Re: Reply Format

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Ken!

On Friday, April 12, 2002 at 12:39:35 AM you wrote:

> I'm not sure how you do this. I've looked around and just haven't seen
> the magic words.

You'll need filtering with Regular Expressions. Something which is
usually dealt with on TBTECH.


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Re: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Gerrit,

On Friday, April 12, 2002 at 12:08:35 AM you wrote (at least in part):

GK> But: I possess the same type of certificate as you have, meaning
GK> that I am also a validated member of Thawte freemail program. I
GK> have my certificate installed on my PC, and it is valid.

Now it depends what you call 'have my certificate installed on my PC'
and where you've 'installed' the Root certificate.
If this is only in your Internet Explorer certification area you'd
have to use Microsoft CryptoAPI instead of The Bat! internal
implementation of S/MIME to verify the signature.
Otherwise you'll have to import the Root cert into TB! address book
too to be able using the internal implementation and verifying
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Re: Application Error on Start

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Moumou,

On Friday, April 12, 2002 at 2:21:11 AM you wrote (at least in part):

M> Hello again,
M> Doesn't anyone want to answer my question ?
M> Please, I really *need* to get my email to work !
M> Thank you

You could try out 1.60c before writing directly to the developers.

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attachment size

[Oleg Titov]

Hello tbudl,
   just a wish: I would like to be able to see attachment file size
   in message view window (as it is possible while composing a message
   with attachments).

   Regards,

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Re: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Peter Meyns]

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Hi Gerrit,

on Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:08:35 +0200GMT you wrote in
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GK> I think your certificate should be valid *by default* on
GK> my PC, but it isn't.

GK> I can think of two possible causes.
GK> 1. The Bat fails to recognise the root CA installed on my PC.
GK> 2. Having them on the PC (encapsulated by micros~1) is not enough. I have to
GK> install the root CA as well in the Addressbook of The Bat.

I think you're right with both causes. When you view the certification path
highlight the invalid CA root certificate and "add to trusted".
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Re: Application Error on Start

[Moumou]

Hello again,
Doesn't anyone want to answer my question ?
Please, I really *need* to get my email to work !
Thank you

Moumou

--- Moumou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Hello
everyone,
> 
> Everytime I try to load The Bat 1.53d (under xp and
> with no special programs running), I get the
> following
> error :
> 
> Application Error
> 
> Exception EAccessViolation in module thebat.exe at
> 00180E2F.
> Access Violation at adress 00582073. Read of adress
> 0654.
> 
> The messages still get received, but I can't do
> anything in the main window, and if i click ok, the
> bat closes itself.
> 
> It's a bit annoying, because I have many mails, and
> I'd be really pleased if you help me.
> 
> PS : Sorry for my english, I'm a frenchie :)
> PPS : Last thing : the program worked very well for
> while, but with no reason, this error came two or
> three days ago.
> 
> @+
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Re[2]: My Wish List

[Brien King]

> On Thursday, April 11, 2002, 4:00:55 PM, you wrote:
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> In a message dated, Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:14:11 +0200, Brien King [BK]
> wrote:
> ...

> Funny here meant 'odd', not laughable. :-) Odd, meaning that it's
> unlikely that one would really need such functionality, considering
> the power already inherent in TB!'s filtering. Anyway, let's see...

> Is Cart Commander a mailing list? Are you running a support service or
> something?


Allie,

Cart Commander is a program I wrote for tracking classic gaming collections.

The typical email I get is like this:

-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hi!

I just saw your Cart Commander program and wanted to know .


Signed,

Blah

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These get filtered to my "Cart Commander" box. I use filtering so I can
prioritize my emails based on where they get routed to.  If I know its a CC
message and I'm busy I can ignore them and then address them when I have time.
I get around 100+ messages a day (including SPAM) and I use Filtering to help
prioritize my messages and filter out the garbage.

It makes it harder to prioritize an item if it inadvertently gets routed to the
wrong place.   By leaving out the Quoted portion of the message, I can then
route based on the new information in the message.

Now I can work around it by putting my full tag line in the filter and have it
say that its NOT present, however, there could be other situations that I
haven't thought of yet. The suggestion simply makes the filters more powerful
than they already are for what I would imagine would be very little effort
(assumption on my part).

This is not a huge issue with me, its just a "Wish".



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Re: My Wish List

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Allie,

> Have you tried just double clicking on the image icon in the
> attachments bar instead of clicking on the image tab. Double clicking
> the icon will still use the internal viewer, but opens the image in
> actual size.

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Re: My Wish List

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In a message dated, Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:14:11 +0200, Brien King [BK]
wrote:
...
BK> No, its not. I get a lot of E-mails for Cart Commander and the
BK> first reference to it is usually in the Body. What else would I
BK> filter on? It can't be subject, because a lot of the E-Mails I get
BK> don't have that in the Subject. I can't do it based on Sender
BK> because I get a lot of E-Mails from people I have never talked to
BK> before.

BK> Show me a better way and I'll consider changing my mind, but to
BK> call it a "Funny Wish" is absurd.

Funny here meant 'odd', not laughable. :-) Odd, meaning that it's
unlikely that one would really need such functionality, considering
the power already inherent in TB!'s filtering. Anyway, let's see...

Is Cart Commander a mailing list? Are you running a support service or
something?

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Reply Format

[Ken & Marilyn]

Hello,

I  sent  this email earlier today but I don't think it went out. If it
did I'm sorry for the repost.

I'm  fairly new to all the neat stuff in TB! so please be patient with
me.  I  have a form on my web site that people can use to subscribe to
my  newsletter.  I  get  an email when someone subscribes that has the
following information;

hot_rum: Hot Rum
your_name: Jack Schmedlap
your_email_address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Submit: Submit

I  am  setting  up a reply template and would like to pick some things
out of this email body to include in the reply like;

Hi (insert their name from "your_name:"),

You  subscribed  using  the  address of (insert "your_email_address:")
blah, blah, etc.

I'm not sure how you do this. I've looked around and just haven't seen
the magic words.

Thanks for bearing with me.


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Re[2]: My Wish List

[Brien King]

Allie,

> Ok, but isn't it better to choose another string to filter on. I find
> it difficult to believe that the only way to identify 'Cart Commander'
> messages is to look for the string in the message body. It's a funny
> wish considering.

No, its not.  I get a lot of E-mails for Cart Commander and the first reference
to it is usually in the Body.  What else would I filter on?  It can't be
subject, because a lot of the E-Mails I get don't have that in the Subject.  I
can't do it based on Sender because I get a lot of E-Mails from people I have
never talked to before.

Show me a better way and I'll consider changing my mind, but to call it a "Funny
Wish" is absurd.

> The re-filtering works on all folders. The only filtering that is
> confined only to the Inbox is the Inbox filter rules set being run
> automatically. Otherwise you can manually apply the Inbox, replied or
> read messages filter sets to any folder.

> Or are you referring to automatic filtering of other folders using the
> Inbox filter set?

Ok, I just went back to the Filter dialog and realized what the paradigm is for
filtering.  This was a misunderstanding on my part and we can scratch that
off the list.

BK>> 7) Allow me to turn Image Scaling OFF for the internal viewer. I
BK>> get pics of screen shots, and when they are scaled down, they
BK>> become unreadable. I would much prefer to able to just use the
BK>> scroll bars.

> Have you tried just double clicking on the image icon in the
> attachments bar instead of clicking on the image tab. Double clicking
> the icon will still use the internal viewer, but opens the image in
> actual size.

Yes, I don't want to do that, it brings up another window, adding the the
clutter.


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Re: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Gerrit Kiers]

 Hello ALL,

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 7:40:59 PM, Peter Meyns wrote:
PM> My fault was to start this thread here. I intended to place it on TBOT, but
PM> somehow I missed... Let's continue there. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I don't consider this fully off topic...

Peter,
Your S/MIME sign is invalid since it claims that: The issuer of this chain is not
found.

But: I possess the same type of certificate as you have, meaning that I am also a
validated member of Thawte freemail program. I have my certificate installed on my
PC, and it is valid.

This means that i have installed the CA Root Authorities (Personal Freemail RSA
2000.08.30 and Thawte Personal Freemail CA) that are required to validate your
certificate. This is why I think your certificate should be valid *by default* on
my PC, but it isn't.

I can think of two possible causes.
1. The Bat fails to recognise the root CA installed on my PC.
2. Having them on the PC (encapsulated by micros~1) is not enough. I have to
install the root CA as well in the Addressbook of The Bat.

Any light?


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Re: My Wish List

[Allie C Martin]

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@ 22:20:56 +0200 [ Thu, 11 Apr 2002], Brien King [BK] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
BK> Ok, here are my items that I would like.

Just a few comments on some of your wishes. :-)

BK> 1) Should have the option in filters to ignore the quoted text.
BK> I've had problems where messages get routed based on my Sig that
BK> was in quoted in a reply. For example, I have "Cart Commander"
BK> route to its own mail box, my Sig contains "Cart Commander" in it
BK> and the message may get routed to the "Cart Commander" mailbox
BK> even though its not related to "Cart Commander". If I could check
BK> an option that says "Ignore Quoted Text" this would help eliminate
BK> a lot of false routings.

Ok, but isn't it better to choose another string to filter on. I find
it difficult to believe that the only way to identify 'Cart Commander'
messages is to look for the string in the message body. It's a funny
wish considering.

BK> 2) Re-Filter Messages from the Folder Menu appears to only filter
BK> on the In-Box. I would like to see this work on which ever folder
BK> I have selected. I like to organize my folders as much as possible
BK> and I am constantly making adjustments based on the number and
BK> types of E-mails I may get over time.

The re-filtering works on all folders. The only filtering that is
confined only to the Inbox is the Inbox filter rules set being run
automatically. Otherwise you can manually apply the Inbox, replied or
read messages filter sets to any folder.

Or are you referring to automatic filtering of other folders using the
Inbox filter set?

BK> 6) On the Filters Dialog "Alternatives Tab", rather than using a
BK> TScrollBox, it should be changed to a TListView (or my much
BK> preferred alternative TVirtualTree). This would make it easier to
BK> read and manage.

The filters interface should be soon undergoing a revamp. I'm
surprised it hasn't yet. I guess that's for version 2.

BK> 7) Allow me to turn Image Scaling OFF for the internal viewer. I
BK> get pics of screen shots, and when they are scaled down, they
BK> become unreadable. I would much prefer to able to just use the
BK> scroll bars.

Have you tried just double clicking on the image icon in the
attachments bar instead of clicking on the image tab. Double clicking
the icon will still use the internal viewer, but opens the image in
actual size.



If you wish to make a new query, which really is to post a new message
on a new subject to the list, you should hit the new message button
instead of simply replying to someone else's message and changing the
subject.

Replying to someone elses message will create unwanted references to
the message being replied to, and your new message to the list will be
threaded with the message referred to in the headers.

If you find creating a new message inconvenient and you really prefer
replying to another to get a post on a new topic going, then you can
still do so without causing threading problems if you delete the
'follow-up' headers by enabling the 'follow-up' to header field in
your editor (View/follow-up To) as shown in the screenshots.

http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/edit.png
http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/reply.png

You then delete the contents of the 'follow-up' field when the reply
message appears in the editor.



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Re: Upgrade

[Luc]

 Good evening Peter,

It was foretold that on 11-4-2002 @ 18:17:09 GMT+0200 (which was
18:17:09 where I live) Peter Palmreuther wrote and spread these wise
comments on "Upgrade":
  

PP> Double QuickTemplate name :-)
PP> You have two (or more?) QT's named identically.

 I has exactly the same problem. But was was strange is that TB! 1.53d
 had no problem with the double QT name.

 I only renamed one of the double QT and the problem was gone
 (although i have to say that in my case TB! started up, showed the
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Re: Account order

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On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 3:46:59 PM PST, Adam wrote:

> Does the order of accounts matter from any perspective? Nothing
> cares what is at the top or bottom?

Hello Adam,

I assume you're referring to how they're arranged in the account tree?
If so... it's an entirely personal preference. I put my accounts in an
order that makes sense to me.

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Account order

[Adam]

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My Wish List

[Brien King]

Ok, here are my items that I would like.

1) Should have the option in filters to ignore the quoted text.  I've had
problems where messages get routed based on my Sig that was in quoted in a
reply.  For example, I have "Cart Commander" route to its own mail box, my Sig
contains "Cart Commander" in it and the message may get routed to the "Cart
Commander" mailbox even though its not related to "Cart Commander".  If I could
check an option that says "Ignore Quoted Text" this would help eliminate a lot
of false routings.

2) Re-Filter Messages from the Folder Menu appears to only filter on the In-Box.
 I would like to see this work on which ever folder I have selected.  I like to
organize my folders as much as possible and I am constantly making adjustments
based on the number and types of E-mails I may get over time.

I really love the way The Bat! allows me to rearrange folders using the arrow
keys.  That is a godsend!  I have 192 folders with over 18,000+ messages and
rearranging them is simple and painless.  Being able to Re-filter on other
folders would be the icing on the cake.

3) A feature I really liked in Outlook was I could type partial addresses such
as "Bob S, Bill M, Jane D" then press Alt-K and it would automatically look for
those names in my address book and fill them out.  Sometimes it was brain dead,
but for the most part it worked great.  I know about the Alt + combination,
however, that is only one E-mail address at a time.  The other feature was that
it would auto-look up the addresses after a few seconds.

4) Allow me to Right Click in a message and pick a Quick Template to insert.
Sometimes I'll forget what the exact name is of my Quick Template and I'll have
to go look it up.  This turns it into a "Kinda-Quick Template" :-)  Either that,
or allow me to type in part of the name, hit CTRL-Space and have a Drop Down
list popup and allow me to select it from there.  (Like what CTRL-Space in
Delphi does)

5) Have an option that copies a "Redirected" message to the "Sent Items" folder
so I have a record of that.  I might be able to do this with a filter and I'll
check into it, but it would be nice to have that as an automatic thing (with the
option to turn it off for those who don't like this idea).

6) On the Filters Dialog "Alternatives Tab", rather than using a TScrollBox,
it should be changed to a TListView (or my much preferred alternative
TVirtualTree).  This would make it easier to read and manage.

7) Allow me to turn Image Scaling OFF for the internal viewer.  I get pics of
screen shots, and when they are scaled down, they become unreadable.  I would
much prefer to able to just use the scroll bars.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head and if I think of more, I'll
write those up as well.  Keep up the excellent work and thanks for making a
great E-Mail client!


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Re: Using the cookie macro in an address book template.

[Luc]

 Good evening David,

It was foretold that on 11-4-2002 @ 13:48:35 GMT+0100 (which was
14:48:35 where I live) David Stone wrote and spread these wise
comments on "Using the cookie macro in an address book template.":
  

DS> Thanks Luc, I tried that but it still used the first 'cookie' file
DS> opened for the subject after switching focus to the message pane.

 Then it will be indeed a bug as Peter mentioned. Sorry :-(

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Re[2]: Reply to/Reply to All

[Paul Cartwright]

Hello Peter,


PC>> Can you do the highlight partial text and reply ( like
PC>> highlighting and doing F4 for regular emails ?)

PP> Sorry, no. Not yet (and only god and RIT knows if ever *g*)

I kinda ASSuMEd that, just thought I'd ask ! this forum sure is a
wealth of good info!

PC>> and where can I get Imad's The Bat! plugin, I looked all OVER
PC>> ipgpp.com and couldn't find it!

PP> ,-= [ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] =-
PP> | You can download the necessary files and instructions for installing the
PP> | Plugin here:
PP> | 
PP> | http://www.ipgpp.com/bins082.zip
PP> | 
PP> | http://www.ipgpp.com/batpgp65.zip
PP> `-=
 thank You !   I will download those and check it out!
 
 

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Odd search results

[Arnie]

Hello All,

After years of absolutely hassle-free TB! use I've recently
encountered odd behavior when searching for messages.  This has only
started in the last 2 weeks.

Whenever I do a search for messages in a folder that contains a
subfolder (the subfolder option is checked) not all of the matches
appear in the results window. For instance, the status bar will show
"4 messages found in 2 folders" but only 2 messages will appear in the
results window.

To do a little testing I then did a search using the same criteria in
the subfolder and the missed messages do appear.  Thinking maybe
something got corrupted I installed 1.6 but it didn't solve the
problem.

As far as I know I haven't changed a single setting.  Does anyone
happen to have any suggestions?  This feature is one of favorite
aspects of the TB! and I use it almost daily.

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Re: Reply to/Reply to All

[Peter Meyns]

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Hi Ricardo,

on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:02:42 -0300GMT (which was 11.04.02, 21:02 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

PM>> That's because the reply-to header points to the list. Same with this
PM>> message: I hit "reply" to reply to you on this list. For replying privately
PM>> hold down  +  when hitting the reply button.


RMR> how does TB! know what is the adress to reply to when you press
RMR> ctrl+alt+reply ?

I guess, it is internally told to use the original sender's address when
those keys are pressed on "reply"... I'm not sure about the reason, but it
works. :-)

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Re: Reply to/Reply to All

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Paul,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 8:56:16 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

PC> Can you do the highlight partial text and reply ( like
PC> highlighting and doing F4 for regular emails ?)

Sorry, no. Not yet (and only god and RIT knows if ever *g*)

PC> and where can I get Imad's The Bat! plugin, I looked all OVER
PC> ipgpp.com and couldn't find it!

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| You can download the necessary files and instructions for installing the
| Plugin here:
| 
| http://www.ipgpp.com/bins082.zip
| 
| http://www.ipgpp.com/batpgp65.zip
`-=

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Re: Reply to/Reply to All

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Ricardo,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 9:02:42 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

RMR> how does TB! know what is the adress to reply to when you press
RMR> ctrl+alt+reply ?

RMR> or put on other way:

RMR> what's the exact meaning of ctrl+alt+reply ? I couldn't find it in the
RMR> menu.

It's the same as 'Specials' / 'Reply to sender' -> +
It uses 'Sender:' or if not present 'From:' to address the answer to.
It intentionally ignores 'Reply-To:' (as this you can address by using
normal Reply function).

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Re: Reply to/Reply to All

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Ricardo,

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:02:42 -0300GMT (11-4-02, 21:02 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

E>>> When I "replied to" my personal note hit a mailing list. I cannot stand
E>>> it! How can this be avoided.

PM>> That's because the reply-to header points to the list. Same with this
PM>> message: I hit "reply" to reply to you on this list. For replying privately
PM>> hold down  +  when hitting the reply button.

RMR> how does TB! know what is the adress to reply to when you press
RMR> ctrl+alt+reply ?

It's called reply-to-sender, you can find it in the specials menu



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Re: Reply to/Reply to All

[Ricardo M. Reyes]

E>> When I "replied to" my personal note hit a mailing list. I cannot stand
E>> it! How can this be avoided.

PM> That's because the reply-to header points to the list. Same with this
PM> message: I hit "reply" to reply to you on this list. For replying privately
PM> hold down  +  when hitting the reply button.


how does TB! know what is the adress to reply to when you press
ctrl+alt+reply ?

or put on other way:

what's the exact meaning of ctrl+alt+reply ? I couldn't find it in the
menu.

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Re: Original Time Zone Time in Templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Daniel,

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:09:41 -0400GMT (11-4-02, 0:09 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

DG> It seems to me that the templates are like short programs executed
DG> under theBat!  Is there a place where I can find a primer on the
DG> grammar of the language in which the templates are written?

Trial and error.  The help files. Assistance from fellow-users. The
really complicated macros are regular expressions. Those can be used
in lots of environments, not only TB, there area books written about
it, you could try that.

You could also use macros posted by others and change them to suit
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Re[2]: Reply to/Reply to All

[Paul Cartwright]

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Hello Peter,

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 12:40:21 PM, you wrote:

E>> When I "replied to" my personal note hit a mailing list. I cannot stand
E>> it! How can this be avoided.

PM> That's because the reply-to header points to the list. Same with this
PM> message: I hit "reply" to reply to you on this list. For replying privately
PM> hold down  +  when hitting the reply button.

now THAT is a nice feature ! I wondered how to do that! Can you do the
highlight partial text and reply ( like highlighting and doing F4 for
regular emails ?)
and where can I get Imad's The Bat! plugin, I looked all OVER
ipgpp.com and couldn't find it!



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Re[4]: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Colin Grant]

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Thanks, Oleg but how do I do that, in easy stages please. I can see
nothing in the dialogue window!!

Colin

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Re: thawte Certificate Installation Problems

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Colin,

@11 April 2002, 18:21:46 +0100 Colin Grant wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I see, Peter, but with V1.60 of Bat now being able to create its own
> s/mime certificates is there any point in continuing with PGP or using
> Thwate, Verisign or any other certificates.

Only that without Thawte and Verisign (and the like) there is no
authentication of S/MIME certificates. With PGP, this is accomplished
by a "web of trust", where keys are signed by other PGP key owners to
add weight to the signatory's claim to be who they say they are.

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Re: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Peter Meyns]

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Hi Colin,

on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:44:35 +0100GMT (which was 11.04.02, 19:44 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

CG> Hi, the certificate we are talking about here was generated by Bat 1.60
CG> under Account, Preferences - Edit Personal Certificates. The signature
CG> verification looks ok at this end but then I suppose it would as I
CG> have generated the cert?

I begin to understand. In order to have your sig show up "valid", I'd have
to add _you_ in my address book of trusted CA (Certification Authority).
Right. That's why it was the only option given here...

Colin, to get an S/MIME signature working, you need a verification from a
superior authority like Thawte or Verisign. This is the way the "Web Of
Trust" works wit5h S/MIME certs. Have a look at www.thawte.com .

It is different from PGP's web of trust, which relies on the users'
responsibility.
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Re[2]: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Colin Grant]

Why TBOT - as this is a BAT specific problem I'd have thought this
was ok. Or am I missing something Peter.

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Re[3]: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Oleg Titov]

Hello Colin,
   it is not enough just to generate the certificate. You need to
   generate the Request from the same dialog window *and* submit it to
   Certification Authority for verification and later signing. The CA
   will respond to your request with file confirming your data. You'll
   install that file and after that you'll be able to use it without
   problem.

Regards,

Oleg

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 12:44:35 PM, you wrote:

CG> Hi, the certificate we are talking about here was generated by Bat 1.60
CG> under Account, Preferences - Edit Personal Certificates. The signature
CG> verification looks ok at this end but then I suppose it would as I
CG> have generated the cert?

CG> Apart from that, I'm lost

CG> Colin

CG> PS - I've signed this one also.



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Re[2]: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[Roberto Machorro]

So odd! It didn't crash on my end, but I do get crashes with some
animated GIFs.

For the record I'm using Windows 98SE, PIII 500Mhz 128MB RAM

Roberto


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CP> The attached gif causes a crash with The Bat! on my PC.

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Re: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Oleg Titov]

Hello Peter,
   try to visualize the certificate, take a look on issue, usually
   they put a reference to their web site. Visit that web site, look
   for "instal CA certificate", download certificates, they should
   install automatically. Probably that would be a good idea to use
   IExplorer for that operation.

   If you could not find "install CA certificates", try to locate
   "latest CRL" or "Certificate Revocation List". The download would
   be bigger, but it also contains CA certificates. (btw, it's a good
   practice to update your CRLs).

   Regards,

   Oleg Titov
   

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 12:03:52 PM, you wrote:

PM> Hi all,

PM> in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Colin Grant attached an
PM> S/MIME sig that shows up bad - no, that's the PGP term - invalid here.
PM> The reason given is:

PM> ,- [  ]
PM> | The CA Root S/MIME certificate is not trusted because it is not in the
PM> | Trusted Root CA address book
PM> `-

PM> Under "Certification Path" there is only the invalid sig.

PM> Where or how do I get missing CA certs?

PM> Regards
PM> Peter



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Re: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Colin Grant]

Peter, I think it was my fault. Is this any better?
Colin



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Re[2]: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Colin Grant]

Hi, the certificate we are talking about here was generated by Bat 1.60
under Account, Preferences - Edit Personal Certificates. The signature
verification looks ok at this end but then I suppose it would as I
have generated the cert?

Apart from that, I'm lost

Colin

PS - I've signed this one also.



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Re: S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Colin,

on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:25:35 +0100GMT (which was 11.04.02, 19:25 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

CG> Peter, I think it was my fault. Is this any better?
CG> Colin

No, it's quite the same.

My fault was to start this thread here. I intended to place it on TBOT, but
somehow I missed... Let's continue there. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re[2]: thawte Certificate Installation Problems

[Colin Grant]

I see, Peter, but with V1.60 of Bat now being able to create its own
s/mime certificates is there any point in continuing with PGP or using
Thwate, Verisign or any other certificates.

Thanks
Colin



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S/MIME - CA Root certificates

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Colin Grant attached an
S/MIME sig that shows up bad - no, that's the PGP term - invalid here.
The reason given is:

,- [  ]
| The CA Root S/MIME certificate is not trusted because it is not in the
| Trusted Root CA address book
`-

Under "Certification Path" there is only the invalid sig.

Where or how do I get missing CA certs?

Regards
Peter
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Re: Reply to/Reply to All

[Peter Meyns]

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Hi ETM,

on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:56:09 -0400GMT (which was 11.04.02, 16:56 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

E> When I "replied to" my personal note hit a mailing list. I cannot stand
E> it! How can this be avoided.

That's because the reply-to header points to the list. Same with this
message: I hit "reply" to reply to you on this list. For replying privately
hold down  +  when hitting the reply button.

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Peter

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Re: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[Costas Papadopoulos]

Hello wired,

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 6:27:57 PM, you wrote:

> ON Thursday, April 11, 2002, 5:15:02 PM, you wrote:

CP>> This is a forwarded message

> Hi Costas,

> It runs perfectly on my machine with the internal and external viewer.
> CPU usage is between 0 and 1% with 55 processes running on my p4
> 1.7/512mb rim.

> Hope this helps.

This is what it looks like on my 266MHz Pentium II PC (198MB RAM,Windows 98SE
and a Diamond Stealth V330 4MB AGP graphics card), a fraction of a second before
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Re: A tb wish

[Claude Renaud]

Bonjour Nick Danger 

Le mercredi 10 avril 2002, 20:01:56, vous avez écrit :

> Subject: A Tb Wish
>From: Claude Renaud
> ~~

> Hello Claude,

>> so I had to setup up a ldap exchange address book to access the
>> exchange ab

> If I might be so bold as to ask how you do this I would like to try
> that - I wondered if there was a way to access the Exchange address
> book. Is there any secret or am I just lacking in the knowledge of
> what settings I need to have?

> Thanks for any advice.



Hi Nick


   It's  very  simple.  You  have  to create an address book, edit its
   properties,  choose  the ldap tab and checke the "this address book
   is  associated  with  a  ldap server" and then in the address field
   enter  the  name of your exchange server. that's all. I send you my
   address  book  configuration  as  an  example  and if you need more
   information write me back.


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Re: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Thursday, April 11, 2002, 10:15:02 AM, Costas Papadopoulos wrote:

> The attached gif causes a crash with The Bat! on my PC.

eyebrows wiggle fine here

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Re: thawte Certificate Installation Problems

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Colin,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 6:25:54 PM you wrote in
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CG> I'm pretty new to this encryption/signing stuff so please excuse my
CG> ignorance but what is the significance of Thwate not supporting PGP

The most significant difference is:

Thawte is supporting S/MIME
   vs.
PGP   _is_PGP

It's like milk and wine: both something to drink, but not the same :-)
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Re[2]: thawte Certificate Installation Problems

[Colin Grant]

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Thanks, Paul - I'll try again. I've moved up to Bat 1.60 now anyway.

I'm pretty new to this encryption/signing stuff so please excuse my
ignorance but what is the significance of Thwate not supporting PGP

Regards
Colin

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Re: Upgrade

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Phil,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 5:51:37 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PH> was something like 'Error mNewQT_QT_??? already found " or

Double QuickTemplate name :-)
You have two (or more?) QT's named identically.

The 'secure' way is to rename all file called 'ACCOUNT.QTN' except one,
start TB!, write down QT-names. Stop TB!, rename the last 'ACCOUNT.QTN',
name an other back to 'ACCOUNT.QTN', start TB!, write down QT-names ... and
so on.

Know you should know which QT's have identical names. So you can enable
_one_ (a last time, I promise *G*), start TB! again, rename affected QTs,
stop TB! and rename all 'ACCOUNT.QTN' back. The error message should be
gone next time you start TB!.

An ideal target name when renaming the files can be 'ACCOUNT.QT_' as this
is easy to recognize and change back :-)

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Re: thawte Certificate Installation Problems

[Paul Cartwright]

Hello Colin,
an aside note. I went back to Thawte to get a new certificate for this
email account, and I got most of the way through the process until it
got to the part about generating the key pair. It gave me an error ( I
forget the text 3 words) but basically I tried all the different types
of encoding and got the same error. I had to EXIT from the PGPKeys
tray program, THEN it worked.
for those that want to get their own free thawte certificate, here is
their home page:
https://www.thawte.com/contents.html

( look under personal certificates)


you basically sign up, and request a certificate, they send you the
signup info by email. I have certificates for each email ID I use.
Thawte also mentioned that they are discontinuing PGP support.

later,
Paul

Wednesday, April 10, 2002, 4:29:17 PM, you wrote:

CG> A couple of problems this end:

CG> 1) Installed a Thawte e-mail certificate but it does not work. In
CG> following the import into Bat the entire "Edit Personal Certificates"
CG> functionality in Accounts, Preferences vanished completely!

CG> 2) As a result of (1) I tried to uninstall and reinstall Bat but uninstall
CG> would not work! I deleted all the files I could find and then reinstalled.
CG> It was a messy install and whilst the Bat is now working I have no templates
CG> for my mails.

CG> I'm running Windows XP.

CG> Any ideas folks?



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Re: Lost!

[Carsten Thönges]

Hi Rick, hi list,

* Rick Sovitzky (RS) writes:

RS>   Well, things are really hosed now!  Did the Ctl-Alt-Shft-L and now I
RS> have all all but the top account duplicated under the top account
RS> besides being in their rightful place as peers to my top account!  I
RS> have an Inbox within an Inbox, I have a set of Inbox, Trash, etc.
RS> folders all by themselves NOT within any account and their contents
RS> duplicate folders' contents from within an account.

RS> Have had no problems until upgrade to 1.6.  Any more words of wisdom?

Before doing anything else BACKUP your message base!

Then you can try to delete the new unwanted Folders "leaving the
message base files _INTACT_".

IMHO this Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L thing became a problem with the
introduction of common folders. When trying to find lost common
folders (cursor on commen folder when pressing the key combination) it
gets confused with the normal account directories and common folders
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Re[2]: Anway to clone and account?

[Clint]

Hi Peter,

Thanks, that worked fine.

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> Copy the account directory in your preferred file manager and create
> a new account in TB! named exactly like this directory. TB! will
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Re: WinFax Pro and The Bat!

[wired]

ON Thursday, April 11, 2002, 4:59:13 PM, you wrote:

MAU> Hello all,

MAU> I have been using the tandem WinFax Pro/Outlook Express to send faxes
MAU> by e-mail for some time now. This should be also possible with other
MAU> (MAPI compliant?) e-mail clients as well.

MAU> Two questions:

MAU> 1.- Is there anyone out there using WinFax Pro and The Bat! for this?
MAU> Or, has anyone tried to?

MAU> 2.- I am willing to test if the tandem with TB! works, but it looks
MAU> like the first I should do is "Install TB! as the simple MAPI request
MAU> handler" from Options/Preferences/Applications, and I don't know:
MAU> a.- What are the consequences of selecting this option in TB!
MAU> (i.e. can I "break" something that I may later regret?)
MAU> b.- How do I un-install "TB as the simple MAPI..." if after the
MAU> tests if the combination WinFAX Pro/The Bat! doesn't work?

MAU> Thank you in advance.

Hi Miguel,

I am running Winfax pro 9.0 and TB! but I don't fax per email.
I have TB! installed as simple mapi handler with not adverse effect.
To reverse this you should rename the old mapi.dll and overwrite the new
one.
This is explained in a pop-up window when you press that install button.
Let me know if it works and with what version of Winfax.

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Re[2]: Upgrade

[Phil - Home]

Hello Peter,

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 12:04:00 PM, you wrote:

PP> Hello Phil,

PP> On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 4:42:55 PM you wrote in
PP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PH>> I was using V 1.53D and downloaded new 1.60 and instructions were to
PH>> simply install over existing version.

PH>> This doe not work an error message is generated has anyone had this
PH>> problem an know cure?

PP> It would make things a little more easy if you could provide us with the
PP> exact error message ... !?!?

I had tried to send earlier email but this upgrade forced me to use
email at office and i can send actual proble tommorrow.

The program installed fine.
When I tried to run the Bat Logo would appear and then a message that
was something like 'Error mNewQT_QT_??? already found " or
something like that would appear and program was un-useable. I had to
kill using System Task Manager

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Re: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Costas,

11. april 2002, 17:15:02, you wrote:

CP> It lets you 'experience' email in so many ways.

Let me guess - incredimail :)

CP> The attached gif causes a crash with The Bat! on my PC.

The GIF is a little broken, but it's just that some frames don't have
"remove previous frame" flag set properly (the first frame doesn't
have it, so after the first loop, the last frame stays visible behind
the first, and some frames have it set in some strange manner, so some
viewers display only the moving eyebrows - w/o the rest of frame). The
Bat and Opera display it the same way (last frame stays visible when
the first frame is drawn), IE6 displays it as the author intended,
while IrfanView and K-Meleon 0.65 (Moz-0.9.9) display the
"eyebrows-only" frame.

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Re: thawte Certificate Installation Problems

[Paul Cartwright]

Hello Colin,

 I just imported my certificates into The Bat ( 5 of them) with no
 problems. I am runnung win2000 though, not XP. I don't have one for
 the email account for this list, but I'll get one and try it.

 Paul

CG> 1) Installed a Thawte e-mail certificate but it does not work. In
CG> following the import into Bat the entire "Edit Personal Certificates"
CG> functionality in Accounts, Preferences vanished completely!

CG> 2) As a result of (1) I tried to uninstall and reinstall Bat but uninstall
CG> would not work! I deleted all the files I could find and then reinstalled.
CG> It was a messy install and whilst the Bat is now working I have no templates
CG> for my mails.

CG> I'm running Windows XP.

CG> Any ideas folks?

CG> Kind Regards
CG> Colin



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Re: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Costas Papadopoulos wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> The attached gif causes a crash with The Bat! on my PC.

Not confirmed (1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6).

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Re: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[wired]

ON Thursday, April 11, 2002, 5:15:02 PM, you wrote:

CP> This is a forwarded message

Hi Costas,

It runs perfectly on my machine with the internal and external viewer.
CPU usage is between 0 and 1% with 55 processes running on my p4
1.7/512mb rim.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Upgrade

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Phil,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 4:42:55 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PH> I was using V 1.53D and downloaded new 1.60 and instructions were to
PH> simply install over existing version.

PH> This doe not work an error message is generated has anyone had this
PH> problem an know cure?

It would make things a little more easy if you could provide us with the
exact error message ... !?!?
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Remove own alias from replies

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

I receive email under two different names in the same POP3 mailbox (e.g.
there is an alias for my address). When I use reply-to-all my alias
address that the original mail went to is put in the Cc field. How can I
get rid of this? I already tried to enter my alias address in the account
settings but that didn't help.

To clarify:

The account is set up with [EMAIL PROTECTED] as main address, mail sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] also ends up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] POP3 inbox. Now when I reply to
a mail that went to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that address gets put in the Cc field. How
do I tell the Bat that it should ignore [EMAIL PROTECTED] just as it ignores
(drops) [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

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Re: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[Costas Papadopoulos]

This is a forwarded message
From: [edited by me]
To:   [edited by me]
Date: Thursday, April 11, 2002, 12:38:55 AM
Subject: Take a look!

===8<==Original message text===
Hi,



I just found this email application, xx . You've got to check it
out. Trust me, I wouldn't have sent this to you if I didn't mean it.



It lets you 'experience' email in so many ways.

www..com

Let me know how it goes.

===8<===End of original message text===

The attached gif causes a crash with The Bat! on my PC.


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Re: A tb wish

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hash: SHA1

Hi Nick,

@11 April 2002, 09:59:09 -0500 (15:59 UK time) Nick Danger wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Okay, our network admin is being a butthead and won't tell me the
> server address because he hates the fact I refuse to use Outlook.
> What format would this normally be in?

> Is it an I/P type address: 192.9.XXX.XXX?
> Or is it a "server.domain type of thing?
> or something else all together?

> Thanks for any help to try and work my way around this guy.

Open up a DOS box and PING the server by name. Then you'll have the IP
address. Problem solved.

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WinFax Pro and The Bat!

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello all,

I have been using the tandem WinFax Pro/Outlook Express to send faxes
by e-mail for some time now. This should be also possible with other
(MAPI compliant?) e-mail clients as well.

Two questions:

1.- Is there anyone out there using WinFax Pro and The Bat! for this?
Or, has anyone tried to?

2.- I am willing to test if the tandem with TB! works, but it looks
like the first I should do is "Install TB! as the simple MAPI request
handler" from Options/Preferences/Applications, and I don't know:
a.- What are the consequences of selecting this option in TB!
(i.e. can I "break" something that I may later regret?)
b.- How do I un-install "TB as the simple MAPI..." if after the
tests if the combination WinFAX Pro/The Bat! doesn't work?

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Re: A tb wish

[Nick Danger]

Subject: A Tb Wish
   From: David Elliott
~~

Hello David,

> It is just settings I expect. these are mine (almost)

> Address 'your server address'

Okay, our network admin is being a butthead and won't tell me the
server address because he hates the fact I refuse to use Outlook.
What format would this normally be in?

Is it an I/P type address: 192.9.XXX.XXX?
Or is it a "server.domain type of thing?
or something else all together?

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Reply to/Reply to All

[ETM]

A reply to a mailing list post from

[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Joseph O. P(disabled)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

became

Joseph O. P(disabled) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Clearly, a reply to all and a deletion would have avoided this
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"replied to" my personal note hit a mailing list.  I
cannot stand it!  How can this be avoided.

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Re: New Connection = No Connection

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Databug,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 4:13:15 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

D> I wanted to change my dialup prefs by renaming the connections in the
D> Controlpanel/networkconnection. But when I dialled up with the newly
D> renamed connection The bat would no longer log into my EMail account.
D> I tried severall times with diffrent dialup numbers. Yet Outlook
D> managed it. Is there any way around this?

Have a look into 'Options' / 'Network and Administration' for your dial-up
settings. Additionally have a look at account properties / 'Network'.

If in doubt change them (e.g. to 'nothing'), confirm and change them back
to what they should be.

This should help, I think TB! is just somehow 'confused' which to use right
now :-)
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Re: Using the cookie macro in an address book template.

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello David,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 2:00:39 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

DS> Am I asking too much from The Bat! or doing something wrong? It looks
DS> as if only one cookie file can be opened per message?

That's correct, IIRC.
TB! seems to not be able to open a second cookie file in the very same
message. Don't ask why, I don't know. I just remember this was already
discussed a long time ago and it seems it never was fixed or re-introduced.

I'd suggest: https://bt.ritlabs.com/ and looking if already reported. If
not: file a bug report :-)
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Re: animated gifs use up to 80% processor power on an athlon xp1700+

[Costas Papadopoulos]

Hello Allie,

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 12:34:55 AM, you wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> @ 16:47:52 +0200 [ Wed, 10 Apr 2002], Costas Papadopoulos [CP] wrote
> these words of wisdom:
> ...
CP>> I have a problem with animated gifs crashing on my PC, sometimes.

> What application attempts to show them? Do you use TB!'s internal
> viewer or an external application?

Even  if I check the option for an external viewer the program crashes
if  the incoming message is html formatted and containg gifs. Breaking
the  protocol, I shall forward to you in a separate message an example
sent  to  me  by  a  friend today. Coincidentally, but ironically, the
message concerns another email client. Anyway, this message causes The
Bat! to crash on my PC after 4-5 seconds.

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Upgrade

[Phil - Home]

Hello

I was using V 1.53D and downloaded new 1.60 and instructions were to
simply install over existing version.

This doe not work an error message is generated has anyone had this
problem an know cure?

  

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Re: Anway to clone and account?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Clint,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 2:44:32 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

C> Is there a way to clone an account either inside or outside The Bat!?
C> I have all settings the way I like (column header widths, fonts,
C> colors, sigs, etc.) and I would like to not have to go through the
C> tedious process of resetting them for each account. I would basically
C> like to copy an account and only reset the name of the account, and
C> the transport settings. I have tried copying and renaming an account
C> directory, but The Bat! doesn't see the new account. Thanks for any
C> suggestions.

Copy the account directory in your preferred file manager and create a new
account in TB! named exactly like this directory. TB! will recognize all
settings when it sees the directory.
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Reply Format

[Ken & Marilyn]

Good Morning,

I'm  fairly new to all the neat stuff in TB! so please be patient with
me.  I  have a form on my web site that people can use to subscribe to
my  newsletter.  I  get  an email when someone subscribes that has the
following information;

hot_rum: Hot Rum
your_name: Jack Schmedlap
your_email_address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Submit: Submit

I  am  setting  up a reply template and would like to pick some things
out of this email body to include in the reply like;

Hi (insert their name from "your_name:"),

You  subscribed  using  the  address of (insert "your_email_address:")
blah, blah, etc.

I'm not sure how you do this. I've looked around and just haven't seen
the magic words.

Thanks for bearing with me.


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New Connection = No Connection

[Databug]

Hello all,
I wanted to change my dialup prefs by renaming the connections in the
Controlpanel/networkconnection. But when I dialled up with the newly
renamed connection The bat would no longer log into my EMail account.
I tried severall times with diffrent dialup numbers. Yet Outlook
managed it. Is there any way around this?

That`s all for now

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Re: A tb wish

[David Elliott]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hail Nick

On 10 April 2002 at 13:01:56 -0500 (which was 19:01 where I live) Nick
Danger   rearranged electrons to get

>> so I had to setup up a ldap exchange address book to access the
>> exchange ab

ND> If I might be so bold as to ask how you do this I would like to try that
ND> - I wondered if there was a way to access the Exchange address book. Is
ND> there any secret or am I just lacking in the knowledge of what settings
ND> I need to have?

It is just settings I expect. these are mine (almost)

Under the LDAP tab

Tick ..'This address book is associated with a LDAP server'

Address 'your server address'
Port ...'389'
Return maximum .'1000'
Search Timeout .'0'
Tick ...'Login with an user name and password'
User name ..'cu=user, cn=domain'
password ...''

I hope this helps.

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Re: A tb wish

[David Elliott]

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Hello Claude

On 10 April 2002 at 19:13:59 +0200 (which was 18:13 where I live) Claude
Renaud might have written



CR> At work I use the bat! to send/receive e-mail through a exchange server,
CR> so I had to setup up a ldap exchange address book to access the exchange
CR> ab . When I send e-mails the autocompletionfeature does not work with
CR> that kind of address book.

The auto-complete does not work but the ctrl and numeric + work

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Re: Using the cookie macro in an address book template.

[David Stone]

Hello,

Thursday, April 11, 2002, 1:19:20 PM, you wrote:


DS>> Am I asking too much from The Bat! or doing something wrong? It looks
DS>> as if only one cookie file can be opened per message?

L>  I'm out on limb here but have you tried to create another coockie
L>  file e.g. "cookies" and place in in the \The Bat!\folder and point to
L>  that path?

L>  That way you have two cookie files, one "subject", one "cookies" to
L>  point to. Maybe that works?

Thanks Luc, I tried that but it still used the first 'cookie' file
opened for the subject after switching focus to the message pane. I
even tried placing the various cookie files elsewhere.


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Re: gular expression needed

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Paulius,

11. april 2002, 12:33:54, you wrote:

PK> i could not find any example ot The Bat reg expression for doing
PK> following:

Try this:

=8<---[ QuickTemplate: Quote ]
%quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(%-
-*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
_{40,}\s*\n|%-
\n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
-+\s+.*roups.*~--\>|-Original)|%-
\n+Get your FREE download|%-
\z)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="4"'
=8<

Put this in your reply template, in place of %quotes:
%QINCLUDE="Quote"

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Re: Lost!

[Rick Sovitzky]

Hi,

  Well, things are really hosed now!  Did the Ctl-Alt-Shft-L and now I
have all all but the top account duplicated under the top account
besides being in their rightful place as peers to my top account!  I
have an Inbox within an Inbox, I have a set of Inbox, Trash, etc.
folders all by themselves NOT within any account and their contents
duplicate folders' contents from within an account.

Have had no problems until upgrade to 1.6.  Any more words of wisdom?

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Anway to clone and account?

[Clint]

Hi,

Is there a way to clone an account either inside or outside The Bat!?
I have all settings the way I like (column header widths, fonts,
colors, sigs, etc.) and I would like to not have to go through the
tedious process of resetting them for each account. I would basically
like to copy an account and only reset the name of the account, and
the transport settings. I have tried copying and renaming an account
directory, but The Bat! doesn't see the new account. Thanks for any
suggestions.

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Re: Using the cookie macro in an address book template.

[Luc]

 Good afternoon David,

It was foretold that on 11-4-2002 @ 13:00:39 GMT+0100 (which was 14:00
where I live) David Stone wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Using the cookie macro in an address book template.":
  


DS> Am I asking too much from The Bat! or doing something wrong? It looks
DS> as if only one cookie file can be opened per message?

 I'm out on limb here but have you tried to create another coockie
 file e.g. "cookies" and place in in the \The Bat!\folder and point to
 that path?

 That way you have two cookie files, one "subject", one "cookies" to
 point to. Maybe that works?

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Using the cookie macro in an address book template.

[David Stone]

Hello,

In a 'new message' template in the AB I have included the following macros...

%SUBJECT="%COOKIE='C:\Program Files\The Bat!\subject.txt' Reference Number 
%TRACKINGNUMBER"

[%SUBJ]

...%COOKIE

Which correctly creates a new message with a subject header taken at
random from the file subject.txt, creates the repeated subject in []
brackets in the message pane and then at the end adds a random cookie
from the accounts' cookie file.

However when I click in the message pane (change focus) to write the
text the ...%COOKIE line changes and becomes the one selected from the
file 'subject.txt' as shown in the subject header.

I've even tried pointing the ...%COOKIE line to a different file and
that works only until I change focus to the message pane.

Am I asking too much from The Bat! or doing something wrong? It looks
as if only one cookie file can be opened per message?



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PGP and Mailing Lists

[Michael Disabato]

I'm interested in using TB! for a small mailing list. Is it possible
to have TB! detect incoming mail as being encrypted to the list key
and then have it re-encrypted to the subscriber keys before sending it
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Re: Regular expression needed

[Geoff Lane]

On 11 April 2002, 11:33, Paulius Kilikevièius wrote:

> So actually I don't need the lines below "---Original message---"

> how can i do this?
---

Probably, the easiest way is to select (highlight) the text you want
to quote, then press F4.

HTH,

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Regular expression needed

[Paulius Kilikevièius]

Hello,

i could not find any example ot The Bat reg expression for doing
following:

When I receive an email if looks like this:

Hello, this is a test

-Original Message-
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:39 AM
To: my friend
Subject: Re: the test

> Please, reply me.




So, I need _my_ reply message to be like this:

> Hello, this is a test

and not like this:

> Hello, this is a test
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:39 AM
> To: my friend
> Subject: Re: the test
> 
>> Please, reply me.

So actually I don't need the lines below "---Original message---"



how can i do this?

Sincerely
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Re: mxm_crd@student.uci.agh.edu.pl

[David van Zuijlekom]

Hello Michal,

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 08:33:52 +0200, you wrote concerning
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]':
...

Let me guess. Folder template?

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