Re: Hang on mail check

2003-02-19 Thread Sharon Stiles
 I was checking my TBUDL and TBOT mail this morning and there
 were 96 new messages. I always use the connection center, normally
 without any problems. But for some reason, it would hang on message
 #64 while trying to get the headers.

Sorry about the late reply - catching up with messages.

I've had a similar problem a couple of times and found that I could
retrieve all my messages using my Freeserve dialup.  After collecting
them this way I could use the Bat again with no problems.


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[SOT] Spam Conference

2003-02-19 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello all,

I know it is SOT but it may be of interest to anyone trying to
filter/kill/fight spam:

http://www.spamconference.org
http://www.spamconference.org/abstracts.txt
http://www.spamconference.org/proceedings2003.html

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Re[2]: Beta testing

2003-02-19 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Marck,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 4:24:05 AM, you wrote:


MDP I see that you prefer to read text in this order g:

MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] to writing by way normal the in it
MDP join can you, Yes.

By coincidence, I happened to subscribe yesterday, but did not receive
any messages yet, except for 1. Thanks to this message I took a closer
look at it and found out that I had to reply to confirm my
subscription! :-)

.direction right the in writing not for, Sorry

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Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Christophe,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:13:54 +0100 GMT (19/02/03, 07:13 +0700 GMT),
Christophe wrote:

 I need an explanation ; sometimes when I retrieve my e-mails, the
 connection center seems to to messages, I see furtively reception
 of headers : reception message #1 for one message and nothing more,
 I look at, and neither the inbox accounts, nor the filtered folders
 have received an e-mail

You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties /
Mail Management). TB needs to download the header first to see whether
this particular mail was downloaded before. If so, the mail will not
be downloaded again.

 I go to see the view log and I have that :

 19/02/2003, 00:53:00: FETCH - 1 Message(s) in the box, 0 New(s)
 19/02/2003, 00:53:00: FETCH - Connexion terminated - 0 message(s)
 received

Right. 1 message is on the server, but you downloaded it earlier.
There is no new message (a message that you have not downloaded yet).
So, no message is being downloaded. ;-)

 Do you think it comes from the fact I have a selected download
 filter based on a .txt file containing hundreds of e-mail spammers and
 an option to kill mail ?

Not in this case, because the log clearly says that there was no new
message.

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Re[2]: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Christophe
Hello Thomas,

 You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties /
 Mail Management).

No I did not ! I directly delete messages received from server

  TB needs to download the header first to see whether
 this particular mail was downloaded before. If so, the mail will not
 be downloaded again.

ah yes !

 Right. 1 message is on the server, but you downloaded it earlier.
 There is no new message (a message that you have not downloaded yet).
 So, no message is being downloaded. ;-)

ok , but how is it possible if I don't leave massages on the server ?
It's strange...

Thanks a lot

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Re[3]: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
Hello Christophe,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:39:41 AM, you wrote:

C Hello Thomas,

 You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties /
 Mail Management).

C No I did not ! I directly delete messages received from server

  TB needs to download the header first to see whether
 this particular mail was downloaded before. If so, the mail will not
 be downloaded again.

C ah yes !

 Right. 1 message is on the server, but you downloaded it earlier.
 There is no new message (a message that you have not downloaded yet).
 So, no message is being downloaded. ;-)

C ok , but how is it possible if I don't leave massages on the server ?
C It's strange...

C Thanks a lot

C --
C Best regards,
C  Christophemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Yeah,  it  is  a  strange  problem.   I still think you should use the
dispatcher to see what the email is and whether it's spam or what.  If
nothing else, it might give us a direction to look in for the problem.

Thanks for the spammer list!


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Re[3]: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
Hello Christophe,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:39:41 AM, you wrote:

C Hello Thomas,

 You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties /
 Mail Management).

C No I did not ! I directly delete messages received from server

  TB needs to download the header first to see whether
 this particular mail was downloaded before. If so, the mail will not
 be downloaded again.

C ah yes !

 Right. 1 message is on the server, but you downloaded it earlier.
 There is no new message (a message that you have not downloaded yet).
 So, no message is being downloaded. ;-)

C ok , but how is it possible if I don't leave massages on the server ?
C It's strange...

C Thanks a lot

C --
C Best regards,
C  Christophemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Yeah,  it  is  a  strange  problem.   I still think you should use the
dispatcher to see what the email is and whether it's spam or what.  If
nothing else, it might give us a direction to look in for the problem.

Thanks for the spammer list!


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TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Miles Johnson

I just had to rebuild my PC after a nasty crash and I'd love to hear
your preferences/votes as far as the following are concerned, ESPECIALLY
in  the  way  they interact with TB, which is central to my work. Please
vote for something you have actually been using!

FIREWALL

#1 choice
#2 choice
#3 choice

ANTIVIRUS

#1 choice
#2 choice
#3 choice

OTHER?



Thanks so much for taking a minute to post your recommendations!

Best regards,

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Re: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread kristina
Miles,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 3:54:59 PM, Miles wrote:

M FIREWALL
M #1
  Norton Firewall

M ANTIVIRUS
M #1
  Norton Antivirus

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Re: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Gerard

ON Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 4:54:59 PM, you wrote:

MJ FIREWALL

MJ #1 choice  Kerio (does much more)
MJ #2 choice
MJ #last choice   ZoneLabs

MJ ANTIVIRUS

MJ #1 choiceNorton Antivirus
MJ #2 choiceMcAffee
MJ #3 choice?


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Re: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Miles!

On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:54 AM, you wrote:

M ... Please vote for something you have actually been using!

M FIREWALL

Tiny Personal Firewall

M ANTIVIRUS

Kaspersky

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DEAD HORSE (was TB and PC protection)

2003-02-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Miles,

@19-Feb-2003, 10:54 -0500 (15:54 UK time) Miles Johnson [MJ] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Sorry to do this to you but ...

moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Miles.

This topic is way off and I am forced to pronounce it dead.

Please take it off-list or to TBOT.

For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO
REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT.

Thank you.
/moderator

I have replied to this on TBOT.

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Re: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Lebowski

Hello Gerard,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 5:07:00 PM, you wrote:


G ON Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 4:54:59 PM, you wrote:

MJ FIREWALL

MJ #1 choice  Kerio (does much more)
MJ #2 choice
MJ #last choice   ZoneLabs

MJ ANTIVIRUS

MJ #1 choiceNorton Antivirus
MJ #2 choiceMcAffee
MJ #3 choice?



I'd  rather  recommend  Tiny  Personal Firewall, which is freeware yet
good...  and  for  a  virus  scanner  a  commercial  product: F-Secure
Antivirus,  which uses 3 scanner modules at a time, thus theoretically
being more efficent. plus it's easy to use.

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Quoted text in replies

2003-02-19 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello,

I'm after some help with reply templates, and can't seem to find any answers
in the usual places.

Is is possible to have the sender's initials interpreted as below:

John Smith = JS

Smith, John = JS  (instead of SJ)

I.e. The comma separator tells TB! that this name has the last-name first.

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Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hi Thomas,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:31:18 +0700 Thomas Fernandez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need an explanation ; sometimes when I retrieve my e-mails, the
 connection center seems to to messages, I see furtively reception
 of headers : reception message #1 for one message and nothing more,
 I look at, and neither the inbox accounts, nor the filtered folders
 have received an e-mail

  You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties /
  Mail Management). TB needs to download the header first to see whether
  this particular mail was downloaded before. If so, the mail will not
  be downloaded again.

Beside the fact Christophe already denied your assumption let me correct
you: The Bat! _does not_ download the headers of an e-mail if you've set
Leave messages on server. It decides wether to fetch or to ignore a
mail in that setup by inspecting the output of UIDL command, which
only gives a list of server generated UIDs, one per message, and ideally
the server generates the same UID for the same message when asked
another time. If he doesn't you get every message until you delete it
from server manually.
But in no case The Bat! uses the headers to decide if a message was
already downloaded, headers are only fetched when selective download
is aktive of message dispatcher is invoked.
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Re: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hi Miles,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:54:59 -0500 Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please vote for something you have actually been using!
 
 FIREWALL
 
 #1 choice

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #2 choice

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #3 choice

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 ANTIVIRUS
 
 #1 choice

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #2 choice

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #3 choice

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 OTHER?

If not already mentioned: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Christophe,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:39:41 +0100 GMT (19/02/03, 21:39 +0700 GMT),
Christophe wrote:

 You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties /
 Mail Management).

 No I did not ! I directly delete messages received from server

Strange indeed. How can there be a message which is not new, then? Hm.

Anyway, let's say there is a message and you delete from server. TB
still needs to download the headers first, in order to compare them
with your kill file. That's why you first see downloading header.

Then, let's say the message fits your kill conditions as per .txt
file. The message will be deleted on the server - and not be
downloaded. So 0 messages received will still be right.

Now there should be no message on your server any more.

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Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:24:00 +0100 GMT (19/02/03, 23:24 +0700 GMT),
Peter Palmreuther wrote:

 Beside the fact Christophe already denied your assumption let me correct
 you: The Bat! _does not_ download the headers of an e-mail if you've set
 Leave messages on server. It decides wether to fetch or to ignore a
 mail in that setup by inspecting the output of UIDL command,

Ah, I stand corrected. I should watch TB's dialog better.
Unfortunately, this is still not possible from within TB and I didn't
check this particular dialog with Ethereal.

 But in no case The Bat! uses the headers to decide if a message was
 already downloaded, headers are only fetched when selective download
 is aktive of message dispatcher is invoked.
 ^ I know you  mean or, not if. ;-)

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Re: Quoted text in replies

2003-02-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Nick,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:16:34 +GMT (19-2-03, 17:16 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

ND Is is possible to have the sender's initials interpreted as below:
ND John Smith = JS
ND Smith, John = JS  (instead of SJ)

Yes.

%QuoteStyle='%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(\w)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OFromFName%-
%SUBPATT=1%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(\w)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OFromLName%-
%SUBPATT=1%-'

I suppose there might be better solutions.

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Re: Wrapping of paragraphs in replies to HTML email

2003-02-19 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi Marck,

On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 22:39 GMT +, Marck D Pearlstone
[MDP] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

MDP I recommend that you use the recursive wrap macro listed in the
MDP Macro library on the FAQ web site.

MDP See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap

How does one use the recursive wrap macro in conjunction with the
quote extraction macro to strip pgp sigs and ads?

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Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hi Thomas,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:34:21 +0700
Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  is aktive of message dispatcher is invoked.
  ^ I know you  mean or, not if. ;-)

This C :-) o  1 :-)))
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Re: Wrapping of paragraphs in replies to HTML email

2003-02-19 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, Kevin Coates wrote...

MDP I recommend that you use the recursive wrap macro listed in the
MDP Macro library on the FAQ web site.

MDP See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap

 How does one use the recursive wrap macro in conjunction with the
 quote extraction macro to strip pgp sigs and ads?

Stab in the dark, but you could probably change %COMMENT on the first
line to be:

%COMMENT='%QINCLIDE=nameofpgpstrip'

That would probably set %COMMENT to be the fixed quotes, and then run
it on that instead.

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Re: Wrapping of paragraphs in replies to HTML email

2003-02-19 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, Jonathan Angliss wrote...

 %COMMENT='%QINCLIDE=nameofpgpstrip'

Silly fingers... should be %QINCLUDE not %QINCLIDE :)

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Re[2]: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Miles Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PP Hi Miles,

PP On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:54:59 -0500 Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please vote for something you have actually been using!
 
 FIREWALL
 
 #1 choice

PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #2 choice

PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #3 choice

PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 ANTIVIRUS
 
 #1 choice

PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #2 choice

PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #3 choice

PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 OTHER?

PP If not already mentioned: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Now THAT'S very helpful...

I'm afraid you missed the operative words, which were ESPECIALLY in the
way they interact with TB. One would think that this would be of great
interest to many TBUDL readers, who unlike me may not be familiar or
signed on with TBOT. That's why I posted here.

Peter I often agree with your posts but this time I think you're way off
the mark. I will take this subject to TBOT but I do not believe that
this should be OT at all (neither would you if you had spent the past
few days rebuilding a crashed machine, well, at least one would hope...)
 
Best regards,

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Question

2003-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
Here's a question...

When I do a tools/backup in TB, does it back up the filters?  What else does it back 
up?

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Re: Question

2003-02-19 Thread ~John

I just backup the whole theBat! directory as well as the registry
entries. I have used theBat's backup feature before, but was very
disapointed in it later when I tried to restore everything.

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- - - David Calvarese wrote - - -
D Here's a question...

D When I do a tools/backup in TB, does it back up the filters?  What else does it 
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Re[2]: Question

2003-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
Hello ~John,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 2:21:31 PM, you wrote:


~ I just backup the whole theBat! directory as well as the registry
~ entries. I have used theBat's backup feature before, but was very
~ disapointed in it later when I tried to restore everything.

~ --

~ ~John

~ - - - David Calvarese wrote - - -
D Here's a question...

D When I do a tools/backup in TB, does it back up the filters?  What else does it 
back up?

~ - - - End of David Calvarese's message - - -

That's kinda hard to do to a floppy.  


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Re[3]: Question

2003-02-19 Thread John L Crain
Floppy? Can you still get those?

I tend to follow the Backup the directory method. I use CDs and archive them

JC



DC Hello ~John,

DC Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 2:21:31 PM, you wrote:


~ I just backup the whole theBat! directory as well as the registry
~ entries. I have used theBat's backup feature before, but was very
~ disapointed in it later when I tried to restore everything.

~ --

~ ~John

~ - - - David Calvarese wrote - - -
D Here's a question...

D When I do a tools/backup in TB, does it back up the filters?  What else does it 
back up?

~ - - - End of David Calvarese's message - - -

DC That's kinda hard to do to a floppy.  



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Re[4]: Question

2003-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
Hello John,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 2:34:49 PM, you wrote:

JLC Floppy? Can you still get those?

JLC I tend to follow the Backup the directory method. I use CDs and archive them

JLC JC



DC Hello ~John,

DC Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 2:21:31 PM, you wrote:


~ I just backup the whole theBat! directory as well as the registry
~ entries. I have used theBat's backup feature before, but was very
~ disapointed in it later when I tried to restore everything.

~ --

~ ~John

~ - - - David Calvarese wrote - - -
D Here's a question...

D When I do a tools/backup in TB, does it back up the
D filters?  What else does it back up?

~ - - - End of David Calvarese's message - - -

DC That's kinda hard to do to a floppy.  


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Re: Quoted text in replies

2003-02-19 Thread Gerard

ON Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 6:11:01 PM, you wrote:
RO I suppose there might be better solutions.

Hi Roelof,

I would suggest you set it in Account|properties|templates|reply and
mark in the sender information used for quotation the initials box.

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Re: Question

2003-02-19 Thread ~John

Its easy to do with a CD-R

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Re[2]: Question

2003-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
Hello ~John,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 3:24:57 PM, you wrote:


~ Its easy to do with a CD-R

~ --

~ ~John

~ - - - David Calvarese wrote - - -
D That's kinda hard to do to a floppy.
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Yeah, but one of the computers doesn't have a CDR/CDRW drive in it otherwise I would 
have used that solution.


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Re:

2003-02-19 Thread Michael L. Wilson
 
Hello Spyder,

It works well on my system.  I put a command line switch to checkall
when it launches, but it works.

Michael

Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 11:25:14 PM, you wrote:



S Does anyone use McAfee's spam killer?  How does The Bat (and my 15 different
S email accounts) deal with McAfee launching The Bat to read email and know to
S which address to send it??


 

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Re:

2003-02-19 Thread Michael L. Wilson
 
Hello Miles,



Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 7:54:59 AM, you wrote:




MJ I just had to rebuild my PC after a nasty crash and I'd love to hear
MJ your preferences/votes as far as the following are concerned, ESPECIALLY
MJ in  the  way  they interact with TB, which is central to my work. Please
MJ vote for something you have actually been using!

MJ FIREWALL

MJ #1 choice  Zone Alarm
MJ #2 choice  Black Ice
MJ #3 choice  none

MJ ANTIVIRUS

MJ #1 choice Panda Titanium (www.pandasoftware.com)
MJ #2 choice
MJ #3 choice

MJ OTHER?



MJ Thanks so much for taking a minute to post your recommendations!

MJ Best regards,

MJ Miles Johnson
MJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MJ Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1


 

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Re:

2003-02-19 Thread Michael L. Wilson
 
Hello Spyder,

Works great.  I use the /checkall swtich.

Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 11:25:14 PM, you wrote:



S Does anyone use McAfee's spam killer?  How does The Bat (and my 15 different
S email accounts) deal with McAfee launching The Bat to read email and know to
S which address to send it??


 

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Re: Quoted text in replies

2003-02-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerard,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:11:26 +0100GMT (19-2-03, 21:11 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

RO I suppose there might be better solutions.
G I would suggest you set it in Account|properties|templates|reply
G and mark in the sender information used for quotation the
G initials box.

That would give wrong initials, when the original sender had his name
listed as lastname, firstname, because I've got that and I still get
LF
where Nick wanted
FL
as listed initials.


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Re: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Miles,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 3:54:59 PM, you wrote:

MJ I just had to rebuild my PC after a nasty crash and I'd love to
hear
MJ your preferences/votes as far as the following are concerned,
ESPECIALLY
MJ in  the  way  they interact with TB, which is central to my work.
Please
MJ vote for something you have actually been using!

MJ FIREWALL

#1 choice Agnitum Outpost Personal Firewall Pro (or free)
#2 choice Sygate Personal Firewall Pro (or free)

MJ ANTIVIRUS

#1 choice Sophos - There's a plug-in for The Bat!

M
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Re[2]: Wrapping of paragraphs in replies to HTML email

2003-02-19 Thread David McIver
O Oracles of TB!

MDP See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap

   Thanks for pointing me to the above web site. With the QT macros
   there I have been able to set up some nicely formatted templates
   for use within the company I work for (small company, 6 people, I
   do all the programming and network admin stuff).

   We recently switch to TB! to help us manage all the email we handle
   from different projects. I suspect that as the weeks progress I
   will have a number of questions for this list, which has been very
   helpful thus far!
   
   I have one question on the QT macro for wrapping HTML messages.
   After the quoted message has been formatted, there is normally
   around 6 blank lines. For example the template:

  blah blah blah ...

  QInclude=wq

  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

   has multiple blank lines between the quoted text and the
   terminating '=-=-=-=' line. Has anyone modified (or can suggest how
   to modify) the 'wq' QT macro so that trailing blank lines are not
   reproduced in the quoted text?

Thanks again,
  David

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RegEx Template Help: Pruning/Deleting Duplicate Newlines

2003-02-19 Thread Mike Dillinger
Hello,

I'm using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 2000 SP3 Build 2195.

I'm trying to make a regex template to get rid of duplicate newlines.
So far, this is what I have (and I know it's very wrong):

=[ RemoveDupNewlines ]=
%QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m)%-
((\n){2})%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=1'

Can anyone help me out?  I may not even be close.  Right now, it's not
doing anything.

Thank you!
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Re: RegEx Template Help: Pruning/Deleting Duplicate Newlines

2003-02-19 Thread Allie Martin
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mike Dillinger [MD] wrote:'

MD I'm trying to make a regex template to get rid of duplicate newlines.
MD So far, this is what I have (and I know it's very wrong):

MD =[ RemoveDupNewlines ]=
MD %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m)%-
MD ((\n){2})%-
MD %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=1'

MD Can anyone help me out?  I may not even be close.  Right now, it's not
MD doing anything.

You should take this question to TBTECH. TBTECH was created to
discuss these technical issues and also, the regex experts are
subscribed there and may not be subscribed to TBUDL.

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Re: Wrapping of paragraphs in replies to HTML email

2003-02-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi David,

@20-Feb-2003, 09:50 +1030 (23:20 UK time) David McIver [DM] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DMI have one question on the QT macro for wrapping HTML
DMmessages. After the quoted message has been formatted, there
DMis normally around 6 blank lines. For example the template:

 ... snip

DM... Has anyone modified (or can suggest how to modify) the
DM'wq' QT macro so that trailing blank lines are not reproduced
DMin the quoted text?

Every line of macro has a payload of a blank line unless it ends
with a %- macro. Is that a clue? That includes and %qinclude=blah
lines too.

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Re: TB and PC protection

2003-02-19 Thread Mike Alexander
Hi Miles,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 3:54:59 PM, you wrote:



MJ FIREWALL

MJ #1 choice

Agnitum Outpost (www.agnitum.com)

MJ #2 choice

Norton Firewall

MJ #3 choice

Tiny Firewall

MJ ANTIVIRUS

MJ #1 choice

Norton AV

MJ #2 choice

AGV

MJ #3 choice

F-Prot


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Re[2]: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Christophe
Hello Thomas,

 Anyway, let's say there is a message and you delete from server. TB
 still needs to download the headers first, in order to compare them
 with your kill file. That's why you first see downloading header.

 Then, let's say the message fits your kill conditions as per .txt
 file. The message will be deleted on the server - and not be
 downloaded. So 0 messages received will still be right.

Surely, I just desable the selected download filter, beacause I see that it
kills e-mail that sould not be, for exemple a mail sent from my second
account is killed, and when I desactive the filter, the same email can pass, and yet
my e-mail address is jot in the spammer list .txt, so I have the impression
the selected download is not very trustworthy ! I prefer for the
moment deal with an incoming filter with keywords that send suspicious
mail in a spam folder taht i can sometim esverify before deleting :-)

Thanks

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Re[4]: Retrieving mail problrem ?

2003-02-19 Thread Christophe
 Yeah,  it  is  a  strange  problem.   I still think you should use the
 dispatcher to see what the email is and whether it's spam or what.  If
 nothing else, it might give us a direction to look in for the problem.

Take care with using my txt file and the selected download filter !
I just desable it, beacause I see that it
kills e-mail that sould not be, for exemple a mail sent from my second
account is killed, and when I desactive the filter, the same email can pass, and yet
my e-mail address is jot in the spammer list .txt, so I have the impression
the selected download is not very trustworthy ! I prefer for the
moment deal with an incoming filter with keywords that send suspicious
mail in a spam folder taht i can sometimes verify before deleting :-)

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PC-cillin vs the Bat

2003-02-19 Thread Mjs720
2/19/03 11:13 PM

Hello TBUDL,

I experiencing some difficulties with the Bat v1.62 and PC-cillin '03.
Every time PC-cillin is active and I attempt to use the Bat...I
experience the Bat slowing down and locking up.

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