Re: HTML viewer

[Geoff Lane]

Sunday, January 27, 2002, 10:46:20 PM, Headless wrote:

> the html viewer that TB optionally uses, is that a secure internal
> viewer or does it use IE for that?
---

AFAICT, it's a very secure internal viewer that neither executes
active content nor fetches linked images.

HTH,

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Re: Exclude Signature from reply by "--"

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Vincent,

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 01:07:13 +0100GMT (28-1-02, 1:07 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

VDE> sometimes the signature of a message is left out, when replying ...
VDE> but if I put a "--" before my signature it isn't excluded.

VDE> What are the specs for the "vanishing signature"?

dash dash space

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Re: Navigation after thread delete

[Raj]

Myob,

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, at 17:29:01 [GMT +] (which was 10:59 PM where I live) you
wrote:

m> If I delete a whole thread [C+A+Delete] I move to the first message
m>   in the folder. How can I set things so that I then go automatically
m>   to the next message in the folder, rather than the first, please?

Delete  the thread after closing the whole thread. That way you will stay in the
same place.

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Exclude Signature from reply by "--"

[Vincent - D. Ertner]

Hi Co-Batties,

sometimes the signature of a message is left out, when replying ...
but if I put a "--" before my signature it isn't excluded.

What are the specs for the "vanishing signature"?

Cheers,

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Re: HTML viewer

[Eric Malausséna]

Hi Headless,

On dimanche 27 janvier 2002 at 23:46:20, you wrote :

H> the html viewer that TB optionally uses, is that a secure internal
H> viewer or does it use IE for that?

It's an internal viewer (very secure, it doesn't allow vbscript or
javascript).

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HTML viewer

[Headless]

the html viewer that TB optionally uses, is that a secure internal
viewer or does it use IE for that?



Headless


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Re: On Topic or Off Topic?

[Lars Geiger]

Hi John,
On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 16:52:27 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

>> Pass. I know nothing about hotmail (other than to avoid it ).

JS> Its a nice address to fill out forms so all spam can go there.;)

I use Yahoo for that purpose. ;-) (Way off-topic, I know. But I CNR.)

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Re: On Topic or Off Topic?

[John Seymour]

Hello DJ

DR> Will the bat work with HotMail? HotMail uses an older form of e-mail
DR> that 99% of others have discarded. 

 To receive Hotmail messages with TB, you would need to use a
 third party software such as web2pop or open an e-mail account at
 fastmail.fm. I just started using fastmail (which will be a paid
 service soon) and they are reliable and will access your hotmail
 account and transfer to their servers.
> Pass. I know nothing about hotmail (other than to avoid it ).
  Its a nice address to fill out forms so all spam can go there.;)

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Re: On Topic or Off Topic?

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On 27 January 2002 at 06:41:37 -0800 (which was 14:41 where I live) DJ
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> Thanks for your reply, it's been parked and flagged.



> Will the bat work with HotMail? HotMail uses an older form of e-mail
> that 99% of others have discarded. I think it's HTML based, or
> something like that. I'm not sure what setting to change to get it
> running. I tried it with no results earlier today.

Pass. I know nothing about hotmail (other than to avoid it ).

> BTW, which discussion is "on-topic" and which is "off-topic"?

TB's PGP support and facilities are on-topic. PGP's merits,
trustworthiness, source codes and versions are off-topic (for debating
purposes - there are some great forums already set up for that purpose).

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Re: On Topic or Off Topic?

[Alastair Scott]

On 27 January 2002 at 14:41 DJ wrote:

> Hello Marck,

> Sunday, January 27, 2002, 2:20:14 AM, you wrote:

> Thanks for your reply, it's been parked and flagged.

> Will the bat work with HotMail? HotMail uses an older form of e-mail
> that 99% of others have discarded. I think it's HTML based, or
> something like that. I'm not sure what setting to change to get it
> running. I tried it with no results earlier today.

Unfortunately not - Hotmail doesn't use standard protocols for reading
and writing email (POP3/IMAP4/SMTP) and, I believe, is _completely_
proprietary. At various times there've been attempts (elsewhere) to
set up facilities to access it with POP3 gateways and similar, but
these've been rendered inoperable by Microsoft :/

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Re: Bursting Digests

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On 27 January 2002 at 15:26:45 -0500 (which was 20:26 where I live)
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> With regard to this thread, can anyone see the difference between
> these headers? The first digest "bursts" and the second does not. I
> am willing to attempt to have it corrected, but don't see where the
> problem lies.

Not really. It's kind-of out-of-context. I'd need to see a MIME
forward.

(Hey, is it just me or are we getting recursive here - MIME forwards
or MIME digests? Whatever next?).

You'd have to send it to me off-list too. And I'm no expert on MIME
digests. Anyone want to take a peek?

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Re: Management of folders

[Geoff Lane]

Sunday, January 27, 2002, 7:37:43 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

> If you want to send me--off list--your correspondence to and from Eric
> Fookes, I'd be interested in reading it.  I have encountered none of
> those problems, and I'm not even sure how they could develop.
---
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first part of it in the Mailbag Assistant mailing list archives (topic:
Archiving The Bat!)


> MBA imports whatever .TBB files you want, separated or merged however
> *you* tell it to do it, and then keeps it nameless, in memory,
> until/unless you save it as an archive.  At that point, you can name
> it whatever you want.  I have not had any of the naming problems you
> described, in importing or exporting, single mailboxes or multiple.
> (And all of this is just using the primary grid; it's all even more
> adaptable using the subset grid.)
---
You could really help me out here. I could find no method of keeping
messages from different TB folders apart in MBA -- whatever I tried,
it used the filename as the name of the mailbox. Are you saying that
you can import TBBs into MBA and give custom mailbox names? If so,
could you please provide instructions -- I really would appreciate
them.

> Generally speaking, I think exporting to .MSG messages is advisable
> only if you want to forward messages on to someone else; it's an
> Internet standard format.
---
Agreed -- but I was grasping at straws. FWIW, I have a lot of respect
for Eric. I've used Super NoteTab (now NoteTab Light) for years and
IMO it's the most reliable and flexible text editor ever. When I
downloaded MBA, I expected great things. When all's said and done, MBA
does a fabulous job with OE and other lesser mailers. I just wish that
I could get it working with TB!

Eric suggested that Unix mailbox support may be in the next release of
MBA. For me, that would be utopia because I could then incrementally
archive to Unix mailboxes from TB and have the archives immediately
available in MBA.

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Re[2]: Bursting Digests

[ETM]

With regard to this thread, can anyone see the difference between
these headers?  The first digest "bursts" and the second does not.  I am willing to
attempt to have it corrected, but don't see where the problem lies.

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Re[2]: Management of folders

[Joseph N.]

If you want to send me--off list--your correspondence to and from Eric
Fookes, I'd be interested in reading it.  I have encountered none of
those problems, and I'm not even sure how they could develop.

MBA imports whatever .TBB files you want, separated or merged however
*you* tell it to do it, and then keeps it nameless, in memory,
until/unless you save it as an archive.  At that point, you can name
it whatever you want.  I have not had any of the naming problems you
described, in importing or exporting, single mailboxes or multiple.
(And all of this is just using the primary grid; it's all even more
adaptable using the subset grid.)

Generally speaking, I think exporting to .MSG messages is advisable
only if you want to forward messages on to someone else; it's an
Internet standard format.

JN


 Geoff Lane wrote on Sunday, January 27, 2002:

> MBA can't read Unix mailboxes and it derives its internal mailbox name
> from the name of the file that contains the message text. All TB
> message bases have the name "messages.tbb", so MBA dumps all those
> messages into an internal folder with the name "Messages" -- so it
> doesn't matter how many folders you have because MBA effectively
> merges them.

> I also tried exporting from TB to individual .msg files. Then,
> creating mailboxes from filenames, MBA created lots of mailboxes
> called "0001", "0002", ... Each folder contained files with
> the same name but from different directories. So, it placed
> ".\base1\0001.msg" in the same mailbox as ".\base2\0001.msg",
> which ensures that no two messages exported from the same TB folder
> can exist in the same MBA mailbox!


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Re: Management of folders

[Geoff Lane]

Sunday, January 27, 2002, 5:53:14 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

> Now I use Mailbag Assistant (which
> someday might soon export into Unix fomat), and am very pleased at its
> ability to sort mail and create subsets from the sort results.  If I
> need to find something from an archive, I open it in Mailbag Assistant
> and search.  If I'm unsure what archive it's in, Mailbag Assistant
> will open them all and let me search and create a view of only the
> search results.
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FWIW, I tried Mailbag Assistant (MBA), but I had to discount it
because I couldn't get it to work in a way that made sense to me.

I prefer to work in folders and having an "Archive" account in TB that
mirrors the structure of my main accounts works well. Of course, when
the message bases get very large, I may need to rethink my strategy
but, until then, it works.

MBA can't read Unix mailboxes and it derives its internal mailbox name
from the name of the file that contains the message text. All TB
message bases have the name "messages.tbb", so MBA dumps all those
messages into an internal folder with the name "Messages" -- so it
doesn't matter how many folders you have because MBA effectively
merges them.

I also tried exporting from TB to individual .msg files. Then,
creating mailboxes from filenames, MBA created lots of mailboxes
called "0001", "0002", ... Each folder contained files with
the same name but from different directories. So, it placed
".\base1\0001.msg" in the same mailbox as ".\base2\0001.msg",
which ensures that no two messages exported from the same TB folder
can exist in the same MBA mailbox!

At that point, I wrote to Eric and, after his reply, gave up on MBA.
However, it is possible that Eric will add Unix mailboxes to the
supported formats and, if he does, I'll be one of the first to sign
up.

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Re: Missing mailticker

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marck!

On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 11:07:29 AM you wrote:

>> Maybe it wandered off the screen, this is a bug that is known.

> Not exactly a bug, since TB is only doing what it was told to do -

I know what you mean, but I meant the curious wandering off which was
reported consistently for use with two monitors. And which I had
encountered one or two times without being able to see *why* it
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Re[2]: Management of folders

[Joseph N.]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sunday, January 27, 2002:

JN>> you are using the program.  But you can adopt a different type of
JN>> organizing strategy for archiving email outside the program.  That is
JN>> the "third dimension" I noted.

> Would you mind expanding on how you have addressed the issue of
> long-term archiving (outside the program)? I am relatively new to the
> Bat! and I have yet to find a satisfactory solution for this.

I'm happy to relate what I do, but I'm not sure how helpful it would
be for others.  So, first, a few words of background:  I use my mail
for both business and personal purposes.  I have two primary accounts,
one of which is for business and close personal use; the other of
which is for mailing lists, IT matters, and similar mail which I do
not want mixed in with my primary account.  I have other accounts on
the Web, but they don't fall into this mix generally.

In TB!, I keep all mail that will require some type of action or
reference.  That includes client mail on pending projects; mail
pertaining to projects I haven't yet invoiced; social mail to which I
want to reply if it contains something I want to not in my response;
mail that requires follow-up, etc.  The basic idea is to keep mail in
appropriate folders which are organized topically. As much as
possible, I try to put all my task reminders in one place (Lotus
Organizer), so if an email has a task in it, I send it to Organizer
rather than relying on the email itself to remind me that there's
something to be done. (Although I do color-code mail that needs
follow-up, and periodically search by color group.)  All this mail
that is in TB! is grouped in folders by topic, i.e., the client mail
is in a folder for each client (both outgoing and incoming); the
social mail is in a "social" folder; mail pertaining to administrative
stuff is in a folder for that purpose, etc.  There may be different
projects or threads going on within each folder, but the volume is
such that it's not too difficult to keep them clear.

My archiving strategy is somewhat different, however.  The idea there
is to keep mail in as few folders as possible and to use search
strategies instead of separate folders. I archive each client's email
(both ways) by client.  One archived email file per client per year,
although if there were a huge amount of mail I might break it down
somehow.  Mailing lists are all consolidated into one archive file.
Social mail I want to keep has one archive; an organization I'm
involved with has one archive; family related matters have another
archive; and--with perhaps an exception or two that I can't recall at
the moment--all other mail of any type goes into one miscellaneous
archive file.  I regularly move my mail out of TB! into these
archives, appending the file with the new material.

For a while, I was using Unix-style mailboxes from TB!, but opening
them by importing them was a pain.  Now I use Mailbag Assistant (which
someday might soon export into Unix fomat), and am very pleased at its
ability to sort mail and create subsets from the sort results.  If I
need to find something from an archive, I open it in Mailbag Assistant
and search.  If I'm unsure what archive it's in, Mailbag Assistant
will open them all and let me search and create a view of only the
search results.  (I can print, extract attachments, or reply through
TB! all from within Mailbag Assistant.)  Moreover, although I have no
plans to switch email clients, this archiving strategy would work
without any change if I saw the need to start using another email
program.

(Mailbag Assistant archives can be read--other than attachments--in a
word processor, and they can be parsed and read in Zoot.  When the
Unix export is incorporated, they could be picked up by any email
program that can import Unix format.)

Hope this helps.  Feel free to ask more or suggest alternatives.

JN


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Navigation after thread delete

[myob]

Hello list,

  If I delete a single message, I remain in the same place in the
  folder message list - which is fine.
  If I delete a whole thread [C+A+Delete] I move to the first message
  in the folder. How can I set things so that I then go automatically
  to the next message in the folder, rather than the first, please?
  [Yes, I know I can use C+] every time, but I'm lazy :-) ]


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PGP questions (was: Re: I've been out of touch)

[Geordon VanTassle]

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Hash: SHA1

 On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 01:40:51 GMT -0800 (which was 3:40 AM
 where I live), this spake DJ Rose on the subject of "I've been out of
 touch":

DR> I've  also wondered if PGP might be bogus in the sense that the
DR> source might've been paid to create a program that the government
DR> may already have keys to dechipering.

You might want to wander over to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
group.  They'll probably be able to answer PGP-specific questions very
well for you.  You might also want to check out http://www.pgpi.org

Now, to answer this part of the question: PGP was originally written
by a private US citizen, and the source code of the original version
was printed into a book and sold to the public, as well as being
downloadable.  Therefore, I am personally confident that it was NOT
originally written by the gov't, and they don't have "master" or
"skeleton" keys.

That's just me, though.  Others might have different views.

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Re: Cursors and font

[Alastair Scott]

On 27 January 2002 at 15:24 Headless wrote:

> New to The Bat!, can I get rid of the custom cursors that are
> displayed when hovering over links?

Wait until version 1.54 :)

(They have gone in beta versions of 1.54).

> I'd also like to change the editor font, but only a few of the
> installed fonts show up in The Bat!

That's because the editor only supports plain text email and restricts
itself to fixed-width fonts: these are a small subset of all fonts
installed on your PC (typically Andale Mono, Courier New, Lucida Sans
Typewriter, ...).

I believe that the editor is being completely rewritten to allow not
only variable-width fonts but HTML email (changes of font, size,
colour etc. within the text you write) as well; however, this change
is not in 1.54 unless it suddenly parachutes in.

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Re[2]: tbudl Digest V2 #23

[Orrie Frutkin]

Hello Dierk,

Sorry, I realized that a moment after I pushed the Send button.

I unsubscribed from the digest, and now receive all postings as
individual messages. Rather overwhelming. However I can't remember how
I chose to receive the digest in the first place. Can you instruct me,
please?

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Sunday, January 27, 2002, 4:28:34 AM, you wrote:

DH> Hello Orrie!

DH> On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 6:50:59 AM you wrote:

>> Thank you. I tried it and it worked.

DH> Not quite. ;-)

DH> You forgot to edit the subject line into something meaningful.


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On Topic or Off Topic?

[DJ Rose]

Hello Marck,

Sunday, January 27, 2002, 2:20:14 AM, you wrote:

Thanks for your reply, it's been parked and flagged.

Will the bat work with HotMail? HotMail uses an older form of e-mail
that 99% of others have discarded. I think it's HTML based, or
something like that. I'm not sure what setting to change to get it
running. I tried it with no results earlier today.

BTW, which discussion is "on-topic" and which is "off-topic"?


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Re[2]: Editing threads

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Roelof,

27. januar 2002, 14:51:31, you wrote:

RO> Doing it completely in TB would be better. ;-) Since this is way to
RO> much trouble if you're intending it regularly. View threading by
RO> subject is an alternative.

 Click View->Follow-up To in the editor. The last msgid is the
 In-Reply-To msgid.

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Re: Editing threads

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Can,

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:33:39 +0200GMT (27-1-02, 10:33 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

CBC> I am not asking why it is happening, i know that. i am only asking if
CBC> we can manually put them in the same thread or not :) if not this
CBC> could be a new feature :)..

If it really bothers you.

Export the message as *.msg, edit the file manually (insert a correct
In-Reply-To: header, that should be sufficient) and import the *.msg
back into the folder. Delete the original message and you're done.

Doing it completely in TB would be better. ;-) Since this is way to
much trouble if you're intending it regularly. View threading by
subject is an alternative.

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Re: Management of folders

[fdeb-tbudl]

Hello Joseph,

Monday, January 21, 2002, 5:16:23 PM, you wrote:

JN> you are using the program.  But you can adopt a different type of
JN> organizing strategy for archiving email outside the program.  That is
JN> the "third dimension" I noted.

Would you mind expanding on how you have addressed the issue of
long-term archiving (outside the program)? I am relatively new to the
Bat! and I have yet to find a satisfactory solution for this.


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Re: Missing mailticker

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Dwight,

On 27 January 2002 at 07:28:08 -0600 (which was 13:28 where I live)
Dwight A Corrin wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Actually, just going back to 1260/1024 with current monitor if
> possible or the TFT or some other monitor long enough to drag CC back
> into more centered real estate should work, no?

Yes - if that option is available. It may not be, since the monitor
used to reposition the ticker is no longer connected.

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Re: Missing mailticker

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Sunday, January 27, 2002, 4:07:29 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

>> Marck once or twice wrote how to get it back. I am not quite sure
>> if it was by editing the registry

> That's the only way to do it.

> Exit TB. Open RegEdit. Navigate to "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The
> Bat!\Ticker". Change the keys "Left" and "Top" to zero. Reload TB.
> Drag the ticker from top left of the screen to where you really want
> it.

Actually, just going back to 1260/1024 with current monitor if
possible or the TFT or some other monitor long enough to drag CC back
into more centered real estate should work, no?

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Re: Bursting Digests

[Dave Goodman]

Dave>>> Whether my problem is with TB! or with the formatting of these
Dave>>> particular digests, I would be able to read them if there were some
Dave>>> way to disable TB!'s apparently automatic bursting of digests.

>>  

> It's not entirely TB's fault. If the digest is being sent by the list
> server as a poorly formed MIME digest, TB can only do as it is told in
> that respect and obey the incoming data.

> The only way to turn it off is to change the setting of the list
> server not to send you MIME digests.

Since I started this thread, I've tried reading the digests in
question with TB!, Becky2, Pegasus and Forte Agent.  Agent is the only
MUA which reads them successfully.

Apparently you're quite right.  I've now looked at how these digests
are (mal)formed, and think I see the problem.  The details are
probably beyond the scope of this forum.

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Re: Bursting Digests

[Dave Goodman]

>  Looks like it has something to dao with the MIME setting.
>  I am no expert but try switching it on and off.

Apparently Marck is correct in that the digests in question are
malformed.  See my message to him further down the thread.

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Re: Bursting Digests

[Dave Goodman]

> Select the message and press , then you'll see the full source
> code of the message. Unless it's encoded you'll be able to read the
> whole thing.

Thanks very much for your reply, but unfortunately not.  :-(
Please see my response to Marck at the bottom of this thread.

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Re[3]: Editing threads

[Eric Malausséna]

Hi Can,

On dimanche 27 janvier 2002 at 10:33:39, you wrote :

CBC> I am not asking why it is happening, i know that. i am only asking if
CBC> we can manually put them in the same thread or not :) if not this
CBC> could be a new feature :)..

Yes !
I really do agree with asking for this new feature.
Becky2 can do that...

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Re: Spell checker-Language

[Geoff Lane]

Sunday, January 27, 2002, 6:48:23 AM, Paul Berger wrote:

> There is a small problem. I cannot change from American English to Australian or 
>British English.

> If I do, all the actions are greyed out:
> Automatic checking
> Check entire text
> Options
> Dictionary

> Is there a way to set this choice?
---

I had the same problems when I first selected British English as my
proofing language. In my case, it was because I hadn't installed the
international language pack (separate download from RitLabs). Once I'd
installed that pack, it all worked.

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Re: Missing mailticker

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Dierk,

On 27 January 2002 at 10:38:02 +0100 (which was 09:38 where I live)
Dierk Haasis wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> - Is my mailticker showing up in the of screen twilight zone?
>> - Now do I get it back?
>> - I it a bug?

> Maybe it wandered off the screen, this is a bug that is known.

Not exactly a bug, since TB is only doing what it was told to do -
putting the ticker at an absolute location on the screen which doesn't
exist. At worst you could say that TB is being pedantic and could
reposition the ticker if it finds it off-screen. Then again, that
would clobber the way I use the ticker - with most of it off screen to
the left and only enough showing to give me an indicator.

> Marck once or twice wrote how to get it back. I am not quite sure if
> it was by editing the registry

That's the only way to do it.

Exit TB. Open RegEdit. Navigate to "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The
Bat!\Ticker". Change the keys "Left" and "Top" to zero. Reload TB.
Drag the ticker from top left of the screen to where you really want
it.

> or through Windows built-in features (arrow keys after getting a
> certain window into focus and getting to the system's menu of that
> window).

You can't do that with the ticker, sadly.

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SOT: PGP (was Re: I've been out of touch)

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi DJ,

On 27 January 2002 at 01:40:51 -0800 (which was 09:40 where I live) DJ
Rose wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Excuse  my  ignorance,  I've  just started using The Bat for e-mail. I
> noticed  that you were using PGP and I was wondering if the feature is
> installed  into  the  software,  or do I have to find a PGP program to
> pair up with the bat.

The Bat! has an RFC 1991 implementation built in, which only allows
you to use RSA keys, support for v2 through v6.5.8 with plug-ins,
inherent support for GnuPG and only PGPTray support for v7 and above.

For all but RFC 1991 support, you have to download one of the PGP
versions.

> Also  do  you  know of a good FAQ to clue me into using it properly?

You can join PGP-Basics here:
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/pgp-basics

and read an excellent tutorial here: http://www.pro-privacy.de

> I still don't understand how you can circulate a key without having
> it collected by a third party in the same manner as spam data is
> collected.

There's little point in anyone doing this. What can they possibly do
with your public key that could harm you?

> I've  also wondered if PGP might be bogus in the sense that the source
> might've been paid to create a program that the government may already
> have keys to dechipering.

All PGP versions up to 6.5.8 have had the source code published and
carefully analyzed by the crypto-community. GnuPG is OpenSource
software, mostly developed in Europe.

> I  have  read  a  few stories about government officals quitting thier
> jobs  over the issue, but I also know that such an action is not above
> the  government  to  fake  for  the purpose of fooling the public into
> feeling falsely secure.

 I feel pretty secure about it.

> The  only  way I would know is to be able to completely tear apart the
> program,  line  for  line,  to  look for back doors. I don't have that
> technical  ability,  and  I don't think a lot of people do.

You'd be surprised how many have already done this job and passed the
code as clean (the published versions).

> I think it comes down to an issue of either trust or intuition.

It goes further than that, but then again, I've been on PGP mailing
lists for a few years now and have followed the various community
issues and debates.

Anyway, this is veering OT for this list and should really continue on
TBOT or move to PGP-Basics.

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Re: I've been out of touch

[Eddie Castelli]

Dear DJ, 

 --->>> DJ Rose / Sonntag, 27.01.2002, 10:40:51
I've been out of touch


> Excuse  my  ignorance,  I've  just started using The Bat for e-mail. I
> noticed  that you were using PGP and I was wondering if the feature is
> installed  into  the  software,  or do I have to find a PGP program to
> pair up with the bat.

You can Download from RITLabs Server the required .dll and put it into
the Main Program folder where TB! is Installed. THis gives you the
opportunity the encrypt and Digitally Sign your eMails without the
need of opening PGP. Further you still need to Install the PGP
Application.
Use the PGP 'v6.5.8 ckt6' as this is a secure (it thing even Open
Source) version. All you may need above mentioned Version can do. Quit
some user are having v7.x but to me it doesn't give me confidence.

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Re: Bursting Digests

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Gerard,

On 27 January 2002 at 09:56:14 +0100 (which was 08:56 where I live)
Gerard de Vries wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Gerard - watch that overquoting! ;-).


Dave>> Whether my problem is with TB! or with the formatting of these
Dave>> particular digests, I would be able to read them if there were some
Dave>> way to disable TB!'s apparently automatic bursting of digests.

>  Looks like it has something to dao with the MIME setting.
>  I am no expert but try switching it on and off.

It's not entirely TB's fault. If the digest is being sent by the list
server as a poorly formed MIME digest, TB can only do as it is told in
that respect and obey the incoming data.

The only way to turn it off is to change the setting of the list
server not to send you MIME digests.

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Re: tbudl Digest V2 #23

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Orrie!

On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 6:50:59 AM you wrote:

> Thank you. I tried it and it worked.

Not quite. ;-)

You forgot to edit the subject line into something meaningful.



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Re[2]: I've been out of touch

[DJ Rose]

Hello Marck,

Saturday, January 26, 2002, 8:11:14 PM, you wrote:

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MDP> Hi Costas,

MDP> On 26 January 2002 at 00:00:12 +0200 (which was 22:00 where I live)
MDP> Costas Papadopoulos wrote in
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> Thank  you  for  your  reply.  I read it on the email archive website.
>> Shouldn't  I  have received your reply by email before it would appear
>> on the website? This seems rather weird to me.

MDP> Check the routing headers of the message - it may have been delayed at
MDP> one of the MTA servers en-route while the archive copy was subject to
MDP> no delays.

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Excuse  my  ignorance,  I've  just started using The Bat for e-mail. I
noticed  that you were using PGP and I was wondering if the feature is
installed  into  the  software,  or do I have to find a PGP program to
pair up with the bat.

Also  do  you  know of a good FAQ to clue me into using it properly? I
still  don't  understand how you can circulate a key without having it
collected  by  a  third  party  in  the  same  manner  as spam data is
collected.

I've  also wondered if PGP might be bogus in the sense that the source
might've been paid to create a program that the government may already
have keys to dechipering.

I  have  read  a  few stories about government officals quitting thier
jobs  over the issue, but I also know that such an action is not above
the  government  to  fake  for  the purpose of fooling the public into
feeling falsely secure.

The  only  way I would know is to be able to completely tear apart the
program,  line  for  line,  to  look for back doors. I don't have that
technical  ability,  and  I don't think a lot of people do. I think it
comes down to an issue of either trust or intuition.

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Re: Missing mailticker

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Gerard!

On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 9:53:25 AM you wrote:

> - Is my mailticker showing up in the of screen twilight zone?
> - Now do I get it back?
> - I it a bug?

Maybe it wandered off the screen, this is a bug that is known. Marck
once or twice wrote how to get it back. I am not quite sure if it was
by editing the registry or through Windows built-in features (arrow
keys after getting a certain window into focus and getting to the
system's menu of that window).



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Re[2]: Editing threads

[Can Burak Cilingir]

I am not asking why it is happening, i know that. i am only asking if
we can manually put them in the same thread or not :) if not this
could be a new feature :)..

..Can Burak Cilingir
...27.01.2002
...11:31

Roelof Otten, 27.01.2002 02:25
RO> Hello Scott,

RO> On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:49:53 -0800GMT (27-1-02, 0:49 +0100GMT, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

CBC> sometimes i see 5 messages, 4 in a thread but the other one is
CBC> out of the thread..
RO>>> Happens mostly when people who're receiving this list in digest

SF>> It happens on lists that do not have a digest version also so maybe
SF>> some MUAs don't put message IDs in the headers. Or else people reply
SF>> by starting a new message.

RO> I know. I interpreted it as specifically meant for this list. There
RO> shouldn't be any MUA's that don't insert msg-id's, they're kinda
RO> mandatory. But there are MUA's that don't insert In-Reply-To: or
RO> References: headers. On lists where those happen frequently you'd
RO> better view threading by subject.


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Re: Bursting Digests

[Gerard de Vries]

 
ON Saturday, January 26, 2002, 8:27:07 PM, you wrote:

Dave> Hi Elaine,

>> I receive some Rootsweb digests and TB works well with them.

Dave> A fellow genealogist, eh?  :)

>> Now I click on the first Message/msg in the left lineup of TB and the
>> digest's posts' listing is shown and the individual messages appear in the top view
>> if I am interested in reading individual posts.

Dave> Yes, that's the way it's supposed to work.  Unfortunately, with the
Dave> particular lists I'm concerned with (PAF4-PAF5) it doesn't.

>> Is that what you don't like?  I am not quite certain what "burst"
>> means.

Dave> It's not a question of what I like or don't like; it's that I cannot
Dave> read messages in the digest.  I get a single 'message.msg' to the right
Dave> of the message auto-view pane.  When I click on that, the only thing
Dave> that is displayed is the first few hundred bytes, down to the
Dave> *beginning* of the first actual message within the digest.

Dave> Other email readers I have used give you the option of 'bursting'
Dave> digests or not.  A burst digest has been broken down ('burst') into
Dave> its constituent messages.  An unburst digest appears as a single email
Dave> message with the body of that message containing all the constituent
Dave> messages, one after the other.

Dave> Whether my problem is with TB! or with the formatting of these
Dave> particular digests, I would be able to read them if there were some
Dave> way to disable TB!'s apparently automatic bursting of digests.

Dave> Thanks for your reply...

Hi Dave,
 Looks like it has something to dao with the MIME setting.
 I am no expert but try switching it on and off.

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Missing mailticker

[Gerard de Vries]

Hi Bat Users,

  Bit odf a strange problem / bug. I tried a friends TFT monitor
  yesterday @ 1280/1024. I also had a look at TB in that resolution
  and remember repositioning the mailticker to the bottom of the
  screen.

Today I am back and I certainly miss my mailticker. I tried al
activation possibilities, even switching it on and off, but no luck.

- Is my mailticker showing up in the of screen twilight zone?
- Now do I get it back?
- I it a bug?

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