Sequential Autoresponder
Hello, I have done some basic , filters, and regex in bat, and now I would like to implement this. The basic idea is I have a free learn to play guitar email course, that I want to send out to subscribers over a period of days. There are 7 lessons and ideally each lesson would get sent one per day. As new students come on aboard they start with lesson one and progress up to seven. This is the hard part, a broadcast newsletter is easy, simply email the same thing to many people, but how to email a sequence of emails automatically and individually. Thanks for the suggestions, Tom http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sequential Autoresponder
Hallo tom, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:13:18 -0500GMT (30-10-2004, 10:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T The basic idea is I have a free learn to play guitar email course, that I T want to send out to subscribers over a period of days. There are 7 T lessons and ideally each lesson would get sent one per day. As new T students come on aboard they start with lesson one and progress up to T seven. Create seven AB groups (let's call them lesson1-7) Create a filter that sends an autoresponder to new subscribers of your course saying something like Welcome, you'll get your free lessons seven days on a row around 17:00 -0500 GMT and puts the subscriber address in AB group lesson1. Create seven outgoing filters that check for outgoing lessons and delete the addresses from AB group lesson1 and insert them into lesson2 when they get lesson1. When you're sending them lesson2, you'll have move them one up, but I guess you've got the idea. Now create a batch file (when you're not familiar with batch files see http://gatsby.tafe.tas.edu.au/batch/) called guitarschool.bat Insert seven commands like: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /mailU=MyAccount;T=c:\guitarschool\lesson1.txt Create seven lessonX.txt files Those seven text files are to be setup as templates, you set yourself as to address, you bcc it to your correct AB group, you set a proper subject and you include the lesson in it. Now you create a task in the Windows Scheduler that executes the guitarschool.bat every day at 17:00 (or whatever time you prefer, just mention that time in your first autoresponder) As it is bad form to send messages to multiple people not knowing each other in such a way that they can see each other's addresses, I advised your own address in the to header and the other addresses in bcc, this means you'll receive seven lessons every day, so you'd better create an incoming filter that deletes them. As you're sending your seven messages every day, I can imagine that after a while (when you've checked that your setup works) you configure your outgoing filters such that they delete the lessons too. When you would be using a more recent version of TB you could have done without the batch file and changed the external templates with quick templates, since you could've used TB's internal scheduler, but a setup like above should work. Play around with this. BTW As you're using TB 1.61 I feel obliged to say that while TB has marched on till 3.0.1.33 you can still use 1.62r on the same license as you've got and that version is still available for download at: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php -- Groetjes, Roelof Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. - Robert A.Heinlein The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Use of older Quick Templates in Version 3
Will Quick Templates that work in Version 2, for example those at http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php , work in Version 3? Will the older QT's have to be re-written? If so, is there a utility that can automate the re-writing? Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Use of older Quick Templates in Version 3
Hallo Dan, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:28:07 -0400GMT (30-10-2004, 15:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DG Will Quick Templates that work in Version 2, for example those at DG http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php , work in Version 3? Yes. There were some changes during in macros with v1/v2 transition, but not for v3, that had the filtering system that got updated. -- Groetjes, Roelof Say it with flowers. Give her a Triffid The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Batch files, TheBat!, and Windows XP
Will the DOS batch files (my system is Windows 2000) called by some of my TheBat! filters work under a Windows XP system? Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Batch files, TheBat!, and Windows XP
Hallo Dan, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:12:09 -0400GMT (30-10-2004, 16:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DG Will the DOS batch files (my system is Windows 2000) called by some of DG my TheBat! filters work under a Windows XP system? Yes, presuming you're using the proper paths, etc. -- Groetjes, Roelof No one test the depth of a river with both feet. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thank you Roelof and Paul
Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sequential Autoresponder
Hallo Miguel, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:08:56 +0200GMT (30-10-2004, 14:08 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Not fully automagically but, why don't you ask your students to request M each lesson when they are ready for it? I'm thinking on something like M sending a message with Get lesson N in the subject so that you could M filter on it and send an auto-reply with the proper lesson. What do you think of replying to the finished lesson? I considered that as an option, but there's hardly any challenge in a setup like that. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Wait a minute! Strike that! Reverse it. Thank you. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot connect to server
Hello Clive! On Saturday, October 30, 2004, 9:04 AM, you wrote: MB How could the View window distinguish between a legitimate, MB long-standing, conventional use of the colon and the hi-jacked MB Smiley use of enclosing colons? CT These thingies take the form of a colon, some text and another CT colon, don't they? I can't think of a single sentence written in CT English that would have two colons following each other like that. You're right. I can't either. CT I wouldn't have thought it was that difficult to write a rule to CT identify the format - but what do I know? Me, too. Ignorant Mary is my first name! So--maybe one of us should post a query on tbtech about it? The last thing I want to do is annoy friends like you (or, perhaps even worse, enemies lol if I have any). So I would like the filter to be available and possibly even added to TB!'s set of MACROS. MB This is an old horse, of course, and neither of us wishes to beat MB it to death! CT Oh, but I do, Mary. Okay, MOG! I shall assist you in the endeavor. LOL (For the benefit of tbtech subscribers, where I'm CCing this post, MOG has been variously defined on this thread, first by Clive as miserable old git, and then by another poster as Messenger of God.) Can anyone write a filter that will remove any text preceded immediately by a colon plus followed immediately by a colon from Clive's View Folder window, in which he uses Plain Text View? -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering out Smiley colons [was Re: cannot connect to server]
Hello Fellow Tbtech Subscribers! On Saturday, October 30, 2004, 9:47 AM, Mary wrote, in part: CT I wouldn't have thought it was that difficult to write a rule to CT identify the format - but what do I know? Sorry for the double post--I don't know what made that happen, since all I did was put the tbtech address in the CC field of my post to tbudl. Additionally, sorry for not editing the Subject line before sending the CC. Can anyone help to write a filter or template with a Rule that will exclude Smiley handles enclosed by colons from the View Folder text when one is using Plain Text View? -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot connect to server
Hello Mary! On Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 4:47:16 PM you wrote: MOG has been variously defined on this thread, first by Clive as miserable old git, So, MOG is the ... don't mention it ... third one, I guess? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request No one is injured save by himself. (Desiderius Erasmus) http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering Against Smiley Colons/MOG [was Re: cannot connect to server}
Hello Dierk! On Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 10:17:54 AM you wrote: MB MOG has been variously defined on this thread, first by Clive as MB miserable old git, DH So, MOG is the ... don't mention it ... third one, I guess? Yes! lol What on earth are we going to do about him? (Mean Old Goat :) ) -- Mary :Trill: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 SP2 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sequential Autoresponder
Hello Roelof, M Not fully automagically but, why don't you ask your students to request M each lesson when they are ready for it? I'm thinking on something like M sending a message with Get lesson N in the subject so that you could M filter on it and send an auto-reply with the proper lesson. What do you think of replying to the finished lesson? I considered that as an option, but there's hardly any challenge in a setup like that. ;-) Yes, it may even be better and easier. I also though about that after I had sent my message. If I was to do it I would probably use different Reply-To addresses for the different lessons. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using macros plugins with Version 3
Hello Dan, MyMacros' web site says that MyMacros Version 1.11 will work with TheBat! Version 2, but the site doesn't say anything about MyMacros working with TheBat! Version 3. Has anyone used MyMacros with TheBat! Version 3? Yes, they work. At least the ones I use. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sequential Autoresponder
Hallo Mica, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:26:51 +0200GMT (30-10-2004, 16:26 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM I do see only way in using the Scheduler then (automatically). Won't do. Tom is using v1, that's a version without the scheduler. -- Groetjes, Roelof Ga Naar WINDOWS 95. Ga Niet Langs DOS. Ontvang Geen f 2,- The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How can I use a Verisign digital ID with TB?
Is there a way for me to renew my Verisign digital ID and install it so that TB uses it for S/MIME messages? If so, can someone point me to a step-by-step procedure? I've been thinking of renewing my Verisign ID for correspondents who have only S/MIME, but since I've stopped using Outlook Express there isn't much point in renewing unless there's a way to make the ID work with TB. Pointers and suggestions most welcome. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I use a Verisign digital ID with TB?
Hello Anthony, Saturday, October 30, 2004, 13:49:50, you wrote: AGA Is there a way for me to renew my Verisign digital ID and install it so AGA that TB uses it for S/MIME messages? If so, can someone point me to a AGA step-by-step procedure? AGA I've been thinking of renewing my Verisign ID for correspondents who AGA have only S/MIME, but since I've stopped using Outlook Express there AGA isn't much point in renewing unless there's a way to make the ID work AGA with TB. Pointers and suggestions most welcome. Select the account you want the certificate to be used, then go to Account/Properties, Click on Edit Personal Certificate, then select Import. You should be all set. -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush and BayesIt! 0.7.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I use a Verisign digital ID with TB?
hggdh writes: Select the account you want the certificate to be used, then go to Account/Properties, Click on Edit Personal Certificate, then select Import. You should be all set. Thanks; it seems to work. I'm not clear on how TB picks certificates, though. When I attached my key to the account, and opened a message encrypted for me, TB said I had no matching certificates (the message was in a different folder by then, not in the account inbox). When I added an address book entry for myself in the address book and attached the certificate, TB found it when I opened the message. So just exactly where does it look? Also, is it better to use the Microsoft crypto or the built-in TB crypto for S/MIME? I notice that the built-in crypto displays only the keys actually installed in TB when I encrypt or sign, but if I select the Microsoft crypto TB displays every available key when I encrypt or sign (which is a bit troublesome, since I have dozens of expired keys and it clutters things up considerably). -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I use a Verisign digital ID with TB?
Hello Anthony, Saturday, October 30, 2004, 15:40:56, you wrote: AGA I'm not clear on how TB picks certificates, though. When I attached my AGA key to the account, and opened a message encrypted for me, TB said I had AGA no matching certificates (the message was in a different folder by then, AGA not in the account inbox). When I added an address book entry for AGA myself in the address book and attached the certificate, TB found it AGA when I opened the message. So just exactly where does it look? AGA Also, is it better to use the Microsoft crypto or the built-in TB crypto AGA for S/MIME? I notice that the built-in crypto displays only the keys AGA actually installed in TB when I encrypt or sign, but if I select the AGA Microsoft crypto TB displays every available key when I encrypt or sign AGA (which is a bit troublesome, since I have dozens of expired keys and it AGA clutters things up considerably). I think the best option for you is to look at the Help pages. The Microsoft Crypto API will cause TB! to defer to it any any operation on the certificates -- so it it will refer to your Windows certificate base. There are some strong restrictions on the internal implementation re. encryption algorithms (it seems TB! will only support RC2 (128bits), 3DES(156 bits) or IDEA (128 bits). On the other hand, it is all done by TB!... These are not bad encryption options; but using the Microsoft API you would probably have these, plus a series of others. So, all in all, it depends on who/what you are targeting. -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush and BayesIt! 0.7.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I use a Verisign digital ID with TB?
hggdh writes: There are some strong restrictions on the internal implementation re. encryption algorithms (it seems TB! will only support RC2 (128bits), 3DES(156 bits) or IDEA (128 bits). On the other hand, it is all done by TB!... These are not bad encryption options; but using the Microsoft API you would probably have these, plus a series of others. Unless I'm not mistaken, though, the Microsoft crypto doesn't give me any ability to choose the algorithms I want. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sequential Autoresponder
Roelof, Thank you very much the advice and tips. I have it almost 100% setup but I cannot get the subscribers email to move from one address book to another. Batch files, templates are all setup and working. I created the outgoing filter. I have Add Addresses to address book checked in options. and for Items: I have tried every option, but not one of them will add the recipients actual email address to the next sequential AB. (which for testing purposes I call Lesson 2) It always adds the name of the AB group list and the email that is associated with it but not the actual recipients email. Is this something that cannot be done? That a group's AB can't be individually worked with if a group bcc is selected in template? Thanks again for the great advice. Tom RO Hallo tom, RO On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:13:18 -0500GMT (30-10-2004, 10:13 +0200, where RO I live), you wrote: T The basic idea is I have a free learn to play guitar email course, that I T want to send out to subscribers over a period of days. There are 7 T lessons and ideally each lesson would get sent one per day. As new T students come on aboard they start with lesson one and progress up to T seven. RO Create seven AB groups (let's call them lesson1-7) RO Create a filter that sends an autoresponder to new subscribers of your RO course saying something like Welcome, you'll get your free lessons RO seven days on a row around 17:00 -0500 GMT and puts the subscriber RO address in AB group lesson1. RO Create seven outgoing filters that check for outgoing lessons and RO delete the addresses from AB group lesson1 and insert them into RO lesson2 when they get lesson1. When you're sending them lesson2, RO you'll have move them one up, but I guess you've got the idea. RO Now create a batch file (when you're not familiar with batch files see RO http://gatsby.tafe.tas.edu.au/batch/) called guitarschool.bat RO Insert seven commands like: RO C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /mailU=MyAccount;T=c:\guitarschool\lesson1.txt RO Create seven lessonX.txt files RO Those seven text files are to be setup as templates, you set yourself RO as to address, you bcc it to your correct AB group, you set a proper RO subject and you include the lesson in it. RO Now you create a task in the Windows Scheduler that executes the RO guitarschool.bat every day at 17:00 (or whatever time you prefer, just RO mention that time in your first autoresponder) RO As it is bad form to send messages to multiple people not knowing each RO other in such a way that they can see each other's addresses, I RO advised your own address in the to header and the other addresses in RO bcc, this means you'll receive seven lessons every day, so you'd RO better create an incoming filter that deletes them. RO As you're sending your seven messages every day, I can imagine that RO after a while (when you've checked that your setup works) you RO configure your outgoing filters such that they delete the lessons too. RO When you would be using a more recent version of TB you could have RO done without the batch file and changed the external templates with RO quick templates, since you could've used TB's internal scheduler, but RO a setup like above should work. RO Play around with this. RO BTW As you're using TB 1.61 I feel obliged to say that while TB has RO marched on till 3.0.1.33 you can still use 1.62r on the same license RO as you've got and that version is still available for download at: RO http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
