the future:

Improving what's there already:

- curing the frequent disconnections that are associated with loss of
the ability to auto-connect. This happens with my slower connection
environment.

- improving how multiple connections are utilized. The loading of
message content isn't prioritized enough. IMAP folder message count is
done in the background as soon as it's initiated. The same should happen
for a message content request. Additionally, for multiple connections,
it would seem that using 2 connections works as well as using 4 or 6
since while watching the CC I see only two connections being used
concurrently.

- Importing of messages need to be copied from the cache to the
corresponding IMAP folder on the server. At the moment this doesn't
happen and once you sync the folder, the imported messages are deleted
from the cache since they aren't on the server.

New Stuff

- Incremental handling of messages on the server, i.e., being able to
browse a folder without the entire message list being downloaded to the
cache. I don't know if this one will be implemented, though it's a
powerful feature for IMAP bandwidth use efficiency. With such a model,
you can define how many messages for a folder are loaded when you first
select it for browsing. If you select 100, only the most recent 100
messages are loaded. You can imagine the advantage of this when you have
a folder with 20,000 messages and wish to see new messages in it while
reading from a location with a slow connection.

- The ability to display deleted messages in a special way and also
being able to toggle the delete status. The IMAP standard is that a
redline strike through is added in the message list.

- IMAP flags, especially that for Important. It would work across IMAP
clients.

- A true Draft folder and not the Outbox. The Outbox is a POP concept
that's not working well for IMAP.

- The sound notification responding only to unseen messages.

- more efficient and bandwidth-friendly filtering.

- better handling of multiple attachments in a single message.
Currently, if you wish to view one of the attachments, TB! has to first
retrieve all of them. I can't work like that at work.


So, even if TB! were to work smoothly at work, I still wouldn't use it
because of the attachments handling limitations, the inability to
load message lists incrementally, and the bandwidth dependent filtering.
These three aren't an issue at home where connection speeds buldoze over
them. :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Krzysztof Kudacik wrote:
I choose 'new' - program asks about
encryption, but it doesn't work -- no password to set and files are
not encrypted.
I can't help then. It asked if you want OTFE and last time I used it it 
worked OK.

Try making a backup of everything using TB's own internal backup 
facility then remove the reg entries, uninstall and try again from 
scratch. If that works use the backup you made. Everything should be 
back as it was except it'll be encrypted.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

snipped quite a bit
 So, even if TB! were to work smoothly at work, I still wouldn't use it
 because of the attachments handling limitations, the inability to
 load message lists incrementally, and the bandwidth dependent filtering.
 These three aren't an issue at home where connection speeds buldoze over
 them. :)

Thank you for your very good summary. I'm not an IMAP user and don't
expect to be in the near future. But I have always thought and agreed
that IMAP is an important and high priority issue for TB, so I'm glad it
is really progressing :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, May 13, 2005 at 5:41:23 AM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom wrote:

 OK, I'll give it another go from scratch.

You may well not be able to mirror my positive experience but you could
give it a go and see.

 I like the look of this Thunderbird but... Well you know all the buts,
 I need not mention them all again.

;) I know exactly what you mean. With some extensions, I had it working
not too badly at all. But then I demystified Mulberry and shortly
thereafter enjoyed some ThunderBird soup and curried ThunderBird. :)

 I just created a reply and saved it to draft but it's not there and I 
 can't find it, any idea's where it might be or why it don't show?  In 
 Thunderbird that is.

I can't recall that one and don't have ThunderBird installed any longer
to fiddle around. I'm pretty sure there's someone here who still has
ThunderBird installed and could help you.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Allie,

  A reminder of what Allie Martin on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 13:03:28 GMT +0200

 You may well not be able to mirror my positive experience but you could
 give it a go and see.

 I'm trying it again. This time I created a new account and didn't try
 dragging my existing folders over from my POP account. Just as with Tbird
 I didn't need to create any folders, they just appeared.

 I did have to copy my filters over though, one by one. It would be nice if
 you could copy the whole lot together rather than keep switching account.

 It seems to be working OK in as much as so far I only have one of each
 folder and not 15 :)

 But then I demystified Mulberry

I'll have to have a look at that as well. Trouble is I only normally play
with other clients when I'm bored, not out of necessity.

 I can't recall that one and don't have ThunderBird installed any longer
 to fiddle around

I'll just reply again with TB!

Just one thing bothers me. How do I sync TB with the server so that what's
deleted here is also deleted there? I had trouble with that yesterday and
it's one of those little niggles that concerns me.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Tony,

On 13-05-2005 13:17, you [TB] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
TB  I did have to copy my filters over though, one by one. It would be
TB  nice if you could copy the whole lot together rather than keep
TB  switching account.

I found this recently:

   Open Sorting Office
   Right click on Incoming mail
   Copy tree

... this should make the task more bearable.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony,

  A reminder of what Tony Boom on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 13:18:18 GMT +0200

  It seems to be working OK in as much as so far I only have one of each
  folder and not 15  

 I lied! I have two sent and two trash folders and can;t get rid of any?


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 13:23:05 GMT +0200

 ... this should make the task more bearable.

 I was going to ask about that. I did try Copy Tree but I got no option to
 paste it anywhere.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Tony,

On 13-05-2005 13:27, you [TB] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
TB  I was going to ask about that. I did try Copy Tree but I got no
TB  option to paste it anywhere.

Dang! You're right. Sorry about that.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony,

  A reminder of what Tony Boom on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 13:26:22 GMT +0200

  I lied! I have two sent and two trash folders and can;t get rid of any?

 I lied again, I restarted TB! and now they're gone. I'm also getting
 messages that won't display, just a screen saying No Message Loaded?

 I'm just learning IMAP. so where is the best place to talk about it, here,
 TBUDL or TBOT? I don't want to bore people as most of it isn't a beta
 issue... But then again never having used IMAP before I wouldn't know a
 bug from a banana :)


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, May 13, 2005 at 6:17:43 AM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom wrote:

 Just one thing bothers me. How do I sync TB with the server so that
 what's deleted here is also deleted there? I had trouble with that
 yesterday and it's one of those little niggles that concerns me.

In the IMAP fine tune option, enable the option to compress folders on
exiting.

In the account properties, go to the 'Delete' options and enable mark
as deleted. Do not use the Trash

Delete your messages in the folder. On exiting the folder, TB! should do
a compress and in so doing, delete the messages from the server.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

TB  I was going to ask about that. I did try Copy Tree but I got no
TB  option to paste it anywhere.
 
 Dang! You're right. Sorry about that.

You don't need a 'Paste tree' option, normal Paste will do. I just tried
it, I copied a tree from my Incoming filters and pasted it just fine in
my Replied ones.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 13-05-2005 13:50, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M You don't need a 'Paste tree' option, normal Paste will do. I just
M tried it, I copied a tree from my Incoming filters and pasted it just
M fine in my Replied ones.

OK, but we were talking about copying from one account to another, i.e.
a Paste in another account's Incoming filters.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 13:50:52 GMT +0200

 You don't need a 'Paste tree' option, normal Paste will do. I just tried
 it, I copied a tree from my Incoming filters and pasted it just fine in
 my Replied ones.

 I don't get the paste option at all, not even CTRL+V works. Did you cut
 and paste a single filter or more than one at a time?


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

M You don't need a 'Paste tree' option, normal Paste will do. I just
M tried it, I copied a tree from my Incoming filters and pasted it just
M fine in my Replied ones.
 
 OK, but we were talking about copying from one account to another, i.e.
 a Paste in another account's Incoming filters.

Works here just fine. Copy tree, change account on the dropdown list at
top of S.O. and paste in new account Incoming. Works fine.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Tony,

 You don't need a 'Paste tree' option, normal Paste will do. I just tried
 it, I copied a tree from my Incoming filters and pasted it just fine in
 my Replied ones.
 
  I don't get the paste option at all, not even CTRL+V works. Did you cut
  and paste a single filter or more than one at a time?

I _copied_ a full tree (one filter with several sub-filters) and pasted
it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 13-05-2005 14:17, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M Works here just fine. Copy tree, change account on the dropdown list
M at top of S.O. and paste in new account Incoming. Works fine.

Whoa! That does not work here. Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on
exactly what you do?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 13-05-2005 14:19, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I don't get the paste option at all, not even CTRL+V works. Did you
  cut and paste a single filter or more than one at a time?

M I _copied_ a full tree (one filter with several sub-filters) and pasted
M it.

Ahhh, there lies the heart of the matter.

We are talking about a filter tree (as in all filters under Incoming) in
one go and you are talking a sub-filter tree (filter with sub-filters).

Maybe Ritlabs should make that more clear that _this_ is what tree
means because as it is now, I guess people would interpret it as (any)
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Friday, May 13, 2005 it appears that MAU
wrote the following in regards to The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available:

M You don't need a 'Paste tree' option, normal Paste will do. I just tried
M it, I copied a tree from my Incoming filters and pasted it just fine in
M my Replied ones.

OK, then what/when should copy/paste tree work?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 14:20:08 GMT +0200

 I _copied_ a full tree (one filter with several sub-filters) and pasted
 it.

 We wasn't talking about a single filter with sub filters. We were talking
 about having to copy/paste multiple separate filters from one account to
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 14:23:19 GMT +0200

 Whoa! That does not work here. Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on
 exactly what you do?

 It does here with sub filters but not for copying multiple unrelated
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
Hi MAU,
  On 13/05/2005 02:17 PM +0200, you wrote:
Works here just fine. Copy tree, change account on the dropdown list
at top of S.O. and paste in new account Incoming. Works fine.
Great. Now we need that for Quick templates as well.
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Tony,

 Whoa! That does not work here. Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on
 exactly what you do?
 
  It does here with sub filters but not for copying multiple unrelated
  filters.

No, that can't be done because no multiple filter selection is allowed.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 Whoa! That does not work here. Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on
 exactly what you do?

It works for tree = 1 filter and sub-filters. That is what I have always
understood as tree here.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Great. Now we need that for Quick templates as well.

Why not share them?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 Maybe Ritlabs should make that more clear that _this_ is what tree
 means because as it is now, I guess people would interpret it as (any)
 tree.

And/or maybe disabling copy options if no filter is selected (i.e.
Incoming, or Replied, etc.,  container selected).

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 13-05-2005 15:59, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M It works for tree = 1 filter and sub-filters. That is what I have
M always understood as tree here.

Yes, and herein lies the difference. I understood tree as the whole
tree starting at the root, e.g. Incoming.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Tony,

  We wasn't talking about a single filter with sub filters.

I know now. No way to do it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Jan,

 OK, then what/when should copy/paste tree work?

As I have said in some other messages on this same thread, I always
understood that a filter tree was a filter and all its (possible)
sub-filter hierarchy no matter how deep it is.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 15:58:56 GMT +0200

 No, that can't be done because no multiple filter selection is allowed.

 I know it can't be done, that's why in my initial post I said It's a pity
 I couldn't copy them all at once I wasn't asking how to do it. It was
 peter that said it could but then realised it couldn't. It was at that
 point you said that you had managed it but you were talking about
 something completely different and we were all waiting in anticipation of
 how you managed it but quite clearly you didn't...

 Stop trying to confuse me, I'm confused enough here as it is :)


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread MAU
Hello Tony,

 It was at that point you said that you had managed it but you were
 talking about something completely different and we were all waiting
 in anticipation of how you managed it but quite clearly you didn't...


  Stop trying to confuse me, I'm confused enough here as it is :)

I always said I copied a _tree_, not the whole forest which is what you
wanted. _You_ were confusing me ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 16:23:48 GMT +0200

 I always said I copied a _tree_, not the whole forest which is what you
 wanted. _You_ were confusing me  

 Confusion is a state of mind and mine is in a hell of a state right now :)


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, May 13, 2005 at 8:59:52 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote:

 Great. Now we need that for Quick templates as well.

 Why not share them?

? share what?

When I had just changed to IMAP, it wasn't pretty transferring those
templates across so that I could get rid of one of my POP accounts. A
copy of all at once would have been nice.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Peter Fjelsten
9Val,

On 11-05-2005 22:54, you [9] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
9 [-] Minor  : QTemplate editor, NFS source folder, ViewSource menus

I can confirm that the NFS IMAP source folder bug seems to be
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread David Elliott
Hello 9Val,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 9:54:22 PM, you wrote:

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Still the same lack of menu items available from the keyboard. as
reported before in

mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 09:29, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

DE mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Shortcuts are not assigned to the main menu so they cannot be used by
 mistake when other windows are active. You can find the shortcuts in
 local menus. This consideration was taken from earlier versions
 starting from 0.xx :-)

I do believe he meant the underlining of a letter, to let the user know
which key to press while browsing the menus by keyboard.

But while we're at it, I still have not tried the last betas, but I do
believe this has not been discussed. In earlier versions, we had to
assign shortcuts not only per windows but per pane as well. It makes
sense when we're dealing with for example the standard use of the 'del'
key, but for most shortcuts it does not.

Have you considered this and made it easier to assign window wide
instead of pane wide shortcuts?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Boris Anders
Hello George,

George Menegakis wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Hmm, I just saw that the non working Quick Find on the Customizer is
 missing. Make it disappear is not a fix IMHO.

IMHO it's a fix. I think Ritlabs want's to release the final, and
therefore they fixed the bug of non working quick find by removing
quick find in order to implement a working quick find in next cycle.

However, I'm a bit disapointed, that this seems to be the only fix in
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi,

I noticed since Beta 5 or 6 that Connection Center is put in background
when polling mails from one account and put into foreground (as it always
was before) when polling mails from all accounts.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread MAU
Hello Martin,

 I noticed since Beta 5 or 6 that Connection Center is put in background
 when polling mails from one account...

Nor here, as I have been able to confirm right now.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi all!

 I noticed since Beta 5 or 6 that Connection Center is put in background
 when polling mails from one account...
 Nor here, as I have been able to confirm right now.

Ah ok, I tested it once more. The Connection Center only opens in
background when starting it by clicking on the down arrow on the right side
of Recieve new mail and selecting a single account. If you directly click
on Recieve new mail or click on Get new mail for all the Connection
Center appears in foreground as it should.

MAU, can you confirm this?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread MAU
Hello Martin,

 Ah ok, I tested it once more. The Connection Center only opens in
 background when starting it by clicking on the down arrow on the right side
 of Recieve new mail and selecting a single account. If you directly click
 on Recieve new mail or click on Get new mail for all the Connection
 Center appears in foreground as it should.
 
 MAU, can you confirm this?

Yes, I can confirm just as you describe it now.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 Nor here, as I have been able to confirm right now.
  ^^^
  Not


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Raymund Tump
Hello 9Val,

 RT Not fixed over here. Still crashing if I close TB! while it is in
 RT queue mode.
 But fixed for others, seems there was 2 different problems

Must be so. But the past tense in your last sentence is wrong :-)

IMAP is worse than ever. I waited for 20 minutes now to get a new
message list from the server. But maybe that is a gmx problem as the
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread 9Val
Hi Raymund,  

 But fixed for others, seems there was 2 different problems
RT Must be so. But the past tense in your last sentence is wrong :-)

No, it is absolutely correct, now only 1 problem remains  :-)

RT IMAP is worse than ever. I waited for 20 minutes now to get a new
RT message list from the server. But maybe that is a gmx problem as the
RT long queue time...

If you have slow connection try to reduce message count in folder, use
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread raymund
Hi 9Val!
IMAP is worse than ever. I waited for 20 minutes now to get a new
message list from the server. But maybe that is a gmx problem as the
long queue time...
If you have slow connection try to reduce message count in folder, use
archivation and purging.
 

I have a fast connection, well I thought I have :-)
What do you mean with archivation and purging? Do you mean I should copy 
read mails from the server to a local (common) folder? Or do you mean 
that I should delete my precious TBBeta mails from the folder on the server?

As I tend to collect every mail I ever got, the TBBeta folder has now 
nearly 2 mails, but that doesn't pose any problems with Thunderbird 
or the webmail interface of gmx.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Allie Martin
Hi raymund,
  On 12/05/2005 07:48 PM +0200, you wrote:
I have a fast connection, well I thought I have :-)
What do you mean with archivation and purging? Do you mean I should
copy read mails from the server to a local (common) folder? Or do you
mean that I should delete my precious TBBeta mails from the folder on
the server?
He means moving older messages to local folders.
As I tend to collect every mail I ever got, the TBBeta folder has now
nearly 2 mails, but that doesn't pose any problems with
Thunderbird or the webmail interface of gmx.
ThunderBird may not have problems, but TB! seems to unless your 
connection is very quick, i.e., LAN speed. :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread 9Val
Hi 9Val,  

Uuups, RC9 :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Mike
On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 5:54:30 PM, Simon Fincham wrote:

SF I've  installed  the  MSI Home version. My spell checking has been
SF completely removed.

Confirmed here.

SF Under the 'Spell Checker' menu all options are greyed out an
SF unavailable.  Selecting 'Languages' displays an empty popout box. 
SF The Speller folder in the main directory is completely empty.

What's  even  worse is I have inline checking on, so now every
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello 9Val,

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:

the favorite entries are furthermore not usable, please fix this really
annoying bug before publication the final release.
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4463

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread 9Val
Hello Gleason,  

GP Is this file needed for those who are not having a problem with the spell 
checker?

No

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RC9 [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available]

2005-05-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val!

On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 4:41 PM, you wrote:

 [-] Minor:  Translation issues, cookies :-) , editor
  i_n_c_o_n_s_i_s_t_e_n_c_e_s

Easy msi installation, up and running, fetches (pop3) and sends mail
flawlessly. Good job!

Cookie now spelled correctly in Utilities/Insert. ;)
Thanks.

Still to fix (if you've decided to fix it):

Capability to open an attachment in the Edit Mail Message window using
a double-click. Unlike in the View Message windows, a double-click on
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 [-] Minor:  Translation issues, cookies :-) , editor
  i_n_c_o_n_s_i_s_t_e_n_c_e_s ;-)

Well, it is more consistent now but not completely :-)

I still think that all left click context menus should not happen. I can
even get the Priority  context menu with a left click by clicking a
little to the left of the Priority icon.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

 The PROFESSIONAL VERSION does already have the IntPack included.

Correct.

About dictionaries for spell checker. With RC9 msi there is the option
to install all or none of them. Will it be possible to just install
selected dictionaries (languages)?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Thu, 12 May 2005 22:54:30 +0100, Simon Fincham wrote:

My spelling is that bad, this is a definate need LOL

Definite. ;-)


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Ron Secord
Mike [M] wrote,

M What's even worse is I have inline checking on, so now every word
M is underlined as misspelled.

Confirmed here.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 4:41:38 PM [GMT -0500], 9val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 Here is a short list of changes:

The MSI installation went just fine here. Things seem to be working
well.

All my crashes related to shortcut customisation ended when I deleted
the tbuser.def file and allowed a new one to be created. I could then
create my single key shortcuts and they're all working.

Very good

Hats off. This one really works well so far and seems a keeper.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available - HELP

2005-05-12 Thread Gary
Hi 9Val,
--On Friday, May 13, 2005 12:41 AM +0300 you wrote in part:
Hi All,
The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:
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I installed rc9 on XP, over my existing stuff... I cannot start it! It 
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-12 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 8:21:10 PM [GMT -0500], Neal Laugman wrote:

 Yes - all the shortcut creation works well now and no AV's. IMAP is OK
 now too. I had an issue with the account not sending, but after I
 completely deleted the account and created it again from scratch it is
 working well now, too. Maybe time to make Thunderbird Soup?

... and I tell you it's great soup. I made mine a long time ago. Be sure
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available - HELP

2005-05-12 Thread Gary
Hi Gary,

On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:11:39 -0500 UTC (5/12/2005, 8:11 PM -0500 UTC
my time), Gary wrote:


G I installed rc9 on XP, over my existing stuff... I cannot start it! It
G crashes immediately... installed again, same. It will not run.

I had to completely delete and reinstall everything. It is now
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Raymund Tump
Hello 9Val,

 [-] IMAP   : AVs on exiting before real conversation

Not fixed over here. Still crashing if I close TB! while it is in
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val!

On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:54 PM, you wrote:

 [-] Other  : possible reason of changing sorting columns

I think this is fixed. Much appreciated.

I have been trying to make the Customise functions present an AV, but
so far, they won't. Maybe Boris will tell me how, soon.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Cees

Het was op woensdag 11 mei 2005 om 22:54 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The 
Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available' :

Hallo 9Val,
  
9 [-] IMAP   : copy to local workaround for MailTraq

  YES! You're fantastic!!
  Thanks!
  Works like a charm now.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello 9Val,

  A reminder of what 9Val typed on:
  May 11, 2005 at 23:54:22 GMT +0300

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9 Here is a short list of changes:
9 [-] POP: Filters in POP3 session weren't logged.
Confirmed as fixed.

9 [-] Finder : history
Is better, but I can only see search for. On further inspection as
you search for new terms they are added.
9 [-] UI : Customizer fixes
Not sure what, but Quicksearch has Gone Walkabout
9 [-] Other  : possible reason of changing sorting columns
Columns stayed the same this time, however , toolbar is truncated
again. Will keep an eye out.





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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 [-] POP: Filters in POP3 session weren't logged.

Fixed.

 [-] Finder : history

Fixed.

 [-] Other  : possible reason of changing sorting columns

Well, I have not seen any sorting disorder with this new version.

 [-] Minor  : QTemplate editor, NFS source folder, ViewSource menus

I don't know what the NFS source folder problem was, but QT editor and
ViewSource are fixed.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread 9Val
Hello Raymund,  

 [-] IMAP   : AVs on exiting before real conversation

RT Not fixed over here. Still crashing if I close TB! while it is in
RT queue mode.

But fixed for others, seems there was 2 different problems

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread 9Val
Hello Mary,  

MB I have been trying to make the Customise functions present an AV, but
MB so far, they won't. Maybe Boris will tell me how, soon.

Hmm, have 2 opposite hopes
1. That there are no AVs
2. That Boris and others will find all, so we can fix them

But first is more prefered ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread 9Val
Hello MAU,  

M I don't know what the NFS source folder problem was, but QT editor and
M ViewSource are fixed.

There  was too narrow column while selecting source folder for filter,
see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val!

On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 4:37 PM, you wrote:

 Hmm, have 2 opposite hopes
 1. That there are no AVs
 2. That Boris and others will find all, so we can fix them

 But first is more prefered ;-)

By me, also, as the saying goes, by a country mile! ;)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 There  was too narrow column while selecting source folder for filter,
 see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, I guess I missed that.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cees,

On Wed, 11 May 2005 23:16:23 +0200GMT (11-5-2005, 23:16 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

9 [-] IMAP   : copy to local workaround for MailTraq
C   YES! You're fantastic!!

Why's that, you aren't using Mailtraq, are you?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear 9val,

@11-May-2005, 23:54 +0300 (11-May 21:54 UK time) 9Val [9] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to All:

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

... snip

Sort is now remembering multiple columns for the ticker VF (yay) but
on recalling the column sort settings, I get two first sort columns
and one secondary.

Please see the attached.

It does seem to be sorting how I want though.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Cees,

  A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
  11 May 2005 at 23:16:49 GMT +0200

C   YES! You're fantastic!!
C   Thanks!
C   Works like a charm now.

 What does?


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