Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:59:50 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: You're experiencing other problems than I did. 0.7.3 didn't work for me and a clean install of 0.8.0 works. Don't you just love computers! I've since re-applied 0.8.0 now that I've got the dictionaries created. I was having a look at the Bayesit log file and I noticed that after every use of TheBat! I was getting: 17.02.2005 15:03:46 Current recalculation session is interrupted. When I use TheBat! to check my email I'll start the program to download the mail and if there is nothing of interest I'll junk the Spam and close the program down. Normally this doesn't take longer a minute thanks to my ADSL connection. Could this be that this isn't sufficient time for Bayesit to retrain and rewrite the dictionaries as a background operation? And, if it isn't could this be an area of the program that needs revising? After all, I can't be the only person that uses TheBat! in this way? ;-) -- Best regards Barry Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release (again) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! and wizards
Hello all, Friday, February 18, 2005, Claude Renaud wrote: In the tools menus we can find a wizards submenus, what are they exactly ? There is a download option in the wizards submenu but in the related page there is no wizards to download ? So when are they planned ? They are not prepared yet and I am not sure, if will be available in upcoming version, they must be tested in TBBETA before. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! on the fly encryption and tokens
Hello all, Friday, February 18, 2005, Claude Renaud wrote: As Marek said previously, Tb professional will replace Secure Bat! nextly. Until now I used Secure Bat! with Ikey. Apparently The Bat! pro does not support ikeys currently. development version tested in TBBETA supports iKey token already. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! and wizards
Hi Claude, On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, at 07:19:48 [GMT+0100] (which was 17:19:48 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: In the tools menus we can find a wizards submenus, what are they exactly ? Exactly where is this? Not in mu version 3.0.1.33 there isn't -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 path=look\around\on\hd;desk\drawer;under\desk;hall\closet Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! and wizards
Dear John, @18-Feb-2005, 20:37 +1100 (18-Feb 09:37 UK time) John Phillips [JP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Claude: In the tools menus we can find a wizards submenus, what are they exactly ? JP Exactly where is this? Not in mu version 3.0.1.33 there isn't Where? In the Beta. Which makes this issue off-topic for the UDL. (minor point of order). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows NT Clone 5.2.3790 ' pgp3yEmADOy8y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the bat! and the Time and Chaos software ...
Hello Darrin, A reminder of what Darrin Rich on TBUDL typed on: 17 February 2005 at 02:11:07 GMT +0100 DR Not to knock down TB, but have you tried the email software by Time DR Choas? Its called ExpressPlus and suppose to work perfectly with the DR pim software. I bought the whole TC bundle including Express Plus, it's a complete load of rubbish and is just about as basic and non functional as email software gets. The version I have is 1.0.6.9 so if later versions are any better I don't know. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 18/02/2005 at 13:07 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on :gentoo: www.gentoo.org PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamalizer
Hello Darrin, On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:42:49 -0800 GMT (18/02/2005, 05:42 +0700 GMT), Darrin Rich wrote: DR The company I host with sent me an email about spamalizer. Its a DR spam filtering service they offer now. Anyone here ever tried server DR side spam filtering before. I am using server-side spam filtering, but it will give me a list of the mails identified as spam once a day. I can still go into the website and reclassify them as not spam if I want to. That's a feature of GMX. I wouldn't trust a server-side spam filter that just deletes mails it thinks is spam. I have never used spamalizer myself. Make sure you have control, or you'll lose mails. -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Kaelte wachst gegen den Nordpol um 10 Grad, zuletzt hoert sie ganz auf. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamalizer
Hello Thomas, Friday, February 18, 2005, 5:57:02 AM, you wrote: T I am using server-side spam filtering, but it will give me a list of T the mails identified as spam once a day. I can still go into the T website and reclassify them as not spam if I want to. That's a T feature of GMX. T I wouldn't trust a server-side spam filter that just deletes mails it T thinks is spam. I have never used spamalizer myself. Make sure you T have control, or you'll lose mails. It seems like it should work well according to the link they sent me. http://www.midphase.com/pop_spamalizer.shtml -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpi89ac52J6n.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamalizer
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 06:46:02 -0800, Darrin Rich wrote: T I wouldn't trust a server-side spam filter that just deletes mails it T thinks is spam. I have never used spamalizer myself. Make sure you T have control, or you'll lose mails. DR It seems like it should work well according to the link they sent me. DR http://www.midphase.com/pop_spamalizer.shtml The only server side spam product I ever found that was any good was SpamAssassin. It tags messages it thinks are spam and then you can deal with them on the client end. -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat Voyager
I just got an email about Bat Voyager with a link the ritlabs website but there is nothing there apart from a news item saying the same as the email. Am I missing something? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Pretending to use The Bat!
Hello all, As many of you know, blaming The Bat! for spam is not an new issue. Look what I got yesterday: MDaemon has indentified your message as spam. It will not be delivered. From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 06.50/05.00] (Archive Copy) [EAME_Newsletter] Issue 57 - Thursday, February 17, 2005 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, hits=6.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_THEBAT,MDAEMON_SPAM_BLOCKER version=2.54 ** Start SpamAssassin results 6.50 points, 5 required; * 3.0 -- Message has been marked by MDaemon's Spam Blocker * 3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to be from The Bat! End of SpamAssassin results : Message contains [1] file attachments Some sysadmins are just stupid. I am NOT pretending to use The Bat!, I _am_ _using_ The Bat! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Winamp Playing: Ed Hamilton - Fly Like An Eagle (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Voyager
I just got an email about Bat Voyager with a link the ritlabs website but there is nothing there apart from a news item saying the same as the email. Am I missing something? In broken, incomplete, English too... I was quite 'ammused'. :) While I know the majority of the software company isn't primarily English, they have plenty of English speaking helpers that could have proofed it :) And no, I don't think you missed anything, I couldn't find much else about the software except what was already included in the email. Looks like they're giving out free email accounts too... interesting. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello All, Friday, February 18, 2005, 9:48:12 AM, MAU wrote: M As many of you know, blaming The Bat! for spam is not an new issue. Look M what I got yesterday: MDaemon has indentified your message as spam. It will not be delivered. From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 06.50/05.00] (Archive Copy) [EAME_Newsletter] Issue 57 - Thursday, February 17, 2005 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SNIP!] What's the rest of the header look like? I didn't see anything identifying MUA or MTA in the section you quoted. - -- * * Best regards, * Marc. * New Orleans, LA (USA) * FIDONET=1:396/45 INTELEC=239:600/70 * INTERNET: marc.lewis at sstar dot com * TELNET://sursum-corda.com * BBS, DATA FAX: 1-504-897-6006 * Message not valid without my PGP signature. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQEVAwUBQhYWVwHUq78/EfsHAQHutgf/XgQdDD/DOgPwf8nNtt8GF0jQ5poHq6OT rLuTkZX1ywkiQYQNWtM/0rLbKsbkBDVP2YQ1oB3Bd1mz3XLuX6S+u79DQHQ12vMt YgG6kP2kzsVdHlsKgAYRSn4Ka3XDMseUKGJE3gveKk9ggJP35jT1Nf38Ct3jLwxp 76gKNE+QkYtk1g7WajdlRf0sO77TKtm0ySxYG7jvI1NQpuvXVSUIyNE8tT2hzSrg 3hOSs31FVJCHkmUYAcf6pad4OpaKwJlFZm2g1GwJDMW8W7xz4jJ0kZiAjtOZo8ub /WxLp+j5+jgzXKsAeXMrvsRZbAwiYZOtecrWXZNykmatqmDBqIccIw== =zAnG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.9 - Release Date: 2/17/2005 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
Hello MAU everyone else, on 18-Feb-2005 at 16:48 you (MAU) wrote: Start SpamAssassin results 6.50 points, 5 required; * 3.0 -- Message has been marked by MDaemon's Spam Blocker * 3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to be from The Bat! End of SpamAssassin results : Message contains [1] file attachments Some sysadmins are just stupid. I am NOT pretending to use The Bat!, I _am_ _using_ The Bat! Interesting. This SpamAssassin must really be badly maintained. I sent a support inquiry to my provider yesterday because I get this in my mails as well, to be precise the very same FORGED_MUA_THEBAT_CS I told them that TheBat is not a forged MUA, but I have little hope that it will actually change anything, this topic has been brought up often enough and nothing has changed ever since. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Sundown (Ionizer Remix) by The Overlords from the 1996 album 'Infinite Excursions' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
MAU @ 2005-Feb-18 10:48:12 AM Pretending to use The Bat! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As many of you know, blaming The Bat! for spam is not an new issue. Look what I got yesterday: SNIP Start SpamAssassin results 6.50 points, 5 required; * 3.0 -- Message has been marked by MDaemon's Spam Blocker * 3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to be from The Bat! End of SpamAssassin results : Message contains [1] file attachments Some sysadmins are just stupid. I am NOT pretending to use The Bat!, I _am_ _using_ The Bat! Because of its macros and templateing system, The Bat! has been considered a spam tool by some anti-spam companies. You can turn off the X-Mailer header. Options - Preferences = General - UNCHECK Use X-Mailer header in messages -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. How do I set my laser printer on stun? pgp9mhybJOtSu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
Hello Marc, What's the rest of the header look like? I didn't see anything identifying MUA or MTA in the section you quoted. What I quoted is the error message I received, not the headers. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Winamp Playing: Vernon Neilly and G-Fire - LFO. (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
Hello Alexander, I told them that TheBat is not a forged MUA, but I have little hope that it will actually change anything, this topic has been brought up often enough and nothing has changed ever since. Yes, it is a difficult battle. What I did was to let the recipients know that their sysadmin or postmaster is blocking the newsletter they have subscribed to because they want to receive it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Winamp Playing: Vernon Neilly and G-Fire - LFO. (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
Hello Chris, You can turn off the X-Mailer header. Options - Preferences = General - UNCHECK Use X-Mailer header in messages Yes, I know. But I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!. I _am_ proud of using TB. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Winamp Playing: Hall and Oates - I'll Be Around (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
Hello Chris everyone else, on 18-Feb-2005 at 17:59 you (Chris) wrote: Because of its macros and templateing system, The Bat! has been considered a spam tool by some anti-spam companies. AFAIK there once was a bulk email software that would create fake X-Mailer headers. But, in that software one could also select Outlook Express as mailer, and no one filters mails from that mailer. :-) The term forged MUA indicates that the guys who made this antispam solution simply don't know their stuff (or don't care), because TB is not forged, but a genuine program. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Egotist: a person more interested in himself than in me. -- Ambrose Bierce Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
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Hash: SHA1
***^\ ._)~~
~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 18 Feb 2005,
@ @ at 18:21:49 +0100, when MAU wrote:
I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!. I _am_ proud
of using TB.
We have even TB flag(s). (-:
So we can evoke them using :xxx: form of smiley codes as a part of
comment line in header part of a message, and to corroborate our
statement by picture, which talks more than 10.000 words.
Something like this:
%COMMENT=This is The Bat!, (wo)man. :tbflag: Accept this fact, leave
this message alone (virgo intacta) and live in peace.
But I doubt that anyone could talk effectively with an administrator, or
even anti-spam *company*, wh{o|ich} filters spam by *MUA*. (-;
- --
Mica
PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast
:eyes:
[Earth LOG: 170 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing]
OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium
with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1
with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector
via Wine...
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Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Turn Outbox Bold if Saving Draft
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 17 Feb 2005, @ @ at 21:43:32 +0100, when Milan Gurjanov wrote: Hello, Mico! Thursday, February 17, 2005. 21:40:09 Ah, who would say! My name in a proper case in greeting, vocative, in an English speaking group. That's something. (-: On day Thursday, February 17, 2005 you wrote: Indeed. I think I got it. Having just a beautiful secretary is not enough. We need clear and visible indications. (-: The funniest man on this mailing list. (((: I just love to read your mails. Thanks. (: I am glad you are happy. Although I *have* pretty good concurrents. Pozdrav! (Oni ASCII mis i macka su odlicni.) I'll translate this for others, since I have an answer/comment. You said above: Greetings! (Those ASCII mouse and cat are excellent.) and I say: This what you see as a cat should be actually a piglet. (: At least it was intention of an ASCII artist. Was that a fine job, or even better one, let the eyes of be(er)holder(s) to apprise. (-: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :banana: [Earth LOG: 170 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCFi3l9q62QPd3XuIRAtLSAJ96YYTwWmfh6v3KjWuaDp+yp3NBwgCggSan qda7iiE9KA6vr92GFX57GSE= =0W3a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
Hi MAU, on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:21:49 +0100GMT, you wrote: You can turn off the X-Mailer header. Options - Preferences = General - UNCHECK Use X-Mailer header in messages M Yes, I know. But I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!. You shouldn't. M I _am_ proud of using TB. Why not. :-) You might direct them to http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html, if you think they /might/ listen... -- Cheers Peter Progasm, n,: The feeling you get when your code works the first time Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject)
Hey All, I've got a little problem... Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes up my sig delimter so that it's only -- instead of --space. Any way to fix that? -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
gnupg 1.4.1rc2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, TWIMC begin quote We are pleased to announce the availability of a the second release candidate for the forthcoming 1.4.1 version of GnuPG: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/alpha/gnupg/gnupg-1.4.1rc2.tar.bz2 (2.7M) ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/alpha/gnupg/gnupg-1.4.1rc2.tar.bz2.sig ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/alpha/gnupg/gnupg-1.4.1rc1-1.4.1rc2.diff.bz2 (338K) An installer for Windows is also available: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/alpha/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.1rc2.exe (1.4M) ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/alpha/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.1rc2.exe.sig SHA-1 checksums for the above files are: cfa9d6f4c7a0aa5b58df75e3b5480a8ccf223dea gnupg-1.4.1rc2.tar.bz2 21d4c2ef378e89b87123dc97c90989e8f1e09783 gnupg-1.4.1rc1-1.4.1rc2.diff.bz2 99f3bd0165cbfcbc2b562b42a3e0be64cec09b85 gnupg-w32cli-1.4.1rc2.exe /end quote - -- Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.1.33nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey available at http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x12069B93DBE6E678 Gossamer Spider Web of Trust GSWoT http://www.gswot.org/ A Progressive and Innovative Web of Trust -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1rc2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.956 iD8DBQFCFj4XEgabk9vm5ngRAodPAKDixg1mhUh4wfXRfhzJUh/66hVbWACfbDjS dd99gSTseglJPYpfxnNGDNc= =G9n0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:54:20 -0500GMT, you wrote: DC I've got a little problem... Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes DC up my sig delimter so that it's only -- instead of --space. Any DC way to fix that? Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message. - -- Cheers Peter The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.30 Comment: My key: https://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0xE10774CE Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org iD8DBQFCFj6FAzZSBuEHdM4RAsblAKC8Fry+CRtrSMms+hKuDjnWa3HDngCg1pJh ehGtDDr78FOpNGqJPCq38zI= =CdbI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject) Re: TB GnuPG
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 20:14:40 +0100, Peter Meyns wrote: PM Hi David, PM on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:54:20 -0500GMT, you wrote: DC I've got a little problem... Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes DC up my sig delimter so that it's only -- instead of --space. Any DC way to fix that? PM Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own PM implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own PM implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use PM GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message. Hrm... Would PGP V8 be any better for that? I wouldn't object to buying it if I had to. -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:14:40 +0100GMT (18-2-2005, 20:14 +0100, where I live), Peter Meyns wrote: PM on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:54:20 -0500GMT, you wrote: DC I've got a little problem... Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes DC up my sig delimter so that it's only -- instead of --space. Any DC way to fix that? PM Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own PM implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own PM implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use PM GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message. I am using gnupg 1.4.1rc2 and I can use other UID's than the first on my keyring to sign messages without using gpgshell. - -- Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.1.33nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey available at http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x12069B93DBE6E678 Gossamer Spider Web of Trust GSWoT http://www.gswot.org/ A Progressive and Innovative Web of Trust -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1rc2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.956 iD8DBQFCFkcQEgabk9vm5ngRAufqAJ9KWfitmlscF2moIyGJzJM/TifoxwCfc4kL 8Y2/CSqKvhSki0+RdHSvWG8= =F66U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject) Re: TB GnuPG
Hi David, on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:31:58 -0500GMT, you wrote: DC I've got a little problem... Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes DC up my sig delimter so that it's only -- instead of --space. Any DC way to fix that? PM Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own PM implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own PM implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use PM GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message. DC Hrm... Would PGP V8 be any better for that? I wouldn't object to DC buying it if I had to. I don't know about v 8.x. I only have the 6.5.8ckt version for PGPDisk. I can use it for signing anyway, so I'll try. Let's see how it behaves regarding the sig delimiter. -- Cheers Peter 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? pgp4KsRYtcRsx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bat Voyager
I just got an email about Bat Voyager with a link the ritlabs website but there is nothing there apart from ... ... Am I missing something? JA I don't think you missed anything, I couldn't find much else about JA the software except what was already included in the email. JA Looks like they're giving out free email accounts too... interesting. Not the first time I did not receive an announcement email from RitLabs. I must have got yours then - I got it twice! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject) Re: TB GnuPG
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 18-Feb-2005 at 20:47 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: Let's see how it behaves regarding the sig delimiter. Much better if you ask me, because its PGP/MIME instead of inline signing, and the sig delimiter is also totally normal. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, Where the heck is the ceiling?! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject) Re:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 20:50:31 +0100, Henk de Bruijn wrote: HdB live), Peter Meyns wrote: PM on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:54:20 -0500GMT, you wrote: DC I've got a little problem... Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes DC up my sig delimter so that it's only -- instead of --space. Any DC way to fix that? PM Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own PM implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own PM implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use PM GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message. HdB I am using gnupg 1.4.1rc2 and I can use other UID's than the first on HdB my keyring to sign messages without using gpgshell. I'm not seeing that problem in 1.4.0a either, just the sig delimiter thing. How'd you get around the UTF-8 to CP0 problem on stock unpatched gnupg 1.4.x though? I had to use the patched on to get that to work. -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject) Re: TB GnuPG
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 21:02:16 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on 18-Feb-2005 at 20:47 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: Let's see how it behaves regarding the sig delimiter. ASK Much better if you ask me, because its PGP/MIME instead of inline signing, ASK and the sig delimiter is also totally normal. :-) I suppose I'll have to up and buy it then. I was hoping to avoid having to do that.Ummm... What exactly does it do different anyway? -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject) Re: TB GnuPG
Hi David Calvarese, On 18/02/2005 03:11 PM, you wrote: I suppose I'll have to up and buy it then. I was hoping to avoid having to do that.Ummm... What exactly does it do different anyway? TB! can generate PGP/MIME signatures using GnuPG. You don't need to get PGP v8 for that. Additionally, if you wish to inline sign with GnuPG and avoid the stripping of trailing spaces, then use GPGShell to sign. -- _ _ _ __ _| | (_) ___ /\/\ / _` | | | |/ _ \/\ | (_| | | | | __/ / /\/\ \ \__,_|_|_|_|\___|___\/\/ |_| A little inaccuracy sometimes saves tons of explanation. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: pgp/mime
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:10:37 -0500GMT (18-2-2005, 21:10 +0100, where I live), David Calvarese wrote: DC On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 20:50:31 +0100, Henk de Bruijn wrote: HdB live), Peter Meyns wrote: PM Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own PM implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own PM implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use PM GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message. HdB I am using gnupg 1.4.1rc2 and I can use other UID's than the first on HdB my keyring to sign messages without using gpgshell. DC I'm not seeing that problem in 1.4.0a either, just the sig delimiter DC thing. How'd you get around the UTF-8 to CP0 problem on stock DC unpatched gnupg 1.4.x though? I had to use the patched on to get that DC to work. I just checked signing with pgp/mime with another UID than the first on my keyring with this version and there were no problems. -- Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.1.33nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey available at http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x12069B93DBE6E678 Gossamer Spider Web of Trust GSWoT http://www.gswot.org/ A Progressive and Innovative Web of Trust pgpBqJxoMvQHv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject) Re: TB GnuPG
Hello David Calvarese everyone else, on 18-Feb-2005 at 20:31 you (David Calvarese) wrote: Hrm... Would PGP V8 be any better for that? I wouldn't object to buying it if I had to. Buy? Do you need to use it commercially? If not: http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The making of a great original discovery is not unlike the writing of a great poem or the painting of a great picture. The thought and it's execution must be hammered out by genius alone. -- Theodore Richards, First American Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject) Re: TB GnuPG
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 21:54:32 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on 18-Feb-2005 at 20:31 you (David Calvarese) wrote: Hrm... Would PGP V8 be any better for that? I wouldn't object to buying it if I had to. ASK Buy? Do you need to use it commercially? If not: ASK http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html Hey, that's handy! My only real issue with buying it is that I need to use it on 2 PCs. my work PC (for personal email) and my home PC (for the same). But I'm only ever going to be signing on one at a time. -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
On Sat 19 February 2005, 4:21:49 +1000, Mau wrote: Yes, I know. But I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!. I _am_ proud of using TB. Well, so am I. But to prevent possible problems such as you encounter, I disguise my mailer slightly - see my X-mailer header. Actually, I use one of a list of 21 equivalents to The Bat! in a variety of languages. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Voyager
Saturday, February 19, 2005, 8:53:01 AM, Marten wrote: Not the first time I did not receive an announcement email from RitLabs. MG I must have got yours then - I got it twice! Same here, but that has been normal for recent emails from RIT. Best vapourware I've seen in ages. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pretending to use The Bat!
On Friday, February 18, 2005, 11:45:37, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Interesting. This SpamAssassin must really be badly maintained. Actually, it's pretty well maintained. They just have difficulties with adjusting to new TB versions but _will_ do their best to do so. Post a bug report at http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org and send a mail to the admin of the mail server that wrongly flagged your message. Regards, Roman -- A people who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never will, and never can, be. -- Thomas Jefferson Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
