Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, at 19:41:23 [GMT +0300] (which was 18:41 where I live) 9val wrote: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: ...snip I hope the next bèta will arrive very soon because it is very hard to keep on using this one ;-) The AV's are less than in the beginning but still happen very regularly :-( -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpj7pGD0VXpD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Friday, September 30, 2005, at 09:40 AM, Vili wrote: There was one in the bed and the little one said, Alone, at last... I didn't even get in the bed. g There were quite a few messages posted by the time I learnt of the beta. The reports of AV's and many confirmations made me feel pessimistic about being one of those who wouldn't experience them. So here's to skipping beta/8. Cheers. :) -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= .. I'll be Bach. - Johann Sebastian Schwarzenegger pgpedhc1tLwaa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, at 10:40:11 [GMT -0400] (which was 16:40 where I live) Vili wrote: Hi Villi, I hope the next bèta will arrive very soon because it is very hard to keep on using this one ;-) The AV's are less than in the beginning but still happen very regularly :-( When I see people suffering from v.3.61.08 I remember this child song: There were ten in a bed and the little one said, ...snip I know that song in Dutch too :-) :)) You will be the only one after a while who wont roll back to .07 :)) Dont suffer. .08 was a mistake, it happens in development, bugs exist. It is not like e.g. painting... But I am still using it for testing GPG ;-) I make backups regularly, also with this version, so... -- grtz, Henk __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpEURYF6zz3t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Vili, Friday, September 30, 2005, 4:40:11 PM, you wrote: V :)) You will be the only one after a while who wont roll back to .07 I installed it as soon as it was available and only got 1 AV since then! Since a while I've been having problems with TB! hanging while fetching the mail for some (not always the same) accounts. TB itself did not hang, only the connection for that/those account(s); I had to use the taskmanager to get rid of those hanging connections. I hardly had to do that with 3.61.08... ?!?!?!? I probably will have problems again as soon as I use .09! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) MyMacros 1.11 zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 8:17:46) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
SOT: Tune for Roll over? [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Vili! On Friday, September 30, 2005, 9:40 AM, you wrote: There was one in the bed and the little one said, Alone, at last... Let me Echo you! BTW, what's the tune to this little Roll Over ditty? I guarantee you there were a lot more than 10 AVs in my Batty Bed, before *I* rolled back over to v. 3.61.07! They were absolutely smothering me!! :)) You will be the only one after a while who wont roll back to .07 :)) Dont suffer. .08 was a mistake, it happens in development, bugs exist. It is not like e.g. painting... Yeah, curb your masochistic tendencies, fellow beta testers! It's the weekend! Get beta v. 3.61.07 and cut loose! ;) Unless that one also bothers you--in which case, get the version which most delights you. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.09 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hi Alexander S. Kunz, Thursday, September 29, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Sorry if it has nothing to do with the bug, but may I push this old wish a little bit again: This time replying to the specific message works, do you remember my complaint yesterday? And I did it by using the green icon. :) -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.61.09 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 28-Sep-2005 at 19:51 you (Mary Bull) wrote: First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. Sorry if it has nothing to do with the bug, but may I push this old wish a little bit again: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2486 :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It's a good thing money can't buy happiness. We couldn't stand the commercials. Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Alexander! On Thursday, September 29, 2005, 11:08 AM, you wrote: First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. Sorry if it has nothing to do with the bug, but may I push this old wish a little bit again: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2486 :-) :) I do support you in bringing this old wish to everyone's attention again. I think I've already put about two supporting notes to it. It's a good idea! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Mary, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 2:36:10 PM, you wrote: Happening consistently now. Additionally, AV on Send: 0092861 Write of address 0319. Same here. Unable to respond to a message out of a virtual folder. Even unable to bring up a new message when the vocus is on a virtual folder. By far the buggiest version I have had for sometime. -- Best regards, Tim Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hi Alexander S. Kunz, Thursday, September 29, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Sorry if it has nothing to do with the bug, but may I push this old wish a little bit again: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2486 I added a note on it. BTW: I remember there are macros doing that for you. This would allow you to adapt those macros to your liking. Another strange issue with the Echo 8: I get constant AVs on replying to your message, so I reverted to Echo 7. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 29-Sep-2005 at 18:42 you (Mary Bull) wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2486 :-) :) I do support you in bringing this old wish to everyone's attention again. I think I've already put about two supporting notes to it. It's a good idea! Its the best idea there is, of course! :-) Why would anyone select some text, and then use the reply function (any of 'em), if not to quote only the selected part? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Nothing is rich but the inexhaustible wealth of nature. She shows only surfaces, but she is a million fathoms deep. (Ralph Waldo Emerson) Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Charlene Ferrara everyone else, on 29-Sep-2005 at 18:53 you (Charlene Ferrara) wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2486 I added a note on it. BTW: I remember there are macros doing that for you. This would allow you to adapt those macros to your liking. Really? How would a macro find out which text was selected? I mean... what this wish is about is not select and then copy-to-clipboard, but simply mark the text, hit reply, done. Another strange issue with the Echo 8: I get constant AVs on replying to your message, so I reverted to Echo 7. I read so much about AVs in .8 that I didn't even bother to try it. Does this happen only with my message? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The one time you lean back and relax is the time the boss walks by. Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Alexander! On Thursday, September 29, 2005, 12:18 PM, you wrote: Its the best idea there is, of course! :-) Why would anyone select some text, and then use the reply function (any of 'em), if not to quote only the selected part? :-) Here's hoping the clarity of your logic will convince the developers to assign http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2486 to a specific member of the team! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hi Alexander S. Kunz, Thursday, September 29, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : I added a note on it. BTW: I remember there are macros doing that for you. This would allow you to adapt those macros to your liking. Really? How would a macro find out which text was selected? I mean... what this wish is about is not select and then copy-to-clipboard, but simply mark the text, hit reply, done. Oops.. caught me. I thought I was referring to your other wish, the subject cleaner. On a German site I read about it, one or two years ago. Another strange issue with the Echo 8: I get constant AVs on replying to your message, so I reverted to Echo 7. I read so much about AVs in .8 that I didn't even bother to try it. Does this happen only with my message? Sorry, yes. I didn't want to reply to all postings just to find it out, but answering to you is causing reproducible AVs. Others like Richard's and Mary's were to reply to without a flaw. Some AVs only happen once, others fill that gap and spoil the fun. Clicking on an icon ie or highlighting a text to F4-it caused AVs. IMHO unusable. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Charlene Ferrara everyone else, on 29-Sep-2005 at 20:29 you (Charlene Ferrara) wrote: Oops.. caught me. I thought I was referring to your other wish, the subject cleaner. On a German site I read about it, one or two years ago. Oh, I'm using that already (removing ä ö ü ß and AW and stuff when replying), but it doesn't help with the problematic incoming messages and threading by subject. Does this happen only with my message? Sorry, yes. I didn't want to reply to all postings just to find it out, but answering to you is causing reproducible AVs. I'm flattered. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The doors of Heaven and Hell are adjacent and identical: both green, both beautiful. -- Nikos Kazantzakis Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hi Alexander S. Kunz, Thursday, September 29, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Oops.. caught me. I thought I was referring to your other wish, the subject cleaner. On a German site I read about it, one or two years ago. Oh, I'm using that already (removing ä ö ü ß and AW and stuff when replying), but it doesn't help with the problematic incoming messages and threading by subject. OIC Does this happen only with my message? Sorry, yes. I didn't want to reply to all postings just to find it out, but answering to you is causing reproducible AVs. I'm flattered. :-) I have high hopes for Echo 9 :) ..and I know how to test it, I parked your message ;) we will see... -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Alexander, On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ASK Why would anyone select some text, and then use the reply function (any of ASK 'em), if not to quote only the selected part? Now that is an exceedingly good point so I'm off to support your wish. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) with SpamPal a POP3 account | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.61.08 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
Het was op woensdag 28 september 2005 om 18:41 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available' : Hoi 9Val, 9 The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36108.rar for those who cannot access that page ;) -- groeten, Cees MACHO: Jogging home from your own vasectomy. __ The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 11:41 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: ... [-] UI : Labels didn't repaint in the Backup Center I'm not exactly sure what this means. However, I did a back-up using beta .07 just before installing .08 and found apparent overwriting of the folder names being stored and also overwriting of the information on total HD space and HD freespace. This made the words and numbers muddy and mostly unreadable. Now I've just finished doing a backup using beta .08. All letters and numbers are clear and readable as the storage of folders progresses. The arrangement of the information in the window looks clearer and cleaner to me, also. Did you make a little more white space around the sections? Whatever, the effect is all so much more pleasant to the eye that I sat here and watched the entire backup process, which took about 4 minutes to complete. (I have a myriad of folders and a ton of mail to back up, being such a packrat.) Anyway, thanks for this great improvement! ... [-] UI : columns don't stick changes Fixed here. :thankyou: And everything else is still running smoothly--the major activities, at least: sending, receiving, filtering, and the like. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val, am Mittwoch, 28. September 2005 um 18:41 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 9 The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I'm getting lots of AV and External Exceptions while using this version (as Home Version). Previous 07 had none of this problems. AV started appearing while i was reading random messages (in message-window, no message-preview). After two or three attempts i get first exceptions before the message is opened. After that i get more exceptions while fetching or sending mails. (TB 3.61.08 Home - Win2k SP4) -- ciao Melanie Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 11:41 AM, you wrote The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task Manager. First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. I got an External Exception error. When I clicked on OK, I got an AV 009EB904 in module 'The Bat.exe' Read of address . Clicking on OK cleared that. So I tried doing a full quote, using the Reply icon. This brought on a series of AVs with varying addresses, which I finally escaped with the Task Manager. Here are the first two: AV 009EB404 Read of 0040 followed, upon clicking OK, by AV 009DC409 read of and so on. After I relaunched TB!, I set up this Reply to you doing a full quote and clicking on Reply in the Message menu. No problem whatsoever using the menu for Reply. I don't use Keyboard Shortcuts, so can't report on whether Reply works okay with them. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mary Bull wrote: I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task Manager. [...] Totally Confirmed regards, Michael - -- 28.09.2005, 19:56 Glück ist ein Stuhl, der plötzlich dasteht, wenn man sich zwischen zwei andere setzen will. (George Bernard Shaw) PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDOtlrwSeWjeWf1Q0RAkDuAKDZk7keZQJvWxzB1Xk8nwmZLKjh+wCglNRX eCvqE4LZwQ7A98eV14XpoO0= =2E+F -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Het was op woensdag 28 september 2005 om 19:51 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]' : Hoi Mary, MB First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down MB Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. hey, didn't know this feature... ;) but, worked like a charm here. -- groeten, Cees A bug is a feature that didn't make it into the manual. __ The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV opening message from Inbox message list [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 11:41 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I doubleclicked on a message that came into my Inbox, for which I didn't have a filter set up. Got the following AV: 00B435A5 Read of 0035003C Clicking Ok cleared it. Second attempt opened the message. (I'm using Folder View, not Preview Pane.) Had another filter-less message in that same download to the Inbox. Doubleclicking it brought an External Exception 8003. clicking OK cleared the warning box and the message then immediately displayed. Just thought I'd better report these. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello all, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, Mary Bull wrote: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task Manager. First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. I got an External Exception error. When I clicked on OK, I got an AV 009EB904 in module 'The Bat.exe' Read of address . AVs confirmed. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, at 19:41:23 [GMT +0300] (which was 18:41 where I live) 9val wrote: Hi All, The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] Privacy: GnuPG location could be specified in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GNU\GNUPG\gpgProgram [-] Privacy: Empty GnuPG output [-] Other : Move control positions from language resource didn't work. [-] Other : Troubles with CSAPI spellchecker under user priveleges [-] Tabs : color settings [*] UI : Checksboxes in message account affect nested folders in the Message Finder folder tree [-] UI : Labels didn't repaint in the Backup Center [-] UI : Labels were vertically centered [-] UI : columns don't stick changes Downloaded and installed. Wondering how The Bat! will deal with GnuPG now. I have a free form uid but the e-mailaddress I am using for this list is the first of three, so I can not test the 2nd or 3rd here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4171) -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpqBfnpBdvaw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi 9Val, on Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0300GMT, you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [*] Privacy: GnuPG location could be specified in 9 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GNU\GNUPG\gpgProgram 9 [-] Privacy: Empty GnuPG output Does this mean I can use my GnuPG key from within The Bat!? No, it doesn't. gpg: key 9E19BFC2: secret key without public key - skipped gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available *sigh*... - -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.61.08 Echo :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.45 Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org Comment: My key: https://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0xE10774CE iD8DBQFDOtzXAzZSBuEHdM4RA5mwAKDfqDMdlm0r3TQzsXCDNNSgnVrSywCg13+N Rpp1Yz88z74QRkGrsiry0bs= =MJUh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 @ 10:51:41 AM [-0700], Mary Bull wrote: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task Manager. Confirmed. I had to do it when Replying with selected text using F4. It AV'd, I closed it with the task manager. Gave it another shot...it worked a few times, but then suddenly F4 was opening a reply window with no addresses, no text...all blank fields. Back to .04 (last version where IMAP filtering was working). -- Matt Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, at 19:41:14 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:41 where I live) Melanie wrote: I'm getting lots of AV and External Exceptions while using this version (as Home Version). Previous 07 had none of this problems. AV started appearing while i was reading random messages (in message-window, no message-preview). After two or three attempts i get first exceptions before the message is opened. After that i get more exceptions while fetching or sending mails. No such problems with the Pro Version. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpbwajA4djP1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, at 12:51:41 [GMT -0500] (which was 19:51 where I live) Mary Bull wrote: I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task Manager. First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. I got an External Exception error. When I clicked on OK, I got an AV 009EB904 in module 'The Bat.exe' Read of address . Confirmed! -- grtz, Henk __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpdz1gOTn59s.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Melanie! On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 12:41 PM, you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I'm getting lots of AV and External Exceptions while using this version (as Home Version). Previous 07 had none of this problems. AV started appearing while i was reading random messages (in message-window, no message-preview). After two or three attempts i get first exceptions before the message is opened. After that i get more exceptions while fetching or sending mails. Confirmed--happening here, also. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, at 20:11:56 [GMT +0200] (which was 20:11 where I live) Peter Meyns wrote: Hi 9Val, on Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0300GMT, you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [*] Privacy: GnuPG location could be specified in 9 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GNU\GNUPG\gpgProgram 9 [-] Privacy: Empty GnuPG output Does this mean I can use my GnuPG key from within The Bat!? No, it doesn't. gpg: key 9E19BFC2: secret key without public key - skipped gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available *sigh*... *SIGH* When I used Ctrl-F5 to answer your message I got: AV at 00BFEDEA address 0040, clicking ok brought: AV at 009E7B5D address If only GPG would work properly... -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpD45FgnCF5B.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 12:51 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task Manager. ... a series of AVs with varying addresses, which I finally escaped with the Task Manager. Here are the first two: AV 009EB404 Read of 0040 followed, upon clicking OK, by AV 009DC409 read of ... Happening consistently now. Additionally, AV on Send: 0092861 Write of address 0319. Consistent numbers, every time. 4 separate Sends now Clicking on OK clears the warning box and TB! sends the message--at least it appears in my Sent folder. Can't live with this. Dropping back to v. 3.61.07. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hallo Mary, On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:51:41 -0500GMT (28-9-2005, 19:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MB I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task MB Manager. Me too. MB First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down MB Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. I don't have any toolbars enabled, so I've got to manage with shortcuts. Anyway, replying went fine, opening messages went fine. But then I had to open a mailto: url in the exploder and I got some AV's. Afterwards I decided to confirm these AV's to you, but my replying to your message got TB stuck in the mud of recurring AV's. After a restart everything is fibe. (till now) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpP19zQszYAs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Mary, On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MB First I attempted to Reply, using selected text, by holding down MB Shift and clicking on the green Reply-arrow icon. This worked fine for me but, on trying the same with F4, got an AV and had to use Task Manager too. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) with SpamPal a POP3 account | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 1:02:04 PM, Cees wrote: hey, didn't know this feature... ;) me too. pretty slick and long overdue. Shift-reply to all DOES NOT work, and it should. I take it I should skip .08 and wait on the next beta? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Dwight! On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 2:45 PM, you wrote: hey, didn't know this feature... ;) me too. pretty slick and long overdue. ... Oh, it's been a feature for a *long* time. At least since 2.xx. It's my mainstay, since I'm a mouse person. Shift-reply to all DOES NOT work, and it should. Works here. Are you sure that you highlighted (selected) the text before trying that? I take it I should skip .08 and wait on the next beta? Absolutely, unless you think you'll get lucky, as Cees did. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 2:46:07 PM, Mary Bull wrote: Shift-reply to all DOES NOT work, and it should. Works here. Are you sure that you highlighted (selected) the text before trying that? When I hit SHIFT and REPLY TO ALL, I get the whole message, not just the highlighted part. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Dwight! On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 2:57 PM, you wrote: Shift-reply to all DOES NOT work, and it should. Works here. Are you sure that you highlighted (selected) the text before trying that? When I hit SHIFT and REPLY TO ALL, I get the whole message, not just the highlighted part. Hmm. Sorry. I do confirm. The test I made was on such a short message, where I quoted the message body, and your cut mark was working, that I overlooked that part of your greeting template was also quoted. So, I do confirm. Off to do a search in BT. If it's not already reported there, I'll write a new BT report. If it is, I'll put a note that the problem still exists in 3.61.08. Stay tuned. I'll be back with a BT link shortly. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [*] Privacy: GnuPG location could be specified in 9 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GNU\GNUPG\gpgProgram 9 [-] Privacy: Empty GnuPG output Does this mean I can use my GnuPG key from within The Bat!? No, it doesn't. gpg: key 9E19BFC2: secret key without public key - skipped gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available *sigh*... Are you sure that's not a gpg issue? Doesn't look like your secret key has a public key with it. Did you export your key from another location? Did you remember to export both public and secret key? Have you tried signing a file, or some text from the GPG command? c:\ gpg --clearsign You need a passphrase to unlock... type some stuff here ^Zenter GnuPG works fine here. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpdONIdBveNW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi 9Val, Wednesday, September 28, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ while filtering (re-filtering) is in progress and one clicks on abort TB is shot down, is dead, is no more. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.08 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
9Val, Not seeing as many problems on my Pro as some Home users, but I did get a cascading AV when trying to reply. And filters seem to be not working at all. -- Gleason Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 7:41:14 PM, you wrote: I'm getting lots of AV and External Exceptions while using this version (as Home Version). Previous 07 had none of this problems. Confirmed. Errors on sending a reply and on exit, had to kill the poor animal in Task Manager. Going back to .08. -- Michael Paluchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ www.nethut.pl _ www.buggybrain.com _ I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. / Isaac Asimov Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, at 15:09:50 [GMT -0500] (which was 22:09 where I live) Jonathan Angliss wrote: 9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [*] Privacy: GnuPG location could be specified in 9 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GNU\GNUPG\gpgProgram 9 [-] Privacy: Empty GnuPG output Does this mean I can use my GnuPG key from within The Bat!? No, it doesn't. gpg: key 9E19BFC2: secret key without public key - skipped gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available *sigh*... Are you sure that's not a gpg issue? Doesn't look like your secret key has a public key with it. Did you export your key from another location? Did you remember to export both public and secret key? Have you tried signing a file, or some text from the GPG command? c:\ gpg --clearsign You need a passphrase to unlock... type some stuff here ^Zenter GnuPG works fine here. He is talking (writing) about: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4171) -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgp1wbzniHQng.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Jonathan, on Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:09:50 -0500GMT, you wrote: gpg: key 9E19BFC2: secret key without public key - skipped gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available *sigh*... JA Are you sure that's not a gpg issue? Doesn't look like your secret JA key has a public key with it. Did you export your key from another JA location? Did you remember to export both public and secret key? Have JA you tried signing a file, or some text from the GPG command? There is no problem to sign with GPGshell or with Thunderbird/Enigmail. It is only The Bat! that won't recognize the different user IDs on my key. - -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.61.08 Echo :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.45 Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org Comment: My key: https://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0xE10774CE iD8DBQFDO3+5AzZSBuEHdM4RA7WrAKDxeblw89L983MvQ9A7I/qAA4EzaACbBSQP KdVEcKR8dlsG7In4nDnKx0I= =zeQP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
