Re: smart filter for worm viruses :-)

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Liviu FEODOROV (RAL Computers),

On Monday, April 22 2002 at 04:39 AM PDT, you wrote:

 I want to make a simple filter: 

Be careful that you don't start a new message by changing the subject of
an existing Reply. You may not reach enough List Members to help you
because they may have decided not to read the original subject thread.

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Re: Folder colours

2002-04-23 Thread Mandara

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 13:50:57  +1200 Carren wrote:

CS I have one of my accounts set up with multiple folders and sub folders
CS for all my list mail. All the received folders are blue. I have no
CS recollection of making them blue - they just are! I have just created
CS another set of folders/sub folders for yet another list I have
CS subscribed to, but the received folder in this tree doesn't appear
CS as blue. Is there anyway I can make it the same colour as the others?

Color of the folders signifies state/status of the mail inside. If you
have unread messages, then folder is blue. If you have unread messages
in subfolder[s], then main folder is marked with red check[ing] sign,
etc.

If you like to turn blue colored folder in yellow one (as others are),
then you just make all messages in it read. But I wouldn't do that
just for a color game. :-)

+ Principle of painting of folders is, therefore, status of messages
inside.

Experiment a bit, and you'll find more meanings about colors. Have a fun
fun.

Mandara
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Re: Folder colours

2002-04-23 Thread Carren Stuart

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On Tuesday, 23 April 2002 at 1:50 p.m. I wrote:



CS OK ... probably yet another stupid question no doubt due to yet
CS another brain freeze on my part :-)

CS I have one of my accounts set up with multiple folders and sub
CS folders for all my list mail. All the received folders are blue.
CS I have no recollection of making them blue - they just are! I have
CS just created another set of folders/sub folders for yet another
CS list I have subscribed to, but the received folder in this tree
CS doesn't appear as blue. Is there anyway I can make it the same
CS colour as the others?

Duh! I was right - brain freeze again! Thanks Melissa :-)

When will I ever learn!


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startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread achdut

When I start up The Bat, I receive prompt boxes that state:

Files with extension .VCF are not associated with the Bat.  Do you
wish to associate these files with The Bat?

I always say no.  However, what do files of these types do and
should I be saying yes.

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Re: Folder colours

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Carren Stuart,

On Monday, April 22 2002 at 06:50 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I am probably missing something here (as usual!) but I really don't
 remember doing anything in the first place to create the blue folders.

The Folders turn blue if they contain unread messages. ;o)

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Re: unsubscribe

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Stefan Zauchenberger,

On Monday, April 22 2002 at 05:56 AM PDT, you wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I have put remove, unsubscribe and nothing in the
 subject line, but I am still getting the messages.

Leave the subject line blank... just hit the Mailto link above and send
the message without any subject. Sometimes it takes a few days to be
completely removed from the ML for some reason.


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Re: IFrame.Exploit virus

2002-04-23 Thread Gerard


ON Monday, April 22, 2002, 11:49:25 PM, you wrote:

LL Hi Gerard,

LLIt did arrive and as you said it appears to be from
LLmy own computer and with the attachment file showing
LLup. Scary. Can people do this, send stuff like this
LLout to other people and make it appear as though it
LLis from me? I am very cautious about opening
LLattachments, and I have my AVG antivirus set to
LLcheck and update my AVG if its over one day old.
LLI even run a firewall or did, until I upgraded to
LLWINXP, which has a built in firewall ( supposedly )
LLat least I did choose to install one when I set up
LLthis connection. It is good to know that my pc is
LLnot infected. Thanks for the demonstration. But Oh
LLwhat a lesson...


 Lynna,

 There is nothing you can do about it. I only need your email address.
 The way to see that this is not send by you is  check the headers, which
 is not something the average user will/can do.
 Firewalls have nothing to do with this and yes I guess everybody can do
 this and it is mostly done by spammers.

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Achdut/Chicago,

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 8:50:35 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

a Files with extension .VCF are not associated with the Bat.  Do you
a wish to associate these files with The Bat?

a I always say no.  However, what do files of these types do and
a should I be saying yes.

These files are 'VCard-Files', means 'virtual visiting/business cards'.
If you don't associate with TB! another program will open if you receive
one, nothing more.
You can say yes, unless you have good reasons not to associate them; as you
don't even know what they are I'd assume you have no reason :-)

Another things you can do is:

- not starting a new thread with a new problem by answering to an mail on
  the list, but instead by creating a 'fresh new one'.
  This is because TB! is able to take care about 'References' in mail
  headers and if you reply to a mail these 'References' will be set. So if
  somebody (like me and many, many others on this list) sort 'Threads by
  references' your mail will show up somewhere in the middle of a thread,
  regardless of it's new subject (Try it your self, press 'Alt+1' and see
  where your message comes up. To change it back press 'Alt+0'. The
  appropriate menu entry is 'View' / 'View threads by')
- adding a so called 'signature delimiter' at least at position *1.
  The signature delimiter makes it possible mailling list footers and other
  elements below it are automatically stripped then replying to your mail.
  The signature delimiter contains of '-- ' dashdashspace followed by
  an 'enter', all in one line, without any pre- or appendings
  
a Avi
a Chicago
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Re: Inbox -- known

2002-04-23 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello William,

On Monday, April 22, 2002 at 11:51:14 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

WE So my feature request is for a remove from address book as a right
WE click option for any email address.

WE What do you guys think?

I think it is already partial available ...
Ctrl+W will add sender to address book, Ctrl+B will delete it ... I
don't know if I'd really need the very same option for _every_
e-mail-address in the message text :-)

If I don't want to receive mail anymore from a specific person and that one
is in my AB I can delete if by finding a message of him/her and use the
above mentioned shortcut :-)
If my Known filter would be active all necessary steps would be taken
this way :-)

I do rarely have people in my AB I don't receive mail from _and_ want to
delete these entries :-)
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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello achdut!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 8:50:35 AM you wrote:

 I always say no.  However, what do files of these types do and
 should I be saying yes.

They are electronic visiting cards, which can be appended to e-mails.
In your account properties you have a button Edit Personal vCard.

I'd say Yes to the dialogue.


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TB and PGP 7.1.1

2002-04-23 Thread Florian Klemenz

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Hi,

Is there a way to make The Bat run with PGP 7.x?

I'm currently using PGP 6.5.8, but I want to install PGPdisk 7.1.1
which forces me to uninstall PGP 6.5.8.

Or has anyone managed to install PGPdisk 7.1.1 without uninstalling
an
old PGP version?

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 9:28:49 AM, you wrote:

DH Hello achdut!

DH I'd say Yes to the dialogue.

And you have to say YES over and over again.
Can't TB! remember this setting and change it automatically?
I wonder what is changing this setting every time?

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Gerard!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 12:55:12 PM you wrote:

 And you have to say YES over and over again.
 Can't TB! remember this setting and change it automatically?
 I wonder what is changing this setting every time?

No.

Except you have installed OE, Outlook or IE. They just grab covertly
back extensions they assume to be theirs.



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Re: TB and PGP 7.1.1

2002-04-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Florian!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 12:28:51 PM you wrote:

 Is there a way to make The Bat run with PGP 7.x?

Per plug-in: No. Only with PGPTray.

 I'm currently using PGP 6.5.8, but I want to install PGPdisk 7.1.1
 which forces me to uninstall PGP 6.5.8.

It is - don't ask me why - recommended to uninstall previous versions.
To my knowledge all PGP versions (using original Zimmermann/NAI code)
de-install older versions. Some even tell you what to do manually to
be on the safe side.



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Filter : why ?

2002-04-23 Thread Philippe Gouillou

Bonjour,


  I've noticed in my log this surprising line :

!23/04/2002, 12:15:21: FILTER - Could not start process for rule DD.beLe 
fichier spécifié est introuvable

  The  fact is that the message corresponding has been downloaded, ...
  and filtered correctly. Where is the problem ?

  (Le  fichier  spécifié  est  introuvable means the file indicated
  couldn't be found)


  A bientôt,

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+23/04/2002, 12:15:18: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
*23/04/2002, 12:15:20: FETCH - 2 messages in the mailbox, 2 new
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!23/04/2002, 12:15:21: FILTER - Could not start process for rule DD.beLe 
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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 1:28:49 PM, you wrote:

DH Except you have installed OE, Outlook or IE. They just grab covertly
DH back extensions they assume to be theirs.


Hi Dierk,

I have to admit to using IE, but I don't use Outlook or OE.
Is there a way to deactivate IE grabbing extensions?

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Outlook conversion doesn't preserve addresses

2002-04-23 Thread Christopher Taylor-Davies

I have been trying to import my old message base from Outlook and
have not had much luck. I have selected a few folders to convert and
the process sometimes causes program errors in TB.

When it does convert I find that many messages don't have real email
addresses, so you can't reply to them or add them to your address
book. I think that this occurs with messages in HTML or RTF format.
Plain text emails seem to be converted reliably.

Is there a documented sequence somewhere for making this conversion of
messages from Outlook? I have 8 years of messages in Outlook files
that I would like to convert at some point!

I did try importing the messages into OE as one other user suggested,
but TB is unable to find my OE message store.

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Re: Outlook conversion doesn't preserve addresses

2002-04-23 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Christopher Taylor-Davies wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 When it does convert I find that many messages don't have real email
 addresses, so you can't reply to them or add them to your address book.
 I think that this occurs with messages in HTML or RTF format. Plain text
 emails seem to be converted reliably.

Did you look at both parts (HTML and text) of such messages? What does the
raw message source (use key F9) show you?

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Re: Outlook conversion doesn't preserve addresses

2002-04-23 Thread Christopher Taylor-Davies

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 1:41:26 PM, Markus wrote:

 
 Did you look at both parts (HTML and text) of such messages? What does the
 raw message source (use key F9) show you?

 Regards,

 Markus

F9 on the converted message (which TB converts to Plain Text format) reveals:

From: Christopher Taylor-Davies
To: RogerLonghorn
Subject: Web Hosting
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:21:19 +0100


Interestingly this message is an outgoing one, maybe Outlook stores
address information differently for outgoing messages? I seem to
remember that there was a difference between incoming and outgoing
messages when I was experimenting with Outlook macros.




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Re: TB and PGP 7.1.1

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Florian Klemenz,

On Tuesday, April 23 2002 at 03:28 AM PDT, you wrote:

 Is there a way to make The Bat run with PGP 7.x?

If you are referring to a TB Plugin to use PGP 7.1.1 with TB... then the
answer is no. However, using PGPTray and the Hotkeys works just fine with
TB. I don't think RITLabs is going to pursue any Plugin for PGP beyond
that of Imad's 6.5.8ckt Builds.

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Re: Outlook conversion doesn't preserve addresses

2002-04-23 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Christopher Taylor-Davies wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 F9 on the converted message (which TB converts to Plain Text format) reveals:

 From: Christopher Taylor-Davies
 To: RogerLonghorn
 Subject: Web Hosting
 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:21:19 +0100

This is really strange. My preliminary diagnosis is that the HTML has been
imported as plain text. Since the actual address is in the HTML code this
seems to have been dropped. :(

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cascading filters between accounts

2002-04-23 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

last December the following question had been asked by Paul A. Thiessen:

 [...] Is there some way to set up filtering so that it cascades - i.e.
 so that when messages are moved into the inbox box1 from filters on
 other accounts, these messages then get filtered by box1's filters
 automatically? [...]

(http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg31039.html)

Thomas F. voiced his hope that this might be implemented in the next
release (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg31060.html).

I tried and it doesn't work in 1.60c. Has anybody come up with some
workaround?

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 6:58:25 AM, Gerard wrote:

DH Except you have installed OE, Outlook or IE. They just grab
DH covertly back extensions they assume to be theirs.

 I have to admit to using IE, but I don't use Outlook or OE.
 Is there a way to deactivate IE grabbing extensions?

I don't think IE would be changing your default on v-cards. Why would
it be looking at them at all.

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1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson

I'm sure that this has been addressed  before but I could not find it in 
the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. I just 
downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me 
to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is 
there a solution?
Also, since there does not seem to be an un-install and un-installing 
from Windows control panel produces an error message, is there a list of 
all files and registry keys created by the install to allow for complete 
manual removal? TIA.





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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 4:04:03 PM, you wrote:

DAC On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 6:58:25 AM, Gerard wrote:

DH Except you have installed OE, Outlook or IE. They just grab
DH covertly back extensions they assume to be theirs.

 I have to admit to using IE, but I don't use Outlook or OE.
 Is there a way to deactivate IE grabbing extensions?

DAC I don't think IE would be changing your default on v-cards. Why would
DAC it be looking at them at all.


Hi Dwight,

Dierk sugested that IE might do this. OE or Outlook seems like the real
candidate but I would not put it past IE or Windows for that matter. I
even have tried changing it directly in the File types setting.
I will have a look next time TB! complains who grabbed it.

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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Lynna Lunsford

Hi Andrew,

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 6:02:39 AM, you wrote:

AH I'm sure that this has been addressed  before but I could not find it in 
AH the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. I just 
AH downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me 
AH to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is 
AH there a solution?
AH Also, since there does not seem to be an un-install and un-installing 
AH from Windows control panel produces an error message, is there a list of 
AH all files and registry keys created by the install to allow for complete 
AH manual removal? TIA.


I had the same problem,.No way to export from Netscape
and no built in import from Netscape to TB. Unless you
save emails individually and then open them as a .eml
or similar file in TB... Unless someone else has a way
that I could not find.

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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Andrew,

@23 April 2002, 10:02:39 -0400 (15:02 UK time) Andrew Henderson wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I could not find it
 in the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly.

There's a link to a flat version of the FAQ. You might try at
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ_flat.html, which is a
flattened out version for non-W3C DOM compliant browsers. Not that
this issue is mentioned...

 I just downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does
 not allow me to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known
 issue and is there a solution?

Not AFAIK. This hasn't come up before that I can remember... unless
anyone else knows otherwise. You might try a UNIX format export from
NS and import from there.

 Also, since there does not seem to be an un-install and
 un-installing from Windows control panel produces an error message,

It shouldn't... not that I've tried uninstalling lately g.

 is there a list of all files and registry keys created by the
 install to allow for complete manual removal? TIA.

  C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.*

  HKCU\Software\RIT\*.*

plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp.

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Re[2]: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Lynna Lunsford

Hi Andrew,

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 6:32:41 AM, you wrote:

AH Ok but my understanding was that this was a _feature_ of TB. The import 
AH wizard does indicate Netscape 6.x as being supported. So, the question 
AH remains: is there an official word on this issue? The product is of no 
AH interest to me without a working import - not on a trial basis and 
AH certainly not for purchase. BTW, my impression from what I've read on 
AH the web is that importing from Netscape (6.1?) worked on previous 
AH releases of TB (1.53?) ?? Is this correct, and if so, what happened to 
AH break this feature?
I am a new user, not a expert by any means. If you give
them a little time, I am sure the list veterans may
have an answer to your question. I never bothered to
ask the list because I had copies of my mail in other
clients. Regards,
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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson

Ok but my understanding was that this was a _feature_ of TB. The import 
wizard does indicate Netscape 6.x as being supported. So, the question 
remains: is there an official word on this issue? The product is of no 
interest to me without a working import - not on a trial basis and 
certainly not for purchase. BTW, my impression from what I've read on 
the web is that importing from Netscape (6.1?) worked on previous 
releases of TB (1.53?) ?? Is this correct, and if so, what happened to 
break this feature?

Lynna Lunsford wrote:

I had the same problem,.No way to export from Netscape
and no built in import from Netscape to TB. Unless you
save emails individually and then open them as a .eml
or similar file in TB... Unless someone else has a way
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List of files and registry keys for un-install??

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson

Is there a complete list somewhere of files installed and registry keys 
created or modified by installing The Bat? I get an error message trying 
to un-install from Windows control panel and I'd like to remove all 
traces... TIA.




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Re[2]: Inbox -- known

2002-04-23 Thread William Eggington


PP I think it is already partial available ...
PP Ctrl+W will add sender to address book, Ctrl+B will delete it ... I
PP don't know if I'd really need the very same option for _every_
PP e-mail-address in the message text :-)

PP If I don't want to receive mail anymore from a specific person and that one
PP is in my AB I can delete if by finding a message of him/her and use the
PP above mentioned shortcut :-)
PP If my Known filter would be active all necessary steps would be taken
PP this way :-)

PP I do rarely have people in my AB I don't receive mail from _and_ want to
PP delete these entries :-)

Ahh. . . cool.  Thank you very much.  Ctrl+b works like a charm.


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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson



Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

Not AFAIK. This hasn't come up before that I can remember... unless
anyone else knows otherwise. You might try a UNIX format export from
NS and import from there.

It was mentioned a couple of times on the tbbeta list with no responses 
as in this message from April 02:
 

is there anybody out there who succeeded in importing folders/messages
from within Netscape v6.2 into TB!

As  reported from users, import function from within The Bat! (Netscape
6) does not work as expected.

Any experience reports are welcome :-)

 

Also mentioned in this message from March 02:
 

Well,  the  mail  import from netscape 6.2.1 does not work. The import
mailboxes  window lists local folders but doesn't list accounts. To be
precise it lists nothing except default and local folders

If I press next I get an error popup that states No boxes selected to
be converted

 

C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.*

  HKCU\Software\RIT\*.*

plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp.

Ok, those are the obvious ones. I was looking for a list of anything 
that gets installed in windows\system or anywhere *other* than the 
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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Andrew,

@23 April 2002, 11:49:45 -0400 (16:49 UK time) Andrew Henderson wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It was mentioned a couple of times on the tbbeta list with no
 responses as in this message from April 02:

snip

 Also mentioned in this message from March 02:

 Well,  the  mail  import from netscape 6.2.1 does not work. The
 import mailboxes  window lists local folders but doesn't list
 accounts. To be precise it lists nothing except default and local
 folders

 If I press next I get an error popup that states No boxes selected
 to be converted

As Allie wrote to George at that time chuckle I think your using
Netscape is pretty unusual these days.;-) As a result no-one seems to
be sharing your problems.. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply but
effectively what it means is that not enough noise was made at the
time for RIT to have issued a fix for any Netscape import problems.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.

C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.*

  HKCU\Software\RIT\*.*

plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp.

 Ok, those are the obvious ones. I was looking for a list of anything
 that gets installed in windows\system or anywhere *other* than the
 program directory.

TB doesn't do anything like that unless you tell it to take over MAPI.
Did you? There is a TBMAPI.DLL that may have been installed. Other
than that, TB is nicely self-contained.

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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Michael Disabato

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 9:02:39 AM, Andrew scribbled:

AH I'm sure that this has been addressed  before but I could not find it in 
AH the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. I just 
AH downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me 
AH to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is 
AH there a solution?

The import wizard in 1.60c appears to be broke. I would strongly
recommend getting 1.53d off Tucows and try that.

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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson

Michael Disabato wrote:

The import wizard in 1.60c appears to be broke. I would strongly
recommend getting 1.53d off Tucows and try that.

Mike


Thanks Michael.






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simple question on PGP

2002-04-23 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz

Hi!

I'm using the PGP 6.5.8 plugin. When I mark messages to be signed and/or
encrypted everything works fine. However, the emails are always stored
encrypted in my SENT folder, so I can't read them myself anymore! How can I
send the messages encrypted, but have them stored in my messagebase as
clear text (maybe with a line ENCRYPTED BY PGP at the bottom)?


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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson



Peter Palmreuther wrote:

Does this in any manner help and work?

No.

There is nothing except in the program directory.
As Marck already mentioned: maybe file type associations you told The Bat!
to fetch for itself, but files are _exclusively_ stored in installation
directory.

No associations were changed so it is a relief to know that I don't have 
to do any digging to get rid of The Bat.


BTW: It would be great if your Mozilla could be told to use a so called
signature delimiter '-- ' (dashdashspaceenter and if you could trim
your quotes to the necessary to make it easier to read and follow you
mails.

Whatever.






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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Andrew,

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 5:49:45 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

[Netscape-import-problem]
I don't have Netscape v6 installed nor do I have tested to import from
v4.x, but v.4 stores mails in MBOX formatted files.

Have you tried to import an 'UNIX MBOX file' and locate the open dialog on
one of your Netscape mailbox files?

Does this in any manner help and work?

C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.*

  HKCU\Software\RIT\*.*

plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp.

AH Ok, those are the obvious ones. I was looking for a list of anything
AH that gets installed in windows\system or anywhere *other* than the 
AH program directory.

There is nothing except in the program directory.
As Marck already mentioned: maybe file type associations you told The Bat!
to fetch for itself, but files are _exclusively_ stored in installation
directory.

BTW: It would be great if your Mozilla could be told to use a so called
signature delimiter '-- ' (dashdashspaceenter and if you could trim
your quotes to the necessary to make it easier to read and follow you
mails.

Thx
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Re: simple question on PGP

2002-04-23 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Carsten,

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 6:17:26 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

CGS I'm using the PGP 6.5.8 plugin. When I mark messages to be signed and/or
CGS encrypted everything works fine. However, the emails are always stored
CGS encrypted in my SENT folder, so I can't read them myself anymore! How can I
CGS send the messages encrypted, but have them stored in my messagebase as
CGS clear text (maybe with a line ENCRYPTED BY PGP at the bottom)?

In 'Tools' / 'OpenPGP' / 'OpenPGP Preferences' activate:

'Always encrypt to default key'

This should encrypt every message to _your_ key too and you should be able
to re-read them.
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Re: simple question on PGP

2002-04-23 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Carsten

On 23 April 2002 at 12:17:26 -0400 (which was 17:17 where I live) Carsten
Guthardt-Schulz rearranged electrons to get

CGS I'm using the PGP 6.5.8 plugin. When I mark messages to be signed
CGS and/or encrypted everything works fine. However, the emails are always
CGS stored encrypted in my SENT folder, so I can't read them myself
CGS anymore! How can I send the messages encrypted, but have them stored in
CGS my messagebase as clear text (maybe with a line ENCRYPTED BY PGP at
CGS the bottom)?

In short I don't think you can. What is in your sent folder is the message
as it was sent.

I would suggest that you set your PGP options to encryption to the default
key. From memory I think that if you go to Options | General. There should
be a tick box which says 'Always encrypt to default key'

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Avram_Sacks



On 04/23/2002 05:04 AM Peter Palmreuther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

a Files with extension .VCF are not associated with the Bat.  Do you
a wish to associate these files with The Bat?
a I always say no.  However, what do files of these types do and
a should I be saying yes.

These files are 'VCard-Files', means 'virtual visiting/business cards'.
If you don't associate with TB! another program will open if you receive
one, nothing more.
You can say yes, unless you have good reasons not to associate them; as you
don't even know what they are I'd assume you have no reason :-)

Thanks, Peter.   Now, this may appear to be a stupid question, but what is a
virtual visiting/business card?   It sounds to me like it is another form of
advertising that accompanies the large number of spam messages that I receive
daily (more on that in a separate post).  Since I haven't yet clicked yes, your
answer suggests another program is opening them.  But I don't see anything that
resembles a business card (unless I'm not looking in the right place.)   If I
click yes, where will it likely appear?  as a pop-up, in an address book, or
in some other spot? And, if I click yes to see what it is, can I be assured
that I will be able to turn it off if I decide it is merely cluttering up my
computer?

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks, Peter.   Now, this may appear to be a stupid question, but what is a
virtual visiting/business card?   It sounds to me like it is another form of
advertising that accompanies the large number of spam messages that I receive
daily

No. vcard is basically a format allowing for data to be exchanged 
between programs that are vcard aware. For example, a contact manager 
and an e-mail client.
for an overview of vcard go here: http://www.imc.org/pdi/vcardoverview.html

 
vCard automates the exchange of personal information typically found on 
a traditional business card. vCard is used in applications such as 
Internet mail, voice mail, Web browsers, telephony applications, call 
centers, video conferencing, PIMs (Personal Information Managers), PDAs 
(Personal Data Assistants), pagers, fax, office equipment, and smart 
cards. vCard information goes way beyond simple text, and includes 
elements like pictures, company logos, live Web addresses, and so on.

 




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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Andrew!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 4:32:41 PM you wrote:

 BTW, my impression from what I've read on the web is that importing
 from Netscape (6.1?) worked on previous releases of TB (1.53?) ?? Is
 this correct, and if so, what happened to break this feature?

I don't know about this particular feature, but in the course of
events ... sorry, should be bug fixing ... it could be that other
features break.

In your case I'd think you won't have to export every message on its
own. There must be a way to at least export every message in one go to
a text file, which could be imported as a UNIX mailbox (change the
extension to MBX).


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Re: List of files and registry keys for un-install??

2002-04-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Andrew!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 4:36:30 PM you wrote:

 Is there a complete list somewhere of files installed and registry keys 
 created or modified by installing The Bat? I get an error message trying 
 to un-install from Windows control panel and I'd like to remove all 
 traces... TIA.

It would have been a good idea to have started a new thread on this
one.

Why does this happen in the last two or three weeks more than before?
Can we assume, Marck, that a lot of new folks is on list? People having
been set on TB! lately?


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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Avram!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 7:02:26 PM you wrote:

 Thanks, Peter.   Now, this may appear to be a stupid question, but what is a
 virtual visiting/business card?   It sounds to me like it is another form of
 advertising that accompanies the large number of spam messages that I receive
 daily (more on that in a separate post).

If you know what a normal visiting card is (and is for), then you know
what a vCard is - it's the same concept only different media.


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Re: List of files and registry keys for un-install??

2002-04-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dierk,

@23 April 2002, 18:39:30 +0200 (17:39 UK time) Dierk Haasis wrote in
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 It would have been a good idea to have started a new thread on this
 one.

 Why does this happen in the last two or three weeks more than before?
 Can we assume, Marck, that a lot of new folks is on list? People having
 been set on TB! lately?

In this instance, I don't find a fault ISFA the instigator of the
thread re-stressed an unanswered aspect of his original posting. So
the post was threaded as required and was a continuation of the same
thread. It would possibly have been better 'quette to have made the
subject a blah (was re: blah) type of construct, but I'm fairly easy
about it here.

Other than that, we have to acknowledge that 1.60 is a version of TB
that contains many features to entice OE users into the fold. As the
evangelists of the TB doctrine, we of the UDL should exercise care and
patience with newcomers in general. I have a feeling there may be more
on the way :-).

Andrew Henderson may have shown that he is no novice user (what was
it, 8 years of accumulated mail in his NS mailbase?), but that doesn't
make him any less entitled to a patient approach.

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Name and password - Please help?

2002-04-23 Thread Jeroen

Hello,

My father has the Bat version 1.53d. The following problem occurs;
shortly after the splash screen the Bat asks for a name and a
password. My father cannot use therefore the emailclient. As for I
know the Bat was working properly before. Can anyone help me to solve
the problem.

My father said that he was manipulating the options, but cannot
remember what he did precisely.

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List Rules and threading (to Marck)

2002-04-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Marck!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 8:08:50 PM you wrote:

 Other than that, we have to acknowledge that 1.60 is a version of TB
 that contains many features to entice OE users into the fold. As the
 evangelists of the TB doctrine, we of the UDL should exercise care and
 patience with newcomers in general. I have a feeling there may be more
 on the way :-).

Hopefully I was coming through as patient - although I admit having
been a bit more uneasy than usual on this list. Which has nothing to
do with Andrew, but only with the growing amount of these kinds of
messages (wrongly threaded, completely new topic, no change of subject
line).

I normally read *all* messages from the lists - at least skimming
through them -, seldomly deleting whole threads when I am not
interested. What gets to me is a topic I am interested in being
answered to with a totally different issue. Something like talking
about the specifics in QED (Quantum ElectroDynamics) and then getting
an answer stating (perhaps even longwindedly) that George Orwell was
the pen name of a certain journalist called Eric Blair.

And here again I hope something: that I impressed everybody with the
width of my education. ;-)


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Re: Outlook conversion doesn't preserve addresses

2002-04-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 23 de abril de 2002, a las 8.55, Christopher Taylor-Davies decía:

CTD I have been trying to import my old message base from Outlook and
CTD have not had much luck. I have selected a few folders to convert and
CTD the process sometimes causes program errors in TB.

When I migrated from Outlook 2000 to TB!, TB! couldn´t import from
Outlook, so I imported the Outlook messagebase to Outlook Express and
then from Outlook Express to TB!, and it worked great. You probably
have OE installed if you have one of the latest IEs, so I suggest you
try this method.


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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Mandara

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 12:55:12  +0200 Gerard wrote:

DH I'd say Yes to the dialogue.

G And you have to say YES over and over again.
G Can't TB! remember this setting and change it automatically?

Certainly yes, indeed. Go to Options | Preferences | Applications,
then check .VCF, push Associate now, say OK - and that's it. Your
leg will not be pulled anymore.

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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Mandara

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 17:13:28  +0100 Marck wrote:

MDP As Allie wrote to George at that time chuckle I think your using
MDP Netscape is pretty unusual these days.;-) As a result no-one seems to
MDP be sharing your problems.. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply but
MDP effectively what it means is that not enough noise was made at the
MDP time for RIT to have issued a fix for any Netscape import problems.

Hmm. Netscape (especially v6.x-) is not pretty unusual these days at
all. :-) That what is unusual, IMHO, is that BAT's versions 1.6x+ have
loads of bugs and omissions. First time when I saw this I thought that
programming team is changed.

Else, with Bat's versions prior to 1.6x importing from NC (etc) works
excellently. I don't know for NC versions 6.x since I don't use
bloated software. Maybe is a solution for Andrew to install some 1.5x
Bat version and do import that mail from NC; then he can switch to new
version, if he'd like it.

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Re: TB and PGP 7.1.1

2002-04-23 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 3:28:51 AM PST, Florian Klemenz wrote:

 I'm currently using PGP 6.5.8, but I want to install PGPdisk 7.1.1
 which forces me to uninstall PGP 6.5.8.

Hello Florian,

Others have mentioned TB/PGP compatibility, but if disk volume
encryption is all you want to add, you may be happy with Scramdisk
(and not have to change your PGP version). If you're using Win9x/ME,
you can still obtain freeware Scramdisk:

http://www.samsimpson.com/scramdisk.php

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Re: List of files and registry keys for un-install??

2002-04-23 Thread Mandara

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 10:36:30  -0400 Andrew wrote:

AH Is there a complete list somewhere of files installed and registry keys
AH created or modified by installing The Bat? I get an error message trying
AH to un-install from Windows control panel and I'd like to remove all
AH traces... TIA.

RegKeys are here: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! For an
[de]install log file nothing is known to me.

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Re: List Rules and threading (to Marck)

2002-04-23 Thread GJim

Howdy Dierk,

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 12:55:14 PM, 
you wrote:

 And here again I hope something: that I impressed everybody with the
 width of my education. ;-)

I haven't been impressed since I was in the British Navy.

With a tip of the hat,
GJim c):{-
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Re: Name and password - Please help?

2002-04-23 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Jeroen,

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:08:42 +0200GMT (23-4-02, 19:08 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

J My father has the Bat version 1.53d. The following problem occurs;
J shortly after the splash screen the Bat asks for a name and a
J password. My father cannot use therefore the emailclient. As for I

Try to delete the password (or the group) at: Options - Network admin

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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson

Mandara wrote:

Maybe is a solution for Andrew to install some 1.5x
Bat version and do import that mail from NC; then he can switch to new
version, if he'd like it.

Mandara (v1.53d)


Yes, thanks, I had thought of that but the only version that I could 
find was 1.53 and it doesn't import from Netscape 6.2.1 - at least not 
through the wizard and I'm not looking to jump through hoops here.





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Re: List Rules and threading (to Marck)

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew Henderson

GJim wrote:

I haven't been impressed since I was in the British Navy.

With a tip of the hat,
GJim c):{-


Silly me, I thought the press gang went out soon after Nelson lost his 
eye...

As for List Rules - excuse me for not realizing that the list wouldn't 
start a new thread when I changed the message title... sheeesh. I'm on 
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OT PGP Versions (was Re: TB and PGP 7.1.1)

2002-04-23 Thread David Elliott

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Dear Florian

On 23 April 2002 at 12:28:51 +0200 (which was 11:28 where I live) Florian
Klemenz graced us with these comments

FK I'm currently using PGP 6.5.8, but I want to install PGPdisk 7.1.1 which
FK forces me to uninstall PGP 6.5.8.

I don't know if it for this list but why ?

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Re: SmartPad ??

2002-04-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Geir,

@22 April 2002, 14:48:56 +0200 (13:48 UK time) Geir Bækholt wrote in
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 [+] Tools|SmartPad

 I cannot find this item documented anywhere.. Can anyone tell me what
 i does.

 I can run it , and it seems kinda like a multipart-clipboard /
 textaeditor-thingie..

 Can anyone tell me more about it ?

SmartPad was produced in response to those who actually like the TB
editor and wanted to use it (and access Quick Templates) in a general
purpose notepad form. With the system-wide hot keys, SmartPad can
become an immensely useful data collation and note taking tool.

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Re: List Rules and threading (to Dierk)

2002-04-23 Thread Mandara

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 20:55:14  +0200 Dierk wrote:

DH Hopefully I was coming through as patient - although I admit having
DH been a bit more uneasy than usual on this list. Which has nothing to
DH do with Andrew, but only with the growing amount of these kinds of
DH messages (wrongly threaded, completely new topic, no change of subject
DH line).

Fool Moon approaches. Sometimes is not easy. Let's keep the smile. g

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Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

The Bat isn't showing the images linked in the html mails I receive.
¿Is it a bug, or I just missed an option?.

I don't really like html mails, and I'm happy with TB's lack of
support to writing them, but if people insists on sending me this kind
of junk, I sometimes want to see them complete :)

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Re: Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread Jane Ellen

The Bat isn't showing the images linked in the html mails I receive.
¿Is it a bug, or I just missed an option?.

I wonder if this is a security precaution? Since
mine don't work either, I generally have my html
newsletters sent to a web-based email addy for
convenience.

Jane



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Re: Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Ricardo,

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 18:53:12 -0300, you wrote concerning
'Images in HTML mails':
...
 The Bat isn't showing the images linked in the html mails I receive.
 ¿Is it a bug, or I just missed an option?.

No this is not a bug but it is done on purpose. If you do want to view
a HTML message with the images you can simply double click on the HTML
attachment which will open the HTML file in you default browser.

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Re: Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread Heinz Hombergs

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 23:53:12 (-0300 GMT) Ricardo M. Reyes wrote:

 The Bat isn't showing the images linked in the html mails I receive.
 ¿Is it a bug, or I just missed an option?.

That's correct when this images are stored on a remote server. TB will
display images in html mails only if they attached into the mail. This
is a good way. So nobody can check that you have read the mail via
this nifty little webbugs (webbugs = pictures with 1 pixel size and
transparent). The sender of this mails can set and read cookies with
this webbugs.
Second in some SPAMs are embedded javascript in those mails. Like call
to windows.open to open a specified URL in a new broswer window.
This don't happen in TB. Cause TB open not a IE instance to view this
mails. Ritlabs use a self coded viewer for this.

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Re: Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread Mrten

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Om 23:55 op dinsdag 23 april 2002, Jane Ellen:

 The Bat isn't showing the images linked in the html mails I receive.
 ¿Is it a bug, or I just missed an option?.

 I wonder if this is a security precaution? Since mine don't work either,
 I generally have my html newsletters sent to a web-based email addy for
 convenience.

TheBat will display images that get sent with the message just fine.
Images that have to be downloaded however won't be downloaded and will
therefore not be displayed.

This is a feature loved by many. It will, for example, prevent spammers
from confirming your email-address. You can always click on the HTML-icon
to fire up your favourite browser ($FAVBROWSER anyone? :).

Mrten.

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Re[2]: Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 23 de abril de 2002, a las 19.12, Heinz Hombergs decía:

 The Bat isn't showing the images linked in the html mails I receive.
 ¿Is it a bug, or I just missed an option?.

HH That's correct when this images are stored on a remote server. TB will
HH display images in html mails only if they attached into the mail. This
HH is a good way. So nobody can check that you have read the mail via
HH this nifty little webbugs (webbugs = pictures with 1 pixel size and
HH transparent).

ok, I get it. Although I think it should be optional, because I see it
as a privacy problem, and not a really big security problem. The
current behavior should be the default, but I would like to have the
option of seeing the mails complete. don't you?

HH The sender of this mails can set and read cookies with
HH this webbugs.

Are you sure they can do that? I know they can track the request of
the image, but I don't know about the cookies.

HH Second in some SPAMs are embedded javascript in those mails. Like call
HH to windows.open to open a specified URL in a new broswer window.
HH This don't happen in TB. Cause TB open not a IE instance to view this
HH mails. Ritlabs use a self coded viewer for this.

that's one of the reasons I switched to TB from Outlook

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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1

2002-04-23 Thread Allie C Martin

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AH Thanks Michael.

If you haven't found one just write to me and I can send it to you.

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Re: Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Ricardo,

@23 April 2002, 19:38:01 -0300 (23:38 UK time) Ricardo M. Reyes wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ok, I get it. Although I think it should be optional, because I see
 it as a privacy problem, and not a really big security problem.
 The current behavior should be the default, but I would like to have
 the option of seeing the mails complete. don't you?

It's more of an issue than that!!!

Here's the thing. Email is off-line. HTTP GET protocol is online and
the responsibility of a web browser and web browser technology. Email
programs that allow you to use GET technology to read images that
reside on servers (because that's what actually has to be done to show
these images) usually resort to calling the installed browser APIs to
do it by proxy.

HH The sender of this mails can set and read cookies with
HH this webbugs.

 Are you sure they can do that?

Not only can they, they *do*.

 I know they can track the request of the image, but I don't know
 about the cookies.

They can do both, since the GET has to defer to a full-scale browser
call to do the job and opens *all sorts* of holes in your system.

 that's one of the reasons I switched to TB from Outlook

I do know that the guys at RIT have been looking at ways of
downloading out-of-line images but it will be on an approve per
image basis.

Let's face it, you'll get a much better rendition of *that*
sophisticated an HTML message by double clicking on it and launching
it in a browser window g.

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Re[2]: Name and password - Please help?

2002-04-23 Thread Jeroen

Hello,

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 9:52:55 PM, you wrote:

RO Try to delete the password (or the group) at: Options - Network admin

Yes, but he cannot access the Bat anymore. :-( He needs the login/password
for that. Is there a way to delete passwords with deleting a
config-file, without deleting account properties?



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Outgoing Filter: Move File Save not Working?

2002-04-23 Thread Greg Strong

Hello ,

I can't get an outgoing mail filter to work and I don't know why. I'll
describe what I'm doing because maybe there is a better way, then get
to specifics. I have a contact DB which I dump names, email addresses,
 other variables for the day into a CSV file. I import this info into
a separate address book for just this purpose. A Mass mail on all
imported addresses is performed to the Outbox on an account where
delivery is deferred. The outgoing filter is to perform 2 functions,
move email to specific folder on send, and append email into a text
file. I've created a hyperlink field in the DB, so that I can quickly
reference the email in subsequent discussions. This way the contact DB
is self containing of all types of communications made with any
company and individual.

General questions:

1) Can you filter on strings in the body with location = text?
2) Can you have a move and file save on 1 filter?

Detail outgoing mail filter rule tab:
Name: whatever
Source folder: Outbox
Move message to folder: whatever
Filter strings: strings=whatever ; Location=text ; Presence=yes
Rule is: Active

Detail outgoing mail filter actions tab:
Export message to a file: selected (with path:\dest\whatever.txt)
Export format: text
Append to existing file: selected
Export Kludges: selected

The results are no TXT file is saved and the messages end up in the
Sent Mail folder. In summary it isn't working. For the string value
I've tried to key in on only a partial of the subject since there is a
variable there that changes for each group of messages sent out,
otherwise I would have to create a filter for group sent. This did not
work, so I was trying to key in on a string in the body with the
location being text.

I'm new to the TB! so this is a bit of a stretch for me, but it would
a very helpful tool for tracing information in the database. Any
ideals? TIA!

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Re[2]: SmartPad ??

2002-04-23 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Marck,

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 3:55:07 PM, you wrote:

MDP SmartPad was produced in response to those who actually like the
MDP TB editor and wanted to use it (and access Quick Templates) in a
MDP general purpose notepad form. With the system-wide hot keys,
MDP SmartPad can become an immensely useful data collation and note
MDP taking tool.

Don't you mean SmartBat?  See Tools | SmartBat (or F6)

It sounds like this would be very helpful for documentation of
procedures in TB! I did a SmartPad search in help and Menu Navigator
without luck.  Clarification would be helpful!  TIA!

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wish list (was Re: SmartPad ??)

2002-04-23 Thread David Elliott

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Greetings Marck

On 23 April 2002 at 21:55:07 +0100 (which was 21:55 where I live) Marck D
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 [+] Tools|SmartPad

 ... 

 Can anyone tell me more about it ?

MDP SmartPad was produced in response to those who actually like the TB
MDP editor and wanted to use it (and access Quick Templates) in a general
MDP purpose notepad form. With the system-wide hot keys, SmartPad can
MDP become an immensely useful data collation and note taking tool.

¿ access Quick Templates ? I must have missed something there. What do you
mean ?

The wish is that you can use a spell checker in it ?

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread ETM

I am suspicious that my Palm Desktop grabs the extension.

Elaine

Hello Dierk

On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, you wrote

 Except you have installed OE, Outlook or IE. They just grab covertly
 back extensions they assume to be theirs.



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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello ETM,

On Tuesday, April 23 2002 at 09:53 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I am suspicious that my Palm Desktop grabs the extension.

Well really, that is the Application that should grab the vcf extension
because it's Contact Management Software. When/if you answer 'No' to TB's
request to take it over... that should be the end of it. 

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Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf

2002-04-23 Thread ETM

That's what I did and that's why I didn't have a problem, but I
thought it might help the person who did -- perhaps he also is
using Palm software and hadn't made the connection.

Elaine

Hello Nick

On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, you wrote

 Well really, that is the Application that should grab the vcf extension
 because it's Contact Management Software. When/if you answer 'No' to TB's
 request to take it over... that should be the end of it. 



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