Re[2]: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Bonjour aceman, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 3:49:55 AM, tu écrivais: In my case the angle bracket buttons have been replaced with: 4 44 3 33 r s Confirmed on Win 98Me -- Cordialement, Louis-Dominique mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: So you just bought The Bat? Ritlabs says 'Get stuffed'
Hello jaj, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 1:00:55 AM, you wrote: The e-mail stated that they were sending free upgrades to everyone who had ordered on or after June 1. Thats what the majority here would've expected from Ritlabs, too. -- Best regards, Alexander The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hi Peter and list, On Thursday, September 9, 2004 at 07:57:51 GMT +0200 (which was 07:57 where I live) Peter Fjelsten wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses: This is a known bug. I don't know if it has been fixed in service release 3.0.0.8 Not corrected in 3.0.0.8 BTW: That happens only when your selected language is English. With intl pack intalled and another language selected the buttons are ok. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.0.8, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why do replys not go to the same address the orginals are sent to?
Hi Michael, MLW Hi, MLW When I receive messages from this list, I use a filter to put the MLW messages in a common folder called TBUDL. I have tried to reply to a MLW few of these messages, yet the default from address that is chosen MLW is the top of my account list, sorted alphabetically. Why does The MLW Bat!, 3.0, with no bugs, sometimes do this? Should it not always, and MLW I mean ALWAYS choose the address that the message was originally MLW addressed to? Perhaps neither here nor there, but I just found something while editing an eMail. The status bar at the bottom of the eMail shows the account, which will be used for replying, right? (2nd item from the right at the bottom of the editing window.) If you have more than one account, you can right-click on that item, and it will allow you to change to another account, even when replying from common folders. Even from the outbox of Account1, the account can be changed that way, and the message is automatically moved to the outbox of AccountN. Other status bar items also have similar context-menus, FWIW. Myself, I set the identity to desired account in the common folder's properties. The new messages replies land in the desired outbox, no problems. -- David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why do replys not go to the same address the orginals are sent to?
Hi Michael, The status bar at the bottom of the eMail shows the account, which will be used for replying, right? (2nd item from the right at the bottom of the editing window.) If you have more than one account, you can right-click on that item, and it will allow you to change to another account, even when replying from common folders. Wow! Another unknown feature discovered - it's a bit like Easter Eggs! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
V3 Questions
Hi folks, I have seen on the RitLabs Homepage, that a new TB! version is available. What I do not see is a reason to upgrade from V2 (The product page gives very less reason [A transparent ticker is no reason for an upgrade imho]) What is your opinion? What features are woth the upgrade? And a second thing: I need to use TB! via Wine on a Linux Notebook. Has anybody installed V3 in a wine emvironment? Viele Grüße Michael Wagner Call A CD - Ihr persönlicher Downloadservice und CD-Shop Im Web www.callacd.com oder per Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Bonjour Michael, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 10:18:48 AM, tu écrivais: Not corrected in 3.0.0.8 BTW: That happens only when your selected language is English. With intl pack intalled and another language selected the buttons are ok. I just got a try and you are right Michael, but reading this list since about two weeks it seems that many of users use English language. Off topic (Even french like me to improve my fluent understanding an speaking. You will judge later how much I need ;) -- Cordialement, Louis-Dominique mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters in v3 (and perhaps v2 as well for all I know)
Filters are driving me potty. I belong to a mailing list for Pentax camera owners. This list has a lot of messages a day but I am only interested in messages that are about my camera, namely a *ist D - a stupid name I know. I have created a virtual folder that looks for any messages for which: message source contains *ist d OR message source contains *istd This works really well. However, what I really want to do, is delete any messages that do not contain these. As a first step, I thought that instead of using a virtual folder I would simple move all messages meeting the above criteria to another folder. However, having removed the virtual folder and create a new filter on the inbox using the same criteria I find I get NO matches!! Why would it work for virtual folders and not normal filters? Surely it is the same code? What am I doing that is stupid? Please help... (and if anyone would care to tell me instead how to dump any messages that do not meet the criteria instead, that would be even better). -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are not confused : you are misinformed Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
DialogWindows
Hi All, I'm wondering if the behavior of some dialogs is a desired feature, or unintentional. Try the following: Open an address book. Open a Sorting Office dialog. From the address book, open an address. Switch back to the Sorting Office dialog. The Sorting Office dialog appears to have focus (the caption bar is colored, instead of grayed out), but it cannot be moved or resized, nor does it respond to any other actions. The Edit Address dialog must be closed before the Sorting Office dialog will respond. The same with the Edit Mail Message dialog. To my way of thinking, it's nice to see the dialog, but the caption should retain the inactive (grayed out) color, so as to avoid confusion. Just noticed: Switching via Alt-Tab is not possible. Once the Edit Address dialog is opened, the other windows (Edit Mail Message, Sorting Office, etc.) disappear from the Z-Order (and the dialog displayed during Alt-Tabing). They can, however, be reached via the TaskBar (and mouse), which makes me think that this behavior is unintentional, and potentially a Windows misbehavior. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Mary, Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 6:58:22 PM, you wrote: ND Erk! I thought that I'd checked everything before I upgraded. MB Nick, it's going to be okay. It's being worked on. Thanks for the encouragement. It's a bit of a strain sometimes as I'm one of a very few who don't go the MS route. Any problems I encounter are perceived as a result of me playing with toy software. (really) MB Here's a copy-and-paste from the tbbeta list, MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What was the subject of this thread? I don't follow tbbeta and need to pluck it from gmane via a newsreader. MB Marek Mikus said: MB there is no API of Kaspersky Antivirus available, so Ritlabs can't MB create own plugin using it, COM plugin included until KAV 4.5 version MB was removed in KAV 5.x as I think, so actual internal support is no MB longer available because this. Ritlabs prepared betaversion of MB external plugin, You can test it. Let us know, if it works for You. MB http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/beta/avp.rar I don't really understand this as I'm still on 4.5 personal pro. The 5.x is only personal right now and light of quite a few features. As far as I know the pers-pro will continue to support the TB! plugin. MB Come get beta v. 3.0.0.8 and help us test it. You could test that MB Kaspersky plug-in that Marek mentions. Can't do that I'm afraid, I live and die by my e-mail program, see above. ND It seems that Ritlabs are not alone though, I've recently ND upgraded: ND - Kaspersky AVmachine hangs and continual disk activity MB Would you consider using F-Secure? It's no more expensive than MB Kaspersky Pro (which I used to have and did like) and it doesn't use MB any more resources. Plus its user interface is easier for me. And, MB since it runs 3 separate scanning engines, it does seem to me to offer MB a little bit more anti-virus safety. In hind sight I probably might, but now I've a) paid for kav and b) know my way around its idiosyncrasies I have to stay. ND - Agnitum Outpost random component blocking MB I don't know what this program is. It's supposed to be the best firewall out there. Don't get me started... ND Tempted to restore from last week's backup, I can't believe that ND I'm getting nostalgic for *last week*! MB Nick, Nick!!! Keep the faith, baby! :) Just booked a week in Greece - sans laptop. Hopefully everything will be sorted when I get back. -- Nick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Nick! On Thursday, September 09, 2004, 5:47 AM, you wrote: MB Nick, it's going to be okay. It's being worked on. ND Thanks for the encouragement. It's a bit of a strain sometimes as ND I'm one of a very few who don't go the MS route. Any problems I ND encounter are perceived as a result of me playing with toy ND software. (really) What are you using? (This comment might be more appropriate for tbot.) Linux? I am seriously considering learning that OS. MB Here's a copy-and-paste from the tbbeta list, MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ND What was the subject of this thread? I don't follow tbbeta and ND need to pluck it from gmane via a newsreader. Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.0.7 is now available Not too helpful, being so broad, I guess. Anyway, that's why I quoted Marek in full, even though I didn't know that you weren't following tbbeta. MB Marek Mikus said: MB there is no API of Kaspersky Antivirus available, so Ritlabs can't MB create own plugin using it, COM plugin included until KAV 4.5 version MB was removed in KAV 5.x as I think, so actual internal support is no MB longer available because this. Ritlabs prepared betaversion of MB external plugin, You can test it. Let us know, if it works for You. MB http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/beta/avp.rar ND I don't really understand this as I'm still on 4.5 personal pro. ND The 5.x is only personal right now and light of quite a few ND features. As far as I know the pers-pro will continue to support ND the TB! plugin. Oh, I understand better now. MB Come get beta v. 3.0.0.8 and help us test it. You could test that MB Kaspersky plug-in that Marek mentions. ND Can't do that I'm afraid, I live and die by my e-mail program, see ND above. I understand. ND It seems that Ritlabs are not alone though, I've recently ND upgraded: ND - Kaspersky AVmachine hangs and continual disk activity MB Would you consider using F-Secure? ... ND In hind sight I probably might, but now I've a) paid for kav and b) ND know my way around its idiosyncrasies I have to stay. I understand that, also. I changed to F-Secure only after my year's license for Kaspersky Personal Pro ran out last November. ND - Agnitum Outpost random component blocking MB I don't know what this program is. ND It's supposed to be the best firewall out there. Don't get me ND started... Later, gator, perhaps? I'm using Sygate (free) right now. Just began with that last week. So far, so good. Only thing is that a splash Register now? screen comes up every time at boot. Otherwise, it's faithful, helpful, and unobtrusive. ND Tempted to restore from last week's backup, I can't believe that ND I'm getting nostalgic for *last week*! MB Nick, Nick!!! Keep the faith, baby! :) ND Just booked a week in Greece - sans laptop. Hopefully everything ND will be sorted when I get back. Keeping my fingers crossed for you. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP account won't send
Hello Lynn, On 09 September 2004, 18:14 -0700 (09/09/200402:14 local time) Lynn [L] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L Checking out v3 here, and have a really peculiar problem L with my IMAP account. It won't send mail about 3 out of L 5 sends, and when it fails, it doesn't even try .. that L is, I hit the send button, and it just sits there. It L doesn't even try. The account log doesn't show a send L effort, either. L The server is Dovecot, if that's any use at all ... and it L looks like mail comes in fine. Are you using a local or remote Sent Mail folder? -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.9 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: If there are obstacles, the shortest line between two points may be a crooked one. BERTOLT BRECHT Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Mary, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 12:45:07 PM, you wrote: MB Nick, it's going to be okay. It's being worked on. ND Thanks for the encouragement. It's a bit of a strain sometimes as ND I'm one of a very few who don't go the MS route. Any problems I ND encounter are perceived as a result of me playing with toy ND software. (really) MB What are you using? (This comment might be more appropriate for tbot.) MB Linux? I am seriously considering learning that OS. Ha... the toy software I was talking about is TB! That says something about Microsoft's position in the market. I do use Linux quite a lot though - Gentoo (www.gentoo.org). I made this decision because a) they have a nice friendly user community (quite bat-like, but much bigger and so less personal) and b) it's a source-based distro so you can can tweak your compile options for your hardware. You'd be surprised how much performance you can gain by compiling for *your* architecture and omitting lots of just in case options that the Suse's and the Mandrake's of this world put in. If you want to talk more I'll see you on the other side... (tbot) If you've got time and you don't *need* to be up 100% of the time then it's a blast. TB! runs OK under wine too, I ran for about six months with Windows and Linux sharing the same database. I don't think that the much talked about Crossover Office offers anything extra (except office of course). -- Nick Playing with TheBat!: v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book makros
Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:47:41 +0200 (4:47 PM EDT here) Ralph wrote: somebody i don't have in my adress book writes me, i add them to adress book and reply - but i want to reply with e.g. Hello firstname lastname, with the info from the adress book and not the name, the sender of the to be replied mail uses, e.g., if he / she doesn't use a name after all, i just have Hello emailadress,... You might want to look at the following templates in TB!'s Macro and QT Library http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php . Greet All Recipients (this is the one I use) http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php#greet+all+recipients Smart Addressing http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php#smart+addressing As they stand, the templates' greetings are by first name (when known), but you might want to consider modifying them. Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3 (and perhaps v2 as well for all I know)
Hallo Stuart, On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:54:10 +0100GMT (9-9-2004, 11:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SM Filters are driving me potty. Don't despair. SM I belong to a mailing list for Pentax camera owners. This list has SM a lot of messages a day but I am only interested in messages that SM are about my camera, That's understandable. SM namely a *ist D - a stupid name I know. But a nice camera SM However, what I really want to do, is delete any messages SM that do not contain these. ACK SM However, having removed the virtual folder and create a new filter SM on the inbox using the same criteria I find I get NO matches!! I guess that you had a filter in place that moved Pentax messages to another folder. Now if you follow that with a filter that will be triggered by a subselection of the same messages it won't do that, unless you set the option 'continue processing with other filters' (both v2 and v3) or when you make the second filter a subfilter for the first (v3 only) As you're looking for something that'll work for both v2 and v3, you could try this: Filter1: Sender contains list-address AND message source does not contain *ist d AND message source does not contain *istd Action move to trash Filter2: Sender contains list-address Action move to folder Filters are processed top down in the sorting office. As filter1 processes every list message without '*ist d' and '*istd' the only list messages that filter2 will see are those with either one or both of these strings. So filter2 doesn't need to be more specific than this. When you'd change the order of these two filters, this solution wouldn't work anymore, because filter2 picked all of the messages, therefore letting filter1 run dry. To prevent this you'd need to set 'continue processing with other filters' on filter2 and you'd need to set the source folder for filter1 to the target folder of filter2. Changing the order would have two disadvantages. 1: Most of your list messages will be processed twice by a filter, this takes time 2: Your filters are getting more complicated 3: Even though they're deleted from your list folder, the unwanted list messages will be copied to your list folder and therefore they'll take space until the next time you're compressing that folder. Note: Most people tend to skip on characters that are neither letter nor number (hardly anybody on this list talks about 'The Bat!') and unless Pentax owners differ on this point (what I cannot imagine, myself owning a Pentax as secondary camera) they'll tend to skip the asterix, so you could do that too. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpAw4aK00tkK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Nick! On Thursday, September 09, 2004, 8:40 AM, you wrote: MB What are you using? (This comment might be more appropriate for MB tbot.) Linux? I am seriously considering learning that OS. ND Ha... the toy software I was talking about is TB! That says ND something about Microsoft's position in the market. LOL ND I do use Linux quite a lot though ... If you want to talk more ND I'll see you on the other side... (tbot) Okay. There's a club of Linux users here in town that meets once a month--help for newbies there. I was thinking of checking it out. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V3 Questions
Hallo Michael, On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:29:39 +0200GMT (9-9-2004, 11:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MW What is your opinion? What features are woth the upgrade? The NFS (New Filtering System) is that all by itself: - filtering on file name - subfilters - enhanced possibilities for filtering on certain headers without resorting to regexp - all conditions on the same tab (no advanced tab anymore), so you can see in one look what triggers the filter - filtering on time of creation/reception MW And a second thing: I need to use TB! via Wine on a Linux Notebook. MW Has anybody installed V3 in a wine emvironment? Dunno. Can you install msi installation files on Wine? MW Viele Grüße MW Michael Wagner MW MW Call A CD - Ihr persönlicher Downloadservice und CD-Shop MW Im Web www.callacd.com oder per Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MW MW Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: MW http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpj338U1CEff.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Thu, 9 Sep 2004, at 14:40:01 +0100, @ @ when Nick Dutton wrote: TB! runs OK under wine too, I ran for about six months with Windows and Linux sharing the same database. I don't think that the much talked about Crossover Office offers anything extra (except office of course). Could you please send your Wine settings for TB for me to ponder it? TB runs in my Libranet and Vector, but with mutable results. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQGCb9q62QPd3XuIRAre6AJ0Zhjw9ljuN2gqhxPMWdJTXYLUgAACfXX7R hIcIAnLsGg+kL6SSwpTR64Y= =57HJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat
Hello, Is there a way to incorporate a GnuPG Key Manager, for example GPGKeys, in The Bat? Apparently there are options only for PGP, covering practically all versions up to version 8, but nothing similar for GnuPG. -- Best regards, Costas pgp1vDT9QUyFP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
Mon, 6 Sep 2004 23:36:12 +0200 (5:36 PM EDT here) Mica Mijatovic wrote: In newer versions of TB!, is it possible to 'reply all' while quoting only selected text? Right click on the preview pane: Message Reply to All quoting selected text. (In v2.12) Doesn't work on my system. Are you using 2.12.00? Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters in v3 (and perhaps v2 as well for all I know)
Hi Roelof, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 2:55:34 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Stuart, SM Filters are driving me potty. RO Don't despair. Aargh!!! I am trying. SM namely a *ist D - a stupid name I know. RO But a nice camera Indeed. SM However, what I really want to do, is delete any messages SM that do not contain these. RO ACK SM However, having removed the virtual folder and create a new filter SM on the inbox using the same criteria I find I get NO matches!! RO I guess that you had a filter in place that moved Pentax messages to RO another folder. Now if you follow that with a filter that will be RO triggered by a subselection of the same messages it won't do that, RO unless you set the option 'continue processing with other filters' RO (both v2 and v3) or when you make the second filter a subfilter for RO the first (v3 only) RO As you're looking for something that'll work for both v2 and v3, you RO could try this: I am now on v3. I am trying to find the regular expression that will match, in general syntax terms [*]ist[-][d] in the subject line or main text (where [] denotes optional and this is a complete word so I do not get matches on words beginning with ist) I assume this should be something along these lines: (?i)^*?ist-?d?$ where: (?i) says case does not matter (is this the default anyway?) ^ is meant to indicate this is the start of a word *? is meant to indicate zero or one * -? is meant to indicate zero or one - d? is meant to indicate zero or one d $ is meant to indicate that this is the end of the word I am guessing that * and - have special meanings so I can not do it this way. RO Note: Most people tend to skip on characters that are neither letter RO nor number (hardly anybody on this list talks about 'The Bat!') and RO unless Pentax owners differ on this point (what I cannot imagine, RO myself owning a Pentax as secondary camera) they'll tend to skip the RO asterix, so you could do that too. Sadly, a very high proportion of the members include the *. Stuart -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are not confused : you are misinformed Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Nick Dutton, 08-Sep-2004 19:37, you wrote: - Agnitum Outpost random component blocking That happened to me with the free version of Outpost all the time. Suddenly the browser, or the mail program, or something else, was in the blocklist, instead of the allowed list. I have seen the same behaviour on others machines, too, so I got rid of it. (you're running WinXP+SP2 - the built-in firewall should be enough for basic protection) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hello Michael Geyer, 09-Sep-2004 10:18, you wrote: BTW: That happens only when your selected language is English. But it doesn't need to happen. No problems here. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It's a good thing money can't buy happiness. We couldn't stand the commercials. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: some filters not working in v3
Hello Lynn, Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 5:51:57 PM, you wrote: I had 2 that weren't working ... after messing around them for 2 days, I discovered that the folder they were being filtered to didn't exist any more .. doh. The folders do exist. About half my filters do not work. Unfortunately two of these filters are the most used. :-( -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3 (and perhaps v2 as well for all I know)
Hallo Stuart, On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:14:23 +0100GMT (9-9-2004, 16:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SM [*]ist[-][d] in the subject line or main text (where [] SM denotes optional and this is a complete word so I do not get SM matches on words beginning with ist) SM I assume this should be something along these lines: SM (?i)^*?ist-?d?$ A dash? I thought it was *ist d I'd go for ^\*?ist\s?d$ \s standing for a space Why do you give an option for the 'd', without that it's an analog slr IIRC. SM I am guessing that * and - have special meanings so I can not do it this way. You can escape special characters by using a backslash. RO Note: Most people tend to skip on characters that are neither letter RO nor number (hardly anybody on this list talks about 'The Bat!') and SM Sadly, a very high proportion of the members include the *. That's not so bad, after all you can search for it. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpaCEOVYilth.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hello Alexander, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 7:55:52 AM, you wrote: But it doesn't need to happen. No problems here. :-) What version of Windows are you using? What font(s) are you using? -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hello Terry G. Munson, 09-Sep-2004 17:06, you wrote: But it doesn't need to happen. No problems here. :-) What version of Windows are you using? XP Pro SP2 english + TB! v3 english. What font(s) are you using? I'm using Tahoma, whenever possible [1]. The adress lists entry are shown using Tahoma. I don't know which font is used to create the in the adress picker, maybe its a different one, I don't know. [1] except in TB!s editors/viewers I use Lucida Typewriter - fixed width -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Outer space is like Dolly Parton: you don't believe it, but there it is. -- Lorne Greene Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ritlab feedback email: does it work?
Hello, all. I've sent some bug reports, as well as requests for information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the Help - feedback email). I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? WL -- . Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Thu, 9 Sep 2004, at 10:00:57 -0400, @ @ when Dan Grunberg wrote: In newer versions of TB!, is it possible to 'reply all' while quoting only selected text? Right click on the preview pane: Message Reply to All quoting selected text. (In v2.12) Doesn't work on my system. Are you using 2.12.00? Yep. The info of version I use is always in my headers, for TB groups. I don't know why it wouldn't work for you... What part doesn't work there? Selected text? Reply to All? - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 8 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQHws9q62QPd3XuIRAkbUAJ9OqMim5A1CxhdhO1nTBJJ02BcFOwCfXYqN tjndAXwVSSxw8E8gi1XLdwA= =WJ53 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Fri, 10 Sep 2004, at 00:52:17 +0900, @ @ when WL wrote: I've sent some bug reports, as well as requests for information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the Help - feedback email). I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? It doesn't work. It's included in GUI after some members asked for a better TB graphic interface. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 8 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQH5O9q62QPd3XuIRAi5GAJ0f5cbg44IY17SpyC6X1YqIVuijQACfSlA2 wQNtkq/mavOZz3XBbnwglc4= =5iI4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
WL, On 09-09-2004 17:52, you [W] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: W Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? No. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.0.8 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
filters now seem to work (was:some filters not working in v3)
Hi All All my filters seem to be working now (knock on wood). Anyway it might be a coincidence but I couldn't get the changes I made to filters to work until I closed TB and restarted TB. Kind of a pain when changes are made but seems to work. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
Hello Dan, On 9 Sep 2004 at 10:00:57 -0400 GMT [16:00 CEST] you wrote: Right click on the preview pane: Message Reply to All quoting selected text. (In v2.12) DG Doesn't work on my system. Are you using 2.12.00? What doesn't work? Try it: Look at a message in the preview pane not in it's own window. Mark some text. Right click in the message body and choose Message-Reply to all quoting selected text Works well here. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 We are, each of us angels with only one wing; and we can only fly by embracing one another. ~ Luciano De Crescenzo Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Mary, On 9 Sep 2004 at 06:45:07 -0500 GMT [13:45 CEST] you wrote: MB Later, gator, perhaps? I'm using Sygate (free) right now. Just began MB with that last week. So far, so good. Only thing is that a splash MB Register now? screen comes up every time at boot. Otherwise, it's MB faithful, helpful, and unobtrusive. The solution is simple: Register. They don't want you to buy a pro version. You just need to register the free version. You can even do it as I did: Fill random combination of letters in the fields instead of your true data. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Die Toleranz ist nicht grenzenlos. Sie findet ihre Grenze, vielleicht ihre einzige Grenze, in der etwaigen Intoleranz des anderen. ~ Helmut Schmidt Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: some filters not working in v3
Thursday, September 9, 2004, 8:03:53 AM, you wrote: I had 2 that weren't working ... after messing around them for 2 days, I discovered that the folder they were being filtered to didn't exist any more .. doh. TGM The folders do exist. About half my filters do not work. TGM Unfortunately two of these filters are the most used. :-( I always seems that the ones you need most are the biggest pain. However, I see in a later post you did get it working :-) I may get to like the NFS once I've been using it a while, but I'm finding it's taking me longer to find the glitches when it doesn't work at the moment. Apparently my learning curve has flattened out or something :-) Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP account won't send
Thursday, September 9, 2004, 4:55:33 AM, you wrote: L Checking out v3 here, and have a really peculiar problem L with my IMAP account. It won't send mail about 3 out of L 5 sends, and when it fails, it doesn't even try .. that L is, I hit the send button, and it just sits there. It L doesn't even try. The account log doesn't show a send L effort, either. L The server is Dovecot, if that's any use at all ... and it L looks like mail comes in fine. MW Are you using a local or remote Sent Mail folder? Good question ... the sent folder has a little white rectangle on it ... ? On the properties page, the folder directory is default And it seems to have quit sending at all; it hasn't sent anything now since I posted the question, though I've tried several times. tia .. Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V3 Questions
On Thu 9-Sep-04 4:29am -0400, Michael Wagner wrote: What is your opinion? What features are woth the upgrade? Its the new help file ;-) Seriously, once the bugs are worked out, the new filter system is certainly worth the upgrade. If you're not in any hurry, I suggest you wait for those NFS bugs to be fixed AND the v3 help file to be created - but don't miss out on the 50% discount. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:34:12 +0200 (12:34 PM EDT here) Andre Wichartz wrote: What doesn't work? Try it: Look at a message in the preview pane not in it's own window. Mark some text. Right click in the message body and choose Message-Reply to all quoting selected text Works well here. Well. Arms folded and pausing a la Jack Benny. When you put it that way, yes it does work. If the truth were told, it works the same way in the message's own (View Folder) window. Thanks for taking the time to lead me through it by the nose. Dan Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
On Thu 9-Sep-04 10:52am -0400, WL wrote: Hello, all. I've sent some bug reports, as well as requests for information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the Help - feedback email). I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? I just checked my Sent Mail folder. I sent my last request to info-enu on 5-Sep-04 at around 4pm and an excellent response was received at around 1am the next day. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
Hello Bill, I had a problem with thebat crashing about 5 times a day. I sent in a request and they responded right away with an updated version, 3.0.0.0.8, which still did not fix the problem completely, although the frequency is much less, maybe once a day now. I have sent many other requests for service and have yet to receive a response. I guess with the release of v3 that are very busy so I will just wait and hope they respond. My biggest problem is I have paid for the software and have not received the serial/registration number yet, so since I love theBat, and don't want the trial to expire, I am a little worried that it will expire and I will not have my registration number in time and lose all my configuration and saved e-mail. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe -- Thursday, September 9, 2004, 2:51:33 PM, you wrote: On Thu 9-Sep-04 10:52am -0400, WL wrote: Hello, all. I've sent some bug reports, as well as requests for information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the Help - feedback email). I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? I just checked my Sent Mail folder. I sent my last request to info-enu on 5-Sep-04 at around 4pm and an excellent response was received at around 1am the next day. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello, I am having a problem using the junk controls. I have the bayeslt plugin installed. If I set the threshold to 99 all e-mail comes in OK as NOT junk. If I set it to 98 most all e-mail comes in as junk except the ones I has set in the white list. Also, even if I manually set the email to NOT Junk it still is considered junk unless I set the threshold to 99. What am I doing wrong. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Invalid
Hello, Some times when viewing an email, I get an error from the bat that says TheBat exception, email contains invalid html, please send this the bat developers. Any idea what is causing this? I have sent this info to the bat developers, however, I have never received a response from them so I am trying the list. thanks... Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Invalid
Hi Joe Hello, Some times when viewing an email, I get an error from the bat that says TheBat exception, email contains invalid html, please send this the bat developers. Any idea what is causing this? I have sent this info to the bat developers, however, I have never received a response from them so I am trying the list. thanks... this is an bug that is desperately hunted by the developers and one of the ones that are discussed a lot on TBBETA so you can be sure they know about it... Thomas -- pgpDxd55yk3aH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Pick email-addresses oddity
On the Pick email-addresseses window, where I expect to see left and right arrows for moving addresses into the TO, CC and BCC display areas, I am seeing some strange buttons. Going down they read 4, 44, 3, 33, r and s respectively. Am I alone in seeing these labels? What could be the problem? I am running TB 3.0. -- Best regards, Lawrence Johnson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pick email-addresses oddity
Hello Lawrence, I see them also... I sent a bug request in. Have not received an answer yet. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe -- Thursday, September 9, 2004, 3:43:44 PM, you wrote: On the Pick email-addresseses window, where I expect to see left and right arrows for moving addresses into the TO, CC and BCC display areas, I am seeing some strange buttons. Going down they read 4, 44, 3, 33, r and s respectively. Am I alone in seeing these labels? What could be the problem? I am running TB 3.0. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat
Hi Costas, on Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:14:33 +0300GMT, you wrote: CP Is there a way to incorporate a GnuPG Key Manager, for example CP GPGKeys, in The Bat? CP Apparently there are options only for PGP, covering practically all CP versions up to version 8, but nothing similar for GnuPG. I find TB!'s implemented support of GnuPG quite sufficient. I have GPGShell installed here, but I rarely use it. -- Cheers Peter Up is, by definition, the direction which broadens horizons. A. Cygni Winamp currently playing: Groucho Marx - Everyone Says I Love Youpowered by The BAT! 3.0.0.10, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpd1QhezD6aH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:05:47 GMT, Peter Meyns wrote: I find TB!'s implemented support of GnuPG quite sufficient. I have GPGShell installed here, but I rarely use it. Peter, do you have just one signing key? It's been quite a while since I tried to use GPG from within TB!, but I couldn't get it to work at all. -- JN Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
WL @ 2004-Sep-9 11:52:17 AM ritlab feedback email: does it work? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? Although this feature is in The Bat!, the prefered way to submit bugs is via the web tracking system at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 In a Nonsmoking Area: If we see smoking we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. pgpANe61NcqoQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
Dear Chris, @9-Sep-2004, 16:29 -0400 (09-Sep 21:29 UK time) Chris [C] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to WL: I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? C Although this feature is in The Bat!, the prefered way to submit bugs C is via the web tracking system at C http://www.ritlabs.com/bt Let us reword that slightly. The *only* way to submit bugs now is by using the BT system. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.0.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpEKPxw8AT7X.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Re: Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello, Additional info. Here is my log and advanced.ini. Why does it always say Value for TheBat = 99 or 1. It seems to always be 1 or 99, never in between. working thread priority=2 onexit thread priority=3 selective download spam threshold=10 export selective download=1 simple digits spam marks=1 no spaces spam marks=1 limit size to hash=19 limit size to hash header=96 temporary dictionary=c:\\temp use expiration=0 age to expirate=100 learn from zero=1 max size of log file=131072 recalculating strategy=3 regarding threshold=1.5 use autotrain=1 use degeneration=1 number of exclamations=5 log current process=1 log global state=1 log grades=1 filter is logged=1 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.01 Ladies: 0.01 cfm?orderIDOnly: 0.01 Instructions: 0.0115987 tiptopshoes: 0.01 Visa: 0.01 Same: 0.01 Priority: 0.01 7.5: 0.01 USPS: 0.01 Bill: 0.01 Leather: 0.01 Quantity: 0.0129618 billed: 0.01 Munro: 0.01 : --- 09.09.2004 15:13:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1.23454e-042 Spam-grade: 1.23454e-042 Value for The Bat!: 1 Used enhanced evaluation with number of tokens: 23 : --- H Shoes: 0.01 Leather: 0.01 Munro: 0.01 0939: 0.01 1-800-WALKING: 0.01 712: 0.01 10023: 0.01 Priority: 0.01 Ladies: 0.01 72nd: 0.01 Bill: 0.01 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.01 H Tip: 0.01 7.5: 0.01 4960: 0.01 Same: 0.01 Shoes: 0.01 TipTopShoes: 0.01 USPS: 0.01 Visa: 0.01 billed: 0.01 ending: 0.01 is: 0.99 : --- 09.09.2004 15:23:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1.05155e-010 Spam-grade: 1.05155e-010 Value for The Bat!: 1 Used enhanced evaluation with number of tokens: 27 : --- NOW: 0.99 #0066cc: 0.01 Favorite: 0.99 598: 0.01 Cheer: 0.99 3869: 0.01 akamai: 0.01 10%!: 0.01 6h: 0.01 Need: 0.99 a80.g: 0.01 Same: 0.01 Bouquet: 0.01 Barton: 0.01 FTD: 0.01 available!: 0.99 bottom: 0.99 bouquet: 0.01 discount6: 0.01 epl?product_id: 0.01 font: 0.99 ftd: 0.01 is: 0.99 myaccount: 0.01 product: 0.99 retail: 0.99 week: 0.99 : --- 09.09.2004 15:24:04 Beginning the loading process of training information. 09.09.2004 15:24:04 Recalculating bases from here: 09.09.2004 15:24:04 C:\TheBatMail\bayesit\base\spamdict.bye 09.09.2004 15:24:04 C:\TheBatMail\bayesit\base\nspamdict.bye 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Spam frequency dictionary: 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Size: 1522 letters. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Capacity: 61280 words. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Non-spam frequency dictionary: 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Size: 789 letters. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Capacity: 24135 words. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Training information successfully read. 09.09.2004 15:28:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:38:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 5.88687e-026 Spam-grade: 5.88687e-026 Value for The Bat!: 1 : --- USPS: 0.01 Quantity: 0.0129702 Same: 0.01 Description: 0.0129702 UPS: 0.0145952 Ground: 0.0153582 ct: 0.99 Priority: 0.01 billed: 0.01 6.00: 0.01 AVS: 0.0115795 Adidas: 0.01 Bill: 0.01 Instructions: 0.0116045 digits: 0.01 : --- 09.09.2004 15:38:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:38:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:43:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 Value for The Bat!: 99 Used enhanced evaluation with number of tokens: 44 : --- H ftdi: 0.01 $5: 0.99 $5!: 0.99 H Messaging: 0.99 6h: 0.01 Bouquet: 0.01 br: 0.99 Enter: 0.99 135: 0.99 Charge: 0.99 H Confirmation: 0.99 FTD: 0.01 350: 0.99 Bouquet!: 0.01 500px: 0.01 SUNexternal: 0.01 Save: 0.99 Sunburst: 0.01 VISA: 0.01 a80.g: 0.01 akamai: 0.01 bouquet: 0.01 br: 0.99 catalog: 0.01 conf: 0.99 contest: 0.99 custserv: 0.01 dollars: 0.99 font: 0.99 ftd: 0.01 is: 0.99 noshade: 0.99 person: 0.99 place: 0.99 plus: 0.99 product: 0.99 products: 0.99 safe: 0.99 scanned: 0.99 tr: 0.99 true: 0.99 win: 0.99 win!: 0.99 : 0.99 : --- 09.09.2004 15:43:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:48:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 Value for The Bat!: 99 : --- Lev: 0.99 Proxac: 0.99 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.99 more?: 0.99 H Fri: 0.99 0rderdrugs: 0.989843 129: 0.99 3: 0.952049 3O: 0.99 ?jpeg: 0.99 H Miss: 0.99 l39: 0.99 69: 0.99 tra: 0.99 size: 0.0218509 : --- 09.09.2004 15:48:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 Value for The Bat!: 99 : --- Proxac: 0.99 size: 0.0218509 H Fri: 0.99 l39: 0.99 H Ms: 0.99 0rderdrugs: 0.989843 129: 0.99 3: 0.952049 3O: 0.99 ?jpeg: 0.99 H re: 0.956744 more?: 0.99 69: 0.99 tra: 0.99 Lev: 0.99 :
Re: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
Hello WL, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 5:52:17 PM, you wrote: I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? No, since 1.6x. -- Best regards, daRkSidEmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Invalid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Thu, 9 Sep 2004, at 15:08:27 -0400, @ @ when Joe wrote: Some times when viewing an email, I get an error from the bat that says TheBat exception, email contains invalid html, please send this the bat developers. Any idea what is causing this? I have sent this info to the bat developers, however, I have never received a response from them so I am trying the list. thanks... It's been happening to me each time when would receive a UTF-8 message created in Doubtlook Distress. I didn't count that this TB error message was meant seriously, as to sending it to the developers. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 8 day(s) since v3.0 has been unleashed] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQMJ19q62QPd3XuIRApXqAJ9RPrKaOkX2GFeraDWt9rPd04UF/QCdGHOL 1DX8Qs21XHkJCEWMyJODLqY= =Bk6T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Thu, 9 Sep 2004, at 15:26:08 -0400, @ @ when Joe wrote: My biggest problem is I have paid for the software and have not received the serial/registration number yet, so since I love theBat, and don't want the trial to expire, I am a little worried that it will expire and I will not have my registration number in time and lose all my configuration and saved e-mail. You'll not lose anything of it. Just backup your Mail (and perhaps TB) folder (with all subfolders there). In the Mail folder are also all account(s) settings, and the entire mail base(s). - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 8 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQMTu9q62QPd3XuIRAm0QAJ97CwwLuK4sY2N0bpGE1UFP4m0pqwCffHH1 AvLm7uPzG7DXJ9LmRRf0nT0= =Lii1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Pick email-addresses oddity
Hello Joe, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 10:05:51 PM, you wrote: J Hello Lawrence, J I see them also... I sent a bug request in. Have not received an J answer yet. Still there in 3.0.0.11. Meanwhile you can switch language... :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.0.11 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
registration code
Thursday, September 9, 2004, 5:52:17 PM, you wrote: I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? No, since 1.6x. Ok, So if the e-mail addresses from the help menu are not valid anymore, where do we send requests for help or information. I have not received my registration number yet and I purchased thebat three days ago. No one is responding to the e-mail addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I am a little worried that I will never receive it. Any one got any ideas how I can get in touch with someone at TheBat that can help? Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello Joe, On 9 Sep 2004 at 15:05:50 -0400 GMT [21:05 CEST] you wrote: J I am having a problem using the junk controls. I have the bayeslt J plugin installed. If I set the threshold to 99 all e-mail comes in OK J as NOT junk. If I set it to 98 most all e-mail comes in as junk J except the ones I has set in the white list. Also, even if I J manually set the email to NOT Junk it still is considered junk J unless I set the threshold to 99. What am I doing wrong. 99 is the highest score bayesit gives to spam. Have you trained it with spam and non-spam mail? -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Wir würden vor dem Glühwürmchen ebenso ehrfürchtig stehen wie vor der Sonne, wenn wir nicht an unsere Vorstellungen von Gewicht und Maß so gebunden wären. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V3 Questions
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, 3:07:24 PM, Roelof wrote in message to Michael Wagner: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MW And a second thing: I need to use TB! via Wine on a Linux Notebook. MW Has anybody installed V3 in a wine emvironment? R Dunno. Can you install msi installation files on Wine? TB! works fine under CrossOver Office, which is an implementation of WINE. I don'ty know if WINE only recognises .exe files as does COO, sso the .msi installer wouldn't work. The answer I found was to install an earlier version of TB! (2.12) under COO which uses the .exe file instead, and install the v3 onto a Windows PC and then copy across thebat.exe and the two .dll files that are in the TB! Program directory into the TB! directory under COO. It's a bit faffy, but it does get around the .msi installer problem. HTH :) -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux user #345132 Flying high with The Bat! v3.0 on Xandros Desktop Deluxe v2.0 Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: Re: Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello Zeynel, The spam score settings seems useless for BayesIt, I've never seen a 75 scored message, too. Did you feed BayesIt with many of junk and non-junk mails by classifying them? How do I do that. Where is the documentation for Version 3 of TheBat using version 0.06.00 of bayesit that explains how to do this. I have a folder with thousands of real junk. How do I clear out bayesit and start it from scratch using these e-mails? Thanks Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: registration code
Hello Joe! On Thursday, September 09, 2004, 4:46 PM, you wrote: J Ok, So if the e-mail addresses from the help menu are not valid J anymore, where do we send requests for help or information. J I have not received my registration number yet and I purchased thebat J three days ago. No one is responding to the e-mail addresses J [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I am a little worried that I will never receive J it. Any one got any ideas how I can get in touch with someone at J TheBat that can help? http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/contacts.php Here's a copy-and-paste from the URL above: Questions about Orders and Missing Keys If you've ordered our product but didn't receive the registration key yet, or lost your registration key, please contact the dealer where you've ordered our product. If you are not sure which dealer to contact, look to your order notification message: If you've got an order notification email from cifnet.com or you've ordered the product in the U.S., please contact CIFNET, Inc. If you've got an order notification email from element5.com, or you've ordered the product in Europe via the Buy link at our website, please contact element5 AG If you've got an order notification email from softkey.ru or or you've ordered the product in Russia, please contact SoftKey. If you didn't get an order notification email or got the notification from somewhere else, please write a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get your lost or missing registration key. Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v3.0 filter failure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Tue, 7 Sep 2004, at 19:49:10 +0200, @ @ when MAU wrote: If you are lucky you'll try firstly esc, before you close the box using X, instead OK. As seen in TBBeta, Esc is not really equivalent to Cancel. It may work some times and sometimes not, Oh, even better. Thanks for the warning. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 8 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQNKk9q62QPd3XuIRAsXJAJ9Q94wiWzt2qiHpUUm+AnJQnQuTVgCaAtzm ECg3acC0B83MJIhLtstVPcI= =mbNq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v3.0 filter failure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Wed, 8 Sep 2004, at 02:55:05 +0200, @ @ when Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Mica, On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:14:20 +0200GMT (7-9-2004, 15:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: As far as converting OFS to NFS is concerned. Delete the NFS restart TB and it'll automatically translate the old filters to the new ones. MM I do not understand the last sentence: I'd have to delete the new MM filters in order to get old filters translated to new filters. Yes. That's because some betas already converted to the NFS. But when you never used it, it'll probably be an unsatisfactory conversion. So the proper way to start with the NFS is to check whether you've got some (faulty) account.srb files. In case you do, you delete them. You start TB and it'll convert your OFS (account.srx) to the NFS (account.srb) Of course you shouldn't delete the .srb files when you've done some modifying on the previously converted NFS. OK, it's now clear to me what you meant by deleting NFS (the conf. file, not anything else), and what relationship the OFS and NFS live in. I didn't know either what the .srb file is for (since it is not readable as the previous conf. format). ...TB becomes a bit cryptic and... occult, as I feel somehow? MM I will just lose all my filters this way! Am I reading correctly? Not quite. Only your new filters. OK, the new filters in NFS. Now clear all. Thanks. (-: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 9 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQNU89q62QPd3XuIRAuI8AJ94m9YBwDZXETtm2zOlOosUCmQSIwCeLqrG iefgkjIPHURAsnV5+f2nBAE= =EOa4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version3 ?!/Foxmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 13:56:54 -0700, @ @ when Lynn wrote: Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:44:15 AM, you wrote: MM Deaf as a post is a good term. When they say deaf MM as a cannon, it sounds... controversially. Or contradictory? Well, when you already mentioned, yes. (-: It implicates this meaning as well. But I had in mind right the controversial slice of the thing. MM What is DH? ... I ask it because of upgrade. (-: Sorry .. Dear Husband :-) Ah! That. (-: He is a keeper, though I have to shout at him most of the time to be heard :-) I'm not planning to upgrade there, either :-) I'm afraid there's no upgrading with husbands and wives. Just patching. (-: Which is not that bad after all. See what M$ has made of it. This is true .. they say here, 'throwing out the baby with the bathwater' ... Yeah. Same here. MM Just adding few lines, here and there, for getting MM some relief look would be enough. Now it looks as a MM steamroller has passed over it. lol! Some nice skins, maybe, that you could use if you wanted them :-) No! Nononononono... No *skins*. Yuck! Eeeek! Phew... Just few *lines*, as when you make a button and than tweak its shadowy and alight parts, in order to get a right relief, that 3D illusion. *Only* that. Just put a glance at the bars on the top of folder and message list pane, and you'll see that. The slightly lifted edges - that! When you would put such edges on, for instance, the header panel too, you'll get completely different look. More robust, equable, even-tempered. And this sheet metal look would disappear. MM Doing what you can with what you have is also an MM interesting thing. Yes, but a little of it goes a long way :-) After all, we all the time do right this. (-: MM Happiness is most important. (-: That's probably the bottom line .. a lot of people never really get there. We are mainly accustomed and instructed to look for something there when visibility is better. (-: One night a man saw a guy in a culticoloured commodious pants crawling around, cursing quietly and looking for something under the street light. Man shortly eyed the sky and asked the guy what he is looking for, and guy said: Keys. I lost the keys of my fridge. Then the man asked again: Where did you lose them? and guy said: There, pointing at the quite dark place few meters away. Man again shortly eyed the sky and wondered: Why then you looking for them here!? The guy in a culticoloured commodious pants crawling around, cursing quietly and looking for something under the street light said nervously: I can see here *better*, you fool! Sorry if the story is trivial, but that's what we do all the time. (-: Until we learn... 'night, and be well. (-: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 9 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBQORf9q62QPd3XuIRApwhAKCTHRiHhekouvD39w6dZuZ80sH9tQCbBnF5 Mlpa4KzNCaXqXOZQ0uQg/mY= =qFI9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
On Friday, September 10, 2004 @ 12:34:12 AM, Andre Wichartz wrote: [snips] DG Doesn't work on my system. Are you using 2.12.00? Andre What doesn't work? Try it: Look at a message in the preview pane not in Andre it's own window. Mark some text. Right click in the message body and Andre choose Message-Reply to all quoting selected text Works well here. Is it possible to setup a hotkey for this to work in its own window, ie if opened from the mail-ticker? I know about F4, but can't use it as it's dedicated to a system-wide macro that I need there... I've got ALT-R setup to reply quoting only selected text in the normal window, but what about if the message is open from the mail-ticker? (Yes, I hunted through the 'Edit Shortcut keys', but couldn't find the relevant setup.) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The two hemispheres of a dolphin's brain work independently. For 8 hours, the entire brain is awake. The left side then sleeps for 8 hours. When it wakes up, the right side sleeps for 8 hours. Thus the dolphin gets 8 hours of sleep without ever having to stop physically. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
Mic Cullen @ 2004-Sep-9 10:10:36 PM quoting only selected text mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got ALT-R setup to reply quoting only selected text in the normal window, but what about if the message is open from the mail-ticker? (Yes, I hunted through the 'Edit Shortcut keys', but couldn't find the relevant setup.) I tired changing the shortcut key in Edit Shortcut keys. There shortcut was noted as changed in that dialog, however, it did not work and the specials menu still listed F4. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 A day without sunshine is like, night. pgptvFpWpoq3P.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
On Friday, September 10, 2004 @ 11:20:20 AM, Chris wrote: [snips] I've got ALT-R setup to reply quoting only selected text in the normal window, but what about if the message is open from the mail-ticker? (Yes, I hunted through the 'Edit Shortcut keys', but couldn't find the relevant setup.) Chris I tired changing the shortcut key in Edit Shortcut keys. There Chris shortcut was noted as changed in that dialog, however, it did not work Chris and the specials menu still listed F4. Me too. One of the problems is that it's not always clear as to which menu/window/section the particular shortcut refers to. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Depressed since he could not find a job, 42-year-old Romolo Ribolla sat in his kitchen near Pisa, Italy, with a gun in his hand threatening to kill himself in 1981. His wife pleaded for him not to do it, and after about an hour he burst into tears and threw the gun to the floor. It went off and killed his wife. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem about the SSL authentication
The pop3 server needs an SSL authentication, but TheBat! said, 2004-9-10, 12:03:21: FETCH - The server uses TLS protocol version 3.0 which is outdated and insecure (version 3.1 is required) How can I resolve this problem? Does that mean I can't get letters from that TLS protocol version 3.0 server? It happens in Version 3.0pro and 2.12 also. (WindowsXP Environment) THANKS in advance. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version3 ?!/Foxmail
Thursday, September 9, 2004, 4:16:48 PM, you wrote: MM No! Nononononono... No *skins*. Yuck! Eeeek! Phew... MM Just few *lines*, as when you make a button and than MM tweak its shadowy and alight parts, in order to get MM a right relief, that 3D illusion. *Only* that. lol! OK, no skins :-) I don't care, actually, as long as they are optional - but when something fundamental isn't working, that is annoying, and I'm really hoping that I can find fixes for this IMAP stuff, because I'm kind of afraid it's eating my mail. It looks like I'm going to have to decide either to go back to v2X, or register v3 and hope the next release fixes the issues and isn't too far down the road. And just when the filters are all working, too :-( Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
