Re[3]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability

[Jeff Gaines]

Hello Group

On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 2:17:29 PM,  wrote:

> Hello Steven,

> Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 8:56:57 AM, you wrote:

>> admin,

>>   I also use TB (v2) on a multi-monitor (3) configuration.
>  Do you have a physical 3 screens or virtual ?
>  I tried on 2 physical screens, works fine. Since application have no
> idea that there are more than 1 screen.

>>   And since I use TB2, I doubt it will ever be fixed because
>>   I get a strong impression that v2 has been abandoned.  RIT
>>   wants us to pay for v3 to get features we neither need nor
>>   want in order to get bug fixes to v2 that haven't even been
>>   implemented.

> "Welcome to the real world" (c) A black guy with a blue pills from
> a place that calls Matrix.


I wonder if the key may be whether you use the multi monitors as one
big screen (stretched mode in Matrox speak) or run them independently?

I often have problems when old style help dialogs appear on the
secondary monitor in that the dialog has a caption asking me to select
something but the body is empty.

My Parhelia is having a break at the Matrox hospital in Ireland at the
moment, I'll do some experiments when (?if) it comes back.

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Re: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me

[Gerard]

Hai Mica,

ON Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 2:44:35 PM, you wrote:
MM> There was something similar, in effect. A User would receive a mail,
MM> plain text, where s/he would be advised like this: "Your machine is
MM> infected by a dangerous virus 'blahblah'. Delete as soon as possible
MM> your file 'user.dat' and 'win.ini' and immediately reboot your machine."

There is no defense against stupidity. :headbanger:

MM> Though, it was not in header field.

My  point  exactly,  although one could discuss what constitutes a virus and
create one ofr headers. But this is probably best done in TB OT :-0

>> It is wise to install a good firewal before you sit back and be
>> *cool*, and One with Universe ;-)

MM> No one can be One with Universe having no a good firewall installed.
MM> Just as a woman will not throw away her mirror or as a man always wears
MM> his sword, a User always have to have a good firewall up and running.

It is good to be in agreement.

MM> A lonely samurai drifting around without his katana, carrying only a
MM> doggy under armpit, that's a User drifting around World Wide Waiting
MM> without a good firewall up and running, carrying only the feeling s/he
MM> is safe under armpit.

Although  I  have  been  doing  some  Kendo I am a golfing man myself. That
provides enough live lessons in 18 holes :-/

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Re: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me

[Mica Mijatovic]

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   @  @  at 15:37:24 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

> Hello Mica,

> Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 2:44:35 PM, you wrote:

>> No one can be One with Universe having no a good firewall installed.

> What about those that don't own a computer?

Please concentrate. Don't allow your attention buzzing around and
leaving holes for a trout attack. We are here dealing with Teaching
related to a TB user, therefore a computer owner/user.

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Save decrypted PGP messages?

[Jack]

Hi all,

I'd like to save the decrypted PGP messages because I don't need
secure storage and I would like to search the messages.
TB promised this feature in an email in the 2.x time.
I haven't checked out 3.0 but can anyone tell me if 3.0 has
this feature? It was in 1.x versions, and taken out in 2.x.
I would upgrade just because of this feature, because most of my
emails are PGPed and it's so annoying to decrypt before viewing
any of them. At least, make it an option.

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Re: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me

[Mary Bull]

Hello Alexander!

On Wednesday, October 06, 2004, 8:37 AM, you wrote:

MM>> No one can be One with Universe having no a good firewall installed.

ASK> What about those that don't own a computer?

Or a brick fireplace! LOL

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Re: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Mica,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 2:44:35 PM, you wrote:

> No one can be One with Universe having no a good firewall installed.

What about those that don't own a computer?

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Re: Moving to original message

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Richard,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 10:01:53 AM, you wrote:

> Is there a quick way of moving to the original message and back please?

I'd say it depends on "where" - in a mailing list folder you'll mostly
have threaded messages, anyway, but in your personal inbox its
difficult.

[the "follow previous" and "follow next" entries in the "Navigation"
menu of the message viewer would ideally follow the related messages
(regarding in-reply-to and references header) account-wide, but that
is not the case]

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Re: How to create a list of messages for printing?

[Dan Grunberg]

Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:40:19 +0400 (7:40 AM EDT here) Julia V. Antipina wrote:

> Hello! Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and
> I have to somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC,
> DATE) and then print it.  Printing out of messages themselves is NOT
> required. Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;) Is there
> any plugins or standard features that can help me?

Create an Inbox filter that looks for all incoming messages. Have the
filter do nothing but add a line to an external text file with the
fields you need.

The Bat! => Account => Sorting Office/Filter

  Incoming Mail  [New]

StringsLocation   Presence
===   
@  KludgesYes

  Actions tab: pull down about 2/3 of way

[x] Export message to file

[  ]

  Click rightmost button to open the template for the export.

  Cut and paste all between and including %FROMNAME and fifth
  (last) %- into the template. (Experiment and adjust the
  spaces and/or the blank line before the last %- as
  necessary.) 

%FROMNAME %-
%FROMADDR %-
%TONAME   %-
%TOADDR   %-
%SUBJ%-
%ODATESHORT

%-

Good luck.


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Re[2]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability

[Ivan Latysh]

Hello Steven,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 8:56:57 AM, you wrote:

> admin,

>   I also use TB (v2) on a multi-monitor (3) configuration.
 Do you have a physical 3 screens or virtual ?
 I tried on 2 physical screens, works fine. Since application have no
idea that there are more than 1 screen.

>   And since I use TB2, I doubt it will ever be fixed because
>   I get a strong impression that v2 has been abandoned.  RIT
>   wants us to pay for v3 to get features we neither need nor
>   want in order to get bug fixes to v2 that haven't even been
>   implemented.

"Welcome to the real world" (c) A black guy with a blue pills from
a place that calls Matrix.

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Re: Moving to original message

[Nick Dutton]

Hello Richard,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 9:01:53 AM, you wrote:
RW> Is there a quick way of moving to the original message and back please?

If the original message is still in the same folder then I just
-click on the subject to filter.  It's a kind of simple thread
view.


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Re: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability

[Steven P Valliere]

admin,

  I also use TB (v2) on a multi-monitor (3) configuration.
  The problem occurs on screens configured to be physically
  to the LEFT of the primary monitor.  As a software
  developer myself, I am reasonably certain that the program
  is not coded to do the math necessary for handling the
  sizing operation correctly when the coordinates are less
  than zero.  The top left pixel on the primary monitor is
  at (0,0), if your second monitor is to the left of the
  primary and set to 1024x768 resolution, its top left pixel
  would then be at (-1024,0).  Then you resize in TB, it
  sees values less than zero, even though the difference,
  correctly computed would be GREATER than zero.  A typical
  defense against drawing things backwards (due to negative
  lengths) is to force such values to zero.

  When I wish to resize columns, I must remember to move TB
  to the primary monitor (or my right-hand screen).  Sizing
  on the left-hand screen is broken.

  And since I use TB2, I doubt it will ever be fixed because
  I get a strong impression that v2 has been abandoned.  RIT
  wants us to pay for v3 to get features we neither need nor
  want in order to get bug fixes to v2 that haven't even been
  implemented.

  Sigh.

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Re: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me

[Mica Mijatovic]

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 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Wed, 6 Oct 2004,
   @  @  at 10:16:17 +0200, when Gerard wrote to WilWilWil:

W>> I'm a little paranoid today with all those viruses and spy wares and
W>> other pollution.

> As for viruses and spy ware, I do not know any that use headers to move
> along.

There was something similar, in effect. A User would receive a mail,
plain text, where s/he would be advised like this: "Your machine is
infected by a dangerous virus 'blahblah'. Delete as soon as possible
your file 'user.dat' and 'win.ini' and immediately reboot your machine."

Though, it was not in header field. To achieve this detail too, one
should edit header and add a line about it. (Possibly using a form
%COMMENT="%COOKIE='G:\Library\cakes\zen.dat'", when TB is involved,
where the cookie file contains one or more such vir{al|ulent}
'advices'.)

> It is wise to install a good firewal before you sit back and be
> *cool*, and One with Universe ;-)

No one can be One with Universe having no a good firewall installed.
Just as a woman will not throw away her mirror or as a man always wears
his sword, a User always have to have a good firewall up and running.

A lonely samurai drifting around without his katana, carrying only a
doggy under armpit, that's a User drifting around World Wide Waiting
without a good firewall up and running, carrying only the feeling s/he
is safe under armpit.

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How to create a list of messages for printing?

[Julia V. Antipina]

Hello!
Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and I have to
somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC, DATE) and then
print it.  Printing out of messages themselves is NOT required.
Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;)
Is there any plugins or standard features that can help me?

THANK YOU!
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Re: Purge unread messages?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Lynn!

On Tuesday, October 05, 2004, 11:07 PM, you wrote:

MB>> I don't want to do this. But aren't the settings in
MB>> Folder/Properties/Keep messages in the base for ( ) days and
MB>> Folder/Properties/On exit remove old messages
MB>> the settings you are looking for?

L> Well, no, because sometimes I don't need something like
L> that for weeks, or days at least ...

L> It would be kind of nice to be able to right click on the
L> folder and just do 'delete unread messages' ... I suspect
L> the reason we don't have one is that it's really kind of
L> counter-intuitive ... it's not really obvious that someone
L> might want to dump just the *unread* messages.

Do you know how to write a feature request at Bugtracker's Wish List?

If you wrote one and posted the URL here (probably you should
cross-post to tbbeta, too) I would put a note to support it.

Once or twice in the past I dumped an entire folder by moving its
contents to Trash and then deleting the folder and emptying the Trash.
But that was in an effort to straighten out a corrupted jumpy folder
and I had already copied all the messages to the new folder I had set
up to contain them.

I keep my own archive here of absolutely everything that I download
from the mailing lists, except the tbbeta automatic acknowledgments
that my posts have been received. (Set that up long ago when I was
worried they had not been, one time.)

So, I don't need the feature. But I'd be willing to support it for
your needs.

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply

[Ludovic LE MOAL]

Hi,

On Wednesday, October 6, 2004 at 11:14:30 AM, WilWilWil wrote:

> Can you explain maybe with other words, or maybe french people on
> the list have understood and can explain me in french.


Tu ne dois conserver seulement que la partie du texte original auquel
tu fais référence. Par exemple : ma réponse. Je n'ai gardé que ce qui
permettait de bien comprendre et pas les citations du précédent auteur
ni tes citations qui étaient un peu inutiles.

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Re[3]: Purge unread messages?

[Kertesz Vilmos]

L> Well,  no,  because  sometimes I don't need something like that for
L> weeks,  or  days at least .. lol But when the traffic gets heavy on
L> some  of the lists, and it looks like being an all day project just
L> to get all the mail read once, then I sometimes have to do a triage
L> thing :-)
Select the mails, or all mails and Ctrl+M. No read, no headache

L> It would be kind of nice to be able to right click on the
L> folder and just do 'delete unread messages' ...
There is the Unread Virtual folder. Go there and delete the mails (you
want).

L> I  suspect the reason we don't have one is that it's really kind of
L> counter-intuitive  ...  it's  not really obvious that someone might
L> want to dump just the *unread* messages.
Yes. But, as always, there are solutions.

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Re: Purge unread messages?

[Chris]

Lynn @ 2004-Oct-6 12:07:16 AM
"Purge unread messages?" 

> It would be kind of nice to be able to right click on the folder and
> just do 'delete unread messages' ... I suspect the reason we don't
> have one is that it's really kind of counter-intuitive ... it's not
> really obvious that someone might want to dump just the *unread*
> messages.

You ca simulate "Delete Unread Messages" with Virtual Folders. Create
a Virtual Folder the selects only undread messages from the folder and
question. Then, select all the messages in that folder and delete
them.

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Re[2]: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2

[WilWilWil]

==Original message text===
From: Gerard 
To: "WilWilWil on tbudl" 
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 10:06:21 AM
Subject: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2



W>> PS2 : I want to use HTML mails to be convenient and in respectful
W>> with what want my correspondents, as I do with lists when I use
W>> PlainText ! ;-)

G> I was only joking. ;-)


===End of original message text===
I was joking too. ;-)

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Wilwilwil,

@6-Oct-2004, 11:14 +0200 (06-Oct 10:14 UK time) WilWilWil [W] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Leif:

... 
W>>> So simple... I thing you give me the wise way ! :-)
... 

A nice, simple response.

LG>> Please trim replies to context.
... 

Like this.

W> Can you explain maybe with other words,

See how I have replied? I cut away the bits of the old message I
didn't refer to. That's called "trimming". I kept the bits I was
talking about. That's called "context". It's better to do it that way.

Your reply template forces you to leave all the quotes in a block.
That's mostly where it goes wrong for you. You can't write the reply
like this - as a conversation. You might want to change that.

Does this help?

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2)

[WilWilWil]

==Original message text===
From: Leif Gregory 
To: WilWilWil 
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 12:22:03 AM
Subject: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2)
LG> Hello WilWilWil,

LG> Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 4:12:40 PM, you wrote:
W>> Thank you for the idea. Effectively, why not having 2 mail clients
W>> depending of what I have to do, instead of having 2 accounts with
W>> different parameters.

W>> So simple... I thing you give me the wise way ! :-)

LG> 
LG> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
LG> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
LG> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out WilWilWil.

LG>   )

LG> Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that
LG> insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and
LG> list footer remain in the quoted text.

LG> To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of
LG> private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you
LG> subscribed.

LG> Thank you.
LG> 



===End of original message text===

Hello,

I'm sorry but I don't understand what was wrong with my answer. I try to translate 
your remark with different tools, but none of them help me to understand.

Can you explain maybe with other words, or maybe french people on the list have 
understood and can explain me in french.

Sorry moderator, if I don't understand the remark, I can't cure of this misdeed. :-)

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Re: Cannot restore Backup: 30000 Mails lost! HELP!

[WilWilWil]

==Original message text===
From: Timo Boettcher 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 9:15:13 PM
Subject: Cannot restore Backup: 3 Mails lost! HELP!
TB> Hi,

TB>   Having upgraded my Windows, I had to reinstall.
TB>   Of course I backuped all my mails (33), most of them in just one
TB>   account, but when I tried to reinstall and restore my backup, TB2.12
TB>   (and 3.0, too) told me that it couldn't read the backup file. The
TB>   small accounts restored ok (if I just chose them), the big account
TB>   fails after about 30 mails.

TB>   Any idea how I can get my other mails back?

TB>  Timo


===End of original message text===
Maybe the file is corrupted.

I know Mailbag assistant can read TB mails base to manage them, but I don't know if it 
can open the .tbk of TB archive. I suppose your archive is .tbk format ?

A trial here : http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php


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Re: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Gerard,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 10:06:21 AM, you wrote:

> Then it must be your ISP who is adding them

No, its the listmailer.

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Re: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 12:27:13 AM, you wrote:
W> Gerard frightens me with finding X-Content-Filtered-By:
W> Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 in my mails headers.

W> I say I've not this header in my mails but I've found this :
W> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me but no one
W> from me...

Sorry to have scared you, but as you have by now seen for the replies it is
just the mail software used by this list.


W> I'm a little paranoid today with all those viruses and spy wares and other 
pollution.

As for viruses and spy ware, I do not know any that use headers to move
along. It is wise to install a good firewal before you sit back and be
*cool*, and One with Universe ;-)

W> What is this header ? Is it my system than creates this header or system of senders 
?

Headers, also known as Kludges in TB! speak are like the address info on
letters. Press F9 to see them above the text of your email.

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Re: Plaxo plug-in

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 9:03:50 PM, you wrote:
aacu> Please can we get The Bat! working properly first and catch up on the
aacu> huge backlog of bugs and requests that are to do with email before we
aacu> encourage more complications.

I do not see to many bugs and TB! is working very well for me. SUre there
are minor things but overall I am happy and ready o move forward.

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Re: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 12:07:55 AM, you wrote:
W> I keep all my sent e-mails in an archive folder and with a full text
W> search even in headers, I find no string = ' Mailman Mimdel'

Then it must be your ISP who is adding them. If you look at your headers as
they arrive at this list you can clearly se them. Here are a few:

X-Rogue: :wilwilwil:
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Greylisted-at: draenor.its-toasted.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Subject: Re[2]: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2
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BTW, no need to keep your mail in "archive" folders. TB! can handle large
numbers of folders and  enormous amounts of e-mail in one folder. It is one
of he reasons I like so much. Some people use an archiving system/program
for mail they do not need access to regularly but which to want to keep for
prosperity.

W> Isn't it possible that it 's your system that filter my mail an add
W> this header on my mail after you receipt it ?

Looking at the position in the mail I would say they are yours or from your
ISP. I use an "old school" ISP who believes in direct unchanged access.

W> PS : what means ISP ?

ISP =Internet Service Provider, the company that you pay for Internet
access.

W> PS2 : I want to use HTML mails to be convenient and in respectful
W> with what want my correspondents, as I do with lists when I use
W> PlainText ! ;-)

I was only joking. ;-)

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Best regards,
 Gerard 
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cause disaster. Good golfers gain control over the ball by feeling that
they are giving up control.

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Moving to original message

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello,

When reading a message I sometimes want to be able to read the original
message and it's difficult when there's no Message ID quoted. I know I
can F9 and search for it but that's a long process. I'm sure I've seen
the answer to this before but couldn't find it when I just searched the
archives.

Is there a quick way of moving to the original message and back please?

-- 
Regards,
Richard

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Re: 2nd REPOST: Problems with S/MIME

[Julian Beach (Lists)]

On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 11:36:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Unfortunately, it's increasingly looking likely that I'm the only
> one (so far) suffering from this problem. I guess it doesn't look
> too hopeful I'll be able to resolve it.  :(

No, I tried generating a self-cert certificate and it failed for the
same reason, so you are not alone.  I too am using the Pro version, so
maybe the problem is as you and Marck have suggested.

Do you want to post a bug report and post the details here so I can
support it?

Julian

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Re: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello WilWilWil,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 12:27:13 AM, you wrote:

> I say I've not this header in my mails but I've found this :
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 in headers of some mails sent to me but no
> one from me...

> What is this header ? Is it my system than creates this header or
> system of senders ?

When you're looking at the headers (of any listmail), you'll also
find one pointing to this web-address:
http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl

(its the subscribe/login page of the mailing list server)

If you scroll down, on the left side of the very bottom of the screen
you'll find an image "Delivered by Mailman" + the version info 2.1.5;
Mailman is the mailing list software.

When you send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Mailman
software picks it up and sends a copy to all persons who are
subscribed to the list. When doing so, it adds the X-Mailman-Version
header.

If the list owner (Marck Pearlstone) has configured the Mailman
software so that it (for example) does not allow attachments, or does
not allow HTML mail, Mailman will process the mail according to that
configuration and add another header, stating that it has altered the
message (for example, converted HTML to plain text, or stripped
attachments).

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