Re[2]: Attribution Line in Replies and Forwarded Messages etc.

2002-07-02 Thread Chris Weaven

Hi Januk,

On Monday, July 1, 2002 17:04, which was Tuesday, July 2, 2002 at 01:04 where I am, 
Januk Aggarwal [JA] wrote;

When I press the reply button, no text from your mail is carried over. Here is my 
template;

On %QINCLUDE=Date %QINCLUDE=Time, which was %ODATE=, %-
 d,  at hh:nn where I am, %OFROMFNAME %OFROMLNAME [%QINCLUDE='Initials'] 
wrote;
%Quotestyle= %QINCLUDE=QuotesInit
%QUOTES

Here's Initials QT;
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(\w).*?([-_=@\.\s]+(\w).*?)?([-_=@\.\s]+(\w).*?)?$%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%QINCLUDE=Full Name%-
%SUBPATT=1%SUBPATT=3%SUBPATT=5%-

Here's QuotesInit QT;
%QUOTESTYLE='%-
%IF:%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Bat!|Becky|Gnus|slrn).*$%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
%SUBPATT=1:=%QINCLUDE=Initials:None'

What is wrong in the above?

Also, I like the attribution line because the text was written on different days 
because of the time difference, but if there was no
time difference, I'd like to line to only show the time for my bit rather than the 
whole day. I'm sure we'll need an if function in
there somewhere!?

You mean the Initials, Full Name and Full Name - No AB Entry QTs?
That's fairly simple.  The Initials routine needs a string from which
it will extract the initials.  That string is generated by the Full
Name QT which looks in the address book.  If there isn't an address
book entry then the Full Name QT calls the Full Name - No AB Entry QT
to make sure that the name of the person is returned.  If %OFROMNAME
macro returns an address, only the part before the '@' is returned.
Yup. I carried them all over, but something still seems very wrong :-(

CW I totally agree with you. Although I'm getting frustrated, I get a
CW good sense of achievement on completion (should I ever get there!)
You will, soon.
Can I question that!? ;-p

Thanks,

A hair losing Chris.


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Re: Problems rendering html mail

2002-07-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hola Ricardo,

 Can you confirm it?

Yes, I can confirm it. But I am using 1.60c just as you are. Let's see
if someone with a different version can also confirm it.

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Re: Problems rendering html mail

2002-07-02 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik

02-07-02, I saw:

 Can you confirm it?

 yes

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Re: Attribution Line in Replies and Forwarded Messages etc.

2002-07-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Chris,

An archeological dig discovered that on Tuesday, July 2, 2002 at 08:29
GMT +0100, Chris Weaven [CW] typed the following:

CW When I press the reply button, no text from your mail is carried
CW over. Here is my template;

CW On %QINCLUDE=Date %QINCLUDE=Time, which was %ODATE=, %-
CW  d,  at hh:nn where I am, %OFROMFNAME %OFROMLNAME 
[%QINCLUDE='Initials'] wrote;
CW %Quotestyle= %QINCLUDE=QuotesInit

Delete this.  You already have the %QUOTESTYLE macro in your
QuotesInit QT.  All you need in your main template is the
%QInclude=... part.

The technical problem is, you need to use a delimiter around the
argument. In other words, it should be:
%QuoteStyle='%QINCLUDE=QuotesInit'

While it is true that this version allows you to use almost any
character as a delimiter, spaces won't usually work simply because
spaces at the end of a line will be stripped by the editor. When TB
doesn't see that second space, it thinks the rest of your template is
part of the argument to %QuoteStyle. In other words, it causes major
confusion.

CW Also, I like the attribution line because the text was written on
CW different days because of the time difference, but if there was no
CW time difference, I'd like to line to only show the time for my bit
CW rather than the whole day. I'm sure we'll need an if function in
CW there somewhere!?

Yes.  The easiest is to replace the whole %ODATE='...' bit with:
%IF:'%QINCLUDE=Time'='%ODATE=hh:nn':'%-
%ODATE=hh:nn':'%-
%ODATE=,  d,  at hh:nn%-

CW Yup. I carried them all over, but something still seems very wrong

I don't follow, what is wrong?  Your attribution line seemed to come up
with the initials ok.

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Re: Problems rendering html mail

2002-07-02 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ricardo M. Reyes [RMR] wrote:

RMR If you read the attached mail in html mode you should see it 'cutted'
RMR in the middle of a sentence (I see a line cut in half vertically),
RMR after the line that says:

Confirmed here.

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Re: Problems rendering html mail

2002-07-02 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Ricardo,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60c)
to write the following on Monday, July 1, 2002 at 3:19:52 PM.

RMR If you read the attached mail in html mode you should see it
RMR 'cutted' in the middle of a sentence (I see a line cut in half
RMR vertically),

The cut is horizontal here...  g, and yes I see the same thing.

RMR Any ideas why it does that?

Not really.

I did look at the html file, and it looked ok, it also displayed ok
when double clicked.

RMR (I don't want to send the images with the mail because I don't think
RMR they are relevant, but TB doesn't let me erase them from inside the
RMR .msg attachment. Any help with that will also be appreciated)

before you forward it, you should be able to select it and hit the
delete button, or right click - delete.  I used to do it all the time
(don't bet many inline pix any more).

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Re: a question about New Message button

2002-07-02 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Roy,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal
to write the following on Monday, July 1, 2002 at 11:32:58 PM.

RC Hi Everyone,

RC   I see there is a small arrow on the right of the New Message
RC   button in the toolbar, the same case as the Send Messages button
RC   and Receive Messages button. But when I push the small arrow part,
RC   it will not show a menu list as the Send... and Receive  It
RC   seems the arrow has no use. Who know the reason?

It will list the 'Favorites' in your address book.  If you have groups
in your address book with contacts that have the 'Favorite' setting
checked, then it will list them also (with All, or just the 'favs' as
sub items.)

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Re: (no subject)

2002-07-02 Thread Julian Knight

Hello Julian, on 2/Jul/2002 you wrote:

JK Hello all,

JK Sorry to be pedantic, but having just joined the list I noticed a
...

Oops, sorry everyone - just fell foul of my reply macro!


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Re: a question about New Message button

2002-07-02 Thread Arthur Warren

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On or about Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 08:41:42 (GMT -0400),
Paul Cartwright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote something similar to:
 On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, 7:54 AM, you wrote:

 I never noticed that arrow!!! I clicked on it and I have ONE entry. I
 don't know how I did it and I can't find how to ADD a favorite...
 oops, never mind I FOUND it!! the OTHER tab in addressbook. I will
 have to  investigate this, thanks!

Or more simply, click the checkbox in the column Favourite in the
addressbook; no need to get the properties of the individual address.


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Re: a question about New Message button

2002-07-02 Thread Arthur Warren

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On or about Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 09:03:28 (GMT -0400),
Paul Cartwright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote something similar to:

  thanks Herb,
 all I had to do was go to the addressbook and -VIEW-COLUMNS and add
 it. It wasn't there, but it is now!

That column has been there so long on mine, I didn't realize that it
wasn't ordinarily. Glad to be of help, though.

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Re: List filter

2002-07-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Julian,

@02 July 2002, 13:34:34 +0100 Julian Knight [JK] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


JK Sorry to be pedantic, but having just joined the list I noticed a
JK slight typo in the instructions for setting up a filter:

... snip

JK TBTECH  Recipient Yes

... snip

JK TBTECH  Sender  Yes

JK which seems to work fine.

Why? It shouldn't. Mail from the TBtech list arrives addressed *from*
the sender and *to* the list address. The filter is described
correctly.

You seem to be sending copies of all list mail to the list-owner
address too.

In fact, the best filter is:

Reply-To: TBTECHKludgesYes

Which correctly filters cross-posted messages to the right place.

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Re[2]: List filter

2002-07-02 Thread Julian Knight

Hello Marck, on 2/Jul/2002 you wrote:

JK TBTECH  Sender  Yes
JK which seems to work fine.

MDP Why? It shouldn't. Mail from the TBtech list arrives addressed *from*
MDP the sender and *to* the list address. The filter is described
MDP correctly.

Urm well it does seem to work correctly as that is what I am using
right now though I do recognise your point.

MDP You seem to be sending copies of all list mail to the list-owner
MDP address too.

Yes, I sent a follow-up e-mail apologising for that. I meant only to
send that mail to the list owner not the list.

MDP In fact, the best filter is:
MDP Reply-To: TBTECHKludgesYes
MDP Which correctly filters cross-posted messages to the right place.

This didn't work for the initial Welcome message which is why I did
it the other way (that and the information in that message). I have my
TBUDL filter set the way you suggest.

In any case, hopefully the list owner will update the welcome message
to save confusion.

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Re: List filter

2002-07-02 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Paul,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal
to write the following on Tuesday, July 2, 2002 at 9:40:47 AM.

PC I'm not sure I fully understand what a kludge is

Hit F9 while reading this msg.  Everything in blue is part of the
Kludges.  It is the RFC[2]822 headers that tell the mail software
about the message.

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Re: List filter

2002-07-02 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, 9:56 AM, you wrote:

PC I'm not sure I fully understand what a kludge is

TM Hit F9 while reading this msg.  Everything in blue is part of the
TM Kludges.  It is the RFC[2]822 headers that tell the mail software
TM about the message.

 ahh, the F9 key, I keep forgetting about that one!
so Kludges=full header info. Which means sender, receiver, subject...
almost anything.

CTRL-SHIFT-K also shows the headers within the message, hard to
remember all these neat commands !

/ Paul

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Re[2]: Attribution Line in Replies and Forwarded Messages etc.

2002-07-02 Thread Chris Weaven

On Tuesday, July 2, 2002 01:52, which was Tuesday, July 2, 2002 at 09:52 where I am, 
Januk Aggarwal [JA] wrote;

Hi Januk,

Check it out! Look at my attribution line! It's very nearly there!
Also, I've the quote initials! Wow :-)

CW Also, I like the attribution line because the text was written on
CW different days because of the time difference, but if there was no
CW time difference, I'd like to line to only show the time for my bit
CW rather than the whole day. I'm sure we'll need an if function in
CW there somewhere!?

JA Yes.  The easiest is to replace the whole %ODATE='...' bit with:
JA %IF:'%QINCLUDE=Time'='%ODATE=hh:nn':'%-
JA %ODATE=hh:nn':'%-
JA %ODATE=,  d,  at hh:nn%-

This was almost what I wanted, but I worded it incorrectly. I wanted it to show the 
full date and time if the actual date was different
rather than the time. Does that make sense? As you can see above, it's got a repeat of 
the date, whereas I only wanted it to show the
date if it was different due to the different time-zones.

I'm going to have a go at changing the 'if' function to make the change if the date is 
different rather than the time. I would
appreciate if you could send me what to do, as by the time you read this, I'll have 
either broken it, or done it.

You assistance and patience is greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Chris.


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Re: Attribution Line in Replies and Forwarded Messages etc.

2002-07-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Chris,

On Tuesday, July 2, 2002 at 19:07 GMT +0100, an infinite number of
monkeys posting as Chris Weaven [CW] typed:

CW This was almost what I wanted, but I worded it incorrectly. I
CW wanted it to show the full date and time if the actual date was
CW different rather than the time. Does that make sense? As you can
CW see above, it's got a repeat of the date, whereas I only wanted it
CW to show the date if it was different due to the different
CW time-zones.

Ah, that makes a little more sense.  Try:

%IF:'%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date\:.*?\,\s*(\d*)%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS%-'='%ODATE=d':'%-
%ODATE=hh:nn':'%-
%ODATE=,  d,  at hh:nn%-

CW You assistance and patience is greatly appreciated!

You are welcome.

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