Re: Mailto: and .VCF associations destroyed

[Thomas F]

Hi Nick,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:47:35 +GMT (22/11/2001, 04:47 +0800GMT),
Nick Gordon wrote:

NG> The mailto: association should come back if you select the option in
NG> Outlook to make it your default email program. You can also do this
NG> via IE.

Yes, but the easier way would be in TB: Options / Preferences /
Applications.

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Re: CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

[Shauna Scott]

Hello Thomas,

Thursday, November 22, 2001, 12:08:43 AM, you wrote:

> Hi Shauna,

> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:36:28 -0700GMT (22/11/2001, 10:36 +0800GMT),
> Shauna Scott wrote:

SS>> I don't know where the problem is, but it would be extremely helpful
SS>> if the CC would time out after a while - I have to keep it visible
SS>> just so I can check now and then to see if it's hung.

> I confirm this. Last night at home, CC hung while downloading message
> 37/129. Obviously a problem either with the POP server or my
> connection to the ISP. Timeout didn't kick in, because it works only
> in the first stage, when "Connecting to Server...".


I've never had it hang in the middle of a download - once it starts
downloading messages everything's fine. Where it gets hung up is the
"Connecting to Server" stage, but it never times out (last night it
sat there for over 9 hours because I forgot to shut down TB when I
left work).

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Re: CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

[Thomas F]

Hi Shauna,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:36:28 -0700GMT (22/11/2001, 10:36 +0800GMT),
Shauna Scott wrote:

SS> I don't know where the problem is, but it would be extremely helpful
SS> if the CC would time out after a while - I have to keep it visible
SS> just so I can check now and then to see if it's hung.

I confirm this. Last night at home, CC hung while downloading message
37/129. Obviously a problem either with the POP server or my
connection to the ISP. Timeout didn't kick in, because it works only
in the first stage, when "Connecting to Server...".

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Re: Hotmail and the Bat?

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Thank you for your email dated Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 11:18:57 PM, in which you 
wrote:


RL> Hotmail...it's needed in addition to my normal accounts for
RL> work purposes.

Have you looked at GMX to provide webmail? IMHO far superior to Hotmail
and you can access it securely using TB! www.gmx.com then choose your
language from the multi-lingual drop-down box.

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Re: Hotmail and the Bat?

[PFord]

On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, Richard Lane wrote:

> I can't see one, but is there a way as in Outlook Express to
> download mail from a Hotmail account into The Bat?

If Hotmail gives you a POP server that you can log onto, then you can.
I have Yahoo accounts with which I both receive and send email with
TB, but Yahoo is more open about such things than MSFT.

> If not any plans to add it.

I think this depends on MSFT rather than anything RIT Labs might do.

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Re: CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

[PFord]

I've had similar experience quite often ever since I got a version
with the new Connection Center. In my case, the CC just sits there,
not showing any activity and trying to abort or delete the task does
nothing, which is a little irritating. TB itself, though, doesn't hang
or freeze. I think this happens mostly with the couple Web mail
accounts, but whatever the reason, I'd prefer that CC would quit with
an error message.

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On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, Jake Bramhall wrote:

> My Connection Center hangs periodically and does not time out, which
> prevents subsequent automatic checking of the account that was hung.  Is
> there anyway to make an account timeout after, say, 2 minutes, so it can be
> checked again automatically?  Microsoft Outlook seems to do this nicely.

> Thanks


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Re: Hotmail and the Bat?

[Angel]

Hi there,

RL> I can't see one, but is there a way as in Outlook Express to download mail
RL> from a Hotmail account into The Bat?

RL> If not any plans to add it. I hate having to use Outlook express about as
RL> much as Hotmail, but sadly it's needed in addition to my normal accounts for
RL> work purposes.
As far as downloading Hotmail email with TB!, yes, you can using
Web2Pop. Setup is easy and it works great. I have been using it for a
while now.  http://www.jmasoftware.com

To clarify, OE doesn't "download" Hotmail...it "synchronizes" with
what is on the Hotmail servers. With Web2Pop, it actually DOWNLOADS it
and, TB! can be set up to "delete messages on the server" thereby
eliminating Hotmail contacting you with the annoying: "Your account size
is too large". OE just coordinates with what is on the server so it is not
actually downloading it. Another reason I couldn't stand using it
"just" to read Hotmail. lol

Just be forewarned that any HTML emails received at your Hotmail account
and downloaded using TB!/W2P will not show HTML graphic unless they are
sent WITH the email.. or something like that. (ie: HTML format email
will not show graphics). Maybe someone else here can clarify; it's been
so long since I have attempted to explain that ;)

Anyways, good luck with W2P. It is tops as far as I am concerned,
making web-based email POP3 retrievable with your favourite email
clientin my case, TB!. :)

Ciao for now,
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[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

About half years I've visited last time that place.
Nothing happens, nothing changes, the same build, the same
questions... It seems animal to be dead and smell
  

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Re[2]: Let me explain my problem...

[Raj]

Tor,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, at 21:25:21 [GMT +0100] (which was 01:55 where I live) you
wrote:

TT> I realize that you answer is probably negative to the two questions above
TT> and that my only option is to have TB manage separate user profiles linked
TT> to separate pop3 accounts.  But maybe someone has a good suggestion up the
TT> sleeve??

Do not give up on TB so easily...

What  you  could  possibly  do  is to create one Master Account and as many user
Accounts.

The   Master  account  is setup to receive and send messages. Disable the 'check
mail' options in all other user accounts.

This will also contain filters of two kinds.

1. Incoming filter which will move the messages to the user accounts.

2.  out going filters : Which will move the sent messages back to the respective
accounts

What  you  will  then  need  to  do  is to have a standard template in each user
account  which  includes  %Account="Master_Account" (or whatever name you give).
This  will  ensure  that  all mails created are put in the out box of the master
account.

This  then  has  the  possibility of users being able to password protect their
accounts.

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Re: help address book woes

[Raj]

Rick,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, at 12:34:18 [GMT -0500] (which was 23:04 where I live) you
wrote:

RR> Can someone please suggest to me the best way to get to use
RR> auto complete for contacts where I need to have a work email address
RR> and/or a home email address appear for the contact.

I  had mentioned this before -

... A work around.

Instead  of  using the normal Parentheses ( and ) use these { and } and it works
well.

I  also  tested  the  above with export & import to a tab limited file and works
well.

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Re[2]: Interesting if you have ( ) after a name

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Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 12:32:30 AM, you wrote:

DH> Hello Scott!

DH> Ever looked under "Other"? There is a memo field.

What does it do? I thought that it was for notes to yourself regarding
the address book entry. It doesn't seem to generate any comments.

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Re: CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

[Shauna Scott]

Hello All, 

On 2001-11-21, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> There's no reason for TB to hang and the built-in timeout shouldn't
> need configuration. I'm looking for another source for the hang.

On my office computer, the CC hangs frequently (i.e. several times a
day, most days) on one particular account, but never (at least not in
several months) on any of my other accounts. That computer runs W2K
Pro with the ezTrust firewall.

On my home computer, one account occasionally hangs (it used to be
frequent, but it's improved lately). This account never hangs on the
office computer, and the account that hangs on the office computer
never hangs on the home computer. The home computer is running WinNT
4.0, also with the ezTrust firewall.

I don't know where the problem is, but it would be extremely helpful
if the CC would time out after a while - I have to keep it visible
just so I can check now and then to see if it's hung.

Best Regards
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Re: Hotmail and the Bat?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, November 22, 2001, Richard Lane wrote:

RL> Probably a daft question, but what the heck I'll ask anyway. :)

RL> I can't see one, but is there a way as in Outlook Express to download mail
RL> from a Hotmail account into The Bat?

RL> If not any plans to add it. I hate having to use Outlook express about as
RL> much as Hotmail, but sadly it's needed in addition to my normal accounts for
RL> work purposes.

I think not. You can use some utilities tp work with Hotmail account:

Web2Pop
http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/products/web2pop/
Shareware

POP3HOT 1.3a
http://www.pop3hot.com/
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Re: CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

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Hi Jake,

On 21 November 2001 at 18:23:33 [GMT-0500] (which was 23:23 where I
live) Jake Bramhall wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

JB> I purposefully omitted those details because I want to approach the problem
JB> by setting a timeout, regardless of the reason for the hanging.

There's no reason for TB to hang and the built-in timeout shouldn't
need configuration. I'm looking for another source for the hang.

JB> Something is likely to cause such a problem again (network
JB> latency, server down...)

Even there TB's own timeout should do the job just fine. I often have
network issues here (the cable regularly falls out of the back of my
laptop ) without hanging the CC. That's why I asked about ZA, which
has been known to hang the CC in the past.

JB> and, because I use theBat to redirect mail to a mobile device, I
JB> am rarely there to abort the job manually. I would like it to
JB> timeout, abort the job, and try again later.

It should be doing that without you having to intervene anyway.

JB> That said, I am running Win2K Pro, TB 1.53d, and no ZoneAlarm.  I
JB> do have Norton Antivirus running.

Is it playing virtual mail server to do real time mail checking?

JB> Any insights you have would be appreciated.

Anyone else got anything to add?

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Re: Let me explain my problem...

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Tor,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:25:21 +0100GMT (21-11-01, 21:25 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

TT> Unfortunately the radio mail server is a commercial site which our server is
TT> just forwarding our messages to, so it would cost us a fortune if we need to
TT> create an account for each user with them.  So I realize that I cannot use
TT> separate user accounts which fetch msgs from one multidrop pop account with
TT> TB.

You can use separate accounts, with one account configured to combine
the collecting and the sending of mail and all other accounts
configured not to do so.
In the collecting account you create filters that put the messages to
the right account (filter on recipient).

TT> My option is obviously to have one account and automatically filter the
TT> received msgs into separate folders for each user.

Not necessarily so.

TT> If we decide to use TB with our scenario in this mode, what about changing
TT> the 'Sender' and Reply to' address for the different users.  Does it exist
TT> an elegant way to do this?

This can be done per folder and also on a per account base. (Per
folder you can check the folder properties and change the identity.)

TT> Secondly, would it be possible for several users to automatically copy sent
TT> msgs to their 'own' sent mail' folder?

Yes. With different accounts that's done automatically. ;-) When
working with a folder per user, you can use outgoing filters to take
care of that.

The only difference for your options is that accounts have a
possibility to be password protected and folder cannot. (I think)

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Re: Search for two or more separated words

[PFord]

On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> Er ... it does. I just did a search for "words & phrase" and it
> found two messages in the TBUDL folder, yours and one other.

My crystal ball seems to be low on resources. I tried AND and OR.

How did I miss this one all this time? Thank you.

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RE: CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

[Jake Bramhall]

Marck,

Thanks for your note.

I purposefully omitted those details because I want to approach the problem
by setting a timeout, regardless of the reason for the hanging.  Something
is likely to cause such a problem again (network latency, server down...)
and, because I use theBat to redirect mail to a mobile device, I am rarely
there to abort the job manually.  I would like it to timeout, abort the job,
and try again later.

That said, I am running Win2K Pro, TB 1.53d, and no ZoneAlarm.  I do have
Norton Antivirus running.

Any insights you have would be appreciated.

JB





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Hi Jake,

On 21 November 2001 at 13:57:53 [GMT-0500] (which was 18:57 where I
live) Jake Bramhall wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

JB> My Connection Center hangs periodically and does not time out,
JB> which prevents subsequent automatic checking of the account that
JB> was hung. Is there anyway to make an account timeout after, say, 2
JB> minutes, so it can be checked again automatically? Microsoft
JB> Outlook seems to do this nicely.

This is sometimes attributable to the use of ZoneAlarm. You don't say
what version of TB you are using nor on which operating system.

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Hotmail and the Bat?

[Richard Lane]

Hello tbudl,

Probably a daft question, but what the heck I'll ask anyway. :)

I can't see one, but is there a way as in Outlook Express to download mail
from a Hotmail account into The Bat?

If not any plans to add it. I hate having to use Outlook express about as
much as Hotmail, but sadly it's needed in addition to my normal accounts for
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Re[3]: Let me explain my problem...

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Jernej,

21. november 2001, 22:50:22, you wrote:

>> If we decide to use TB with our scenario in this mode, what about changing
>> the 'Sender' and Reply to' address for the different users.  Does it exist
>> an elegant way to do this?

JS> You can use folder-level templates, and put the %FROMNAME="name" (the name in
JS> the From: field), %FROMADDR="address" (address in the From: field),
JS> %REPLYNAME="name" (Reply-To: name) %REPLYADDR="address" (Reply-To:
JS> address) to change that.

I've been playing around a little, and found out that it's even easier
- just select folder properties, and open the Identify tab - you can
set the From and Reply-To addresses there.

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2. Always keep a record of data. It indicates you've been working.
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4. In case of doubt, make it sound convincing.
5. Law of Continuity
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6. When you don't know what you are doing, do it NEATLY.
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Re: CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Jake,

On 21 November 2001 at 13:57:53 [GMT-0500] (which was 18:57 where I
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points:

JB> My Connection Center hangs periodically and does not time out,
JB> which prevents subsequent automatic checking of the account that
JB> was hung. Is there anyway to make an account timeout after, say, 2
JB> minutes, so it can be checked again automatically? Microsoft
JB> Outlook seems to do this nicely.

This is sometimes attributable to the use of ZoneAlarm. You don't say
what version of TB you are using nor on which operating system.

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Re[4]: Let me explain my problem...

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Tor,

21. november 2001, 22:23:39, you wrote:

> Interesting, does it exist an possibility to pwd protect folders so each
> user has a certain amount of privacy?

Maybe in SecureBat, but not in The Bat!.

> How are TB's folder files stored on disk, raw text files or compressed in
> some way...?

Not text files exactly, but they aren't encrypted (you can read them
with text viewer). For encryption, you'll need SecureBat.

> If I go for a solution like this I probably need some help to set up
> templates etc for a couple of users as a point of departure.  Would someone
> here be able to help me with that?

Yes.

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Re: Re[2]: Let me explain my problem...

[Tor Tveitane]

Hi,

> You can use folder-level templates, and put the %FROMNAME="name" (the name
in
> the From: field), %FROMADDR="address" (address in the From: field),
> %REPLYNAME="name" (Reply-To: name) %REPLYADDR="address" (Reply-To:
> address) to change that.

Interesting, does it exist an possibility to pwd protect folders so each
user has a certain amount of privacy?

How are TB's folder files stored on disk, raw text files or compressed in
some way...?

If I go for a solution like this I probably need some help to set up
templates etc for a couple of users as a point of departure.  Would someone
here be able to help me with that?

Thanks again, and best regards

Tor



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Re: Re[2]: Let me explain my problem...

[Tor Tveitane]

Hi again,

Just another issue which comes to my mind:  I could use a simple IMAP server
on the notebook which could fetch the mail from the server and use TB to
access this local server in multi-accounts mode.

Does anyone of you know about a simple IMAP windows mail server.

I have used Hamster a bit, but it only supports POP3.

regards

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Re[2]: Let me explain my problem...

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Tor,

21. november 2001, 21:25:21, you wrote:

> If we decide to use TB with our scenario in this mode, what about changing
> the 'Sender' and Reply to' address for the different users.  Does it exist
> an elegant way to do this?

You can use folder-level templates, and put the %FROMNAME="name" (the name in
the From: field), %FROMADDR="address" (address in the From: field),
%REPLYNAME="name" (Reply-To: name) %REPLYADDR="address" (Reply-To:
address) to change that.

> Secondly, would it be possible for several users to automatically copy sent
> msgs to their 'own' sent mail' folder?

You can probably use Outgoing mail filters for that.

> I realize that you answer is probably negative to the two questions above
> and that my only option is to have TB manage separate user profiles linked
> to separate pop3 accounts.  But maybe someone has a good suggestion up the
> sleeve??

Umm, the answer isn't negative :)

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Re: Let me explain my problem...

[Tor Tveitane]

Thanks to all for valuable input and especially to Peter for the 'Leav msgs
on server' tip.  I'll try this out, and it seems to be a great tip.

One of you asked if user1...user20 would use the same notebook for messaging
in the bush, and I confirm that.

Unfortunately the radio mail server is a commercial site which our server is
just forwarding our messages to, so it would cost us a fortune if we need to
create an account for each user with them.  So I realize that I cannot use
separate user accounts which fetch msgs from one multidrop pop account with
TB.

My option is obviously to have one account and automatically filter the
received msgs into separate folders for each user.  I have some questions
regarding this:

If we decide to use TB with our scenario in this mode, what about changing
the 'Sender' and Reply to' address for the different users.  Does it exist
an elegant way to do this?

Secondly, would it be possible for several users to automatically copy sent
msgs to their 'own' sent mail' folder?

I realize that you answer is probably negative to the two questions above
and that my only option is to have TB manage separate user profiles linked
to separate pop3 accounts.  But maybe someone has a good suggestion up the
sleeve??

Anyway I would like to thank for the enthusiasm and willingness to help I
have encountered in this group.

regards

Tor



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Re: help address book woes

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Rick!

On Mittwoch, 21. November 2001 at 21:36:46 you wrote:

>  This won't allow autocomplete though will it?

It doesn't change the autocompletion feature - if you have two entries
you are still able to utilize (so much for style!) +<+>. You
won't see the memo during autocompletion. I don't know if you can see
it without opening the AB.

As long as you can see from the address if it is work or home
everything is alright ...

Hmm, another way comes to mind: Use specific handles (nicknames) for
different addresses, e.g. John Doe's working address gets "Working"
and his home address "Home". Only difficulty, you have to choose
unique handles for your addressees.

>  Any time frame projection when this new version will be out? I'm
>  still trying to think of an adequate solution in the meantime.

There was something about it on TBBETA. IIRC, the end of this week
could see 1.54. Remember though that this depends on RITLabs and
fixing some (serious) bugs.

- From my experience with TB! I don't think it will take much longer for
the next official release. And they have given us a time frame for the
major release of v2, which is not that far from now ...



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RE: Mailto: and .VCF associations destroyed

[Jake Bramhall]

Thanks, the re-install of OL2K fixed it, and didn't even mess up my
settings!

JB

-Original Message-
From: Nick Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:48 PM
To: Jake Bramhall
Subject: Re: Mailto: and .VCF associations destroyed


Hi Batpersons,

On or about, Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 8:37:29 PM, we have reason to
believe that Jake Bramhall wrote:

JB> theBat version 1.53d seems to have severed the relationship between
Outlook
JB> and the mailto: link in browsers as well as the .VCF file association.
They
JB> are not pointing to theBat, but they are causing erratic behavior.
Where
JB> can I reassociate the mailto: and .VCF with Outlook?


The mailto: association should come back if you select the option in
Outlook to make it your default email program. You can also do this
via IE.

If that doesn't bring back the .vcf association, you can use the File
Types dialog in Windows to point .vcf at Outlook. How it's done
depends on your windows version.

Or you can reinstall OL (or in OL2K or later use Detect and Repair

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Re: Mailto: and .VCF associations destroyed

[Nick Gordon]

Hi Batpersons,

On or about, Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 8:37:29 PM, we have reason to believe that 
Jake Bramhall wrote:

JB> theBat version 1.53d seems to have severed the relationship between Outlook
JB> and the mailto: link in browsers as well as the .VCF file association.  They
JB> are not pointing to theBat, but they are causing erratic behavior.  Where
JB> can I reassociate the mailto: and .VCF with Outlook?


The mailto: association should come back if you select the option in
Outlook to make it your default email program. You can also do this
via IE.

If that doesn't bring back the .vcf association, you can use the File
Types dialog in Windows to point .vcf at Outlook. How it's done
depends on your windows version.

Or you can reinstall OL (or in OL2K or later use Detect and Repair

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Re[2]: help address book woes

[Rick Reumann]

Dierk,

On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 2:04:58 PM, you wrote:

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DH> Hello Rick!

DH> On Mittwoch, 21. November 2001 at 18:34:18 you wrote:

>> Has anyone come across an adequate solution?

DH> Have you tried using the Memo field under Others for your comments?
DH> You can show them in the AB, which may not be good enough.

 This won't allow autocomplete though will it?

DH> Another way would be to wait until 1.54 will come out officially as it
DH> seems a long-standing wish about secondary addresses will have been
DH> granted ...

 Any time frame projection when this new version will be out? I'm
 still trying to think of an adequate solution in the meantime.



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Mailto: and .VCF associations destroyed

[Jake Bramhall]

Friends,

theBat version 1.53d seems to have severed the relationship between Outlook
and the mailto: link in browsers as well as the .VCF file association.  They
are not pointing to theBat, but they are causing erratic behavior.  Where
can I reassociate the mailto: and .VCF with Outlook?

Jake Bramhall



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Re: Let me explain my problem...

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 2:11:25 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

TF>> I agree with Roloef here. The smaller the units you download, the
TF>> less you have to download "again" after a connection break.

> Let me add one thing: setup TB! to leave the messages on server. This
> might sound silly, BUT: if set up this way it stores what mails are
> already downloaded and therefore minimizes again the chance to double
> load a message. Set it up to leave on server for one day and your done
> with a minimum of overhead but a maximum of fitting your needs.

> Just my 0.02 € :-)

This is the answer isn't it. You shouldn't get double downloads at all
this way.

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LDAP revealed

[Alastair Scott]

I had some time and decided to get this (populating my own address
book from a LDAP address book) working. Done as follows:

1. Set up two new address books.

a. The first is the source, and has properties:

Name - Global Address List (for example)

Use this book as default ... - not ticked

This address book is associated with an LDAP server - ticked

LDAP server details - filled in

Return maximum 100 matches (say) - the default is 1 which won't get
you very far with a big company :)

b. The second is the target, and has properties:

Name - Alastair's Address Book (for example)

Use this book as default ... - ticked

This address book is associated with an LDAP server - not ticked

LDAP server details - not filled in

2. This done, the task is to build up your personal address book (the
target) by doing LDAP searches on the LDAP address list (the source)
then dragging matched names from source to target. To do this:

a. In The Bat! press F8 then F7, which brings up the LDAP search
window (see the picture as attached);

b. Type in the partial* name you're searching for, then tick only the
name of the source in the bottom pane (green arrows);

c. Press Start and wait for the the matched names, if any, to appear
in the right-hand pane (behind the LDAP search window);

d. Drag and drop the names you want into the target (red arrow);

e. Press New Search, then go back to step b.

By doing b-e over and over again you can gradually build up your
personal address book by drag and drop; you can always see what you've
dragged and dropped by clicking on the target's icon (the 'blue book'
in the left-hand pane) then going back to the source (the 'green
book') before doing another search.

I find that, if you make one address book both source and target, you
get nowhere; the search results _are_ the address book as each LDAP
search, as far as I can tell, replaces the address book contents (!)
Unfortunately, this part of The Bat! is both badly documented and has
a confusing, because over-complex, user interface :(

Alastair

* On my server the only match is on surnames (the addresses are stored
as ) and at least three characters have to be
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Re: help address book woes

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Hello Rick!

On Mittwoch, 21. November 2001 at 18:34:18 you wrote:

> Has anyone come across an adequate solution?

Have you tried using the Memo field under Others for your comments?
You can show them in the AB, which may not be good enough.

Another way would be to wait until 1.54 will come out officially as it
seems a long-standing wish about secondary addresses will have been
granted ...




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CC Hangs on "connecting to host" message

[Jake Bramhall]

My Connection Center hangs periodically and does not time out, which
prevents subsequent automatic checking of the account that was hung.  Is
there anyway to make an account timeout after, say, 2 minutes, so it can be
checked again automatically?  Microsoft Outlook seems to do this nicely.

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Re: help address book woes

[Devid Verfaillie]

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Hello TBUDL,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:34:18 -0500 (which was 18:34:18 in Brussels)
Rick Reumann wrote:

> Smith (work)

> and then another contact entry with the last name:

> Smith (home)

A workaround: use a dash:
  Smith - Work
  Smith - Home
or
  Smith - Work -
  Smith - Home -

I would suggest not to put "- Work/Home -" as the last name, but just
as display name.

Example:
  First name:   John
 Middle name:   
   Last name:   Smith
 Display name as:   John Smith - Home -
etc.

The above works with autocomplete.

I didn't try backup/restore though...


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help address book woes

[Rick Reumann]

Just when I think I have it all figured out:) 

Let me continue with what I am trying to do first off and then I'd
appreciate any help. I'm sure this is a common situation...

You have a contact that has two email addresses a work one and a home
email address. Now when I start a new message I want to be able to use
the autocomplete feature in the TO field ( ctrl + ) to pull up these
two addresses to select from.

What I have tried so far was putting in for a last name something
like:

Smith (work)

and then another contact entry with the last name:

Smith (home)

(Ideally of course I'd like to be able to have these two email
addresses to be able to be selected from one contact entry with auto
complete but don't see how that is possible).  Now here are some
problems...

The above situation only works with autocomplete if I start with "
(quotes) in the TO field and then use ( ctrl + ). The problem is if
the last name doesn't have the ( work ) or ( home ) ending then it doesn't
pull up any names. The other big problem is the address book does some
funky things whenever I try to back it up and restore it. I'm getting
so frustrated because whenever I try to back it up and restore it ends
up sticking the Last Name into the middle name field. (So in the above
Smith would end up being put into the middle name). So this solution I
have is not going to work.

Can someone please suggest to me the best way to get to use
auto complete for contacts where I need to have a work email address
and/or a home email address appear for the contact. I'm not opposed to
entering the contact in twice but I can't seem to figure out how to
even enter it such that it works correctly and will allow me to back
up with out any problems.

Has anyone come across an adequate solution?
Please let me know.
Thanks

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Re: SSH

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Lionel,

On Mittwoch, 21. November 2001 at 17:30:32 you wrote (at least in part):

>> (how many people do you know being able to POP their mailbox this
>> way [in % of total known e-mailing people]?).

> Err... At least 80% (all people from the two colleges I'm involved in,
> the people from a company I manage the IT system, the clients of my
> ISP with webhosting. That several hundreds of people and I know only a
> dozen or so outside of these). But then, OK, maybe I'm not the typical
> user.

OK, maybe :-) I do know exactly one: you :-)

>> So my security introduced by a SSH secured line shrinks.

> I'm not sure of that. The link between the SSH host and the POP host
> will be through the provider's localnet. If you don't trust the
> provider's localnet, you are screwed anyway, even with SSL or
> direct-to-pop-host-ssh, because of the _arrival_ of the mail (SMTP)!

Let's imagine I trust my provider (have no reason yet for not doing
this) ... I'm dialed in (or connected via a permanent connection) to
my provider, therefore I'm still in it's local network. No additional
reason for using SSL or SSH _if_ I trust this network.
But imagine a mail hoster like GMX: they would _never_ grant you SSH
access so you're quit :-)

All in all we're walking straight off topic, I'd suggest stopping here:-)

We asserted TB! has no SSH support and I believe RIT can not effort
the time implementing rudimentary (Open)SSH functions as they have to
fix 1.54/Beta, plan to implement SSL and several other things, but
maybe one day even this functionality is given :-)
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Re: SSH

[Lionel Elie Mamane]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:58:57PM +0100, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

> >> But how would you tunnel a POP3 request through SSH?

> LEM> ssh remote_user@remote_host -L 7485:remote_host:110

> LEM> and enter "localhost port 7485" as POP3 server in you mail
> LEM> client. 7485 can be any number, btw.

> Absolutely correct! And where is the point I need SSH support in TB!?

You don't _need_ it. Would be more convenient if TB! included a
scaled-down ssh client, point.

You don't _need_ SSL support in TB! either. ssltunnel anyone?

> (how many people do you know being able to POP their mailbox this
> way [in % of total known e-mailing people]?).

Err... At least 80% (all people from the two colleges I'm involved in,
the people from a company I manage the IT system, the clients of my
ISP with webhosting. That several hundreds of people and I know only a
dozen or so outside of these). But then, OK, maybe I'm not the typical
user.

> LEM> communication is encrypted between you and sshhost, but not between
> LEM> sshhost and pophost (if they are different).

> And there my next problem is: a small ISP would have POP & Shell
> (e.g.  for WebSpace) maybe located on one machine so this is a
> secure way.  A big one will have at least and minimum two machines
> for this two very different things (just for security reasons). So
> my security introduced by a SSH secured line shrinks.

I'm not sure of that. The link between the SSH host and the POP host
will be through the provider's localnet. If you don't trust the
provider's localnet, you are screwed anyway, even with SSL or
direct-to-pop-host-ssh, because of the _arrival_ of the mail (SMTP)!

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Re: SSH

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Lionel,

On Dienstag, 20. November 2001 at 19:56:11 you wrote (at least in part):

>> LEM> So SSH tunneling _is_ easier if the machine admin is not
>> LEM> cooperative.

>> But how would you tunnel a POP3 request through SSH?

LEM> ssh remote_user@remote_host -L 7485:remote_host:110

LEM> and enter "localhost port 7485" as POP3 server in you mail
LEM> client. 7485 can be any number, btw.

Absolutely correct! And where is the point I need SSH support in TB!?
The question was for SSH support within TB! so my problem was: how
should TB! itself tunnel the connection itself establishes ... that's
_really much_ overhead to implement for this small amount of usage
(how many people do you know being able to POP their mailbox this way
[in % of total known e-mailing people]?).

OTOH:
If he's already using an external SSH tool he could setup this and
point his TB! to the local port as you suggested, but that way TB!
would not need any SSH support. You see my problem with understanding
the question?

LEM> communication is encrypted between you and sshhost, but not between
LEM> sshhost and pophost (if they are different).

And there my next problem is: a small ISP would have POP & Shell (e.g.
for WebSpace) maybe located on one machine so this is a secure way.
A big one will have at least and minimum two machines for this two
very different things (just for security reasons). So my security
introduced by a SSH secured line shrinks.
With this conditions as background I'd prefer the (planned to come)
SSL support within TB! over SSH as chances are higher to meet a SSL
supporting POP3/IMAP toaster :)
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Re: SSH

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Dierk,

On Dienstag, 20. November 2001 at 17:03:31 you wrote (at least in part):

DH> Practically no difference for him at the moment since TB! does support
DH> neither.

But SSL is planned to be implemented in near future while SSH ain't
and would not need to :-)

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Re: importing from an address ini file?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Rick,

On Mittwoch, 21. November 2001 at 04:14:15 you wrote (at least in part):


RR> I have serveral names recorded in the address book as first: John,
RR> Last: Doe (work).
RR> The problem is when I export this file to an ini file and then get the
RR> file at home and import from it it ends up setting those fields up as
RR> first: John, middle: Doe, last: (work).
RR> How come it doens't keep "Doe (work)" on the same line for last name?

I don't have found a way to avoid the annoying middle name. Even LDIF
& Tab-seperated don't work full qualified :-(

The TAB-file even had an empty field in row 'Middle Name' and even
Excel recognized it correctly but re-importing this back into TB!-AB
brought me a middle name where no was before.

The good thing is: it's the first part of the last name _doubled_ as
middle name, so the last name is completely intact, you only have to
delete the superfluous middle name.
So try out exporting as LDIF or TAB, or even try the Backup and/or
Synchronize utilities TB! offers to keep two address book in sync :-)

I'll file a bug report in BugTracking system dealing with this issue.

Hope that helps
Pit
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Re: Search for two or more separated words

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Thomas,

It was foretold that on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 18:25 GMT
+0800, Thomas F [TF] would type:

JA>> AND: word1&word2
JA>> OR:  word1|word2

TF> You seem to have known this all along, and you never told me all these
TF> years... ;-)

I didn't always know. ;-)  Besides, most of the recent conversations
have been about more complicated searches (ie two strings, each on a
different field.)  TB's search facility still doesn't handle that
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Re: Search for two or more separated words

[Thomas F]

Hi Januk,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:59:28 -0800GMT (21/11/01, 17:59 +0800GMT),
Januk Aggarwal wrote:

JA> AND: word1&word2
JA> OR:  word1|word2

You seem to have known this all along, and you never told me all these
years... ;-)

Thanks to you and to Marek, too.

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Re: Search for two or more separated words

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Hi Thomas,

On 21 November 2001 at 18:23:56 [GMT+0800] (which was 10:23 where I
live) Thomas F wrote to Marck D Pearlstone on TBUDL and made these
points:

TF>>> Are you saying the the "&" works as an AND operator in the search
TF>>> strings?

MDP>> Yes - it always has done.

TF> I have lied! I always told people that the search does not know even
TF> the most basic formal logic.

TF>>> this would be really good news. How about an OR operator?

MDP>> "words | phrase".

TF> Could you add these two to the help file somewhere somehow?

MDP>> Hang on - just got it! You have to double up the character - "words &&
MDP>> phrases", "Tools || Synchronize" to make it literal.

TF> Ditto regarding help file. :-)))

Okay, but it may take a day or three. I have a heavy workload right
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Re: Search for two or more separated words

[Thomas F]

Hi Marck,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:12:48 +GMT (21/11/01, 18:12 +0800GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

TF>> Are you saying the the "&" works as an AND operator in the search
TF>> strings?

MDP> Yes - it always has done.

I have lied! I always told people that the search does not know even
the most basic formal logic.

TF>> this would be really good news. How about an OR operator?

MDP> "words | phrase".

Could you add these two to the help file somewhere somehow?

MDP> Hang on - just got it! You have to double up the character - "words &&
MDP> phrases", "Tools || Synchronize" to make it literal.

Ditto regarding help file. :-)))

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Re: Search for two or more separated words

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Hi Thomas,

On 21 November 2001 at 17:57:58 [GMT+0800] (which was 09:57 where I
live) Thomas F wrote to Marck D Pearlstone on TBUDL and made these
points:

MDP>> Er ... it does. I just did a search for "words & phrase" and it found
MDP>> two messages in the TBUDL folder, yours and one other.

TF> Are you saying the the "&" works as an AND operator in the search
TF> strings?

Yes - it always has done.

TF> this would be really good news. How about an OR operator?

"words | phrase".

TF> And what do I do if I really mean the character "&"?

I don't know. It's not documented and I can't figure it out myself. It
just so happens that searching for 'the "&" works' works correctly
anyway (think about it - the logic is right). It's the '|' that's a
real problem.

Hang on - just got it! You have to double up the character - "words &&
phrases", "Tools || Synchronize" to make it literal.

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Re: Search for two or more separated words

[Marek Mikus]

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Thomas F wrote:

> MDP> Er ... it does. I just did a search for "words & phrase" and it found
> MDP> two messages in the TBUDL folder, yours and one other.
>
> Are you saying the the "&" works as an AND operator in the search
> strings? this would be really good news. How about an OR operator?

use pipe character - "|"

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Re: Search for two or more separated words

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello PFord,

Historians believe that Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 03:27 GMT
-0500 was when, PFord [P] typed the following:

P> Can I use a regex expression to search for messages that contain two
P> or more words that aren't in a phrase?

You can, but with the search utility, there is an easier way (see
below). 

P> I do wish the search supported simple boolean operators.

It does.  To search for multiple words/phrases, the syntax is as
follows: 

AND: word1&word2
OR:  word1|word2

For regular expressions, the OR syntax is basically the same as what
I've written.  However, the AND is more difficult because the words
can be in any order.  If you want to know the regular expression
method in any case, perhaps the TBTECH forum would be more
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Re: Search for two or more separated words

[Thomas F]

Hi Marck,

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:50:21 +GMT (21/11/01, 17:50 +0800GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP> Er ... it does. I just did a search for "words & phrase" and it found
MDP> two messages in the TBUDL folder, yours and one other.

Are you saying the the "&" works as an AND operator in the search
strings? this would be really good news. How about an OR operator?

And what do I do if I really mean the character "&"?

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Re: Search for two or more separated words

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Hi Paula,

On 21 November 2001 at 03:27:22 [GMT-0500] (which was 08:27 where I
live) PFord wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

P> Can I use a regex expression to search for messages that contain two
P> or more words that aren't in a phrase? If so, could someone give me an
P> illustration. I'm not making any headway with the Help. I do wish the
P> search supported simple boolean operators.

Er ... it does. I just did a search for "words & phrase" and it found
two messages in the TBUDL folder, yours and one other.

You're quite right - there isn't much help for the Message Finder.
I'll have to do something about that.

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Re[2]: Let me explain my problem...

[Gerard de Vries]

Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 9:11:25 AM, you wrote:


PP> Let me add one thing: setup TB! to leave the messages on server. This
PP> might sound silly, BUT: if set up this way it stores what mails are
PP> already downloaded and therefore minimizes again the chance to double
PP> load a message. Set it up to leave on server for one day and your done
PP> with a minimum of overhead but a maximum of fitting your needs.

PP> Just my 0.02 € :-)

Peter,

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Re: filtering on language

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On Mittwoch, 21. November 2001 at 04:56:39 you wrote:

> No, I just received a spam message about a diet. No sex was required,
> so I deleted it. You lost the bet.

You must have overlooked something. Any diet without sex isn't worth a
mention ...

> You are right. 50% of my private messages are about either sex or
> money, or the combination of both.

Bad count, but it shows that most of us don't have a life. Well, none
worth living. The correct ratio for sex-or-money messages to
non-sex-or-money* should be at least 9:1.

> Just a hint: "sex" in Turkish is "sex", like in most other languages I
> know.

I just took the examples given.


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Re: Interesting if you have ( ) after a name

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> (2) If you add a comment (in parentheses) to an address entry The Bat!
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Search for two or more separated words

[PFord]

Hi All,

Can I use a regex expression to search for messages that contain two
or more words that aren't in a phrase? If so, could someone give me an
illustration. I'm not making any headway with the Help. I do wish the
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Re: Let me explain my problem...

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Thomas,

On Wednesday, 21. November 2001 at 04:46:51 you wrote (at least in
part):

RO>> Regardless of your e-mail client it's better to create 20 mailboxes at
RO>> your server.

TF> [Procedure snipped]

TF> I agree with Roloef here. The smaller the units you download, the less
TF> you have to download "again" after a connection break.

Let me add one thing: setup TB! to leave the messages on server. This
might sound silly, BUT: if set up this way it stores what mails are
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