Re: smarter quote wrapping
Hello Alex, On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:30:45 -0500 GMT (22/01/03, 13:30 +0700 GMT), Alex wrote: > So just to make sure, does the "smart quote" actually wrap only text > which it deems as paragraphs or does it wrap everything as it does now > using the QT's from the referenced thread? A good question for the beta list! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The next time you feel like complaining, remember: Your garbage disposal probably eats better than thirty percent of the people in this world. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: smarter quote wrapping
At 01:26 AM on 1/22/2003, you wrote: TF> This wishlist item has already been realised in the current beta TF> series. "Smart quote" is what it is called. Please be patient, TF> wait for the next release, and see whether it does what you need. I just want to double check it has actually been "realized." I was reading through a thread on the TBBETA list in which someone was explaining the "smart quote" feature. They explained it as being exactly what the quick templates from the thread i posted do. However, there wasn't a mention of it being actually "smart" and not wrapping as i suggested. ie: not wrapping the To, From, Subject fields of a forwarded message or another example would be not wrapping numbered lists. So just to make sure, does the "smart quote" actually wrap only text which it deems as paragraphs or does it wrap everything as it does now using the QT's from the referenced thread? And on a side note, how many betas are typically released before an official public version is released? I saw one that went up to 17 . . . -Alex Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AB templates?
Hello mm Meister, AM>> This sounds like your computer is busy with another process and AM>> this is affecting the editor. This happens to me as well when I'm AM>> doing a lot of things concurrently, especially CPU intensive AM>> things. > That describes exactly the problem I used to have before getting the > new machine. The way I remedied it was to turn off the flying bat and > the ticker. I didn't get as much letter dropping or hesitations after > that. Get rid of active desktop if you are using it.. Set all that display stuff to standard or better style like 98. Donot run too much stuff at the same time Use enough memory No idea what you are using but believe me, most systems are running less memory then they need. I often make my customers the offer that I will fit extra ram free of charge, ie I remove it if they donot want it. Most see so much speed difference they want to keep what I put in If you run anything like Xp or 2000, consider that the faster the processor, the more ram you need to buffer between hard disk / processor as afterall the hard disk is the stone behind your computer and slowing it down. if you run many internet tasks, multiple downloads or whatever enough memory is a must. -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable to open Excel spreadsheets
It seems that when I receive a MS Excel file as an attachment to an incoming e-mail message and try to open it from the message, i.e., instead of saving it as a separate file first, I receive the following error: "The system cannot find the path specified." When I click on an Excel file in a folder, however, it opens right up. There are spaces in the file name of both spreadsheets, the one that opens and the one that doesn't; and the program that should open it is Lotus 1-2-3, not Excel, although that shouldn't matter. Any idea of what could be causing the problem? -- JN Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smarter quote wrapping
Hello Alex, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:11:44 -0500 GMT (22/01/03, 09:11 +0700 GMT), Alex wrote: > After some searching, i stumbled across a quick template which would > wrap replied text. > The thread can be found here, > http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44735.html This wishlist item has already been realised in the current beta series. "Smart quote" is what it is called. Please be patient, wait for the next release, and see whether it does what you need. Alternatively, you can of course join the beta list by hitting here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , download the latest beta, and try it out even now. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Si le travail c'est l'opium du peuple, alors je ne veux pas finir drogué...[ Boris Vian ] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Richard, On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:34:38 + GMT (22/01/03, 07:34 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: > I've searched high and low through the key strokes list and can't find > out how to move to the "original" message that I am reading the answer > to. > Please, is there a way of doing that which I have completely missed? You could always put it again into the wishlist. I also have to scroll up the line in thread view often in order to find the message the poster had replied to. I would prefer a single keystroke "go to message up thread" and another one for "go to root (message that started thread)". -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. In an office: WOULD THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE STEP LADDER YESTERDAY PLEASE BRING IT BACK OR FURTHER STEPS WILL BE TAKEN. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Admin Rights- and Group-related Bug?
Hello Joseph, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, at 17:45:49 GMT -0600 (1/21/2003, 5:45 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > (And would someone remind me where bugs are to be filed?) Just click on the link at the bottom of TBUDL messages. At the top of the page you will find "TB! Wish/BugTraq". -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hi All, On 22 Jan 2003 00:34:38 (my local time 21 ¤@¤ë 2003 16:34:38), Richard Wakeford wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > I've searched high and low through the key strokes list and can't find > out how to move to the "original" message that I am reading the answer > to. Ctrl + Backspace -- Regards, Anthony The problem with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
smarter quote wrapping
After some searching, i stumbled across a quick template which would wrap replied text. The thread can be found here, http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44735.html But as many have complained, TB's editor uses hard formatting and only recognizes paragraphs by a blank line, so many people's lists are formatted into a single block of text without any carriage returns. Unfortunately, i don't have a suggestion for that. However, i do have one for forwarded message. typically a forwarded message consists of: -Original Message- From: First Last [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:41 PM To: First Last Subject: This is my subject Would it be possible to rewrite the quick template from the thread above so that when it recognizes a Original Message line along with any From:, Sent:, etc fields, it does not wrap them? That way replies to forwarded messages will look correctly. -Alex Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Richard! On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 6:34 PM, you wrote: R> I've searched high and low through the key strokes list and can't find R> out how to move to the "original" message that I am reading the answer R> to. I can see how to move to the previous unread but that's not the R> same. Even though mail is well quoted I find it still helps me to R> sometimes read the whole of the original mail if I'm really interested R> in the subject matter to enable me to understand things better. I like to have the original in front of me, too. I have my Windows arranged in a tiled fashion--I did it through manually sizing them, rather than selecting Tiles--such that a message I am Replying to peeks out to the left, just behind the Reply "Edit Mail Message" Window. I am a Mouse person. So, a click in the original field that sticks out will put the original I am replying to in front of me, and--since I have the Reply Window just a little longer than the "View Folder Window" of the original--I can click in that field and get back to message composition. Now--if you went back to the first message in the thread and put its Window up, could you size things such that you could click back and forth? I haven't tried it for that. And maybe you are not a Mouse person at all. Also, maybe someone will come up with the exact key-stroke for your needs, and all this speculating is for nothing! R> Please, is there a way of doing that which I have completely missed? I am going to try what I just suggested, to see if it works. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing multiple recipients
Hello Miguel, > The full e-mail headers will now be displayed and you can look for > the To, CC, and BCC. Oooops! Not BCC, of course -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing multiple recipients
Hello Jeanny, > Is there any way to get the To:, CC: and BCC: fields to expand so that > when I am sending something to many people, I can see who all is > listed or when I receive something send to multiple recipients, I can > see who else got it? When you are sending a message, when composing it in the message editor, you can click on the right most icon (address book) of each of the To, CC and BCC fields and you will see the complete list of addresses you have already included. On received messages, the only way I can think of right no is to get focus on the text pane and hit Shift+Ctrl+K (or right click with the mouse and select RFC-822 headers on the context menu). The full e-mail headers will now be displayed and you can look for the To, CC, and BCC. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing multiple recipients
I second that - I'd love to see something whereby you could either mouseover and get the full list or (better still) click a button on the TO: or CC: line to expand the line so it contains the entire list... Toby Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 11:35:57 AM, you wrote: JH> Is there any way to get the To:, CC: and BCC: fields to expand so that JH> when I am sending something to many people, I can see who all is JH> listed or when I receive something send to multiple recipients, I can JH> see who else got it? JH> Right now, I highlight, copy, and paste into Notepad, but there must JH> be an easier way. JH> Thanks, JH> Jeanny --- Life is poetry - write it in your own words. --- Toby Tremayne Technical Team Lead Code Poet and Zen Master of the Heavy Sleep Toll Solutions 154 Moray St Sth Melbourne VIC 3205 +61 3 9697 2317 0416 048 090 ICQ: 13107913 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing multiple recipients
Is there any way to get the To:, CC: and BCC: fields to expand so that when I am sending something to many people, I can see who all is listed or when I receive something send to multiple recipients, I can see who else got it? Right now, I highlight, copy, and paste into Notepad, but there must be an easier way. Thanks, Jeanny -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI Using v. 1.62 Christmas Windows XP Pro Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving to original message
I've searched high and low through the key strokes list and can't find out how to move to the "original" message that I am reading the answer to. I can see how to move to the previous unread but that's not the same. Even though mail is well quoted I find it still helps me to sometimes read the whole of the original mail if I'm really interested in the subject matter to enable me to understand things better. Please, is there a way of doing that which I have completely missed? -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera Music is the mediator between the spiritual and the sensual life. Ludwig van Beethoven Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Finder tick boxes
Hello all, I'm writing a couple of PowerPro macros and I would need to make sure that a couple of tick boxes on the Options tab of the Message Finder are selected. As far as I know these type of tick boxes toggle with every click or corresponding keyboard shortcut. Does anybody know of any way/trick to force these two boxes to selected/ticked? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: "syntactically invalid HELO argument"
Phil- If you really get desperate you could try telnetting to claranet's server on the smtp port and try sending a HELO or EHLO message. I just tried it and got in without a problem. telnet claranet.com 25 EHLO 1.2.3.4 Of course, if this is something that used to work and has just recently started failing, I would poke around in the account settings to see what's changed lately. Have you changed the authentication method? Even if you find out what's going on with the EHLO command, you're not going to have much control over what gets sent out... -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Admin Rights- and Group-related Bug?
Some time ago I noted this, but I didn't see any response. I will file as a bug unless someone indicates a reason why this is not one. Multi-user configuration, all of whom have user rights except for Administrator, who has administrator rights. Some of the users are within one group (of which the administrator is not a member). This is the only group in the configuration. When administrator logs on and goes into Tools/Networks (or whatever it is called; anyone still reading this knows which menu choice I'm referring to), there are two events--at least here--which, I believe, should not occur. One is that, under Privileges, the first listed user always has admin rights, not the user rights he should have. The other is that, under Groups, the group is no longer a group. The member accounts have to be re-selected and the group re-created. Comments? (And would someone remind me where bugs are to be filed?) -- JN Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Kludges?
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 4:06:05 AM, you wrote: TF> Hello Mike, TF> On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:38:33 + GMT (21/01/03, 10:38 +0700 GMT), TF> This means many people haven't even seen your question, because they TF> might not have been following the long thread "I love the Bat". If you TF> want to start a new subject, it is therefore recommended to not just TF> hit Reply and only change the subject line, but to start a new TF> message. ;-) Thanks for all that, Thomas :) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AB templates?
Hello Allie,
Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 5:45:50 PM, you wrote:
AM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
AM> Hash: SHA1
AM> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
AM> Mark Partous [MP] wrote:'
MP>> Seriously, while typing in The Bat, it often happens one or other
MP>> letter seems to be missing. :-( And yes, I am sure I did type it!
MP>> Even just now, the "y" in "type" was missing. Seems to occur while
MP>> the computer is checking something... In the Taskbar, I see the
MP>> "Bericht bewerken" ("edit message"?) lighting up and the prompt
MP>> freezes for a second (actually less than a second).
AM> This sounds like your computer is busy with another process and
AM> this is affecting the editor. This happens to me as well when I'm
AM> doing a lot of things concurrently, especially CPU intensive
AM> things.
That describes exactly the problem I used to have before getting the
new machine. The way I remedied it was to turn off the flying bat and
the ticker. I didn't get as much letter dropping or hesitations after
that.
--
Regards,
M.Meistermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: orphan directories?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Uwe Zimmermann wrote... JA>> CTRL SHIFT ALT L > thanks a lot! That did the job. Is this function documented somewhere? Yes, it's in the help file. If you go to the help, contents, open up the "Help and troubleshooting" page, and go to "Common errors". It is the second from the bottom I think. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPi3VNyuD6BT4/R9zEQK6RwCgiSbNFgXIBa581n739WBR/G+cQ4wAniot RnyX3jDmwLwdVXvilebJbQGI =UM3p -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I love the Bat , but why can't the Bat allow me to edit HTMLdocuments or read my USENET news groups. Standard Email features
Hello Greg, > ... but VA you could save the results in a > visual container called Bookmarks. You could save up to 20 bookmarks, > and refer to them at any time without running the search again. Saving searches was just one of the possibilities of Bookmarks (or of bookmarking messages), there were other way of bookmarking a message, even just manually by hitting B while the message was selected. One real good think about bookmarks, as compared to Colour Groups, was that a message could be bookmarked to any number of bookmark sets. Why can't a message be be "Important" and "for Reference" at the same time? One advantage VA's search and bookmarks was that you could search mail and news simultaneously and bookmarks could include both mail and news messages. > If I have 2 tools I use a lot like email & a news reader, I would > like to have as similar an interface as possible because it > minimizes my mistakes. For example Ctl+N with TB is new email, > whereas Ctrl+N with Agent is send message. If the difference was just a shortcut it wouldn't be too bad :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: orphan directories?
JA> On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Uwe Zimmermann wrote... >> On one of my accounts with a large number of subsubfolders (664 to be >> exact) in a subfolder, there are some folders with complete .tbb and >> .tbi files, but these do no longer appear in the folder view in >> TheBat! JA> CTRL SHIFT ALT L JA> It'll recover the folders you think you lost. Hope that helps. Hello Jonathan, thanks a lot! That did the job. Is this function documented somewhere? Uwe. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: orphan directories?
Hello Jonathan, Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 23:40:21, you wrote: JA> The version I'm using, I have to make sure I have the folder listed. JA> If I hit CTRL L in the message preview, it'll display a search. Of JA> course, you can always customize your keys so... ;) how silly of me :) now I got i wright, tnx -- Best regards, Ricardo van Eck The Netherlands Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AB; deleting items; hiding items
I have never figured out what a particular message means, nor how to respond. I have a personal address book, and there are several groups. Some addresses are just in the personal address book and not assigned to groups, but most are assigned to groups. Most of those are assigned to just one group, but a few are assigned to multiple groups. If I try to delete an entry that is a member of one of the groups, then I get the following message from TB!: The group "X" hides its items unless it is explicitly selected. Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address book? What does this mean? Do I want to check yes or no if the objective is removing the entry from all places it appears? -- JN Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AB templates?
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Partous [MP] wrote:'
MP> Seriously, while typing in The Bat, it often happens one or other
MP> letter seems to be missing. :-( And yes, I am sure I did type it!
MP> Even just now, the "y" in "type" was missing. Seems to occur while
MP> the computer is checking something... In the Taskbar, I see the
MP> "Bericht bewerken" ("edit message"?) lighting up and the prompt
MP> freezes for a second (actually less than a second).
This sounds like your computer is busy with another process and
this is affecting the editor. This happens to me as well when I'm
doing a lot of things concurrently, especially CPU intensive
things.
- --
-=] allie_M [=- {List Moderator}
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Re: orphan directories?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Ricardo van Eck wrote... JA>> CTRL SHIFT ALT L JA>> It'll recover the folders you think you lost. Hope that helps. > If I do that, it opens a search box :o) The version I'm using, I have to make sure I have the folder listed. If I hit CTRL L in the message preview, it'll display a search. Of course, you can always customize your keys so... ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPi3MWSuD6BT4/R9zEQLW4gCfewxKDzdpP0zKAhUplP+km2rCFxYAni6Y 2hnG7bqWZoTz2+oKtzycSyG5 =MmNu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: orphan directories?
JA> CTRL SHIFT ALT L JA> It'll recover the folders you think you lost. Hope that helps. If I do that, it opens a search box :o) -- Best regards, Ricardo van Eck The Netherlands Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: orphan directories?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Uwe Zimmermann wrote... > On one of my accounts with a large number of subsubfolders (664 to be > exact) in a subfolder, there are some folders with complete .tbb and > .tbi files, but these do no longer appear in the folder view in > TheBat! CTRL SHIFT ALT L It'll recover the folders you think you lost. Hope that helps. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPi3JqiuD6BT4/R9zEQKqYgCcDjix/4Zw0vbGxuupOxdXARFXXlsAn0XS 1FIn/UtcZLucsHwWEazQ/49H =h/WG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
orphan directories?
Hello listmembers! I'm not sure if this has come up earlier - I couldn't find it in the FAQs or the groups. On one of my accounts with a large number of subsubfolders (664 to be exact) in a subfolder, there are some folders with complete .tbb and .tbi files, but these do no longer appear in the folder view in TheBat! I re-imported the .tbb of one of these directories correctly into TheBat, but its a bit hard to cross-chek every time which folders are lost. Somewhere I read the tip to re-index messed-up folders, but since I don't even see these folders in TheBat, this is a bit hard to do. Uwe. -- TheBat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Reply to" field for mailing lists
Hello Joseph! On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 1:36 PM, you wrote: MB>> Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown J> Very nice. Fellow teacher? At least, fellow Bat lover. I noted your version in your expanded headers. ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: "Reply to" field for mailing lists
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Mary Bull wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: MB> Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown Very nice. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 things- TAB and AB entries
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:55:23 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 23:55 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: > no, that is the whole problem, CTRL-+ ALWAYS selects and ONLY > selects the first entry. Arghh. Wishlist, here you come. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kludges?
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:57:24 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 23:57 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: > I have Spamcop setup, but I think it stopped working, No problems here. I use it about ten times a day (that's how much spam I get). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wer anderen die Stube fegt, will selber 'rein. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Reply to" field for mailing lists
Hello Spike! On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 8:16 AM, you wrote: S> 8< Snipped a bunch MB>> ... this [Senior-Newbies] is a very nice list. ... < snipped a bunch more ... > MB>> ... Hardly any of them have heard of The Bat! however. :) ... S> You must take this opportunity to edu-ma-cate them Mary! Just S> think, you can be the 'ambassador of proper netiquette' on that S> list and make a new crop of better informed users! ;-) Work with S> the moderator by stating the reasons why it is important (from an S> organizational standpoint) to conform to established protocols. I think the moderator is truly already doing an excellent job of that. The list is about 2 years old. Rootsweb called it to everyone's attention (including mine) in a newsletter last week, and suddenly it had 171 new subscribers. The policy is extreme tolerance with newbies. Explain, but let them make their mistakes over and over without being scolded. There's a lot of knowledge and skill being dispensed and information offered, including advice about "Netiquette," aside from my posts. Just about *everyone* there responded to my query on my missing "Reply to" with, hit Reply All. None of them seem to mind getting duplicate messages. :) I don't think I want to get into a discussion with the moderator on her List settings at this point. The level of experience, even with her, is, I think, Outlook Express. Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown? I think I'd better go slow. But I do mean to evangelize for The Bat! There is only one other The Bat! user on Senior-Newbie. S> You had to know there was a (hidden) reason why you joined that S> list! I hoped to learn something! And help where I could, of course. The people on Senior-Newbie-L tend to be my age, and their chief interest in the computer seems to be to learn to use it for doing genealogy. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kludges?
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 11:18 AM, you wrote: TF> That is how I used to do it until I discovered SpamCop. SpamCop will TF> check which headers are faked and only send messages to the ISPs that TF> are really concerened (real originating email address, open relays TF> used etc). With the filters created by Marck and published in the TB TF> library, this is a matter of hitting shift-crtl-S for me now, it is TF> easy and doesn't steal my time. ;-) I have Spamcop setup, but I think it stopped working, so I went back to my OLD method of ARIN/WHOIS and forwarding messages. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 things- TAB and AB entries
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 11:04 AM, you wrote: >> What I need is to be able to select from 2 email addresses per AB entry. TF> This sounds like a wishlist item that must have gathered dust already. TF> Maybe you want to send it again? TF> I am not sure whether this workaround helps, but maybe crtl-+ works in TF> some such cases. no, that is the whole problem, CTRL-+ ALWAYS selects and ONLY selects the first entry. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bat Running Slow
Hello Thomas, On or about Tuesday, January 21, 2003 at 23:12:19GMT +0700 (which was 11:12 AM in the tropics where I live) Thomas Fernandez fired back: S> What are the rules TB! uses in the case where you have 240 S> messages, each with 01.jpg, 02.jpg, 03.jpg all in the same S> mail storage folder? I know that in the case of newsgroups, S> AGENT uses an "auto-increment" feature (optional). I've been S> unable to find a reference to this. TF> Let's say you have several messages with an attachment 01.jpg TF> coming in. The first one will be stored as 01.jpg, the second TF> as 011.jpg, the third one as 012.jpg, then 013.jpg and so on. TF> So it is an auto-increment feature, but it is not optional. I'm glad to hear it! I will start using this feature. This is just what I needed -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Flying in the stratosphere with The Bat! V1.61 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: "syntactically invalid HELO argument"
Hi Markus, > There could be two issues: > - the mail server doesn't like to be approached with a EHLO greeting > - the way your computer's name appears in the greeting is not liked by > the mail server > In the first case the Bat should fall back to a HELO greeting and mail > client and mail server should keep on talking to each other. If this is > the case I don't know why this isn't happening. > In the last case you'd have to dive deeper to see what OE uses to start > the communication and what the Bat uses. How can I find out what the Bat is sending out? I've managed to send out messages by switching to the myrealbox smtp server and seeing what is in the headers when the message arrives but I guess the info is different depending on the Server. I could see nothing to do with HELO in the headers whereas when I send stuff with OE via claranet I can see the HELO greeting in the header. > The following information might be helpful in tracking down the problem: > - Is there any more information in the Bat's logs (Shift-Ctrl-A or > Account/View log)? Sadly not! > - What type of mail server is the Bat talking to? just claranet's smtp server -- Cheers, Philmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kludges?
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:42:37 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 19:42 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: > what's the difference between a KLUDGE and full headers? Kludge is a historical term going back to Fidonet times. Full headers (or RFC822 headers) is the technical term. IMHO. > I always use CTRL-SHIFT-K to display the full headers when > forwarding SPAM to ISPs.. That is how I used to do it until I discovered SpamCop. SpamCop will check which headers are faked and only send messages to the ISPs that are really concerened (real originating email address, open relays used etc). With the filters created by Marck and published in the TB library, this is a matter of hitting shift-crtl-S for me now, it is easy and doesn't steal my time. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wann wird denn endlich der Niagara-Fall geloest oder die Formel 1 ausgerechnet ?? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Running Slow
Hello Spike, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:51:20 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 20:51 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: > What are the rules TB! uses in the case where you have 240 messages, > each with 01.jpg, 02.jpg, 03.jpg all in the same mail storage > folder? I know that in the case of newsgroups, AGENT uses an > "auto-increment" feature (optional). I've been unable to find a > reference to this. Let's say you have several messages with an attachment 01.jpg coming in. The first one will be stored as 01.jpg, the second as 011.jpg, the third one as 012.jpg, then 013.jpg and so on. So it is an auto-increment feature, but it is not optional. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 13. Los Angeles's full name is "El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula" and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size,L.A. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 things- TAB and AB entries
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:38:00 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 19:38 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: > YES! I didn't understand your template macro at first, I DO NOW! > it doesn't help my situation, but I did learn something, thank you! Glad to be of assistance. :-) > What I need is to be able to select from 2 email addresses per AB entry. This sounds like a wishlist item that must have gathered dust already. Maybe you want to send it again? I am not sure whether this workaround helps, but maybe crtl-+ works in some such cases. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Avoid cliches like the plague (They're old hat.) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top & Bottom Margin when Printing
Hallo Mark, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:48:00 +0100GMT (21-1-03, 14:48 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: MP> I couldn't find a way to change the setting of the above mentioned MP> margins. I suppose it is impossible to adjust them. In the menu: Message -> Print setup -> General Keep in mind that the printer settings are folder specific. MP> Removing the full line under the message might help (a little bit) MP> too. Message -> Print setup -> Template -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AB templates?
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:06:37 -0500GMT (21-1-03, 15:06 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: PC> well, this is puzzling me. I have an AB entry for a person, and a PC> new message template. When I start on the To: line, and start Do you per chance have multiple address book entries ffor that contact? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Account settings gone
Hello Thomas, Monday, January 20, 2003, 20:53:28, you wrote: TF> It really is a beta problem. It won't happen to you if you never TF> installed the beta version. Please report over at the beta list. I looked on TBBETA. It was already a discussion :) And beta/5 doesn't seem to have this problem anymore. -- Best regards, Ricardo van Eck The Netherlands Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Account settings gone
Hello Paul, Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 13:39:33, you wrote: PC> On Monday, January 20, 2003, 10:53 PM, you wrote: >>> Tnx, I will. But how come it still occurred when I placed back the >>> 1.62 x-mass exe? TF>> A good question. I don't know the answer, and that's why it would be TF>> quite inteerresting for the beta list to know that the error continues TF>> even when going back to a release version. PC> because the beta had already created the FOLDER, so going back didn't PC> erase the FOLDER you had created. DELETE the folder, then make the PC> account again... That's not it. The second time I tried it, I deleted the folder. -- Best regards, Ricardo van Eck The Netherlands Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AB templates?
Hello Mark,
Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 3:12:20 PM, you wrote:
MP> Hello Paul,
MP> I think there's some kind of conflict between to templates.
Should have been "two" instead of "to", of course.
I don't know what's going on: is it The Bat that can't keep up with
my typing-speed, or what? :-)
Seriously, while typing in The Bat, it often happens one or other
letter seems to be missing. :-( And yes, I am sure I did type it!
Even just now, the "y" in "type" was missing. Seems to occur while the
computer is checking something... In the Taskbar, I see the "Bericht
bewerken" ("edit message"?) lighting up and the prompt freezes for a
second (actually less than a second).
Well, not a big deal, but at least, now you know (the "k" was missing!)
what the reason is why sometimes you might encounter misspelled words
in my messages! :-)
In french (not my mother tongue) they say:
"Les excuses sont fait pour s'en servir" :-)
(pretexts are made to be used)
--
Best Whishes,
Mark
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Re: AB templates?
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 9:12 AM, you wrote: MP> Hello Paul, MP> Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 3:06:37 PM, you wrote: PC>> but when I double-click the AB entry and tab down, it uses the AB new PC>> message template I created. Any ideas?? MP> Does the person belong to a group for which you have created another MP> new message template. MP> I think there's some kind of conflict between to templates. yup, I found it. My wife had ANOTHER group, with that name in it with NO template... -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: "Reply to" field for mailing lists
Hello Mary Bull, On or about Monday, January 20, 2003 at 14:12:32GMT -0600 (which was 3:12 PM in the tropics where I live) Mary Bull opined: 8< Snipped a bunch MB> Peter, this is a very nice list. Some of the people on it know even MB> less than I, and I'm sometimes able to help fellow Senior-Newbies. On MB> the other hand, there are some who have excellent over-all knowledge MB> who are giving their time, and also others whose knowledge, while MB> spotty, like mine, happens to include answers to questions I ask. MB> Hardly any of them have heard of The Bat! however. :) One or two, MB> including the List Moderator, have. Senior-Newbies-L's list protocols MB> are far less stringent than those of TBUDL. :) You must take this opportunity to edu-ma-cate them Mary! Just think, you can be the 'ambassador of proper netiquette' on that list and make a new crop of better informed users! ;-) Work with the moderator by stating the reasons why it is important (from an organizational standpoint) to conform to established protocols. You had to know there was a (hidden) reason why you joined that list! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike I liked things better when I didn't understand them. - Calvin -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Flying in the stratosphere with The Bat! V1.61 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AB templates?
Hello Paul, Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 3:06:37 PM, you wrote: PC> well, this is puzzling me. PC> I have an AB entry for a person, and a new message template. When I PC> start on the To: line, and start typing the domain part of the address, PC> like "HER_ISP.com" it autofills in the correct email address. Then when PC> I tab down to the body it starts with PC> Hello email_ID, ( the email part of the email_ID @HER_ISP.com) PC> but when I double-click the AB entry and tab down, it uses the AB new PC> message template I created. Any ideas?? Does the person belong to a group for which you have created another new message template. I think there's some kind of conflict between to templates. -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: importing contacts from Outlook to TB
Hello Matt Cahill, On or about Monday, January 20, 2003 at 14:13:08GMT -0500 (which was 2:13 PM in the tropics where I live) Matt Cahill expressed: MC> I'm trying to import the contacts from my company's Outlook MC> program to The Bat. I think I've made *some* headway, MC> compared to previous attempts. I found a program called Dawn MC> (http://www.joshie.com/projects/dawn/). Using that, I was MC> able to go: It works pretty darn well. The problem with address book converters is that Micro$haft seems to alter the format (slightly) with each upgrade of the software. This creates havoc with any design of an import function. Only their algorithm included with the new distro seems to be able to correctly identify the existing format and make the adjustment. MC> The problem is this: there are many empty-titled entries at MC> the head of the newly imported address list...these entries MC> contain phone numbers that for some reason belong to some of MC> the other entries but somehow have been orphaned in the MC> process of importing. The imported address list in Dawn (the MC> middle step between importing from OE and exporting to TB) MC> has all of the information intact without orphans. This has been covered before, but is a little dicey. It seems that if you EXCLUDE the birthday field in the export, the problem will be eliminated. Someone correct me if I err... -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Flying in the stratosphere with The Bat! V1.61 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AB templates?
well, this is puzzling me. I have an AB entry for a person, and a new message template. When I start on the To: line, and start typing the domain part of the address, like "HER_ISP.com" it autofills in the correct email address. Then when I tab down to the body it starts with Hello email_ID, ( the email part of the email_ID @HER_ISP.com) but when I double-click the AB entry and tab down, it uses the AB new message template I created. Any ideas?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bat Running Slow
Hi Wayne, On or about Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:47:43GMT -0800 (which was 1:47 PM in the tropics where I live) Wayne Black inquired: S>> My MAIL folder presently stands at 9.56 GB (10,269,755,860 bytes) S>> TB! still runs like clockwork, although the exit mailbox S>> compression can take ten minutes or more ;-) WB> Is there a way to disable the "exit mailbox compression"? I'd be interested in an answer to this too! There is a checkbox for this in each account, and each message folder under the account (when you create it. I have the checkboxes all cleared, but still get it happening when I exit, unless I am shutting down WIN2K, in which case the O/S seems to truncate the operation. The next time I open TB! after a shutdown or reboot, it takes a while to re-index the message folders, as it seems to have been corrupted. The operation has not failed to correct it once (YET) but I fear there may be repurcussions if the process gets interrupted at a critical juncture some future time :-( WB> I use the Compress All Mailbox function on a fairly regular WB> basis. And by the way, how many messages does 9.56 GB WB> represent? At present it is about 138,000 +/-, with massive amounts of attachments. I don't store attachments in a separate folder due to the inherent inability of certain mentally deficient people to use unique filenames ;-( . What are the rules TB! uses in the case where you have 240 messages, each with 01.jpg, 02.jpg, 03.jpg all in the same mail storage folder? I know that in the case of newsgroups, AGENT uses an "auto-increment" feature (optional). I've been unable to find a reference to this. WB> I believe the last I remember, Marck had somewhere around WB> 280,000 messages. I don't think there are *any* email WB> clients that can handle this kind of volume. Oh, I think if the database & indexing system is properly designed (as it does seem to be!) there should be no practical limit to this capability. Hats off to the designers for having such a properly designed system! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike "Be safety conscious. 80% of people are caused by accidents!" -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Flying in the stratosphere with The Bat! V1.61 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Top & Bottom Margin when Printing
Hello Bats, I often have to print a message double-sided, because it's a little bit too long to fit on one paper. I couldn't find a way to change the setting of the above mentioned margins. I suppose it is impossible to adjust them. Removing the full line under the message might help (a little bit) too. -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "syntactically invalid HELO argument"
Hi, Phil Bingham wrote in msgid:000501c2c14a$873da520$2e01000a@valeprb : > I've just started getting this message when attempting to send > messages with TB. Since this message is being sent via exactly the > same route, I presume that I have inadvertently changed a setting > somewhere! Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? In opening the communication with a mail server a so-called HELO greeting is issued by the mail client. The 'language' used in the communication between your mail client and a mail server is called SMTP. It looks like the mail server you are using to send out your mail doesn't like the way TB introduces itself. The bat usually starts its communication with "EHLO" and the name of your computer*. By saying EHLO rather than HELO the Bat declares that it is capable of speaking extended SMTP (which is now widely 'spoken'). There could be two issues: - the mail server doesn't like to be approached with a EHLO greeting - the way your computer's name appears in the greeting is not liked by the mail server In the first case the Bat should fall back to a HELO greeting and mail client and mail server should keep on talking to each other. If this is the case I don't know why this isn't happening. In the last case you'd have to dive deeper to see what OE uses to start the communication and what the Bat uses. The following information might be helpful in tracking down the problem: - Is there any more information in the Bat's logs (Shift-Ctrl-A or Account/View log)? - What type of mail server is the Bat talking to? Regards, Markus *I'm not sure but it could also be that the Bat does it wrong by not using your computer's name in the greeting but rather the name of the computer it is talking to. I can't verify it it on my machine since I am doing various weird things with my outgoing mail. Perhaps somebody else can confirm this. -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "syntactically invalid HELO argument"
Hallo Phil, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:42:12 -GMT (21-1-03, 13:42 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: PB> Apols for sending this with OE, but I've just started getting this PB> message when attempting to send messages with TB. Check your smtp settings. Account -> Properties -> Transport That's the only place that matters on this item. I suppose that your subject is what the server reports? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
Hallo Daniel, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:13:19 +1100GMT (21-1-03, 12:13 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: DH> I have been putting off asking this on this list for ages DH> because i thought it was a waste of time and space, I should DH> have just asked in the beginning. In that case you're not long enough on this list. I've got this clear memory of this subject being discussed. (With the same solution.) Must have been 2002 or 2001, therefore I didn't react any sooner. After all Allie reacted and with my confidence in him, I'd expected him to remember the proper solution. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kludges?
On Monday, January 20, 2003, 11:06 PM, you wrote: MA 1. What exactly is a kludge in terms of TB!s filtering system? MA and, MDP>>> It is simply one of the message headers, like "Subject: $$$". TF> You can make all of them visible by hitting shift-crtl-K. "Kludges" in TF> TB parlance are correctly called RFC822 Headers, and that is what they TF> are called in other parts of TB's interface. TF> If you hit shift-crtl-K on any incoming message (please do it with TF> this one now), you will also find one header that says: References. In TF> this example: TF> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> what's the difference between a KLUDGE and full headers? I always use CTRL-SHIFT-K to display the full headers when forwarding SPAM to ISPs.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"syntactically invalid HELO argument"
Apols for sending this with OE, but I've just started getting this message when attempting to send messages with TB. Since this message is being sent via exactly the same route, I presume that I have inadvertently changed a setting somewhere! Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? Cheers, Phil Bingham Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account settings gone
On Monday, January 20, 2003, 10:53 PM, you wrote: >> Tnx, I will. But how come it still occurred when I placed back the >> 1.62 x-mass exe? TF> A good question. I don't know the answer, and that's why it would be TF> quite inteerresting for the beta list to know that the error continues TF> even when going back to a release version. because the beta had already created the FOLDER, so going back didn't erase the FOLDER you had created. DELETE the folder, then make the account again... -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 things- TAB and AB entries
On Monday, January 20, 2003, 11:10 PM, you wrote: >> I don't get it. TF> Let's say Friend A has several email addresses, and posts at will from TF> one or the other, but wants me to reply always to the same. TF> His AB entry contains all the email address, so when I hit Reply on TF> a message of his coming from any of those addresses, the Reply TF> template from his AB entry will apply. This template contains the TF> following macro: TF> %TO="" %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" TF> This overrides whatever From or Reply-To information was contained in TF> the incoming messages and always sends the reply to TF> [EMAIL PROTECTED] . TF> Get it now? ;-) YES! I didn't understand your template macro at first, I DO NOW! it doesn't help my situation, but I did learn something, thank you! What I need is to be able to select from 2 email addresses per AB entry. I have lots of people I correspond with at work AND at home. Sometimes I send them business stuff, sometimes jokes to their home address(just kidding, I NEVER forward jokes:) and it seems a waste to have 2 AB entries for the same person. any ideas? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Running Slow
ON Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 7:47:34 AM, you wrote: AJ> I decided to close TB! and it wouldn't. Checking the Task Manager it AJ> was taking 97% of CPU cycles. Hi Allister, Was it TB! taking 97% or some other process? In my case Zonelabs started acting up and taking all processor power. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Someone once told me that there is more to life than golf. I think it was my ex-wife. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Multiple AB entries from filters
In reply to Allie's message 'Multiple AB entries from filters' on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 06:42:14 -0500 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Allie, AM> For your filter that you use to add the address, you can go to the AM> advanced tab and select, address must not be in address book // AM> Items - sender . Cheers! Worked a treat. I have been putting off asking this on this list for ages because i thought it was a waste of time and space, I should have just asked in the beginning. Thanks Allie and most importantly, thank you Roelof for your tip. -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
